Kiffin watch: not going according to plan

“I don’t think teams are intimidated to play us because we’re not playing well.”
USC coach Lane Kiffin

Sounds like it’s time to say or do something outrageous.

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26 responses to “Kiffin watch: not going according to plan

  1. Scorpio Jones, III

    Godamighty Dam, Senator, if you felt bad before, just wait till you see the teams Lane Kiffin has beaten in his coaching career.

    I remember one time back in the dim mists when I decided I was going to be a hockey fan because being a Georgia fan was just too miserable….I think I was like eight at the time.

    Who knew?

  2. Scorpio Jones, III

    How do we not even offer Phillip Daniels’ son?

    Please, somebody explain that to me, please.

      • The Original Cynical in Athens

        I am pretty sure that we are in no position to be demanding anything of a high school WR at this point. In fact, we should have begged the kid to commit to us and let him take an official visit some time this fall.

        How funny is it that we put a backup kicker from San Diego on scholarship based on his highlight video, but we won’t offer a high school All-American at a position of desperate need, who happens to have the genes of a former UGA player who has been in the NFL for 15 years, unless we see him in person. Dumpster fire.

        We knew AJ Green was leaving after this season, yet did not sign an SEC WR last year.

        We now have ONE (1) SEC WR on the roster in 2011.

        As many egregious recruiting mistakes as we have made recently, I imagine this one will rank right up there 3 years from now.

        • So, because they made a mistake offering Bogotay blindly, they now ought to compound it by doing the same thing with Daniels?

          And your hindsight is great on last year’s WR class, because everyone knew that Rogers was going to bolt at the last minute.

          • The Original Cynical in Athens

            Just pointing out the lunacy of the coaching staff, and how many terrible decisions they have made recently in recruiting.

            They no longer deserve the benefit-of-the-doubt on any recruiting situation, especially this one.

            As far as the Rogers’ thing, the writing was on the wall there for several weeks before.

            I mean, Ray friggin Lamb’s son was Rogers’ coach. Do you think the UGA coaching staff did not know that Nance’s dad was pimping the kid the entire time?

            That would essentially be like Mark Richt not knowing exactly what is going on on the inside of the Mars Hill football program.

            • Go Dawgs!

              Of course Georgia knew what was going on with the Nances. And they were in contact with Da’Prick right up until the day he signed, and he was lying to their faces. I’m not sure how you can fault Richt and his staff for not strapping Rogers down and forcing him to take a polygraph.

              • The Original Cynical in Athens

                I just fault them for not having a contingency plan.

                But, just like everything else regarding the program, all the details are not being handled.

        • Biggus Rickus

          One? Brown and Wooten have shown flashes. It’s a bit premature to write them off. Reggie Brown didn’t really come into his own until he was a senior, after all.

      • Scorpio Jones, III

        Apparently not, but when a kid is the son of a very good Georgia player, don’t you at least offer him…knowing he may not be interested, but his father is?

        what difference does just making the kid an offer make?

        Maybe that’s not the way it is done, but I notice Bama has a lot of legacy players.

        Maybe that’s a part of the process we ought to notice.

        Maybe this is nothing, maybe somebody talked to the kid and he said he had no interest, but it seems kinda, ah… insensitive?

      • Scorpio Jones, III

        Mea Culpa….I missed that whole episode.

        I spaketh in ignorance.

      • The Realist

        Are there not planes in Athens? Can we not send somebody up there to see the kid workout?

        If places like Notre Dame, Miami, and Oklahoma are taking chances on the kid, it might be worth at least sending a grad assistant up there on his own dime just to lay a set of eyes on the kid instead of completely ignoring him.

  3. Scorpio Jones, III

    Oh, and one minor point….AJ is not 1-4, technically he is 0-1.

    Just saying, and all that implies.

  4. 69Dawg

    Your Bryce Ros mention is really not fair. He got a medical scholly and only counted against us for a short time. UGA has offered a lot of legacy schollies in the past not many have paid off but Tony Taylor worked out OK. I’m of the opinion that we should have offered him.
    We seem to have made it a habit to get the old coaches kids in on football schollies see Joe T III and Mike Greer. We got the wrong T his brother was a good TE for Wake. Mike Greer was a pot head but a good player. Any way lets not make like it is out of character for UGA to offer legacy schollies.

    • I’m sorry, but you guys can’t have it both ways. Don’t bitch about how recruiting hasn’t been up to snuff lately in one breath and then in the next urge the staff to take a flyer on kids that you acknowledge in many cases don’t pay off.

