Back handed compliment of the day

This one liner should get Tech fans’ panties in a wad.

In discussing Georgia Tech’s “grand experiment” to see if there’s still a place for the option attack in D-1 football, CFN notes

If this works, it could be the new-old movement for mid-range programs looking to improve.

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105 responses to “Back handed compliment of the day

  1. Kit

    Mid-range is generous. When you’re denying App. State the opportunity to come in and play, you’re really pushing that “mid-range” status.

    Their status is like a formula:

    New coach + “to hell with Georgia” = Hype

    Even in your best year, you were still mediocre + Calvin Johnson is never coming back = Reality

    “Bring on Georgia” – “No thank you App State” = Sad

    (Hype/Reality) + Sad = Georgia Tech.

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  2. Seriously

    Why do mutt fans expend so much energy toward putting down a program while perpetually claiming to be so far above it? Is it insecurity? Envy? Do you all have such small and delicate egos that you must play the part of a bully to assure yourselves? Or, could it be that GT scares you as the football games are typically a lot closer than you would like considering the disparity of player quality between the two teams?

    Personally, I think you’re all suffering from small-penis syndrome. If not, you’re definitely acting like that’s the problem.

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  3. Chuck

    Well, Seriously, it’s pretty simple to understand.

    Tech fans like you talk smack on a regular basis in a hit-and-run style. Grasping at straws about academics, Calvin Johnson, close games, UGA players’ scooter violations, recruiting disadvantages, the bias of the AJC, the red necks of UGA fans, the fast food jobs we will be lucky to be hired to by our Tech overlords–in short, Tech fans refuse to just shut up and be losers when they lose.

    So, since we are so clearly inferior in intellect, career, class, and character, we simply must have your uncompromising acceptance that we completely and totally outclass Tech’s football team every year for the past 7 years both head to head and in terms of body of work.

    Oh yeah, national championship in 1990. Saved you the trouble.

    We pay you attention because of your vitriolic, whiny, and incessant request that we do so. Your comment on a UGA blog, for example.

    Enjoy your day. Fries should be cooked now, I’ve got to go tend to them.

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  4. Seriously

    Chuck, thanks for the clarification. BTW, I don’t need any ketchup with my fries, so you can save those for your dinner (and you’re welcome!).

    In all honesty, I don’t know any GT fans who feel any sense of mastery over UGA football in the last seven years or really anytime prior to that other than individual victories, so vitriolic expressions are fairly pointless in my view. Not sure why you guys would give them any more credence than I do.

    I’m generally expecting that this will be the year of the dawg and UGA will win the BCS title. Perhaps, then and only then, you guys can relax, unclench, and start feeling a little less inferior. Let the healing begin!

    FWIW, I ended up on this page because it was linked within a good college football blog (i.e. not one that has an “insult of the day page”) and I was curious to see what goes on in these schlock-of-the-web sites. My visit and your response confirmed for me what I already believed to be true: you mutt fans are truly obsessed with GT.

    That should do it – my drive-by assault is done. Feel free to return to your deep-fat fryer, perfecting your mullet, polishing the gun rack in your 4×4 pickup with rebel flag decal, and Yosemite Sam “Back Off” mud flaps, rage on about what a “great” (sic) quarterback Matt Stafford is (even though his stats are only marginally better than Reggie Ball’s), finish installing the tornado tie-downs on your mobile homes, turn on the TV and enjoy watching your relatives on Jerry Springer, and feel the relief of knowing that football season is only five and a half months away and your reason to live is once again renewed!

    BTW, My lawn guy is a UGA alum. I pay him $250 a month and he does an EXCELLENT job!

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  5. Seriously

    BTW, Kit, I LOVE those little math formulas of yours! Is that what you learned in Athens? It certainly explains a lot.

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  6. Richt-Flair

    The Tech blog entry was three sentences and a link. “Seriously” is working on an essay. Who has the inferiority complex?

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  7. Kit

    Thanks! I worked those out just for you. I don’t have another one for you right now, but I would like to comment on your “Matt Stafford’s stats are only marginally better than Reggie Ball’s” blurb that you just threw out there.

    The only, and I mean “TEH ONLY SINGLE THING IN TEH WHOLE UNIVERSE !!11!!1!!11!!1” you can say Matt Stafford and Reggie Ball have in common is that they both throw to UGA receivers.

    Seriously, Mr. Seriously, that’s it.

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  8. Chuck

    @Richt-Flair: Is there an engineering/mathematics/gaming analogy we can use to explain irony to our visitor?

    @Seriously: It’s like that time when you called out your teacher for getting the answer wrong in calculus class, but as it turned out, you were the one who was wrong.

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  9. Chuck

    Well, Kit, Stafford has lost 4 games as a UGA starter, and Reginald lost 4 games to UGA. That’s another parallel.

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  10. Seriously

    Ooh, thanks for the formulae, Kit! I wouldn’t have imagined that you are clairvoyant and posted those for me before I ever came – very impressive!

    For your edification and education, here are some of Stafford’s (2007) and Ball’s (2006) stats (the last available):

    Completion Percentage
    Stafford 55.7
    Ball 44.4

    Yards/Attempt
    Stafford 7.3
    Ball 6.0

    Interceptions
    Stafford 10
    Ball 14

    Overall Rating
    Stafford 128.92
    Ball 107.20

    Passing Yardage
    Stafford 194.1
    Ball 140.0

    Total Yardage
    Stafford 2505
    Ball 2174

    I stand by my comment: Stafford is marginally better than Ball. If you REALLY want to be depresssed, go look at the stats of a REAL quarterback, like Tebow. Really, folks – Stafford didn’t even make the statistical top 50 of QBs in 2007, so get real! UGA will probably win the BCS title this year and the credit goes to Moreno, the defense, and the o-line. Stafford is terrible. (Having watched Ball play for 4 years, I know where of I speak.)

    BTW, I’m not obsessed – I just enjoy a good argument!

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  11. Seriously

    …almost forgot

    Touchdowns
    Stafford 19
    Ball 20

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  12. Chuck

    Yes, Stafford is better than Ball ever was by a wide margin if that’s what you mean by marginally.

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  13. Seriously

    Chuck, clearly you weren’t a math major. On the other hand, you graduated from UGA (I presume) so maybe you were a math major.

