Tuesday morning buffet

Rise and shine, campers.

  • Interesting stat of the day:  Missouri was 5-1 last year when allowing fewer than 300 passing yards.  Of course, that was accomplished as a member of a conference not exactly synonymous with power running offenses.
  • Speaking of Missouri, James Franklin is confident he’ll be ready in time for August practice.
  • New Auburn defensive coordinator Brian Van Gorder’s full head of hair and distinctive mustache has folks talking on the plains. There have been Twitter parodies, and Photoshop interpretations, as well as comparisons to Magnum P.I. and Napoleon Dynamite’s Uncle Rico. Van Gorder doesn’t know what all the fuss is about;” All my years at Georgia and nobody ever said anything about it.”
  • Although some of this piece is over the top, I can’t say I disagree with this sentiment:  “You say the public has wanted a playoff. I say the news media have wanted it most, and if a (playoff) drum gets beat on long enough, the public can end up thinking it’s Mozart.”  Not that it matters at this point.
  • Joe at Coaches Hot Seat Blog talks to a long-time Gator fan about his assessment of the 2012 season and gets this response:  “I’m worried boys…..very Damn worried.”
  • Meet Zeke Pike, Ted Roof’s lovely parting gift for Auburn University.
  • Larry Scott knows why he wants a playoff selection committee:  “Listening to some of my colleagues that have served on the men’s basketball committee and realized we have a better chance as a Pac 12 conference to get a fair shake for the fact that we play a nine game conference schedule, the fact that USC and Stanford play Notre Dame, the fact that we play tough out of conference competition, tougher than the SEC or what the Big 12 is doing, and there’s a chance that humans can give us credit for the strength of schedule and credit for what it takes to be the champion of the Pac 12 conference the way that polls and computers cannot.”  Settling it on the field, for the win!
  • Tyler Dawgden gives you reasons why he thinks things are looking up for Georgia’s offensive line.
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69 responses to “Tuesday morning buffet

  1. WarD Eagle

    The Pike thing is hard to call from the outside.

    Apparently, he had discipline problems in HS (suspended twice in senior year), but coaches were okay with bringing him on board. Typically, you gotta be puttin’ on a pretty good idiot show to get a public intoxication, so I’m thinking sending him home was a good move.

    His upside should be good, but man, what a knuckledhead. Steven Garcia, The Rebro.

  2. WarD Eagle

    Maybe he’s more than the average idiot. There might be a bit of assholery there, too.

    “Before his senior season, Pike was also ejected from a 7-on-7 camp for throwing a football at an official.”

    What a douche.

  3. Doug

    That “fan assessment” of the ’12 Gators just makes Phil Steele’s pick for UF to win the East look all the more curious. I have yet to talk to a single Gator fan who’s anywhere near that optimistic. Maybe they’re just lulling us into a false sense of security?

    • D.N. Nation

      Steele was enamored with Florida’s special teams and defense, which is curious, because…

      1) As shown in the Cocktail Party: Even if Florida is going bonkers on special teams, it doesn’t matter if they can’t move the ball otherwise. Who catches balls for the ’12 Gators? Who moves the chains on the ground? Who protects the QB? None of these questions were answered in a satisfactory manner last year (to say nothing for balls-out awful QB play).

      2) Florida’s defense is very very good, which means it’s still not as good as Bama’s or LSU’s or Georgia’s. Maybe better than South Carolina’s this time around, but maybe not.

      I don’t think there’s any way Florida loses at Tennessee, but Muschamp doesn’t have any benefit of the doubt.

    • Keese

      Florida will implode this season…thats my guess

  4. MenloDawg

    Futiak on Mizzou OL: “painfully thin…not the most physical…finesse blocking unit that will have to prove it can handle killer DL’s of Florida, Georgia or USCe,” not exactly a ringing endorsement. I believe it’s more of a positive that we get to exploit that weakness in September with the strongest part of our team, the front 7, than their perceived advantage of hosting us in their SEC opener with a jacked up fanbase.

