Is Camgate going to the next level?

This may be the first sign that it’s time to go to DEFCON Four at Auburn.

… According to sources connected to the probe … FBI agents looking into the Newton recruiting controversy are also asking about Milton McGregor — a dog track owner arrested last month for allegedly bribing Alabama politicians to vote pro gambling.

We’re told agents asked someone connected to the Newton case if he was familiar with McGregor or the bribery scandal.

TMZ goes on to say that it doesn’t know what the link between Newton and McGregor might be, but any time you’ve got the FBI bringing somebody arrested into the conversation, it’s not good.

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59 responses to “Is Camgate going to the next level?

  1. King Jericho

    “…a dog track owner arrested last month for allegedly bribing Alabama politicians to vote pro gambling.”

    Isn’t that called lobbying?

  2. Puffdawg

    That might be a ten ton greyhound Bo is smelling. Being a former thoroughbred himself, Bo knows the tracks.

  3. Biggus Rickus

    *Pulls up chair. Grabs bowl of popcorn.* This is gonna be so awesome, you guys!

    • heyberto

      I’m running out of popcorn. Damn, is this stuff great!

      • gastr1

        I just hope the climax has all of the gob-smacking violence I’m lusting for. And I mean that in all seriousness–here’s hoping Awbun has to give back all those victories before the year even ends!

        Roll, Heads…errr, I mean, Tide!

      • Biggus Rickus

        Really, I felt a little bad for Auburn when the news first hit. As more info came out it was clear something was rotten, and when he was announced as the starter and the crowd reacted like they’d just been crowned national champs I got a little angry. As the game wore one, with Newton playing to the crowd and Fairley taking cheap shot after cheap shot, I got angrier and angrier. The Auburn fan reaction to the aftermath has made me angrier still, and now I want them to get the death penalty, even though I know they won’t.

        • Macallanlover

          +1 Exactly the progression of my emotions. Now I want the team, staff, and fans to suffer for the way they conducted themselves last weekend, and since. The Aubie Canes deserve a tough punishment on Cam for their arrogance regarding it, and for condoning fairley’s actions and attempting to deflect blame back onto UGA.
          RTR!

        • JoeE

          If some of the stuff I’ve seen floating around the interwebs is true, I would not be surprised to see the death penalty for Auburn.

  4. TimRankine

    Auburn blogs are in full whistling-past-the-graveyard mode; it’s almost as if they are trying to get some celebrating in quick. Can’t help but notice the undertones of worry and denial in their posts. See trackemtigers for specifics.

    • hailtogeorgia

      Did you see the rant by WarEagleAtlanta over there? What a joke.

      • Biggus Rickus

        You read the whole thing? I couldn’t make it past the second paragraph.

        • The Realist

          Absurdity of the highest order. The quality of the deflection, however, is artful… taken to a whole ‘nother level.

          Georgia fans:Fairley::Auburn fans:Georgia fans’ opinion on Fairley

          Unfortunately, Auburn fans would never understand this analogy.

        • Ben

          Me, either. I skipped straight to the comments where some of his own told him he was being petty.

          What’s odd to me is that it’s not only UGA folks up in arms about AU and Fairley’s play and whatnot, but it’s all of college football. It’ll be so great to see them get hammered. I thought AU fans were the sufferable ones here in Alabama, but I’m beginning to see why both fanbases deserve each other.

          • Faulkner

            Even Herbstreit was on Sportscenter last night saying he thought he should be penalized/suspended for the helmet to the spine.

            So lets see how this could work for all the other schools affected. Auburn gets all wins wiped off, LSU goes to the SECCG and wins, Alabama goes to Sugar Bowl and hopefully we beat tech and the added win from Auburn gets us to the Chick Fil A. I think New Years day is out completely. Being 40 with kids, watching the Dawgs on the 31st would be great.

          • Bryant Denny

            Easy now :)

  5. The Realist

    Where there is smoke… there must be a drunk Georgia fan setting a treasured “landmark” on fire be a grand conspiracy that goes up to the tippity top of the federal government’s policing force.

    I agree with Biggus Rickus… this is has the potential to be movie of the week material.

  6. Mayor of Dawgtown

    “……any time you’ve got the FBI bringing somebody arrested into the conversation, it’s not good.” Not good for Newton and Auburn. Not good for Mike Slime..er..Slive and not good financially for the SEC member institutions who will lose out on the money for a BCS game. Good for everybody else in college football and honest people everywhere who do not lie or cheat, as best as I can determine.

  7. Nigel

    This story is halfway past 10 but not quite to 11.