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  14. Chuck

    So Stafford completed over 10% more of his passes as a sophomore than Ball did as a senior throwing to one of the best college WRs in recent history.

    If you don’t think 10% constitutes a significant difference, I will personally refinance your mortgage for you.

    Batting .400 must only be marginally better than batting .300, right?

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  15. Seriously

    Chuck, with a solid offensive line protecting him and more than one good receiver to catch the ball, with all the hype that has surrounded him since early in his recruitment, being much taller with better arm strength and significantly better physical strength and stature, with a much better coach and significantly better offensive philosophy, with all these advantages in his favor – no, I don’t think 10% constitutes a significant difference in completion percentage.

    Ball had Calvin Johnson and NONE of the other advantages that Stafford has. The moron didn’t even throw the ball to CJ very much, so 10% is a pittance in comparison.

    You can make the check payable to Wells-Fargo.

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  16. UgaMatt

    Seriously,

    Seriously, you’re an idiot. Stafford is as marginally better than Reggie as UGA’s program is marginally better than Tech’s program. The sad thing is, you and the other Tech fans probably think that’s about right and don’t see the irony in just how large of a chasm that really is.

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  17. Kit

    Here’s what gets me. “Seriously” must be joking if he wants to take Stafford’s second year of experience and compare it to all of Reggie’s last year of four years of starting experience.

    Hell, even when he did, Stafford came out better in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY…and even when you look at the entire body of work, he’s almost got Reggie in wins as well.

    Ball currently has 29 wins on his resume as a starting QB in four years of starts (excluding two games…one because he was sick and the other because he was academically ineligible i.e. “he lost count at three”). Stafford is currently well within Reggie’s reach at 17. If UGA runs the table next year (as Seriously has predicted) then Stafford will add 14 extra games to that (12 + SEC Champ + BCS Champ) tying him with Georgia Tech’s winningest QB Shawn Jones at 31.

    Then if he decides to return for his Senior season, he might claim dominance over all Tech QB’s in all categories excluding rushing yards.

    So, Mr. Seriously, to compare Stafford and Ball is essentially worthless until Stafford gets at least another year under his belt. Hell, it’s pretty much ridiculous anyway since Stafford has already beaten most of UGA’s top rivals, with Tennessee being the only one left to go.

    I’m sure The Good Senator is loving this debate (or perhaps “debacle?”), but unfortunately arguing with Seriously is like booing at the Special Olympics. Sure, you can do it, but are you really ever going to accomplish anything?

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  18. Seriously

    Kit, you would have a fair point about comparing Ball’s 4-year “career” (if one can call it that) vs. Stafford’s 2-year, still-in-progress career; however, that’s not what I did. Go back and try ACTUALLY READING my post (if you’re capable) and you may note that I used the “last year” of statistics available. So you can fairly criticize me for comparing a senior to a sophomore (as you did in your first two paragraphs), but the rest of your point is without point.

    UgaMatt, obviously you are one of those small-penis syndrome victims I referred to earlier. Please feel free to turn off your junk mail filter and respond to any of the (doubtless) thousands of invitations to expansion programs you will receive. I don’t know if they will help you, but I’m sure you’ll feel better just for trying!

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  19. Seriously

    I must say it’s funny how predictable you mutts really are. In my second post, I wrote “rage on about what a “great” (sic) quarterback Matt Stafford is (even though his stats are only marginally better than Reggie Ball’s)” and raging is exactly what all of you are doing.

    Okay, I’ll give up un the Reggie Ball vs. Matt Stafford argument for a moment, just so we can compare Stafford’s performance to another sophomore…

    Tim Tebow.

    Anyone? Anyone? Nobody??

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  20. Chuck

    Excuse me, I made a mistake. I said Stafford was 10% better on completion rate. That’s wrong. He’s 10 percentage points better. That’s a vast difference.

    Also roughly 20% better in yards per attempt, 30% better on interceptions, 25% better on yards, and a load better in terms of winning percentage.

    Stafford had no WR like Calvin to throw to, 3 freshmen on the O-line, and was a TRUE SOPHOMORE.

    Talking about Stafford’s superior height and arm strength and offensive philosophy (largely a credit to Stafford’s ability to recognize and check off at the line) as knocks against Stafford is one of the most unusual counterarguments I’ve ever seen.

    You basically are saying that if Stafford were weak, small, and exhibited poor decision-making, he’d be Reggie Ball. Doesn’t that make him a better QB? …as a sophomore?

    Surely you’re not serious.

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  21. Seriously

    C’mon, Chuck – we’re talking about Tebow now. Try and keep up!

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  22. Chuck

    Tebow’s better than Stafford.

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  23. Why do mutt fans expend so much energy toward putting down a program while perpetually claiming to be so far above it?

    Honestly, this post didn’t take any effort at all. 😉

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  24. Seriously

    Well done, Chuck! Admitting the problem is the first step toward recovery!

    That’s very clever Senator, but I really don’t feel in any way put down by your comment, so that was more a waste of energy than an expenditure of energy. (Mission not accomplished)

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  25. SavannahDawg

    Congrats to Seriously. I do the same thing!Sometimes I realize that I put my foot in my mouth so I change the subject too. “I’m gonna go to the UGA blog, call them mutts, and compare their quarterback to Reggie Ball cause, you know, Reggie Ball sucks. Since my stats prove that I am wrong, wrong, wrong, I will compare their QB now to the Heisman Trophy winner, ‘Now what Mutts?”
    Idiot.

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  26. Seriously

    Oh SavannahDawg, what a beautiful world it will be for you if you will only learn to read!

    I switched from Ball to Tebow as a benchmark for Stafford, after admitting that Kit had a fair point (i.e. comparing a senior to a sophomore was not a fair comparison). I never conceded my comparison of Ball to Stafford and stand by it.

    It seems my assertion that Stafford is “marginally better” than Ball got all the mutts to reach for their dictionaries so they could find the definition of marginally. In fairness, the word is open to interpretation and we could argue ad infinitum over how much better Stafford is than Ball, but what’s the point? Ball sucks (or sucked, if you prefer). Claiming that Stafford is better than Ball – marginally or otherwise – is akin to claiming you smell better than a skunk.

