Without any further ado, here they are.
COMMENTS
- As to Georgia, if you blink fast, you’ll miss that Steele only has a total of three Dawgs on all four of his offensive squads: Murray, Crowell and King. That is sobering. It’s a better story on defense, as the Dawgs tally eight total, including three first-teamers. (I was going to bitch about Ogletree being third team until I saw Clowney only made second team, so I’ll just shut up.) I’m not surprised at the Dawgs being skunked on special teams – heck, they had everybody on last year’s list and look where that got ‘em.
- More broadly, it’s interesting that Steele left Tyler Bray off his list entirely. And it’s probably because of the injury, but in my humble opinion Justin Hunter’s a first teamer all the way.
- TAMU placed five offensive players on the list and two defensive players. Missouri: two on offense, two on defense. For comparison purposes, that’s better than Kentucky, Vanderbilt and Mississippi did (each with two) and similar to Mississippi State (four) and Auburn (five), and Tennessee’s and South Carolina’s (somewhat surprisingly low) six.
- For all the talk about how Corch left the cupboard bare for Muschamp, Florida has nine players on the list.
- And you know you want to know this. Total offensive and defensive players: LSU 13, Alabama 12.
I’ll probably have more after I chew on it some.
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UPDATE: Year2 does all the comparative math I was too lazy to do. With nice looking charts, to boot.
At first glance, my question is… Where is Shawn Williams?
You beat me to it. I won’t complain about Georgia getting eight members of its defense on the list, but where is Shawn Williams? I would have put him ahead of several of the players that made the list.
And we will rely on him heavily at season beginning. Think Seth put him at 4th necessary spot this year.
Ditto this. I will be shocked if he is not 2nd or 3rd team by season’s end.
I am a bit surprised Malcom Mitchell didn’t make considering T. King did at WR. I am assuming it is due to questions whether he will play much offense this year versus CB. I am guessing he is back at WR after Game 2.
I think the injuries hurt him. But I agree that he is certainly one of the top 12 receivers in the conference.
Duron Carter is 3rd team WR. He may not even be on the team!
This should be good bulletin board material!
Tyler Wilson? What, exactly, has Arkansas ever done besides being vastly overrated by virtue of being the third best team in the West last year and trailing Texas A&M and Ole Miss late in games?
My money’s on Chris Conley being a first or second teamer in the All-SEC team that matters… the POSTseason All-SEC team.
Also, Da’Rick Rogers first team?! I suppose it’s fairly safe to assume that he won’t be missing any playing time for discipline, on account of jurist Dooley being soft, but he’s one of the three best receivers in the league? Even if you told me that I only get Malcom Mitchell for two-thirds of my team’s snaps after the Missouri game, I’m still taking him before Rogers.
re: the Senator’s comment that Florida’s got nine players on the pre-SEC team despite having the cupboard left bare by the Corch.
Let’s not forget that John Brantley ended up on some preseason all-SEC lists last year, too. Sometimes, the uniform you’re wearing matters.
I agree, (Rogers wouldn’t even be on my team roster, for many reasons) there are several more talented receivers in the SEC than duh ric, at least one on his own team. Don’t know why PS selected him on the first team. His stats alone weren’t that impressive so when you deduct for the problems/questions he brings he falls short.
I have followed Phil Steele’s predictions or “guess” on Georgia for the past 5 or 6 years. He seem to have over or underrated Georgia most of the time, quite similar to Athlon. Or is it a case of Georgia not answering the call.
Actually, I think he likes us. Can’t excuse him for leaving Herrera off. As subs, Herrera and Gilliard played as well as UGA “stars” they replaced. Why else would we have full confidence with them in the game?
Da’rick isnt even the best WR on his team. Not sure how he’s a 1st teamer. His numbers changed dramatically after Hunter’s injury. When teams only had him to worry about, he became the child he really is.
No Washington on defense? Not even on the 4th team? What’s the thinking there?
Inspired by the Year2 breakdown; I’ve redone the offense and defensive numbers, changing the math slightly (8/4/2/1, wherein each level is “twice” the points of the one below; thus, two second-teamers get the same points as one first-teamer [instead of two third-teamers being equivalent to one first-teamer]). This generates a list that separates the levels a little more clearly:
OFFENSE
34 Arkansas
32 Alabama
19 A&M
17 LSU
15 Tennessee
13 Auburn
12 Georgia
12 SC
8 Kentucky
5 Florida
4 Missouri
4 Vandy
4 Miss State
1 Ole Miss
DEFENSE
35 LSU
32 Alabama
32 Georgia
17 Florida
14 SC
11 Miss State
9 A&M
9 Auburn
7 Arkansas
6 Tennessee
4 Missouri
3 Ole Miss
1 Kentucky
0 Vandy
TOTAL (O+D)
64 Alabama
52 LSU
44 Georgia
41 Arkansas
28 A&M
26 SC
22 Auburn
22 Florida
21 Tennessee
15 Miss State
9 Kentucky
8 Missouri
4 Vandy
4 Ole Miss
These numbers make more sense to me; the top six teams are in the same order, but there’s a clearer difference between Alabama and LSU (and between those teams and UGA/Ark, which are even farther ahead of A&M/SC). In the middle, Auburn fares better in this scale, with Tennessee falling behind them and Florida. Kentucky gets a slight boost over the other bottom three by having one first-teamer, which none of the others have.
I think it is a better look at the teams, but I’m sure Steele thought that two 3rd teamers were indeed equivalent to a 1st teamer (his valuation of players was too close to separate as head and shoulders above someone placed on 1st team).
Shawn Williams is a better safety than Rambo. Steele’s just looking at the number of interceptions Rambo had last year. Anyone with a functioning set of eyes could see that Williams was the best player in our secondary.