    • Ubiquitous GA Alum

      And a QB with a bum shoulder that was never very strong & who wants to run as much as throw

    • AusDawg85

      The only team that can beat Georgia at Mizzou is Georgia.

      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        The only team that Georgia EVER loses to is……Georgia.

        • apparently we saw different games when Alabama came to Sanford Stadium for the second black-out game because IMO Bama beat the crap out UGA even w/o our help.

          • Mayor of Dawgtown

            WRONG. That was a self-destruct if there ever was one. The UGA team was not ready to play in the first half and Bama scored 31 unanswered points. In the second half the team woke up and scored 30 (failing on an ill-advised 2 point conversion attempt–it would have been 31 points scored in the second half by the Dawgs) but the Tide scored 1 TD and a FG. In other words the Dawgs beat ‘em 30-10 in the second half. The teams were evenly matched talent-wise.

  5. Dog in Fla

    “You are an ardent member of the College Football Playoff Party….You’re on the brink of victory….Is there a trial starting soon in Alabama, where a Tide fan is charged with taking his fervor, plus pesticide, and poisoning Auburn’s trees?”

    Yes but it’s been continued until Halloween* so Harvey can spend his Summer vacation with Paul during SEC West war games

    *http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/06/harvey_updykes_jury_trial_in_t.html

  6. crowdefrontyard

    The son causes trouble at Auburn and his dad went to Tech. That is a sweet daily double.

  7. Ubiquitous GA Alum

    Man if FU loses to TAMU and UT … yikes … Personally I see them winning those two and losing to FSU

    • Cojones

      I agree and not placing La Laf and BG in their cupcake category says a lot about perception of FU. It is all over the place. BG used to have good QBs and acceptable teams to go with them, but not in the last 5-7 yrs. Mizzou is also all over the place and no one will be sure of what they have until after we play them.

      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        Sorry to disagree senor but Mizzou is going to finish #2 in the SEC East this coming season–IF Georgia beats ‘em.

        • Cojones

          Wouldn’t like to put money on that, would you, Mayor? :) IF UGA beats them, then SC and FU can beat them also this year. If UGA doesnt beat them, I think they could win it all, but that scenario is unlikely.

          • Mayor of Dawgtown

            In conference I got Mizzou losing to UGA and Bama, plus maybe to A&M. 6-2 likely is going to be the second best record in the East. 5-3 might be tied second.

  8. WWF

    While I want to believe the offensive line situation with suddenly get better, there are some concerns. 1) You lost 4 lineman to the NFL, that’s a large talent drop off 2) you end up with only 31 games of experience combined as a unit, Patrick Garbin wrote that 80% of the time in the past when that happened, Georgia won less games the next season. the defensive lines of South Carolina and Florida are particularly troubling 3) People are assuming the sacks are the fault of the offensive line personel or schemes. Hutson Mason disproved this, only getting sacked once all season. Cox and Stafford also disproved this, both never getting sacked more than 20 times in a season.

  9. What fresh hell is this?

    Hot Seat predicts a Florida loss vs TAMU and a win vs Florida St?

    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      Hot Seat is FOS. I agree with some of the wins/losses for FU but the Gators ain’t beating FSU and probably not Missouri.

  10. WWF

    Steele thinks Florida will beat Georgia because most of the time, what 17 out of last 21 games or something like that, they have won. And how often does Georgia beat Florida back to back over the last 20 years? Not once. Steele knows his SEC history. Until Georgia beats Florida back to back, you got to go with history. That’s why he picked Florida.

    • Macallanlover

      That’s pretty weak rationale for his pick, games played before either the players or coaches existed are relevant? Why not just include the entire series record? I think he picked it that way because UGA is likely to stub their toe somewhere, nearly every team does, and UF will have great motivation to win in JAX against a team that should be higher rated. And the STs edge can be huge in close match-ups.

