SEC schedule concerns, clear as mud

Again, given the variety of agendas on display, it’s no surprise that the SEC is sticking with the eight-game conference schedule for now.  But in the same breath, most folks sound like Will Muschamp.

“Personally, I think we’ll end up moving to nine (conference) games eventually,” Florida coach Will Muschamp said. “My personal opinion (is) you create an SEC Network, at the end of the day, it’s going to be driven by the dollar, and having those games is going to be important, and having enough quality games on television promoting a nine-game SEC regular season, in my opinion, will eventually happen.”

In the meantime, the official position of the conference is incoherent.

SEC commissioner Mike Slive said it’s doubtful the 2014 schedule will be finalized this week at the league’s spring meetings. He’s declined to weigh in on whether he’s in favor of going to nine conference games. But he didn’t hold back on the importance of SEC schools upgrading their nonconference schedules.

“I don’t want us playing four games that mean less,” Slive said. “I made that very clear.”

In other words, coaches don’t want the added burden of another conference game on the schedule, ADs don’t want to lose a seventh home game, but the commissioner expects his  member schools to upgrade their non-conference schedules by adding another tough game that would most likely be negotiated on a home and home basis.  If there’s a logic to this, it escapes me.

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15 responses to “SEC schedule concerns, clear as mud

  1. Jonathan

    Could it be that Slive is looking to upgrade the offering to the networks through either option? He’s telling the schools that they better step up ooc scheduling or they will be forced to accept the 9 game schedule. The ADs and coaches’ concerns don’t matter to him, I think at least.

    • The other Doug

      Yep. He told them we need better content. You can upgrade your OOC schedule or add a conference game. They will revisit this in 2014 and 2015, and at that time it will be obvious that the ADs and coaches will not upgrade their OOC schedules with out a foot in their arses.

  2. One of the schools that routinely schedules a tough non-conference game on a home-and-home basis is LSU… who argues about the disparity in cross divisional opponents… and who would pick up a relatively easier cross-divisional game in most years compared to the ones they were complaining about (ROLL TIDE) if they went to a nine-game conference schedule.

    So Slive has given an edict. Play a ninth game that isn’t directional state. You can do that by playing another SEC team or by scheduling out of conference, but you will play a ninth game that people will want to watch. Of all teams, it seems LSU would jump on board for the nine-game conference schedule. The fact that they are opposed proves that logic has no place in this discussion.

  3. PTC DAWG

    How can you upgrade with the threat of a 9 game SEC schedule hanging over you? Schedules are made years in advance. With other conferences going to 9 games, not a lot of options per year either.

    Either say you are going to 9 or not, get on or off the horse.

  4. Snake Plissken

    Conferences go up and conferences go down in strength…somehow these masters of the universe must come up with an equitable method of rewarding teams that play tough schedules…come up with something like you must play a set number of Tier-one schools, so many Tier-two schools, and so many Tier-three schools…you could also still throw a bone at some breather schools so that their programs get a nice pay day (but only one game)…points will be assigned up front for just scheduling these teams, win or lose…if your conference in a down period, then so be it, do something about it… schedule more Tier-one schools to make up for being in a less talented conference, hey you still gets points win or lose because strength of schedule…a cupcake schedule shouldn’t be rewarded for playing, and winning, one big time game a year…I know that there are many people that are a lot smarter than me out there, but I do know that no system should be subjective to allow know-it-alls voting for their alma attar, their conference, the neighbor’s kid, or whatever criteria they justify putting a team with a perfect record, playing an easy schedule, ahead of a team that plays a tougher schedule week in and week out…Snake out

  5. Snake Plissken

    sorry about the double post…dang slow server

  6. Cojones

    Are they waiting for Delaney to gain traction with polls concerning how “strong” the scheduled oocs can be merrygandered ? The next front conjured up by Delaney is to claim ooc teams played by the Big10 are stronger than SEC teams we all have on our schedule. An example would consist of scheduling ND and claiming early in the season that they are second only to Bama, never mind how they end up for the season. That way Delaney influences the polls as to SOS before that strength is accurately determined.

  7. HVL Dawg

    Senator, I know you don’t comment on basketball, but you do comment on league administration and money. So I’m curious if you’ve read about Slive’s initiative to get involved in basketball non conference scheduling. He was quoted to say that weak non conference scheduling is keeping the SEC out of the basketball tournament, and that SEC participation in the tournament equals NCAA tournament units, and that units equal money to the league. He’s really working the issue pretty aggressively.

  8. Cosmic Dawg

    The first ridiculous thing is Slive wagging his finger at member schools about their out of conference scheduling – something he should not have any say in, imho – rather than achieve his so-called goals through the vehicle he actually should have say in, you know, the actual conference he is supposed to lead.

    The second ridiculous thing is that a ninth SEC game only gives you a single extra SEC game an 8% or whatever harder schedule. And it’s not going to be Alabama every time – sometimes it’s gonna be one of the teams in a downward trajectory like TN or KY were last year.

    The third ridiculous thing is that the teams complaining about playing another SEC team are IN the SEC., and therefore supposed to be equal to the level of competition. Every other team that plays in that ninth game will be a favorite – it’s not like we’re adding another game against the giants from Neptune or something.

    The fourth ridiculous thing is – and you will correct me if I’m wrong – that I believe, historically, the team you’d get if you averaged A&M and Mizzou would be slightly below average for SEC teams. Not far below average, but somewhere in South Carolina territory. So while A&M is pretty tough right now, from a historical perspective the SEC has already gotten a little easier.

    Finally, similar to #3 – your stinkin’ team is IN THE SEC. Supposedly, this is partly what gives you your street cred, this is what you signed up for, right? Therefore, you ought to be ready to strap it on and play against any other team in the SEC any Saturday in the fall. Period – nine, ten, eleven, however many games appear on your schedule. Crystal footballs ought to be almost secondary to winning the SEC, and SEC teams ought to be ashamed to be talking this way in public.

    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      CD, your point about the SEC Commissioner’s office having no business telling conference member schools whom to play as OOC games is right on the money (pun intended). That’s up to the school itself acting through its AD and is an internal decision only based on the needs of that institution. Some need a guarenteed win. Some need a win over a quality opponent to help get to the BCSNCG. Some just need the $$ they get by filling a stadium, paying a team to come without an away committment, and just keeping the profit. Since when does the SEC get to dictate to member schools about non-conference matters?

  9. Macallanlover

    Pretty sad when Boom has a better handle on an issue than the SEC Commissioner, when can we get rid of this lightweight? Agree with other comments about how hard it is to listen to people whine about playing another SEC team. This is Big Boy football, if you want an easier road, there are plenty of openings in the Southern Conference these days. Go play there then you can have a conference title as cheaply earned as a Big 10/11/12 conference and buy your meaningless rings and crystal footballs. Set your sights low enough and you will be able to achieve them for a while. These guys get paid enough to man-up and earn their victories, and fans deserve a better contest for the money they pay. Maybe time for Les to go back to the Great Lakes area, and take wimpy Spurrier with him. To their credit, FU/Bama/TN/AU and UGA aren’t begging out.

  10. DawgPhan

    all the schedule non-sense over $600k per school. great choice.