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  27. SavannahDawg

    I will get right on that reading thing…
    But even if I do reach a level of reading comprehension “marginally” comparable to yours, should I go on Tech blogs/message boards and make ridiculous arguments for the sake of arguing(off the intial topic of course)? I do wish Tech the best of luck this upcoming season and do look forward to watching the triple option in BCS conference football. I do want to kick your a** in November but I will be rooting for you otherwise.

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  28. Seriously

    SavannahDawg, I can’t imagine any reason why you should be any different than all the other mutts who contribute non sequitur comments on GT fan sites, so please feel free!

    Regarding your other comments, I’m also looking forward to UGA having a great season. It’s a pleasure to watch Moreno run the ball and UGA’s defense is terrifying for all us fans of opposing teams. (In all seriousness, I saw Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, and Emmit Smith play, and for a freshman, Moreno looks better than all of them.) Sorry, but I can’t extend similar complements for your QB.

    As a Gators and SEC fan, I hope the mutts represent!

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  29. Dawg 05

    Why is it that every Tech fan has to live vicariously through Florida? Penis envy?

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  30. Chuck

    Irony 2.0: Seriously accuses Kit of failing to read a response because Seriously has misread Kit’s response.

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  31. Seriously

    Dawg 05, I grew up in Florida, both of my sisters and my father are UF grads, and I’ve been a Gators fan since long before I’d even heard of Georgia Tech. The only thing of “yours” I envy is Moreno. And by the way, genious – penis envy is something women have, not men. You’re not even smart enough to be a mutt.

    Chuck, that’s a brilliant reply. Too bad you didn’t (couldn’t, can’t) mention how I misread Kit’s response as clearly I didn’t. Irony 3.0, I bet you can’t define irony without looking it up.

    You mutts amaze me! You can’t take a joke OR a complement! I was going to stop coming here, but I guess I’ll just have to keep coming back in the hopes of educating all of you.

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  32. Chuck

    Kit: “Here’s what gets me. “Seriously” must be joking if he wants to take Stafford’s second year of experience and compare it to all of Reggie’s last year of four years of starting experience.”

    Seriously: “Go back and try ACTUALLY READING my post (if you’re capable) and you may note that I used the “last year” of statistics available.”

    Kit: “…Reggie’s LAST YEAR OF FOUR YEARS of starting experience.”

    Seems like he noted it just fine.

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  33. Richt-Flair

    And thus the Seriously inferiority essay continues…

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  34. Will

    Senator at 5:45

    +1

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  35. UgaMatt

    Seriously,

    I have two degrees from UGA and an MBA from Mercer, we can intellectually measure penises whenever you want to big boy.

    As for the Tebow v. Stafford comparison, I’ll take a shot. How about 11-2 v. 9-4 and 42-30? Yes, I know Tebow puts up otherworldly stats, but I also know that Urbs puts Tebow in a position to pad those stats quite a bit, i.e. the SC game where baby Jesus had 5 rushing touchdowns of about a 2 yds. a piece. Where about 90% of other programs in the country would have given the ball to a FB or TB, Urbs lets Tebow pound it in and the ESPN guys collectively orgasm. Bottom line, I wouldn’t trade Stafford for Tebow. Hell, I wouldn’t trade any player on UF’s team not named Percy Harvin for the UGA player at that position.

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  36. Seriously

    Hi Chucky, nice try! Cherry-picking at its finest!

    From my post…

    “So you can fairly criticize me for comparing a senior to a sophomore (as you did in your first two paragraphs), but the rest of your point is without point.”

    (Note, you clipped from Kit’s FIRST paragraph, so YOU need to try ACTUALLY READING MY POST.)

    Glad to hear you’re in the mortgage business as you’d be a lousy cop or attorney. Doubt you’d ever win a case, if you were. On the other hand, it’s a tough time to be in the mortgage business, so maybe you will be slinging fries soon. Or maybe you’re part of the mortgage crisis and will end up in prison? Oh well, prisoners eat french fries too.

    BTW, Wells-Fargo called and they’re still waiting on that re-fi check you promised for me.

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  37. Seriously

    Richt-Fart, oh you know me so well! I feel so inferior that I must post truth to a pack of liars. That’s me, that’s SO me!

    Or maybe, could it be that I’m so fed-up with the mutts posting on GT fan sites that I’m extracting my own revenge here (and several other mutt sites too)? Hmm… Could be!

    Again, back to my original point, you guys sure do spend a lot of time putting down something/someone you consider so completely inferior.

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  38. Kit

    Last post I swear…

    Seriously: “I guess I’ll just have to keep coming back in the hopes of educating all of you.”

    Irony 4.0 = On top of not comprehending what I said earlier, Seriously also spelled the following words incorrectly:
    “genious = genius”
    “complement = compliment”

    Technically, “complement” is not spelled incorrectly, but for the purposes of that sentence, it is misused.

    Oh, and for the record (Seriously, it’s on the books, you can look it up) the only thing I need to know about Matt Stafford in comparing him with Tim Tebow is Matt Stafford had 12 wins last season while Tim Tebow only had eight.

    Tim Tebow can run the rock 40 times in a game but if he can’t help the Gators win, then how good of a QB is he really?

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  39. Seriously

    UgaMatt, please don’t bother trying to read me your resume, you just sound pathetic. Two UGA degrees? Why not 10? Why not claim you got those degrees at a decent school instead of a diploma mill? Would that impress me? No, but at least you’d sound a little less pathetic.

    The rest of your post was fairly interesting and actually constitutes the basis for a moderately good debate. The problem is you are trying to change the subject. Yes, UGA’s win record is better than UF’s and if Stafford were the only player on the team that would be a slam-dunk win in the debate. Fact is, win/loss records are a TEAM statistic, not an indiviual one, so your point is a complete red herring.

    Stafford has a better supporting cast surrounding him including an infinitely better defense in 2007. Are you paying attention here, mutts? UGA beat UF in 2007 because of superior defense and Moreno (not sucky Stafford). Gee, with me confessing SO MUCH superiority by their football team, you’d think they’d realize that I don’t have an inferiority complex. (hint, hint!)

    BTW, Urban had Tebow run the ball so much because he didn’t have anyone else worth handing the ball to (other than Harvin when he wasn’t injured). Aren’t you the same clowns that claimed two years ago that Tebow would NEVER be able to run against SEC defenses and then (again) a year ago that Tebow can run, but he CAN’T pass? What will it be next? Tebow will NEVER play in the NFL! Tebow will NEVER make the Hall of Fame! Tebow will NEVER…

    FWIW, I agree with your remark about ESPN. Tebow was the flavor of the week for much of the last two years.

