Everyone’s a winner, baby.

Tell me, is there any money in claiming old national championships?  Because I’d hate to think Auburn’s flirting with national ridicule simply to try to keep up with Alabama’s example.

Jacobs said the consensus from Auburn fans so far is “pretty strong” that the university should retroactively count past championships.

Alabama, the bitter in-state rival of Auburn, has questionably counted national titles for years. Alabama claims 15 national championships, but counted only six until the mid-1980s.

One of the titles claimed by Alabama is from 1941, when the Crimson Tide lost two games and undefeated Minnesota was widely recognized the consensus champion. Alabama had a final AP ranking of No. 20 and finished third in the SEC. Alabama claims 1941 because it was No. 1 in the Houlgate System, a mathematical rating from 1927 to 1958 that ran in syndicated newspapers.

How truly silly is this? This silly:

For instance, the National Championship Foundation recognizes Auburn as a national champion in 1993 (when the Tigers were on NCAA probation and served a postseason ban) with Florida State, Notre Dame and Nebraska. Florida State is widely considered the only national champion in 1993.

The National Championship Foundation was created in 1980 by Mike Riter of Hudson, N.Y., to retroactively count pre-1980 national titles. The foundation also started naming champions in current time.

So, like I asked, is there any money in this?  ‘Cause I’m wondering if we’re underutilizing the Mumme Poll.  I can be as open for business as the next Mike Riter of Hudson, N.Y.

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14 responses to “Everyone’s a winner, baby.

  1. Go Dawgs!

    I’m not the first to point it out, but the idea of Auburn claiming a championship in 2004 because the recognized champion was ineligible while simultaneously claiming a championship in 1993 while THEY were ineligible is simply delicious.

  2. Beer Money

    Are they going to go back and have parades for all these championships?

    I would both embarrassed and shamed if UGA ever pulled a stunt like this.

    • GaskillDawg

      We sort of do and sort of don’t. We recognize 1980 and 1942 as consensus national champions. We also recognize a few teams, (off the top of my head, 1927, 1946, 1968) that got ranked number 1 in some final poll recognized as a championship poll by the NCAA, but we don’t proclaim those teams as “National Champions.”

      That seems to me to be a fair balance. We acknowledge what the NCAA acknowledges; some poll recognized by the NCAA ranked us number 1, but we don’t try to call ourselves national champions in years we were not consensus champions.

      • Mayor

        Well, I recognize Georgia as the 2007 National Champion because: (1) The Dawgs were the consensus best team in the country, particularly at the end; (2) The Dawgs beat the crap (literally) out of an undefeated and untied Hawaii team in the Sugar Bowl; and (3) The Dawgs beat the alleged 2007 BCSNC LSU by 2 TDs in 2008 thereby proving IMHO that if Georgia had been given the chance to play them in the 2007 SECCG the Dawgs would have soundly kicked their collective asses.

        • Gaskilldawg

          That is your right. I don’t refer to the 2007 team as a national champion because no poll put us number one. I do, though, believe we were the best team in the country by the end of the season.

          Our AA doesn’t take your post and hang a 2007 NC banner at Sanford because the Mayor at GTP declared us 2007 NC as Auburn, Tech and Alabama would .

      • Beer Money

        Yet none of those seasons were riddled with probation like that ’93 AU team was.

        • Gaskilldawg

          I don’t know why you used the word “yet.” You are correct that UGA was not on probation the two seasons we claim as NC seasons, 1942 and 1980, or the seasons that we do not claim NCs but some poll recognized by the NCAA ranked us number one.

      • Go Dawgs!

        You’ll see National Championship flags flying above Sanford Stadium for 1980 and 1942. That’s it.

  3. CannonDawg

    The closer Auburn gets to Alabama in NCs, the more iconic trees (or such) they will lose. Everything has its cost.

  4. Cojones

    Tuberville took himself out of contention for anything retroactive pertaining to FSU when he paid a million dollars NOT to play them when he became coach of Auburn. That coach and that school have no shame.

  5. Hobnail_Boot

    We should claim all 11 of ours.

    Hell, Butts-Mehre claims SEC East titles in years we tied, like 2006. That’s worse.

    • Dawg19

      I am guessing you meant 2007. We weren’t even close in 2006.

      • Hobnail_Boot

        I think I meant 2004. You’re right.. ’06 was the JT3/Stafford/Cox//Stafford year. What a mess that was.