This is how you measure improvement with Pac-12 officiating.

At least the conference acknowledges the possibility that officiating mistakes are something to be concerned about, which is a helluva lot more than you heard in the days of the immortal Verle Sorgen.

Progress of a sorts, although small comfort to Wisconsin.

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21 responses to “This is how you measure improvement with Pac-12 officiating.

  1. tludlam

    A lesson I hope we learned in the first OT against Mich St in the bowl game and on display this weekend in Tempe is that the football gods no likey taking knee to center football for game-winning FG.

  2. Chuck

    I watched it live and thought Wisconsin’s plan was faulty. I am not sure the ball could have been spotted, get the kicking team in and get the kick off in 18 seconds. It wasn’t clear to me that he took a knee, but that might have been camera angle. Better plan is to spike the ball, stop the clock and then get calmly (relatively so) set up for an unhurried kick. The center of the field is nice, but not as nice as having time to get off a decent kick. Maybe the refs should have stopped it, but woe to he that strategizes around a ref making a call.

    • Hackerdog

      The kneel down occurred on first down. Given the fact that no Wisconsin players made a move to get off the field, I think the plan was to center the ball on first down, spike it on second down to stop the clock, and kick it on third as time expired.

      • David K

        Yep. Spike on 2nd down and you have plenty of time to bring in the kicking team.

        • gastr1

          Right. The plan was risky but should have worked. They’d have spiked it with 8-10 seconds left but for the officials screwing up. The thing is, is the officials missed the knee-down by the QB and thought it was a fumble, they should have stopped the clock then. It would have been reviewed and overturned.

          If they were confused. they should have stopped the clock after ASU laid on the ball and discussed what happened.

          If they saw the kneel-down, they should have stopped the clock and given a delay penalty to the ASU defender.

          There’s was no scenario in that situation where they should have let the clock run out on a clearly dead ball like that.

          • Puffdawg

            There was clearly a whistle blown when he “knelt,” whether his knee actually hit the ground or not. Once the whistle was blown, which is clear in the video, the play was dead. The QB screwed up by appealing to the back judge for some stupid reason, but the spotting ref is really the one to blame here. The really should have thrown a delay of game penalty on Arizona St. There was no question of it being a fumble because the play had already been blown dead.

  3. Always Someone Else's Fault

    Refs blew it. Yes, Wisconsin could have altered their execution in anticipation of the officials being brain dead, but that hardly seems a reasonable standard. The refs’ job here was to spot the ball and signal it ready for play. The most basic job you can do as an official. I think a team has right to expect that part of the plan to go off without a hitch.

    • David K

      The refs did blow it but the Wisconsing QB did himself no favors by just setting the ball on the ground. You can’t blame the AZ State guys for thinking it could be a fumble and jumping on it. However, the refs should have stopped the clock once they realized what was happening.

  4. Dog in Fla

    “taken additional sanctions” for Todd Graham’s instant #karma for Badgers

    http://www.rightentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Jen-Bielema-pig-snout.png

  5. tludlam

    The refs screwed up, but with no timeouts, you don’t tempt fate with 18 seconds. On top of that, Wisconsin’s nonchalance seemed to contagiously rub off onto the umpire, who took his sweet time unpiling the ASU players from on top of the ball. The camera angle from behind the offense definitely shows the QB’s knee down, but instead of putting it down, he should have handed the ball to the umpire, in a frenzy getting his team back lined up, particularly with the new 3-second no-spike rule.

  6. Mayor of Dawgtown

    At least the PAC-12 acknowledges that “officiating mistakes are something to be concerned about.” When did we ever get that out of the SEC? When AJ Green was erroneously flagged for a non-existent celebration penalty, the SEC office “acknowledged” that the call was bogus but did nothing. That BS call cost UGA the game. At least the PAC-12 incident didn’t cost Oregon State the win.

    • uglydawg

      Noonan, I remember that play very well. What seems to be overlooked is that Auburns left guard and tackle moved way before the ball was snapped anyway…so the refs really were goofy..there should have been a false start penalty which would have given AU the ball at the 6 with a few seconds left. It was a good night to be a Dawg fan! I still remember Munson’s call..it was a classic.

      • Noonan

        I remember listening to the Munson broadcast live. This video is awesome on multiple levels. Aubies were ready to lynch some referees.

  7. Ed Kilgore

    Best (worst) part of the whole mess was the zebras stampeding towards locker room after about two seconds of discussion with Wisconsin staff. Didn’t bother to explain it to the crowd at all. It’s not like they were going to be threatened with violence by shocked-happy ASU home crowd, which probably thought game was lost when Bucky got first down in chip-shot range.

    • uglydawg

      It was against ASU in Tempe that Georgia was called for a “jumping” penalty on an ASU field goal attempt…(just a few years ago). Never seen it called before or since…but they called Georgia for jumping up and down at the los.

  8. Hobnail_Boot

    This is on the Wisconsin coaches and QB, not on the refs.

  9. kckd

    Bottom line is that the refs don’t hurry to get things ready at no time but at the end of the game. Wisconsin didn’t have timeouts. Not saying the refs couldn’t have done better, but Wisconsin should’ve just kicked the ball from where it was at. Stupid on their coaches part IMO. It wasn’t that difficult of an angle.

  10. Nashville West

    Saw the game. Replay showed that Wisconsin stepped out of bounds on earlier play on the 35 but the ball was placed inside the 20, bad reffing went in both directions on the last drive.

    • tludlam

      I watched the replay of that play (the whole game is still available on watchespn). From my view, I think he probably stepped out, but the video was not indisputable to overturn the call on the field. The camera angle could have been very deceptive. It was reviewed and the play stood as called. Close call, but I wouldn’t call it bad reffing. The ref was in position directly in line with the sideline and had the best view of it. I have to believe he was looking at the runner’s feet because he missed a (probably incidental) facemask occuring at the same instant as the questionable step(s) at the boundary. Plus, who is to say Wisconsin wouldn’t have made it into field goal range even if he had been ruled out of bounds at the 38? There was still over a minute left on the clock. Bottom line, Wisconsin got jobbed but they voluntarily gave the refs the opportunity to job them. To steal from Spencer Hall, the refs killed Wisconsin’s chances but the Badgers handed the refs the gun with a smile.