And so, the urine cup finally drops.
Woke me up out my good sleep for a drug test smh— Garrison Smith (@GarrisonSmith56) March 28, 2013
Over/under on suspensions?
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It’s beyond ridiculous.
O/U is 3. And i’m assuming we will not know until after Kick Off at Clempson to see who isn’t playing.
i agree 1.5, just off history one would say 2 or more, easy… but got a good feeling this year we will only have 1…and it will be a newbie…
None they learned from last year’s team and want to win it all.
3, same as last year or some other year. To reach that O/U goal, in today’s episode of As the Urine Flows, while at the trough for the usual and customary Spring Break, Bitches! testing, players wonder whether philosopher Adams will take his moral compass with him when he becomes the Departed or will he pass it on to Dr. Jere?
“Different people have different philosophies on this. I think it’s important for people to know where our moral compass is on this issue,” Adams said.
Tone burst…No modulation…”Set Phazers to FABULOUS…”
Knowing Dr. Jere, I will tell you that he has his own moral compass. It’s “real and” it’s “spectacular!” Far superior to Mike’s.
I am certain this is not CMR or McGarity at work. This is Mike Adams. I am counting the days until that worthless POS steps down. Hopefully the new Prez isn’t as big a knucklehead. This post-spring-break drug testing of athletes is discrimination because the University does not drug test the entire student body and somebody ought to challange this in court.
Athletes have a unique contractual relationship with the school through their scholarships which I am sure stipulate that they can be randomly drug tested at the discretion of the institution. There is no basis for a legal challenge even if logically this makes no sense.
How about the Admin/Profs etc?
Let them line up to pee and see who cries uncle.
Slow down there, PTC … you don’t want to drag the faculty into this. We, I mean THEY, have don’t have a doob in this fight!
Whooooaa … he said have twice!
That’s complete bullshit in context of what is happening in Florida. I would love to see an FU athlete refuse a drug test and bring suit when he is suspended from the team. The 11th district court upheld a lower court ruling that the state can not drug test welfare recipients as a condition of them receiveing benefits. How is this different?
Most of the non-athlete student body is receiving scholarship money of some kind. Didn’t those kids as a condition of receiving their scholarships have to sign a document that allows the school to randomly drug-test them? “No,” you say. Why not? That’s the discrimination right there.
I agree that it’s BS but the rest the majority of the student body also don’t get full scholarships and their housing fully paid for either.
Yeah, but the non-athletic part of the student body that does isn’t required to pee on command.
The reason the school does it with S-As is to preclude the NCAA from drug testing its athletes.
I thought the NCAA still tested, no matter the testing by the University.
Do the students with full ride School provided academic scholly’s get tested? Is there no argument in that?
I agree that it is a complete double standard. But it is two different contracts that have been independently agreed to by the students. I was just saying that while stupid and unfair there isn’t a legal basis for challenging what the school is doing.
If I hold a gun to your head and say, “sign this or else,” is that enforceable? What about duress? And before you say it’s not the same thing ’cause the kid doesn’t have to go to college at all, if such a clause is standard among all NCAA universities the kid is precluded from going pro and has to play at the college level even to get a chance at the NFL. His option is to get a job, wait for 3 years, then try to make it to the NFL-hardly viable. Just because the NCAA and NCAA member institutions have been getting away with this for years doesn’t mean that it is legal.
The drug test clause doesn’t come close to legal duress. It might be a take-it-or-leave-it contract, but those are perfectly legal.
I suppose a student-athlete could argue that it violates a constitutional right to privacy, but the complaint would get dismissed outright. Even if a court recognized such a due process right, the court would still find that the impingement is justified.
Employment contracts often have these types of clauses; like NCAA-member schools, employers exercise the right to administer drug tests to varying extents. If employees haven’t been successful in having such clauses legally invalidated, a student-athlete’s chances are even more doubtful.
UGA tests on their own in addition to NCAA – not sure who responsible for timing. Copy / paste from NCAA Re: Year-Round Drug-Testing Program =
All student-athletes competing in any Division I & II sports are subject to NCAA random on or off-campus drug testing throughout the year (including summer).
Think I should have phrased that better. NCAA only tests for performance-enhancing drugs if school tests for recreational drugs.
and most students dont generate millions in revenue.