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  40. Seriously

    Hi Kit, thanks for the spelling corrections! Actually, I’m a great speller, but a bad typist, so technically speaking, those were typos – but thanks anyway!

    While we’re on the subject, what the hell was this?

    “TEH ONLY SINGLE THING IN TEH WHOLE UNIVERSE !!11!!1!!11!!1″

    (At least I can manage to spell 3-letter words.)

    Once again, and just for you Kit, wins are a TEAM stat and QB is a position on the team. My congrats to you mutts on winning a lot of games lately and looking very good going into the 2008 season, but that doesn’t prove your QB doesn’t suck.

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  41. Seriously

    Everyone (especially Kit and Chucky), I’m providing the definition of “irony” here as all of you seem to be anxious to use the word and none of you understand its meaning…

    “the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning”

    Please continue to learn!

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  42. UgaMatt

    Seriously,
    Did you graduate from Tech? Or UF? I know it’s more convenient for your anti-UGA agenda to zero in on my “diploma mill” degrees (one of which is in a program rated #2 in the entire freakin’ country only behind Wharton) while glossing over the fact that I also mentioned a graduate degree from another university with a pretty good reputation, but the fact is I’ll put my UGA education up against any other school, both in terms of quality and in value.
    You can try to be a typical Tech elitist all you want, but the truth of the matter is in plenty of academic programs UGA measures up quite favorably with Tech.
    As for Tebow, lets not make it out to be that he was playing with a bunch of scrubs. Last time I checked, Florida’s been doing just fine pulling in quality players, so spare me the “Stafford had a better cast around him” argument. Was UGA’s defense better than Florida’s? Yes. But UGA’s offense torched Florida’s defense unlike anyone else did this year, and all of that credit can’t go to the Dawg defense and Moreno.
    Stafford did have TDs of 84 and 53 yards that day, and despite throwing one mind-numbingly stupid int, still had a MUCH higher QB rating than Tebow. Add to the fact that dropped two hand delivered Tebow interceptions, and anyone who objectively watched that game would realize that Tebow was the second best QB on the field.
    Tebow is a great college QB, but he’s also the product of the ESPN hype machine and an offensive system that lends itself to the QB putting up monster numbers.
    Save the “Florida didn’t have anyone else to run the ball” line. It’s bull. They had plenty of running backs, UM’s system just doesn’t use them. You’re telling me in the 3 years he’s been there UF has NEVER has a SEC caliber RB? I’m not buying that.
    Stafford’s stats aren’t as impressive as Tebow’s, but I don’t know that any other QB’s will be either. Richt’s system(especially now with Bobo) aims for 50/50 balance. In a college game, 50/50 balance would ideally equate to 200/200 pass-rush. The fact of the matter is 200 yds. passing a game isn’t going to wow people, and when you actually have a good RB and for my money the best FB in the nation, the TD’s are going to be spread out. Stafford will be more NFL ready when he comes out and has much more experience managing a game (Stafford has freedom to audible 70% of the time–that’s Peytonesque).
    You can have Tebow and his stats, I’ll take Stafford and his wins.

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  43. Richt-Flair

    Wasn’t this original thread about the triple option and Tech being considered a mid-major program? Seriously, can you not take a step back and see how ridiculous your rants are?

    Gawd, what is it about Tech and the complexes these people have?

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  44. Stafford has a better supporting cast surrounding him including an infinitely better defense in 2007.

    To quote a wise man whom you may be familiar with, “Why is it that during recruiting season they sign all the great players, but when it comes time to play the game, we have all the great players? I don’t understand that. What happens to them?”

    Now that’s irony.

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  45. UgaMatt

    Good point Flair, adios Dawgs, I’m out.

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  46. Seriously

    UgaMatt, not that it’s any of your business, but I did graduate from GT and have two graduate degrees from Rice University, so please put your penis away, you just look stupid. What makes you think for even an instant that I care to witness you reading your resume? It’s just pathetic!

    Your points about the UF/UGA game are POINTLESS! If Stafford and Tebow were the only ones on the field, then it would be a fair comparison. UF’s defense and running game were terrible in 2007 and yes, I am telling you that UF/Stan Drayton (now coaching at UT, thank you very much) never recruited an SEC caliber RB/TB in the last three years. We watched as Spiller went to Clemson and Devine went to WVU (both from Florida). That changes this year as Emanuel Moody transferred from USC and will be eligible this season. And thanks for claiming that Tebow is REALLY a “system” quarterback and that’s the ONLY reason for his “padded” stats. That tired chestnut always makes me laugh!

    Richt-Fart, yeah – my rants are so ridiculous that you simply MUST respond to them. The truth hurts, huh?

    Senator, that’s an interesting point, but the quote you clipped from me was regarding players on the field, not recruiting.

    I can’t believe that all of you seriously proposing that UF and UGA were equally talented in 2007 and UGA beat UF because Stafford is better than Tebow!!! I didn’t realize that hallucinogens are now the inebriant of choice in Athens.

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  47. Seriously

    C’mon, UgaMatt! Please don’t run away with your clipped tail tucked between your legs!

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  48. Seriously, I think you need to read Spurrier’s quote again. How do you think UF’s kids got there?

    BTW – Rice is a terrific school. My dad went there many moons ago (back when they were decent in football – that’s how long ago). He’s still thrilled and amazed about the baseball national championship the Owls won a couple of years ago.

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  49. Dawg 05

    Seriously, maybe I’m calling you a woman. BTW, you didn’t answer my question. Why does every Tech fan have to live vicariously through Florida?

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  50. Seriously

    Senator, I re-read the quote and still don’t see how that relates to my assertion that Stafford had a stronger team surrounding him than Tebow did. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

    Thanks for the kind words regarding Rice. Since I attended Rice as a commuter student (not living on campus) I never really felt a strong sense of being part of the student body. I did attend some sporting events there and was always pleased with the (usually) gracious sportsmanship demonstrated there. Sometimes, the Marching Owl Band (MOB) did get a little ruthless.

    FWIW, the world became a sadder and less interesting place the day Lewis Grizzard died – it was a loss for all of us.