      The offensive line questions still are my biggest concern. I don’t agree with the blog author’s report that Theus is very strong and should be able to move DTs back. At this level of play, that is no small task for a guy who has been pushing around athletes much weaker than him. I hope he is right, but Sturdivant is one of the few I have ever seen do that at UGA. SEC defenses are challenging to young men despite their pedigree.

      • Cojones

        Dang! I think our Mother kept you and gave me away. That was exactly my thought on Theus. If this kid isn’t all American by midseason, the naysayers will be back with the comments about players “not being developed”, “not as advertised”, etc. …and Sturdivant was the best.

        • Macallanlover

          You may be right, be sure to put me in your will just in case. I am really excited about the potential of Theus, we haven’t been too successful in recruiting at this position so it is particularly encouraging. I don’t follow recruiting as closely as many but I think it is a very difficult task to evaluate talent when you don’t see these HS stars challenged by top-flight athletes. Perhaps at the camps, but not many HS players challenge the elite players. Sturdivant was exceptional, and it is a shame what happened to him during his college career, I hope life deals him some better cards from here on out.

  11. WWF

    if the offensive pass protection and run blocking was so bad in 2011, why did 4 of them get drafted by the NFL? This doesn’t make sense. Can someone please explain this to me?

  12. WWF

    I am just saying the NFL concluded 4 the offensive line were among the best in the nation at passblocking and runblocking. Some might point to Bobo’s schemes, but the schemes worked in 2007-2009 when the sack totals stayed under 20.

    • And once upon a time, the Atlanta Falcons concluded that Aundray Bruce was the best player in college football. See how that works?

      Give the trolling a rest, brother.

    • Skeptic/Charlotte/Whateverthehellnameyou’reusingfromthesameIPaddressDawg, is that you?

      • Skeptic Dawg

        No, sorry. My rants revolve around Richt. It is amazing he is still the head coach. Did you know that UGA is 0-9 vs ranked teams the past 2 years and 5-15 dating back to 2007 (these numbers come from CFB Stats)? Solid coaching.

      • charlottedawg

        FWIW i actaully agree with most of your posts. And just because I point out areas I think the team needs to improve doesn’t mean I’m A) always crticial of the team or B) don’t support my alma mater and want to see this coaching staff and team do well. Please don’t lump me in with a guy like Skeptic who says he doesn’t like Chick-fil-a solely for the sake of being a contrarian or whoever the hell WWF is.

        • Hilton Head Dawg

          My dislike for the Chick-fil-a sandwich and chicken biscuit are quite real. There is no swimming against the current on that on. I do like their peach milkshake, if that counts for something.

  13. Scott does have a point on scheduling, the Pac 12 does seem to do a very good job as a conference going outside of their region to play big boys. I would add though, if he’s gonna lump us and the Big 12 together, the least he could do would be include the Big 10. The SEC as a whole plays more high level OOC games, and more high level OOC road/neutral games, than the MAC loving Big 10 does, and it’s not even close.

    • Cojones

      Doesn’t it begin to bother someone that we heard selection could involve a hefty dose of SOS? Think they (PAC12 and Delany) had that in mind long ago and they are pumping up the SOS perception to overcome SEC power ? Of course they are because they see no other way to begin to overcome the talent and coaching deficit except with polling mind games.

      • The only conference that can compete with us on SOS is the Pac 12. As said, if you look at the quality OOC games between the SEC and Big 10, the SEC schedules more and more road/neutral games, and it’s not close.

        • Cojones

          That won’t keep Delany from sales puffery. The PAC12 and BIG10 will sell those games to the pollsters like they are playing NFL-disguised teams. Any OOC game they have that is listed in the bottom quartile will be puffed up to a 40-50 spot without anyone noticing, but will win the day in polls computers over other teams playing someone in the bottom quartile(e.g. UGA/Buffalo).