      • The Original Cynical in Athens

        Bryce Ros didn’t have any other offers. This is like apples and oranges. We desperately need WR’s, and there aren’t a lot left on the board that we have a realistic shot at.

      • Scorpio Jones, III

        Whoa, Senator, offering a scholarship to a kid you are pretty sure is not going to take it, but who has other offers is not the same as giving a legacy scholarship to a kid who has no other place to go.

        Georgia has always, always given consideration to kids have ties to the program who may not be all that much help, and some of them, Michael Greer among them have been some help.

        Some of these kids wind up being coaches.

        My interest in this has nothing to do with anything but the public relations aspect.

        Since I steadfastly ignore “recruiting experts” my only point of reference is play on the field.

        And since, as little as two years or so ago we had two first round draft picks in our program, It would appear our recruiting has not been all that bad.

        • I’m not opposed to legacy scholarships. I’m simply making the point that a number of commenters here seem to want to have their cake and eat it, too.

          BTW, on the silly argument that Georgia hasn’t recruited well, never mind what Rivals and Scout have to say: as a general rule of thumb, I don’t count stars, but I do look at what other offers a kid gets. So for those of you who think the talent evaluation has been substandard, give me a list of signees for Georgia who didn’t have offers from peer programs.

          • The Original Cynical in Athens

            Josh Davis, Demarcus Dobbs, Munzenmaier, Ricardo Crawford, Chris Davis, Kris Durham, John Miller, Scott Havercamp, Walter Hill, Aron White, Ben Harden, Clint Boling, Charles White, Marcus Dowtin, Ben Jones, Johnathan Owens, Jeremy Longo, Makiri Pugh, Christian Robinson, Brandon Bogotay, Derrick Lott, Rantavious Wooten, Arthur Lynch, Mettenberger, Kenarious Gates, Michael Bennett, Demetre Baker, Marc Deas, Zander Ogletree.

            That was based on a really liberal listing of “offers” according to Scout.com. It is really hard to believe some of those offer lists, and of course, there is a big difference with some schools between getting an “offer” and having a “commitable offer.”

            I considered Alabama and Florida peer institutions for kids from the state of Georgia and looked at SEC schools for kids from outside of the state.

            Auburn is not counted because they offer every, single kid in the state of Georgia, and South Carolina and Tennessee are not counted because they are not peers of Georgia. A kid from Florida who was not offered by one of the big 3, but may have been offered by others in the SEC is included.

            This is from the 2006 class to 2010. Looking at this, it’s no wonder that Offensive line is our biggest position of struggle this year. While are starters were supposed to be good, we are relying on the development of a lot of kids who are not being recruited by the best of the best in the Southeast.

            • I considered Alabama and Florida peer institutions for kids from the state of Georgia and looked at SEC schools for kids from outside of the state.

              Auburn is not counted because they offer every, single kid in the state of Georgia, and South Carolina and Tennessee are not counted because they are not peers of Georgia. A kid from Florida who was not offered by one of the big 3, but may have been offered by others in the SEC is included.

              LOL. I bet you don’t lose many arguments when you get to define the terms of the debate.

              • The Original Cynical in Athens

                How else do you define “peer institutions?”

                I thought that the parameters were pretty fair.

                Who are Georgia’s peers?
                I would consider them to be Auburn, Florida, Alabama and LSU in recruiting. If we are to consider South Carolina, Vandy and Georgia Tech peers, then we have already lost.

                • Still Confused About Who's Really Cynical

                  LSU? We don’t really recruit against them. You just make up sh*t when it suits you. Why don’t you just limit it to Southern Cal, Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame while you’re at it.

                  • The Original Cynical in Athens

                    LSU has been recruiting the state of Georgia pretty heavily recently, and they are a top-tier SEC team.

                    Why don’t you quit whining and offer a better set of parameters?

  5. Russ The Temporary Mascot

    Last year in Knoxville, Uga told me he slept through the game just like our team did.

    He said, one minute he’s out there running onto the field, passing the Kiffins and all the Georgia players who were loafing their way on.

    Then the next minute, the game is over and Coach Martinez is throwing his game plan at him in the locker room.

    Weird.

  6. The dude

    Just for the record, Ros had 26 scholarship offers before it was all said and done…every school in the SEC next to Florida offered him as wel as ACC and big 10 schools…I heard from a friend of his that he is trying to get back into football dispite his injury. Although he won’t play at uga anymore