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  51. Richt-Flair

    “Richt-Fart”?

    sigh. This is not going well for you.

    In response to the UF/UGA talent comparison (which is odd that we’re even talking about this considering, again, the original content was about Tech being a mid-major program — i guess that point has been proven)…

    UF was ranked higher going into the season, and ranked higher at the onset of the game. UGA had much better player development throughout 07(especially the O-line, a major concern midway through the season).

    UGA beat UF for a myriad of reasons, as often happens in a team sport. Stafford performed well, Tebow was sacked six times and looked average. What Tebow does the rest of the season doesn’t really concern me.

    And as for Tech … I wonder if Nesbitt wishes he was a backup safety for us rather than running that triple option in the ACC.

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  52. UgaMatt

    Ok, I did say I was out before your response, which I don’t think would qualify as running away, but what do I know, I went to a diploma mill. I don’t care where you went to school (Tech and Rice are both great); I was trying to fish out whether or not you had a dog in this fight so to speak, since it always humors me that the closest most Tech fans who put down UGA as some low rent trade school got to North Avenue is eating at the Varsity. Sorry if you think I sound pathetic, but the point I was trying to make was that despite what Techies would have you think, a UGA degree is something to be proud of and the elitist attitude of Tech people is really unfounded. Guess something got lost in my delivery there; maybe I should have switched into binary code: 00111011010uga good school good football 01011010101101 tech good school bad football 01101010101 tebow good not as good as espn wishes 01101010110101010 stafford good not as good as promised yet winner huge upside 01010101101010. Ok, that’s more to the point.

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  53. Seriously

    Dawg 05, first you must be looking in your own pants if you’re calling someone a woman. Second, I don’t live vicariously through anyone or anything. I’ve been a Gator fan since age 5. Either you aren’t reading my posts or your analytical skills are very poor.

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  54. Seriously

    Richt-Fart, it’s all going well – thanks very much! Are you really so narrow and single-minded that you can’t permit a topic to drift from “mid-major”? Also do you really think you can insult me with this crap? Why on earth would I care what you think? I’m astonished that any of you care what I think! Talk about insecurity! Are you really using the pre-season and pre-game rankings for the game as a defense of your position? That’s REALLY weak!

    UgaMatt, dude! You promised! Well anyway, you SHOULD be proud of your degrees (and no, I’m not joking about that). Personally, I believe an education is what you make of it and I’ve known some idiots who graduated from Georgia Tech and Rice as well as some very bright people who didn’t finish community college. On the other hand, you shouldn’t start reading your resume to people, especially when you’re doing it to bolster a weak position. No need to fluff your feathers out, just have a stronger argument or admit that you’re wrong. I did like the balance of your post and agree with ALL of your points. Nice touch with the binary, too!

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  55. Richt-Flair

    Just to clarify, when evaluating the talent of a team, preseason and midseason polls, as well as recruiting rankings, are considered “weak,” points.

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  56. Senator, I re-read the quote and still don’t see how that relates to my assertion that Stafford had a stronger team surrounding him than Tebow did. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

    In the early 90’s, it was Georgia with the higher ranked recruiting classes but Spurrier with the better players. Hence, the quote (one of my favorites from SOS).

    For the last five years, all we’ve heard about is what a pair of outstanding recruiters Florida has been blessed with in the Zooker and Meyer, and all of those #1 classes… and now you tell us that Stafford has the “better surrounding cast”. What happened?

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  57. UgaMatt

    Ok….

    Is that what you learned in Athens? It certainly explains a lot.

    Chuck, clearly you weren’t a math major. On the other hand, you graduated from UGA (I presume) so maybe you were a math major.

    Irony 3.0, I bet you can’t define irony without looking it up.

    I was going to stop coming here, but I guess I’ll just have to keep coming back in the hopes of educating all of you.

    On the other hand, it’s a tough time to be in the mortgage business, so maybe you will be slinging fries soon.

    I didn’t realize that hallucinogens are now the inebriant of choice in Athens.

    I had no intention of “reading my resume” to anyone…..hell, I don’t even like reading my resume to myself. I just jumped in to oppose the tired, but obviously not tired enough to go away, Tech argument of “Tech=smart engineers, UGA=dumb rednecks”.

    As for my argument, I thought I made this point, but when I reread, I did a pretty craptastic job at it. I will concede that statistically, Stafford does not measure up to Tebow. But, if you’re going to use just raw stats, then no other QB in college football is going to measure up to Tebow either. I know the whole June Jones/Colt Brennan “system QB” (insert pot calling kettle black joke here) thing rubbed the gator people, but there’s truth to it. Go look at Alex Smith’s numbers, are you going to tell me that that jerkoff is in Tebow or Stafford’s league? Well by the numbers is his, but he doesn’t pass the eyeball test.
    I realize your point about the win/loss record consisting of too many variables, but I’m from the school that it’s a QB’s main job to put his team in a position to win. Ultimately, it’s a eyeball test. The FL games that I watched this year, when Tebow played tough, physically defenses, UGA, Auburn, LSU, he didn’t look any better to me than Stafford did when he ran into tough defenses. If there is a pro-Tebow argument I could make, it would be that against those other defenses, he was a monster. For us in those situations, Moreno or Brown was the beast, but I don’t necessarily interpret that at Stafford being subpar; I think it’s more just him managing the game.

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  58. I just jumped in to oppose the tired, but obviously not tired enough to go away, Tech argument of “Tech=smart engineers, UGA=dumb rednecks”.

    As I posted before, I think this story is an effective rebuttal to that cliché.

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  59. Dawg 05

    Your reading comprehension skills are lacking. Try reading my question one more time. Woman.

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  60. Seriously

    Richt-Flair, well stated! Since I never used team or recruiting rankings at any time in defense of any of my posts, I will presume that you agree with me – thanks!

    Senator, okay – I see where you’re going with that now. Thanks for the explanation. You’re correct that UF has had the higher recruitment rankings in recent years, though I really don’t put a lot of stock into those rankings myself. So many of those highly ranked players (e.g. Willie Williams) are complete busts and others (e.g. Matt Stafford?) never really live up to the hype. Others (e.g. Moreno, Tebow, and Harvin) are every bit as good as their rankings, so it’s hard for me to place much reliance on recruiting rankings. My observations about talent were regarding the talent on the field at game time in Jacksonville in November of 2007.