  8. Normaltown Mike

    Two words to describe Milton McGregor: Awe Some!

    He is obviously a big supporter of education

    http://www.troy.edu/magazine/archives/Summer2008/gift.html

  9. Normaltown Mike

    Ohhhhh, I feel a Jesse Jackson appearance is in the cards!

  10. Normaltown Mike

    Bobby Lowder, Milton McGregor and Pat Dye in the same story from August of 2009….they call it a trifecta

    http://blog.al.com/businessnews/2009/08/bobby_lowder_milton_mcgregor_p.html

  11. Turd Ferguson

    I would say, “How can Auburn fans not admit that this is all looking really, really bad?” But then I remembered that I’ve just gotten through 4 days of hearing Auburn fans actually defend Nick Fairley.

    There is nothing better, during a down year, than watching a rival’s shit hit the fan.

  12. Bryant Denny

    Hey Bo,

    That’s not a rat you are smelling!!!

    Sincerely,

    BD

  13. Mike

    And congratulations to the University of South Carolina for winning their first ever SEC conference title. Because that is what will happen if Cam has to sit for the SECCG.

    • Turd Ferguson

      It’s kinda funny how easy it’s been to forget about South Carolina in the midst of all this. Their first SEC championship game, and the conference could hardly give a damn.

    • Macallanlover

      Not if the SEC/NCAA has enough information to act quickly (I know, good luck with Slime doing anything). AU could have to vacate the first 11 games and send LSU to play SC in Atlanta. Of course the $12-13MM for the 2nd BCS bowl gamw would cost the SEC office their, approximately, $1MM share of that second game. That could cost them their bonuses, and is why they didn’t take action on fairley this week. The rest of the CFB nation saw him ignore the obvious. Another black eye for the SEC.

  14. Dante

    So when did paying a player to play at a school become a federal offense? I guess the unreported income is a biggie, but is anything else about young men being shopped to colleges a federal offense? Besides, if income is the big deal, doesn’t the IRS usually do their own investigation into unreported income? Don’t get me wrong. I hope the NCAA knocks Auburn junk in the dirt. I just don’t understand why the FBI is involved.

    • MT

      If the money is dirty, as the TMZ story is true (BTW, TMZ!?! I didn’t realize Cam::L Lohan), the FBI has a very good reason on being involved.

      Maybe someone else can speak to this, but if Cecil and Co. know of the dirty money source, could be a crime of conspiracy, at minimum.

    • hassan

      It could be considered extortion if he verbally commits and then asks for money to follow through. If such a crime occurs across state lines (i.e. MS & AL), then it becomes federal.

  15. Will Trane

    Auburn is all in on Newton, and they have rolled the dice. The FBI. TMZ. And prominent boosters. A lot of stuff floating out there. Oral representations of a relative of a certain player. Representations of certain persons affliated with MSU. Is the FBI there to confirm some allegations about improper recruiting for the NCAA and SEC? FBI normally does not waste its resources this way. Did they come into the USC & Reggie Bush situation. Nope. If I was a president of a school in the SEC, I’d be very concerned about this. Just how many times has the FBI been in college athletics. Someone saw something related to this and started connecting the dots. The money trail. This is going to be interesting. Could be a serious matter not only for Auburn, but MSU. If MSU said they did not want to even hear money mentioned while they recruited a player, then what would motivate or change the state of the mind of the person or persons asking for money to go somewhere else. And all the while Mike Slive and the SEC office will wait for the big boys to finish this drill. That can not be comfortable for them. Auburn rolled the dice. Not like Ceasar crossing the Rubicon going to Rome.
    And all the while, LSU sits patiently watching this play out and their leap into the national title picture. The gainers…Bama, Carolina, and LSU. If this blows up against Auburn and they are down the road, what restitution will they have to make. And SEC presidents wait and hope their conference is not too heavily damaged by this. For the losers it will more than a late hit to deal with. Somewhere maturity and honesty must come in.

  16. Will Trane

    Is there a connection from banks here?

  17. dudetheplayer

    LOLEAGLE

  18. BeerMoney

    If Alabama wanted to go ahead and get the ball rolling for all the class that is the 2010 Auburn Tigers, they would throw this song on the PA when the Wareagletigerplainspeoplelaptopthiefs take the field.

    “I’ll either come back a bum or a king, baby I don’t know.” Indeed.

  19. Brandon

    Senator, not to quibble but I think you mean DEFCON 1, the scale runs from 1 to 5 with 1 being the most severe.

