You’re not the boss of me.

This is just a question and not meant as a prediction, but what could the Big 12 and the NCAA do if ESPN told both of them to go stuff themselves and proceeded to broadcast whatever high school games if felt like showing on the Longhorn Network?

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26 responses to “You’re not the boss of me.

  1. Biggus Rickus

    I guess it depends on whether there’s any language in the contract that gives the Big 12 any power over such decisions. If not, then there’s nothing they can do. Member institutions could bolt and destroy the Big 12, but that’s about it.

    • Joe

      Don’t quite agree. The issue is recruiting violations. Just as you can’t have the press on hand to take pictures during certain times at camps etc., this is a simple case of a recruiting violation/advantage in that a school, not an independent press highlighting potential recruits on YOUR (not ESPN’s solely) Network. You are – as an institution – discussing, highlighting, praising (maybe) a potential student athlete at your institution prior to their signing an LOI.

      I think the NCAA has plenty of jurisdiction (NCAA speaking) and teeth here.

      • Biggus Rickus

        Good point.

        • Biggus Dickus

          Bad point. The NCAA has no authority over ESPN which can televise any damn thing it wants. If the NCAA then penalizes a university for what ESPN does see you in court on that one buster.

          • Biggus Rickus

            I think it’s a good point, because I don’t think ESPN will not air something on the network without Texas’ approval.

            • Biggus Rickus

              I don’t think ESPN will air something…SIGH

              • Biggus Dickus

                How much approval did tOSU give ESPN about airing their expose? I wouldn’t bet with any of the other personalities about this, bro. They can all find you really easily and will make you pay up.

                • Biggus Rickus

                  Texas actually has a claim on the Longhorn Network though, bro. I think they have say on content. At least to some extent.

  2. Bob

    Big 12 Splits up and at least a couple schools (Aggies and Sooners) come to SEC. Texas winds up as independent because no other conference is going to want the Longhorn network either.

    Texas as independent might be interesting. But for the past 20 years or so we have heard how Notre Dame won’t ever return to its glory days unless it joins the Big Ten….that Independents can no longer survive. It will be interesting to see how things develop over the next few months.

    • Skeptic Dawg

      I heard the OU + A&M theory on 790 yesterday. Why those 2 schools? Would OU + OSU not make more sence? I understand the “Texas recruiting ground” idea, but the Aggies appear to offer very little to the SEC themselves. I am rooting sheer chaos in this matter.

      • Go Dawgs!

        Texas A&M has a bad case of Georgia Techitis. They think they’re a much bigger deal than they actually are. I found the two fan bases to be very similar when I was in Shreveport for the A&M game in the Indy Bowl.

      • Biggus Rickus

        OSU doesn’t add anything more as a program to the SEC. And the Texas television markets are every bit as big a factor as the recruiting benefits. However, I’m not sure it would be worth turning down OU if they insist on being packaged with OSU.

        • Darrren Rovell

          Nope … if OU insists on OSU which results in A&M being left out, then the SEC will not do the deal. Oklahoma City (#45) & Tulsa (#61) are not good enough TV markets. A&M “in theory” give you access to Dallas (#5), Houston (#10), San Antonio (#37), & Austin (#44).

          Any expansion by the SEC that does not involve adding schools that open up television markets is probably not worth doing.

          • Biggus Rickus

            That’s pretty much what I figured. Does OU’s national profile being so much greater than A&M’s factor in, though?

            • Bubba and Earl

              Adding Oklahoma to the SEC West would make that side of the conference an absolute gauntlet of death. The SEC East is already way behind as it stands and I can’t think of anyone we can add (Clemson, F$U, Virginia Tech) that would come close to challenging OU year in and year out. If OU and A&M are added, along with say Clemson and Va Tech, I can see teams in the west clamoring for realignment of the divisions in the SEC.

              • Biggus Rickus

                These things are cyclical. LSU, Alabama and Auburn are not going to be good forever, and Tennessee, Georgia and Florida will eventually tick back up at the same time. FSU and Clemson are are not really worse than OU and A&M in terms of potential. It’s true that neither Va. Tech nor Clemson is in OU’s league though.

                • Go Dawgs!

                  Unless, of course, OU is playing in a bowl game.

                • Mayor of Dawgtown

                  Adding Texas A&M and OU to the SEC West and, say, FSU and Clemson to the SEC East would still present 2 relatively balanced divisions in the SEC. If the SEC were to only add Texas A&M and OU to the SEC West there would have to be a realignment with either Bama or Auburn likely being added to the SEC East.

                  • Biggus Rickus

                    I assume if they add two Western teams like that they’ll try to raid the ACC, because it makes more sense to me to go ahead and expand to sixteen if you can both for money and maintaining divisional rivalries.

                    • Mayor of Dawgtown

                      Agreed. However it may be harder than one might think to get teams out of the ACC. Think about it. You are FSU and normally cruise through a schedule that includes UNC, Wake, NC State, GA Tech–teams of that ilk. You (while down for awhile but now have rebounded) historically have been the best team in that conference–perennial conference champs and almost always going to a BCS Bowl as the ACC representative. Do you wanna leave that behind and have to play an SEC schedule every year? Do you want to play (when they get good again) UGA, UT, FLA and West teams like LSU, Auburn and Bama week in and week out, not to mention the new additions OU and Texas A&M? Can your program stack up? how often is your team going to win a championship playing in a conference like THAT? It’s something to think about.

              • Da

                Auburn would come to the East, you’d then have 7 on each.

                • Mayor of Dawgtown

                  Yeah, but then you would have Texas A&M, OU and Bama all in the same division and will have split Auburn and Bama up. While they undoubtedly would would continue to play each other in the last regular season game for each, I can forsee a situation where Bama wins, wins the West, Auburn loses, but still wins the East and both teams play each other again the very next week. Same potential problem if you keep Auburn in the West but put Bama in the East.

            • Darrren Rovell

              OU’s national profile is tremendous and they would be great to pair with A&M but I doubt that OU’s national profile would trump adding 4 Top 50 TV markets to the SEC footprint.

              If the conference really wants OU (which has a big following in Dallas) you could surrender the Houston, San Antonio & Austin markets and try to pick up two teams from the East Coast in markets where you do not already have “access.” Most likely you would try to poach two from a list of UVA/Va Tech/Clemson/UNC/NC St.? Only Va Tech is an ACC outsider there.

              An expansion with OU, OSU, Va Tech, & NC State would in theory add the #5 (Dallas), #9 (Washington DC), #23 (Charlotte), #25 (RDU), # 43 (Norfolk), #45 (Oklahoma City), #47 (Greensboro), #57 (Richmond), #61 Tulsa & #66 (Roanoke)

              • Stoopnagle

                This. Ags give you a big chunk of Houston and a little Dallas; OU gives you an entire state and a little sliver of Dallas, too.

                Texas is the behemoth (hence their own network), but the Ags bring eyes with them.

  3. Ausuga85

    Give up broadcasting HS football for what? Replays of Texas vs. USC championship game, women’s volleyball, women’s swimming, women’s gymnastics, women’s….wait. Hmmmmmmm……..

  4. Stoopnagle

    Well, probably not to ESPN, but they sure could make it difficult on their broadcast partner, UT.