    UgaMatt, you are coming close to the reality I’m trying to express now. Just to be clear, Tebow looked bad against UGA because the defense was/is scary-good. Stafford had some good plays (i.e. long passes) against UF because their defensive secondary is scary-bad. Head-to-head, the two players seem like apples and oranges to me (Tebow > Stafford) just as the teams did (UGA > UF).

    So my mission here is now accomplished. I usually read/post at a number of other college football blog sites and am accustomed to the usual, preseason woofing coming from Athens. In the run-up to this season, the woofing has been louder and more continuous than I can ever recall. This is understandable, considering how good UGA will be this year, though not justifiable.

    After spending much of the last several evenings reading fans posting the words to UGA’s fight songs, lopsided scores going back for decades, outlandish forecasts for the 2008 season, and lots of other general-purpose obnoxiousness, I decided some payback was in order. The only solution? Pollute the environments of the polluters.

    For the last 24 hours, I have harassed all of you on the one weak point and sore subject you hold so dear: Stafford. Like it or not, he’s the weakest link an on otherwise exceptional team. This is of course beside the point. My intention was to get under your skin, not to impress you with my football knowledge or my psychoanalytical skills. Judging by the bulk of the responses, clearly I succeeded.

    So the next time one of you decides to post something on an open site or fan site dedicated to any school other than UGA, please remember my obnoxiousness here and remember your manners. I’ll be watching.

    If I could impart to you (collevtively) one other piece of advice, it would be this rural wisdom:

    “Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig enjoys it.”

    That’s it, other than to express my thanks to Senator Blutarsky for running a really cool site with the best name I know of. I must move on and pollute other UGA sites now!

    Ta ta (for now),
    –Seriously

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  61. Seriously

    …and Dawg 05, since you consider yourself to be a man and are calling me a woman (as in, “I’m not what you are”), I’ll take that distinction as a complement – thanks!

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  62. Richt-Flair

    Did anyone else get the impression that this guy spends more time talking to himself than actual people? Those were some of the worst arguments I have ever heard. I just feel bad for him.

    “This one liner should get Tech fans’ panties in a wad..”

    Indeed. More than we ever thought possible.

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  63. Chuck

    Anyone else feel upset by Seriously’s attempt at a flame (as he now reconstructs his intentions posthumously)?

    Anyone learned a lesson about manners and online football discussion etiquette? I mostly just have a sense of superiority now.

    If he’s being duplicitous and as cunning as he claims, perhaps his intention was neither to win the argument nor to flame. Why should we take even that at face value?

    In fact, his true desire was to remedy our alleged inferiority complex by losing an argument to each of us in turn. What a master display of teaching. A veritable koan comprised of nerdiness and intentionally insipid rhetoric.

    I think Seriously is probably a 13-year-old son of a sibling of a Tech grad with a management degree.

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  64. Chuck

    Senator, is this a record for comments on a post? This has been the online equivalent of a brutal bull-in-the-ring drill.

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  65. Dawg 05

    I’ll prove Stafford isn’t a good qb by comparing him to the the Heisman Trophy winner. <—- Sarcasm. Ignore the fact that he is the 2nd best qb in the SEC and regarded as a future #1 overall draft pick by Mel Kiper.

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  66. Seriously

    Correction, Dawg 05: Stafford is the 4th best QB in the SEC (and the 56th best in the Bowl Subdivision)…

    http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2007&div=4&rpt=IA_playerpasseff&site=org

    Told you I’d be watching!

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  67. Senator, is this a record for comments on a post? This has been the online equivalent of a brutal bull-in-the-ring drill.

    Yep. This surpasses the comment thread I got from Florida fans in response to one of my Celebration posts.

    And I’ve never posted on a Tech board or blog, so the etiquette lesson is pretty much lost on me.

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  68. Seriously

    When I found that link ranking Stafford 56th of 100 Bowl Subdivision Quarterbacks, I also noticed a trend in UGA’s team statiscal rankings that illustrates my observation about Stafford as the “weakest link an on otherwise exceptional team”:

    Sacks 8
    Sacks Allowed 13
    Total Defense 14
    Net Punting 14
    Rushing Defense 16
    Kickoff Returns 17
    Scoring Defense 18
    Turnover Margin 18
    Punt Returns 26
    Scoring Offense 34
    Tackles for Loss 34(T)
    Pass Efficiency Defense 36
    Pass Defense 36
    Rushing Offense 37
    Passing Efficiency 61
    Total Offense 74
    Passing Offense 83

    Reference:
    http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/ranking_summary/2007000000257.HTML

    Though I’m certain each of you would rather saw your own arm off than agree with me on this or any topic. 🙂

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  69. I’ve already delved into much of that, Seriously. Check out my blog archives.

    BTW, the guy that finished five slots below Stafford in passer rating is getting ready to become a very wealthy man. Kinda makes you wonder why the marginally suckier Reggie “Dog” Ball isn’t reaping the NFL rewards right now, doesn’t it? 😉

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  70. Seriously

    No, I really don’t wonder why Reggie “can’t count” Ball isn’t playing in the NFL and Matt Flynn is projected as a first or second round draft pick. One of them is small and moronic, the other is of prototypical NFL QB size and strength with a good head on his shoulders. However, Flynn is a “project” and won’t start for many years yet in the NFL.

    Boy, it must really hurt to saw your own arm off.

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  71. Seriously

    …’scuse me, I meant Matt Ryan, not Matt Flynn.

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  72. One of them is small and moronic, the other is of prototypical NFL QB size and strength with a good head on his shoulders.

    And the difference between Ball and Stafford is what exactly? 😉

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  73. Seriously

    Again, Senator – I’m not sure exactly what you are trying to say here, but I’ll take a stab at answering your question. Stafford is much larger with much better arm strength, a better coach, and a better offensive scheme (when compared to Ball). With all of these advantages (in addition to his reputation) I might have expected for their to be greater statistical distance between Ball and Stafford.

    So, physically and intellectually, there’s a WORLD of difference between Ball and Stafford. Statistically, not that much different, given the difference in their potential.

    Please understand, I’m not trolling here – just trying to answer the question.

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  74. I’m just curious why Stafford’s stats seem so significant to you.