Maybe not directly, but when I write those tuition checks I certainly feel a bit lighter in the checking account. ;-)
also that spring breakers movie looks awesome.
I hope you were being sarcastic.
Rave reviews so far:
“Spring Breakers is one of the worst movies I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s saying something… By the end of the film, you just hope the characters will use guns on themselves and put the audience out of their misery.”
“In other words, Spring Breakers isn’t just a terrible movie, it’s 90 minutes of reinforcement of the party girl image, the kind of bad girl who’s “just asking for it”‘.
in other words, AWESOME.
yeah did you see the part with the hot chicks in very little clothing…looks awesome to me.
We know this is coming and so do they. Simple as that. If my employer tells me they’re going to drug test me in a particular date range how stupid do I have to be to put myself in a position to get a positive test result? I’d be risking my future. If I’m that dumb do you really want me on your team? Spare me all the crap about how they’re just college kids, everybody does it, other scholarship recipients don’t get tested and such. NONE of that matters AT ALL. These athletes know what’s expected, they know what’s coming and they know when it’s coming. They make choices. Let’s hope they choose well. Otherwise they will live with the consequences. That’s life. It ain’t fair and it never will be. Ever. We should all get over it.
When our competition starts doing it, I’ll get over it.
When our competitors have the same penalties for testing positive, I’ll get over it.
Until then, I do not like UGA putting itself at a competitive disadvantage to our rivals.
exactly…life and fair and UGA is deciding to start with one foot in a hole. Why make things harder on yourself?
Anybody that plays first team probably had the option to go elsewhere. They chose Georgia knowing full well that our drug testing policy is probably the strictest in NCAA Division I. It ain’t a secret. They know. They chose. They want coddling they can go to Florida or LSU. Or lots of other places for that matter. You can make all the excuses you want. Conjure up your righteous indignation if it makes you feel better. It is what it is. They know it. I doubt very, very seriously anything will change with Adams departure. So don’t get your hopes up.
Drug testing anyone you are in a relationship with is pointless. Drug testing student athletes puts your entire sports program at a disadvantage, costs money, and has zero positive benefits.
Although I have tried to enhance this blog with drug culture updates about S-As not being individually all that different from other students, Paul’s words ring true and final on the matter as it relates to our Dawgs.
Sure nothing will change with Adams’ departure but can’t that be something up with which we can get our hopes and dreams?
I see no reason for UGA to put itself at a competitive disadvantage, you seem to be OK with it. Obviously, opinions vary.
This is just one of many ways that the UGA brass puts the school’s teams at a disadvantage, yet still expects them to win. The only reason for this particular drug test policy was to make Mike Adams look good. The smugness is palpable.
The point I’m trying to make is that is really doesn’t matter what you and I think. Agree or disagree isn’t the issue. The drug testing policy at Georgia exists. It’s extremely well publicized. The players know precisely what they’re getting into. They attend Georgia by choice. They have no basis to complain or be upset. Neither do we. We like to blame Adams. I will be utterly amazed if the policy changes upon his departure.
Fans have every right to complain. I realize the tests exist.
With luck the policy will change without fanfare. Hopefully, the practice of giving such tests at absolutely the worst possible times will also.
Over/under is six. Four starters. All on defense.
Three players to be moved from offense in the first two games to fill the gaps.
Coaching staff has its excuse for losing.
President boasts again about maintaining balance in academics vs. athletics.
I seriously doubt the Coaching staff wants this. Too much on the line for them.
Judging by Adams’ kickball skill set I wonder if he is not one of those academicians that looks down his nose at football players and sports in general. He is in a bit of quandary as his budget benefits from football’s success. “Frankly that’s a question for the coaches,” Adams said. “Let me be clear: Other than them informing me about it, knowing what my position on it was, this latest round was initiated by them. It was not directed by me.” Yeah….that’s another pursed lipped statement by a President that I just ain’t buying.
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for sending in their donations yet again and supporting my athletics department. The Board of Regents thanks you too. We do things our way and you all will keep doing what you’re told, which you should be very proud of.
I also want to urge everyone to keep it up when Jere takes over so that it is business as usual. Thanks.
Shhh. We weren’t supposed to talk about this. We’re building your palace over on Hull Street. That was our deal.