  20. The Sternkid

    Somebody posted this massive epistle on tigerdroppings.com today about the whole Cam Newton sitch and how it goes way, way, waaaaaaaaay past Cam. It’s long, like read it on your laptop on the can long. It possibly connects some dots and posits some conspiracy theories, but even if 20% of it’s true, All-Barn’s in heapum big trouble.

    http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=22778676

    • Tim Rankine

      Read the entire thing. Interesting is an understatement. It doesn’t purport to be gospel, acknowledges that there’s quite a bit of dot connecting, yet it has the distinct ring of truth about it. Not your average blog post, for sure.

    • King Jericho

      Just finished it too. Absolutely riveting. I don’t care if it was 100% fake, it was the best story I’ve heard since Lost. However, if it is true, it’s not looking good for the plains.

      If the shit REALLY hits the fan and Auburn loses it’s accreditation, what does that mean for the current students? Hopefully not what I think it means.

    • almightytmc1

      Absolutely fascinating read.
      If it is fake it is a consistently common sense fake. And a very detailed on to boot.
      And it makes sense. Since Colonial started going down the tubes the feds would have been investigating why. It seems bizarre that in an economy that is consititently growing that Colonial could have reached such dire straits. Like I said previously, I am sure that the government would have wanted to know what went wrong.
      I had no idea of how deep the involvement between the Auburn BOT and the Colonial Bank was.
      Wire taps from political corruption cases that lead to this? Actaully quite probable.
      If this is a conspiracy theory. It is a really, really good one.

    • Brandon

      Interesting, however there are people in the world who are capable of coming up with such intracate conspiracy theories without a shred of proof or fact behind it. Sadly they are not all in insane asylum’s.

    • Dog in Fla

      the detailed tigerdroppings post gives credence to this prophecy:

      http://blutarsky.wordpress.com/2010/11/06/its-what-you-dont-know-that-can-hurt-you/

    • Scott W.

      You couldn’t make all of that up.

    • Turd Ferguson

      That was awesome. Totally worth the time. It’s like college-football-meets-John-Grisham. Please, please, please, let it all be true.

  21. almightytmc1

    Since thier Agricluture department made the grand discovery that kudzu could solve the cattle feed problems in the United States ,Auburn just keeps the blunders a-coming!
    Why would anyone want to attend Auburn University? Everything Auburn touches or does becomes a ginormous fiasco. Thier athletes cheat academically.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/14/sports/ncaafootball/14auburn.html?ei=5088&en=895a3f92b678660d&ex=1310529600&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1161059676-wI+9QzhWjJhuC+UJ1x0VRQ

    Thier athletes cheat using steriods

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1128082/3/index.htm

    They cheat on the field.
    (No links necessary. there are so many clips of chop blocks, late licks and spears on youtube you can literally watch for hours.)

    And of course they pay for play.
    as in the 1957 title that they SHARE with Ohio State.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/364528-was-auburns-1957-national-championship-legitimate

    And more pay for play…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieX-pNMnwFE,

    BTW Pat Dye is still at Auburn,,

    And even more pay for play… (See current Cam Newton/Michael Dyer/Walt Williams stuff.

    When is someone going to have the gravitas to say ENOUGH!!!
    By being allowed to play the ineligible Cam Newton there are dozens of schools that could possibly feel the effects, whether through Bowl games or the National Championship picture.
    When will the NCAA and trhe SEC step up and stop this atrocitythat is known as auburn football?

  22. My prediction: Cam Newton will be ruled ineligible at some point either before the SEC championship game, or after it but before BCS selection.

    As a result, LSU will get a slot in the BCS title game.

    Why? Because that bit of extreme luck would fit in perfectly with how the rest of Les Miles’ season has gone.

    Even when he loses, he wins.

    • Bryant Denny

      My prediction is the LSU is gonna get a giant dose of Razorback. :)

      • Really?

        Alabama beat Arkansas by 4, but lost to LSU by 3.

        Auburn beat Arkansas by 21, but only beat LSU by 7.

        Arkansas plays a good Miss. State this week, while LSU gets a glorified bye week against Ole Miss.

        I’m not saying LSU definitely beats Arkansas, but everything looks to be in LSU’s favor.

  23. Faulkner

    The Tigerdroppings story sure has a fair amount of detail. Only the FBI & NCAA knows if it’s true. However, based on what happened in the past with Auburn and the connection between the AU board and the Colonial bank board, I think we have a winner. How these guys are all under investigation by the FBI and still making decisions at AU is beyond me.
    Throw some gratuitous T&A into the story and you have the making of an awesome HBO mini series.