    I can’t imagine there’s a Tech fan so deluded that he wouldn’t take Stafford over Ball, marginal differences in stats or not, as a starter seven days a week and twice on Saturday. And I don’t find you deluded.

    So what’s the point to the exercise?

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  75. Seriously

    Stafford’s stats are significant to me because I’m defending my position that he’s the weak link on an otherwise outstanding team. Most of your readers are hell-bent on disagreeing with me on this topic, so I’m merely representing my beliefs with facts. That’s the point of the exercise.

    Sure, I would have traded Ball for Stafford, deluded or not. However, at least one of your readers has stated they wouldn’t trade Stafford for Tebow. Let me see, the 56th best QB in the country in exchange for the 2nd best?

    Nope, not gonna do it.

    I’m not calling names here, but NOW who’s deluded?

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  76. Chuck

    What was Colt Brennan’s ranking on that list?

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  77. Seriously

    Chuck, that’s an interesting point because it brings to light that Brennan truly was a “system” quarterback and Tebow is not. These team stats show clearly which team employs an unbalanced offensive approach:

    Florida
    Rushing Offense 23
    Passing Offense 38
    Total Offense 14
    Scoring Offense 3

    Hawaii
    Rushing Offense 116
    Passing Offense 2
    Total Offense 3
    Scoring Offense 1

    I’m sure that’s not why you raised Brennan’s name, as the intention was to build Stafford up since UGA beat Hawaii. So tell me, does Stafford play on the defense too? Obviously, Stafford had a hand in rolling up all those points, but I don’t remember him shutting down Brennan in the defensive backfield.

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  78. Richt-Flair

    Seriously sounds a lot like Ben Stiller’s character in Dodgeball:
    White Goodman: I know you. You know you. And I know you know that I know you.

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  79. … that’s an interesting point because it brings to light that Brennan truly was a “system” quarterback and Tebow is not. These team stats show clearly which team employs an unbalanced offensive approach…

    Who came up with that rule? I can think of any number of offensive guys that have systems that generate balanced stats. Starting with what the Evil Genius did in Gainesville, for one…

    BTW, I thought Jones’ statement about Tebow was idiotic.

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  80. Seriously

    Richt, that’s a good one! Didn’t know you were a cinema fan. I’ve never seen these films, but I’m told if you like “Dodgeball” you’re sure to enjoy “Ernest Goes to Camp” as well. Enjoy!

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  81. Seriously

    Senator, good point. The definition of “system” as applied to QBs and offenses is another “religious” debate in my book, much like the degree to which the word “marginally” conveys a statistical difference – they both could be debated infinitely.

    This is strictly my opinion, so I’m sure you all will enjoy p***ing all over this, but an offense as balanced as what SOS and Meyer try to produce isn’t really a “system” (IMO) as that word has become pejorative speak for an offense that goes hard on one offensive dimension, ignoring the others. I would argue that the offense Paul Johnson is bringing to GT is a “system” in that pejorative sense, but not Spurrier or Myer. Heck, with UGA ranking 37th in rushing offense and 83rd in passing offense, I could even accept that Stafford was a system QB. 🙂

    Before you start flaming me, you might want to read this quote from your overlord, Mark Richt:

    “I’m not sure what a system quarterback is,” Richt said Thursday before his team’s second bowl practice. “I know while at Florida State that I coached Charlie Ward and he played within our system and I coached Chris Weinke within the same system. They are very, very different with how they went about their business.”

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  82. Richt-Flair

    On Senator’s point — I thought Jones’ statement was ridiculous too. Tebow’s a great player, fun to watch, reminds me of the kind of motor that David Pollack had. I really don’t have anything bad to say about him. However, I don’t understand another fan’s infatuation with wanting Dawg fans to say they’d trade for the guy. Our season turned out pretty well with Stafford as our QB. I suppose in this instance, when it’s obvious Tech is a mid-major program and the Ball-Stafford comparison was laid to rest (God, what a stupid debate), this is what we get.
    Anything else? Are we supposed to compare Percy Harvin with Mo Mass now?

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  83. … what SOS and Meyer try to produce isn’t really a “system” (IMO) as that word has become pejorative speak for an offense that goes hard on one offensive dimension, ignoring the others.

    Personally, I’ve always thought that when “system” gets put in scare quotes in this context, it simply means that a quarterback is being coached to operate an offense that varies substantially from your basic pro set.

    Which is why your Richt quote seems out of context, BTW…

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  84. Seriously

    Richt, for someone who dismisses the discussion as a “stupid debate”, you have certainly been a willing participant in the discussion. What does that say about you?

    The rest of your comment is a collection of red herrings. My point (as I’ve expressed NUMEROUS times now – to no avail) is Stafford is the weakest link on an otherwise great team and I’ve been trying to defend this position.

    BTW, you aren’t going to hurt my feelings by repetitively stating “Tech is a mid-major program”. In case you haven’t noticed, I’ve been pretty critical of Tech’s football program in these posts. In fact, the only good thing I can state about GT football is they (finally) fired Chan Gailey. (Would anyone like to debate me on that topic?) So my friend, in the hopes that this topic can be – in your words – “laid to rest”, here is my public service to Mr. Richt-Flair…

    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program
    Georgia Tech is a mid-major football program

    Does that help, Richt?

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  85. Seriously

    Senator, like I stated, I consider this to be a “religious” debate and don’t expect any agreement. The point of including the CMR quote was to convince some of you that the term “system quarterback” is truly open to interpretation as even your beloved coach is “not sure what a system quarterback is”.

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  86. Seriously

    …also Senator, in disagreement with your definition of a “system”, I would note that I’ve never heard anyone refer pejoratively to the wishbone offense (for instance) as a “system” even though it’s vastly different than the pro set.

    Don’t you love a good religious debate? 🙂

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  87. Richt-Flair

    Considering I didn’t specifically reply to the Ball-Stafford argument until my last post (you’ve been all over the map, which I pointed out earlier), it really doesn’t say much about anything.

    As for Stafford being the weakest link, I’m afraid you’ve shown your ignorance. A closer examination of the 2007 would have revealed a number of other Georgia “weaknesses” (most of them corrected by November, which is what good teams do).

    That chalkboard admission is quality. A + effort. Class dismissed.