Shut up Greg. Get back to working on maximizing profit margin.
I am close to an agreement with Magill to coach the baseball team next year as a volunteer. Show me some gratitude.
Attaboy. I knew you would be a good hire.
Let’s meet tomorrow and talk about cutting back the amount of carbonation in all our concession drinks. I’ve been wanting to do this for a while.
This entire exchange is priceless. Well done.
Here’s a surveillance shot of Michael dancing with Greg in which Michael tells Greg that not only is Michael giving Greg a pay raise, he now needs to find a colorist and stop dying his hair himself
And when 1 or 2 test positive, we will get to hear the slew of media reports about our thug program, Richt’s lack of discipline, and speculation of weeks about suspensions. We will get smeared in the press and compared to other programs (none of whom test or have a lax recreational drug testing policy).
It’s Springtime for maintenance on the Hotseat machine
My vote is Zero. Yep. I think we were more selective with the tests.
I’d put money on Garrison passing this test. He seems like one who thinks these kind of things through.
Isn’t drug testing up to the school for marijuana? Seems like i heard Oregon did not test, others too I think. What do you do in states like Colorada with legalized pot? With multiple states allowing the sale of marijuana, and it’s ability to stay in the body tissues for months, how can it remain on the list for punishment? I have no problem with setting standards for behavior but the playing field should at least be in the same ball park with those you compete with. We can never do anything to shame certain schools because they are just dirty but the start point should be closer together. Why do we really need an NCAA structure for football again?
Let’s don’t get the cart before the horse…… the feds have yet to respond and Mexico can’t be happy. How will they pay their politicians? I don’t know if there is a possibility of a “executive order”…. lol. So far it’s just Colorado and Washington. As far as football players in those states don’t they have to be 21 to toke?
“The declaration formalizes A64 as part of Colorado’s state constitution and makes legal the personal use, possession and limited home-growing of marijuana under Colorado law for adults aged 21 and older.”
I hope Cojones doesn’t migrate and go BUFFALO fan on us. This one’s for you Cojones and “Save the Whales”, “If it is yellow let it mellow” and “Shower with a friend!”
Just sayin’ ;-)
That’s a really interesting point about Colorado. It would really be no different than testing 21-yr-old student-athletes for alcoholic consumption.
In states that have legalized pot, the NCAA or universities in those states would be free to administer drug tests, but if the student-athlete is over 21 and tests positive for marijuana, nothing would happen. Would that even constitute a drug violation under NCAA bylaws? Surely it wouldn’t constitute a drug violation under Colorado’s student code of conduct.
I don’t know. It’s an interesting idea to think about. If NCAA could punish players for engaging in legal activities that are illegal in most states, is there any limit to what the NCAA could regulate in these player’s lives? I suppose the NCAA could justify regulating marijuana use (punishing players for testing positive) b/c it’s still a violation of federal law.
It’s not just that. The NCAA can already punish players for engaging in legal activities. See also: Green, AJ vis-a-vis jersey sale.
Yea, the NCAA definitely can and does when the regulated conduct is related to college athletics (performance-enhancing substances that are otherwise completely legal for the general population). But what about legal activity that is completely unrelated to college athletics?
Universities can regulate basically any conduct they want. For example, a particularly conservative school’s code of conduct might prohibit premarital sex. What I’m less clear about is the boundaries of the NCAA’s power (a more precise term might be “influence”) in this area.
I would like to be involved in the investigation/enforcement area of that premarital violation. Can’t be that young again but just being that close to the action would be pretty exciting!
Chris Clemons made a idiotic statement today and will likely get some heat and deservedly so. He tweeted that it would be a “selfish act” for an NFL player to come out. What an ass.
I know Ryne Rankin tweeted, ‘…and we ball like swoosh’, over spring break, which is the line in the Lil’ Wayne song ‘Kush’ that immediately follows him rapping, ‘…and we smoke that kush’.
I’m not saying a guy tweeting a lyric that references a song about dope is necessarily smoking dope…I love rap music and lyrics and that does’t mean I’m cooking up a chicken, but it’s certainly not promising.
Worried me at the time, worries me even more now.
For reference’s sake, here’s the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNlZ32wTWiU
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