The secret of their success

So, who’s more inept – Kiehl Frazier or his coaches?

MSU coaches said the defense was able to take Frazier, who had 18 yards passing in the first three quarters, out of comfort zone because of the “trickle down effect,” which allowed the linebackers to let the rest of the defense know what was coming as Frazier shouted signals.

“It makes our job as coaches so much easier when (MSU senior linebacker) Cam Lawrence is signaling over his head every time they were calling a pass,” MSU co-defensive coordinator/linebackers coach Geoff Collins said Monday.

Lawrence and sophomore Matt Wells figured out the Tigers’ play calls, which enabled the MSU secondary to know how many players it needed at the line of scrimmage by the end of the first quarter.

That, um, sounds like a problem.  Especially when you’ve got a green quarterback who doesn’t have the responsibility of being able to check out of plays that his coaches have telegraphed to the other team’s players.

I’m sure Chizik’s jumping right on that sucker this week.  Good thing he’s got a Sun Belt team coming in to give him the opportunity to work the kinks out.  Oh… wait a minute.

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51 responses to “The secret of their success

  1. DugLite

    ULM…two in a row baby!!!!

    • BR Dawg

      If ULM wins they will have the lead in the SEC west!

      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        You joke but one season long ago LSU played 4 OOC games against SWC opponents and won them all. That was when the South Western Conference played 6 conference games. The winner of the SWC that year (Texas I think) had a record in the conference of 4-2 meaning that LSU won as many SWC games as the SWC conference champion.

  2. Cojones

    And their D coaches aren’t doing so hot either. Revenge for 2010, Part Deux, coming up.

    • Cojones

      Wonder when their new and tattoed recruits will catch on? I think if you are buddies with Reuben Foster and you want to play CFB together, you better remind him he has joined two teams and he better kick out to UGA quickly if he wants to play with you.

      I’m not one for too much angst about conspiracies, but the Cam Newton affair gets new wheels every game that Chizik coaches without him. I even think that Munson would get high on our game on the plains this year.

      • Scorpio Jones, III

        Whaddaya got Larry?

        • Scorpio Jones, III

          Wait….I thought that guy on the Awbun sidelines….the one with the porn-star stache….I thought he was a genius….that’s what I read here.

          • Mayor of Dawgtown

            Yeah. And that guy who coaches the Aubies’ DBs is a really good coach, too. Riiiiight.

          • Rocket Dawg

            After BVG’s tenure with the Falcons and now at AU I am starting to wonder if his defenses at the beginning of the CMR regime were more a product of outstanding talent (i.e. Pollack, Blue, Davis, et. al) and less of an indication of his coaching prowess. If you look at where the defense started to drop off it is when that first group of players graduated/moved on (most of them to the NFL) and were replaced by less talented players in the same scheme. For BVG/Willie M’s scheme to work you have to have a dominant pass rush from the from the front 4 and then play soft zone behind, blitzing at strategic moments for maximum effect.

            It will be interesting to see if they can buy some better defensive players over the next year or two.

            To give credit where credit is due, BVG was a master of the halftime adjustment. You knew that when you played UGA that you better get all you could in the first half because that D was going to shut you down in the second half.

  3. Careful Brad

    All I can think of is Cam Newton’s interview with Gruden when Chucky is talking about the complexity of NFL play calls and he asks for an Auburn play. Newton’s response “36″

  4. jryuuu

    didn’t ole miss get their signals figured out a season or two ago too? i think they held up the initials of the receiver/rb the play was going to on a poster..

    • sniffer

      My Auburn coworkers (exciled in Montgomery) claimed that Alabama was stealing signs in the Iron Bowl. Good grief, when will they learn.

      • adam

        Jarvis was able to figure out Mizzou’s snap count. If Auburn doesn’t make some changes, I’m betting he or Christian Robinson will figure out Auburn’s signals.

  5. Normaltown Mike

    Had lunch with an Auburn grad and he thinks Chizik will get canned DURING the season.

    Says the LB’s stink (linchpin of BVG defense) and the offensive coaching is worse than terrible.

    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      If Cheatsit gets canned look for the Aubies to hire……Bobby Petrino. They’ll do it before UT can.

