With the NCAA, the borogoves are always mimsy.

Let’s see… some random guy who approached A.J. Green via Facebook and pushed Green to sell him a signed jersey met the NCAA’s definition of an agent, but Kenny Rogers, whom Cecil Newton admitted acted as his representative to solicit money from Mississippi State – the two swapped more than 275 phone calls during Rogers’ courtship of MSU – well, not so much.  In fact, not at all.

Auburn had to fight to keep Newton on the roster before last season’s game against Georgia, and again before the SEC Championship Game as the university and the NCAA argued over the definition of what constitutes a sports agent, according to documents released by the school on Friday, as well as interviews conducted earlier…

… The NCAA wrestled with whether to label Rogers an agent, and ultimately sided with Auburn and said he was not.

If this whole thing with defining an agent seems like it has a certain Alice In Wonderland-ish quality to it, that’s only because it does.

‘Would you tell me please,’ said Alice, ‘what that means?’

‘Now you talk like a reasonable child,’ said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. ‘I meant by “impenetrability” that we’ve had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you’d mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don’t mean to stop here all the rest of your life.’

‘That’s a great deal to make one word mean,’ Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

‘When I make a word do a lot of work like that,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘I always pay it extra.’

Humpty knows how the game is played.

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26 responses to “With the NCAA, the borogoves are always mimsy.

  1. stoopnagle

    case closed.

  2. stoopnagle

    Also, poor TCU.

  3. Bryant Denny

    Don’t be a hater, Senator.

  4. Connor

    Curiouser and curiouser.

    • The Lone Stranger

      All Haterz here will be tarred as Jabberwocky living in an inverted world. Man, I hope to high heaven that a Bagman comes forward for any reason at all. The real nonce words here come exclusively from the NC2A. They had and protected their cash cow.

  5. Zdawg

    Are you trying to piss me off on a Friday Senator? Job well done sir. At least you made a nice literary analogy wash it down with. Humpty Dumpty has it coming to him. Watch your back on that ledge egg boy….

    • The Lone Stranger

      Hey, we already dispatched of Egg Boy in Jax. You know it may be reality imitating fiction, as they say, since Humpty (Egg Boy) talked to Alice about semantics much in the way Eggy spoke of his “decided schematic advantage!” Hah.

  6. aristoggle

    Feeling a little Jabberwocky today, are we?

  7. Go Dawgs!

    It’s over. I just hope that our coaches take a page out of the playbook and keep hammering on the events of last year’s game both on and off of the field each and every year with Georgia’s players, even after the last players who were in school last year move on.

    It needs to be a very big deal next week.

    • Macallanlover

      It is a big deal every week, next week just gives our guys a chance to exact some revenge. They should all remember that far back. The NCAA and The aU look even dirtier today, if that is even possible. What a crock.
      And some people wonder why there is a lack of respect for the NCAA, the entire AubieCane group, and Slime. We should trade with ANY other conference to get them out of the SEC. But who would want the “dirtiest little program in the land”?

      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        The real fault lies with the NCAA. It trivializes serious violations and takes little or no action against major violators. It elevates trivial violations to a ridiculous level and severely punishes programs who generally are honest when they trip over some innocuous regulation that, in reality, means nothing. I will never forgive the NCAA for what it did to UGA’s 2010 season by suspending AJ Green for selling his own property while casting a blind eye toward Cam Newton’s father trying to shake down Mississippi State. The rule was clear–”or family member”–there was no ambiguity about Cam Newton. The NCAA pretended there was a loophole and gave Newton a slap on the wrist to save Auburn. One other thing. I have never heard before of the NCAA announcing to the world that the investigation was concluded and a school was clean. What about those 4 players who all came forward and told about how they were paid to play at Auburn in the not too distant past? Yet the NCAA found “no evidence” of wrongdoing. NCAA = crooked.

        • HirsuteDawg

          Follow the money. NCAA/SEC/AU all made money on Scam’s non agent. Green made money on his “agent”. SEC and NCAA are always going to interpret to THEIR advantage.

        • Silver Creek Dawg

          I disagree Mayor. The real blame lies with Slime and the conference compliance staff in Birmingham.

          They have documents showing that Cecil and Kenny Rogers broke a conference rule, a rule that would make Cam Newton ineligible at EVERY SEC school, and did NOTHING. Remember, the crux of the matter is the fact that a SEC rule, not a NCAA rule, was broken and it was selectively (not) enforced.

          IMO, Slive and the entire compliance staff should be fired for not doing their damn jobs, but the school presidents don’t have the balls to do it.

          • Mayor of Dawgtown

            You are correct SCD that there was (and still is) an SEC rule that would have made Newton ineligible, almost identical to the NCAA rule. At the very least the SEC is just as guilty as the NCAA–maybe more so when you look at the actions of Mike Slime when MSU reported the violation. Slime sat on the report for months and did nothing until MSU went public, forcing Slime to pretend to take action. A fish stinks from the head down. Slime should be fired along with every other SEC minion of his that played a part in this sorry episode.

      • The Lone Stranger

        Can’t disagree with anything posted therein. Huzzah, sir!

  8. Go Dawgs!

    out of the *Florida* playbook, that is.

  9. JayBird

    “…the NCAA determined that Rogers and Cecil Newton met with Mississippi State assistant coaches, but no one from Auburn.”

    Mississippi State, you have a problem.

    • 69Dawg

      The moral of the story for MSU is don’t tell anything to anybody cause the SEC and NCAA as far as Auburn was concerned were like the 3 Monkeys see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil.

  10. Bard Parker

    Silve and Emmert certainly can belive six impossible things before breakfast

  11. JasonC

    Kenny Rogers is more of a guardian angel looking out for the best interested of America’s youth.

  12. Chuck

    I don’t know, of course, but I have to think that a lot of this is our Athletic Association just bending over in hopes the NCAA will be gentle. Maybe there wasn’t a ‘bag man’ at Auburn, but just the stuff that has been admitted is worse than anything A.J. did. Yet, he sat out four games, three of them critical, and Auburn gets a MNC. But give Auburn credit: they fought for it, and we didn’t, at least not on the face of it.

    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      Chuck, you have put your finger on the problem. UGA has no balls when it comes to dealings with the NCAA or the SEC. I don’t give a rat’s ass what the NCAA rule says about a player not selling jerseys, etc. Such a ban is completely unenforceable as it violates the players right to sell property that belongs to him. There isn’t a court in this country that wouldn’t declare that rule void. The UGA Athletic Department/University Administration should have gone to court and gotten an injunction preventing the NCAA from suspending Green from playing.

    • Macallanlover

      Disagree strongly with this. There are rules, whether it is society or the NCAA/SEC. We acted appropriately and got screwed by those in charge of maintaining order and applying consistent punsihment based on the facts. What you are suggesting is running from the police and making them find you. To put the blame for this anywhere but squarely on the shoulders of those who did not have the gonads to do their job is BS. Why do we have to turn on our own when the blame is clearly in Emmert’s and Slime’s house….period.

      • Chuck

        I am not excusing Emmert and Slive, but if you don’t put up any resistance, you have to accept a little bit of the blame. Auburn resisted. We didn’t. Who came out ahead?

  13. Macallanlover

    The answer to that is obvious, but it doesn’t make it right. I don’t want to be like Auburn, lying, cheating, and not man-ing up is sleazy and unethical. If getting away with something justifies the method, I don’t want to buy in. Let’s kick the cheaters out, and fix the system that cannot distinguish. OJ killed two people and got away with it, I don’t want to do wrong and get a slick lawyer to take advantage of a retarded/biased jury and weak judge. Let’s fix the system.