Still, it’s a nice thought.

Tony Barnhart doesn’t see the SEC making any moves on the oversigning front at the meetings scheduled for the end of this month (unless you count assigning the topic to a working group for further study as such, I don’t either), but he does make a good suggestion on a starting point, if the conference powers-that-be were so inclined.

… What coaches cannot do and must not be allowed to do is mislead or outright lie to players and their families. A player must be told up front if there is even a possibility that a scholarship might not be there for him and that he might have to grayshirt. In fact, I would not be opposed to a signed document to that effect. Then the player and his parents have to make a decision whether or not to move on to a school that can guarantee a scholarship or stay with their No. 1 school and roll the dice.

I think that gets back to the distinction which Mark Richt made the other day with his now infamous (to the point of being mocked) “winning at all costs” comments:

… Then the coach explained the practice that he doesn’t like, the distinction between over-signing and grayshirting:

“If you bring them in in the summer, and you work them and you let your strength staff work with them, and you kind of decide which ones you like the best, and you tell five of them, ‘Hey we know we signed you, and we expected you to be able to come in, we don’t have space for you, we’re really sorry about that but we don’t have space for you – you’re gonna have to leave and come back in January.’

“I think that’s an awful thing to do, I think that’s the wrong thing to do. And it’s nothing that we’ve done since I’ve been at Georgia.”

This was met by a loud round of applause.

“Not that we haven’t grayshirted, or talked to guys about grayshirting,” Richt added. “If you tell five of those guys ‘Hey we’ve got 20 spaces. I can sign 25. There’s a good chance that by school starts there’ll be room for you, because of the attrition that happens every year everywhere you go. If there’s space for you, you come in with your class. If there’s not space for you, are you willing to come in in January? …

“If you tell them on the front end and they know that, everyone understands that, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. And that’s how we go about it if we’re going to talk to a guy about grayshirting.”

I don’t think a grayshirt-before-January requirement would be a particularly difficult rule to enforce.  Pick a drop dead date, put the grayshirt offer in writing before then and require it to be posted with the league office.  Once the date passes, a school can’t make a grayshirt offer to any recruit in the present class.  That strikes me as being fair, honest and ethical.  It’s also for the benefit of the recruit.  Which means it has the proverbial snowball’s chance in hell of being approved.

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8 responses to “Still, it’s a nice thought.

  1. Biggus Rickus

    I don’t know how Athenians felt safe amid that crushing wave of traffic violations.

  2. Joe

    So what if they reign in oversigning really, if it will just encourage what the Petrinos of the world do with their yearly evaluations? (I mean “granting” releases!)

  3. Scott W.


    Does this guy read the AJC or read at all?

    • Scott W.

      Like the little “Tide turns” bit he drops as well…
      But the Atlanta media types will lap it up. They usually defend him come hell or high water.
      That should be above and I shall reread how to HTML code.

  4. Scott W.

    Like the little “Tide turns” bit he drops as well…
    But the Atlanta media types will lap it up. They usually defend him come hell or high water.

    Does this guy read the AJC or read at all?

  5. Irishdawg

    Didn’t a Bama player get arrested on federal drug trafficking charges a few years ago? Pretty sure that trumps driving without a license.

    Eat me, Tide Nation.

  6. Champ

    Mildly disconcerting some of the comments on there. I think Richt has had some of the best and more honest comments on the subject, without dropping to the level of actually naming other schools.

  7. malcolmkass

    Oh, I dunno that gray shirting really even needs that rule. As one who paid for undergrad via student loans, the prospect that a student will need to garner student loans for a semester to have the next 3 1/2 years of college paid for (typically) isn’t exactly troubling.

    And I think that Barnhart is right. If you are going to go with oversigning, there needs to be something with some sort of signed document showing that the parents and student know that the scholarship might be pulled. Some of these kids are willing to sign with a school fully aware that said school might not take them, if they want to do that, there needs to be some documentation showing that both parties know the deal.