      • Dog in Fla

        In the meantime (and before the triumphant return of Bobby and his monogramed sweats from exile on a jet to Lee County), Scott (former coach to college passing stars Tom Brady and Tim Tebow) Loeffler thinks that somebody moved Kiehl Frazier’s Football Points and suspects that Dirk Diggler did it to take the heat off himself

      • Joe Schmoe

        I don’t think Auburn will fire Chizik this close to his national championship campaign for the reason that they will basically be spitting on their own championship and saying “We agree that out NC was basically a fluke due to a couple of extremely gifted players.”

  6. AusDawg85

    Frazier signaled “Pass” once Dyer got busted for “Grass”.

  7. What fresh hell is this?

    Wow, the trickle down effect really does work.

  8. Joe Schmoe

    Man – Auburn is a hot mess right now. I’m glad to see my thoughts on Chizik be confirmed. I never thought he was a very good coach and won a championship on the back of one incredible athlete.

  9. ScoutDawg

    Yeah, now that we have resurrected defense in Athens, it would make my day for that POS to get hired at Barners. 1. We could rape him and his team. 2. We would never lose another player to the tat.

  10. ScoutDawg

    Who remembers when Bud Foster, Ellis Johnston, et al, etc., turned down job offers from UGA? Larry wasn’t even there yet, but was looking down from on high and protected us.

  11. Stoopnagle

    Um… I like trucks.

  12. Ed Kilgore

    I don’t know why Auburn doesn’t just give the HC job to Trooper Taylor and have done with it. He’s the only consistently successful member of the coaching staff. And if he’s as dirty as some think he is, the program will go down with him regardless of his position in the hierarchy.

  13. S.E. Dawg

    Well, if they fire their coaches I hope they leave Grantham alone. Be careful what we wish for.

  14. Where is Illuminati dawg when you need him ? It’s perfectly obvious that as soon as they fire Chizik we(whoever “we” maybe) will see to it that Kirby Smart will get the job and one more piece of the elaborate puzzle will be in place. Excellent ….so sayeth Mr Burns.

    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      +1. Then when SOS retires if we can get South Carolina to hire Neal Callaway and we’ll pretty much have things covered.

  15. Cojones

    Innocent trees have been poisoned, Lowder has been deposed, angst has crept into the O AND the D, assts are squabbling, old scores are being settled, the look on the head coach’s face now belies what’s happening to his world, Chizik’s chin has gotten sharper and it doesn’t give him any more character, the faculty is taking their University back, no more jet rides to hire a guy they now are going to interview by sending a harlot on a Harley to undercut yet another active coach at Auburn…….

    Stay tuned for next week’s episode of “Burning Auburn down, trees and all” and follow the exciting changeling of a team that emanates from the smoke every week to begin play of yet another game, follow the setting up of campus tents by the NCAA for their prolonged “live inside their skin” inspection……follow the destruction and mayhem that follows and wait for them to arise from the ashes to be known as Phoenix City, Ala…… no, wait..The name is already taken? And it was a hellhole in the 50s? Ya think Phoenix City could just annex them along with Opelika? Tune in next week for the next installment…. Brought to you by Fing Scooters, “Gettin’ that ass where it gotta’ go!”.

  16. Y’all digress.
    Going back to the premise (that Fraizer was tipping his hand before pass plays), it could be any player on the offense that is tipping. When studying film, you look for any telling quirk or idiosyncricy (ie…a back who rocks back on his heels consistantly before the ball is snapped on pass play….a wide reciever who walks from the huddle on running plays, but hurries to the line if it’s a pass play….a tight end or tackle who lines up a little deeper or slightly facing the sideline on a passing play). When you watch enough film to notice a player that does it consisently (or tips off which way a running play is going by “pointing” his body in that direction), you can exploit it. Of course, it could be reading the plays from the sideline. I even know of one case where a tight end was telling the defensive end when the QB was going to throw it because he hated the QB. At first the DE was skeptical, but as the game progressed he realized the gift was genuine.

  17. Pardon my horrible spelling. The older I get the worse my spelling gets, and I’m to lazy to “look it up”.