          • Mayor of Dawgtown

            The real problem with the Big-10 and the Pac-12 is that the bottom half of those conferences are, in reality, cupcakes but nobody in the media says it. So those conferences can play more conference games without fear of the top teams losing. They have their own cupcakes in-house. So when UGA schedules Buffalo and beats the crap out of them by 42 ESPN says “easy schedule” and knocks us down for it but when Michigan or Ohio State beats Indiana or the Illini by 10 ESPN says “Big-10 conference win” and gives them accolades. UGA or Bama would have beaten either one by 35. What a bunch of BS.

  14. Did Van Gorder really say no one mentioned his hair while he was at UGA..really… he must have been one hard working SOB who never got out much because as good a Defensive coach as he was I and many to the posters on this blog found the porn star hair dew and mustache down right embarrassing Does he own a mirror?.

  15. WWF

    I just can’t figure out why some fans think the 2011 offensive line stunk, when 4 of them got drafted by NFL scouts. What did they conclude about pass protection and run blocking?

  16. WWF

    If the offensive line had scheme issues related to passblocking, why didn’t Bobo struggle with Cox and Stafford and those 3 offensive lines? If it were personel last year being why Georgia gave up so many sacks, t5hen why did 4 go to the NFL? It must be something else. What are alternative explanations for the conference worst sacks, besides offensive line personel, and pass blocking scheme?

  17. Quit beating around the bush and get to the point. We all know you’re eventually going to try and pin all the sacks on Murray, just go ahead and do it so we can commence laughing at you.

  18. Because we watched them. And because the stats prove our offensive line was horrible protecting Murray and opening holes for our RBs. Also, it was 3, not 4, because Orson Charles is about the weakest blocking “offensive line” player in history if we include him in that group. Bean Anderson is among that group, and while he is a great road grader as a drive blocking RG, which would be where he fits in to an NFL roster, he is horrible against speed on the edge at T. We played him at T, which was in part why we couldn’t use our TEs as much as we should have. The other OT was Cordy Glenn, also an excellent G, which is where he’ll ultimately play in the NFL, and like Bean although not as bad, he was not quick enough to handle an edge well. We had injury issues (Dallas Lee, among others), eligibility issues (Houston), positional issues (Glenn and Bean at OT instead of OG where they belong), and overall we were just a bit fat and struggled both late in games and with quicker opposition.

  19. Jamcity

    I am going with the NFL scouts opinions of our o-line instead of bloggers.

    Murray will learn to make the 1 key djustment— hit secondary receivers in 2012 and therefor take less sacks, throw less interceptions, and complete more balls. Why am I convinced Murray will have a better year? Murray’s NFL dreams will force better habits in 2012.

  20. Dog in Fla

    Unlike Andy, they couldn’t handle a blitzer

  21. AusDawg85

    (pssst….quite….listen up….I think he wants one of us to say it’s Murray’s fault and why Mason should be starting. Stop berating him with facts.)

  22. Cojones

    How could you be so heartless as to spoil it for her?

  23. NFL scouts didn’t say our OL was good, or that it played well as a unit. They just liked the idea of how 3 of our lineman might work going forward, mostly at different positions than we had them.

  24. Mayor of Dawgtown

    +1. We had an O-Line full of guards last season. Just like there is a difference between the skills required of a HB and a FB there is a difference in the skill sets of guards vs. tackles. Yeah you can play a guard at tackle just like you can play a FB at RB and it might even work most of the time, until you run into a team with personnel that can take advantage of the out of position player. Then you can see that it really was a patchwork job. Playing people out of position is a roster management problem which falls directly on the HC. On a CFB show this week the panel was talking about how good the upcoming Southern Cal team is but their weakness is depth because of sanctions limiting them “to only 74 scholarship players.” Hell, that’s our normal “real” scholarship player roster ALL THE DAMN TIME! When you don’t use all your available scholarships on players who can really contribute what do you get when people leave, flunk out or get injured? You get 165 pound RBs running into a non-existent hole in the line, that’s what.

  25. WarD Eagle

    I’m a likely starter at UT.