Skin in the game

Urban Meyer, 2006:

”If they do that [rematch], there should be a playoff system next year,” Meyer said Sunday. “I think if that [rematch] happens, I think it’s over. All the presidents would need to get together immediately and put in a playoff system — like now!”

Urban Meyer, 2011:

Q: Now that you’re part of the network that broadcasts the BCS, are you a BCS guy? A playoff guy?

UM: “I’m a BCS guy. It’d be really difficult to put together a playoff system. The way the BCS does it is fine. To be honest with you, I go back and forth on it a little bit, but I kind of like the way it is.”

It’s not the change of heart that’s amusing here.  It’s that we keep asking coaches for their opinion on the subject.

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20 Comments

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20 responses to “Skin in the game

  1. TennesseeDawg

    The media might as well as coaches what their favorite color is because it matters just as much as their opinion on the BCS.

  2. Baron de Coubertin

    He will b back to the playoff guy when he takes over for Tressel in 2012.

  3. Otto

    I don’t see Corch taking a job where he would be limited by sanctions in 2012 maybe 2016 after the fall guy (Shula type hire) has stumbled around for a few years

    • I think you’re overestimating the hit the school will take on this. Tressel is toast. I’m not sure OSU is looking at much more than vacating wins from the games ineligible players were in and some scholly hits. Unless the school is dumb enough to stand by Tressel, of course.

      • Scott W.

        I’m thinking when the whip comes down OSU will be as virtuous as Tressel has turned out to be.

      • Otto

        Solid point Sen.

        I still don’t think Corch would be overly eager to jump into another pressure cooker with those possibilities on the table. Rumblings of repeat offender status have been mentioned.

        At this point nobody knows what will come down from the NCAA offices. I think the Vest will coach 2011 and by New Years we will have a much better idea of what will happen.

      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        +1. The smart play for tOSU is to jettison Tressel.

  4. Juan

    Love the blog, Senator (and hate Corch).

    BUT, if you read his first quote again you’ll notice he says “if they do that” meaning the rematch between osu & Mich then we need a playoff. And I would agree with him. Obviously that didn’t happen. So, it really isn’t a change of heart.

    • I think the point is why should we even care what the coach thinks when his opinion is ultimately irrelevant in this discussion. All that truly matters is what the University presidents and conference commissioners feel will make them the most money while allowing them to completely control the process. I’m frankly surprised that more coaches don’t take the Jim Boeheim route and advocate a huge playoff. Not like making the post-season is good for your own security or anything…

    • If anything, that just proves my point. Meyer’s position on a playoff varies based on what he has at stake.

      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        Situational ethics personified.

        • Mike

          Ethics?”

          On what planet do you live when you equate an opinion, even a changing opinion, about college football playoffs with ethics?

          That said, ethics do indeed play a part in college football. For example, during a game, poor ethics can be penalized with unsportsmanlike penalties. And sometimes even two unsportsmanlike penalties can be assessed for the same play. Now THAT is really a good example of poor ethics.

          But back to coaching behavior. Ethics can play a part of that too. For example, most people would consider it too be poor sportsmanship to shoot a bird to another coach. Others might opine that a coach exhibits poor ethics if he were to grab his throat and exclaim to an opposing player that he “is going to fucking choke”.

          But rendering an opinion about a playoff, even an opinion that might change over time, is really not in the realm of ethics.

          • John

            Ah, I had heard of a “Mike” who is a lonely UF fan but visits this UGA blog out of sheer boredom or stupidity. This must be the guy.

            He’s the one who tries to be clever but instead comes off as a huge nerd, right?

            We sure he’s not a Tech fan?

            • Mayor of Dawgtown

              Not a Tech fan. While he is a nerd, he is waaaay too stupid to have ever gotten into Georgia Tech.

              • Mike

                The day is indeed won when the debate from the opposite side devolves to that of the personal nature.

                • John

                  And what debate is that exactly?

                  I didn’t comment on the point of your post, I just mocked your pathetic attempt at being clever.

                  Once again you’ve come off as a huge nerd. And your lack of comprehension skills makes me think you’re about as smart as you are witty.

  5. Krautdawg

    Speaking of parsing words to determine who’s willing to invest skin in the game, has anyone else seen this? http://www.slate.com/id/2292312/

    • Scott W.

      Very interesting and telling. With the right kind of marketing you can sell anything to anyone.

    • Normaltown Mike

      verrry interesting.

      If I could develop a proprietary algorithm on athlete press conferences…

      -X axis would measure coach/jock speak for malaproprisms (e.g. “You have to tip your hand to the defense….” or “we didn’t per say know what they were doing, per say…”)

      -Y axis would measure situational appropriateness (e.g.”It’s war out there and I’m a soldier!” or “I’m going to eat his children”)

  6. Bad M

    Ohio St would be a great place for a decent coach long term, now that Michigan sux. But does Corch ever want anything long term?