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  88. Seriously

    Richt, please don’t break your arm while patting yourself on the back – that would be very distressing. I’m afraid you can’t claim any credit for teaching me ANYTHING. I’ve held that belief since long before coming into your kind acquaintance.

    You didn’t enter the debate until the end, so that proves you’re above it? Wow, that’s some fine pretzel-logic, broheme! Actually, you strike me as the passive-aggressive type and I suspect your criticizing a debate while participating in it (i.e. reading it and then commenting on it) is excellent proof.

    Good point about correcting weaknesses in November, though. With the exception of Stafford, I completely agree with you.

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  89. Seriously sure talks about other people’s penises a lot.

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  90. …also Senator, in disagreement with your definition of a “system”, I would note that I’ve never heard anyone refer pejoratively to the wishbone offense (for instance) as a “system” even though it’s vastly different than the pro set.

    I don’t think it’s the “system” per se that gets knocked, Seriously, it’s the QB playing in the “system” that does.

    As for the wishbone being referred to as a “system”, I’ll think you’ll find plenty of folks who’ve done that.

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  91. Richt-Flair

    Certainly not above the debate, seeing as I’ve entered it.

    I’d suggest if you’re going to debate Stafford being the weak link to the 07 season, bring some statistics about how he contributed to any perceived struggles with the team — comparing statistics with Tebow or any other QB is pointless in that argument. The only game where he played relatively poorly past the midway point was the Kentucky game, and we still won that by double digits if I remember correctly.

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  92. UgaMatt

    Jesus Christ, is this still going?

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  93. Chuck

    There are more words from a Tech fan in response to this inoffensive, short post than have ever been written by a UGA fan on a Tech blog or board.

    Furthermore, there are a plethora of threads like this one (http://www.stingtalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
    to be found on every Tech message board.

    I mean, shoot, the story in that thread I linked to is about Paul Johnson and the Tech players being obsessed with UGA.

    Know when the last time I read something about Tech on a UGA site or board that wasn’t just pure schadenfrued? Maybe a few comments about Paul Johnson being a good hire. Otherwise, UGA doesn’t think of Tech much except for a chuckle or to gain perspective on how good we have it or the week of that game.

    Personally, I think you’re all suffering from small-penis syndrome. If not, you’re definitely acting like that’s the problem.

    Riiiiight.

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  94. Seriously

    Senator, please refer back to my post…

    “I’ve never heard anyone refer PEJORATIVELY to the wishbone offense (for instance) as a “system””

    …as in, it’s not a pro set so it must therefore be bad. Yes – I know – the wishbone is a “system”. Thanks for the link, but I already understand Google.

    Richt, I really don’t understand you. I’ve posted LOTS of statistics here and yet you are ignoring those posts, preferring to focus on and complain about the relativistic comparisons to other QBs? Meanwhile you are demanding I “bring some statistics about how he contributed to any perceived struggles with the team” (sorry, I don’t think the NCAA, SEC, or any other soul, living or above, keeps track of that) and simultaneously you’re insulting the debate itself (e.g. “God, what a stupid debate”) while admitting you’re “certainly not above the debate”?

    Is there a name for what’s wrong with you? Is there a foundation where I could make a donation that might help you in some way? Is there research into helping people as confused and confusing as you are?

    Since you obviously find everything I’m writing to be disagreeable, please feel free to not read anything I post – with my compliments! (I wouldn’t want to upset your delicate condition any further.)

    (Shout out to Kit for the spelling correction – thanks!)

    Welcome back, UgaMatt! Jump on in, the water’s fine!

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  95. Seriously

    Aw, c’mon Chuck – that “penis” thing was just a joke. Play along! The only serious comments I’m posting are about the quality of Stafford’s play – the rest is just jabs (admittedly, some of the jabs are in EXTREMELY poor taste – sorry about that – it’s just my sadistic sense of humor).

    Where are all the comebacks about pocket protectors, pasty white skin, never kissed a girl, Star Trek fandom, slide rules/calculators, and all the usual retorts? Is this a bulldawg fan site or a pussycat farm? C’mon guys – BRING IT!!

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  96. Seriously

    BTW, Chuck – just so you’ll know that I did read the substance of your last post, I’m providing the link to the AJC’s Tech Vent:

    http://projects.ajc.com/vent/sports/tech/

    I’ve been reading this heavily moderated bloggette for years – and there are usually more anti-Tech posts from UGA fans than anything else (admittedly, it’s a little low on the negative stuff today). I’ll see if I can find a few more for your benefit.

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  97. Richt-Flair

    Jesus, this is like an itch you have to scratch…

    Seriously, you take a blog topic on Tech’s triple option and use it to argue about Reggie Ball vs. Stafford, Tebow vs. Stafford, Florida vs. Georgia in talent, and now you’re saying I’m confused? Nice.

    Saying Stafford is a weak link by pointing to overall NCAA stat rankings that includes WAC, Mid-Majors and Sun Belt teams instead of rating him on things such as drive charts, TO ratio, rush-to-pass ratio, and above all, WINS, is a piss poor way to make an argument – especially with Georgia’s offense. By your logic, Verron Haynes would have been considered a weak link in 2001 for Georgia because he didn’t produce huge stats as a whole. Or David Greene in 03 and 04 (yet he’s the winningest QB in NCAA history).

    Meanwhile, Florida was less talented in 07, apparently only because you say so, despite the fact they had 1) higher recruiting classes four consecutive years, maybe more 4) were ranked in the top 10 while UGA was No. 20 coming into that game. By every accepted standard and CFB voter, Florida was considered the more talented team. But UGA was the better team, so we won. It’ll happen again this year too.

    I declared the Ball-Stafford comparison stupid. I stand by that. It’s like comparing Quincy Carter to Joey Hamilton – everyone knows Hamilton was the better QB. Something about Ball brings out the moron in every Tech fan apparently. You’re not being rational.

    Swing away Seriously. We’re close to the 100 mark, might as well go for it all.

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  98. Seriously

    Wow, Richt – I struck a nerve! I really don’t have a useful response for your most recent “post” (?) as you seem to be quoting back to me things I never stated. In any case, I do hope the doctors can help you. Please put your hospital gown back on and return to your (rubber) room, now.

    I do have a question for all of you other bloggers (besides Richt – I wouldn’t want to upset him more than I already have)…

    What’s this obsession about staying tightly focused upon a narrowly defined topic?

    I know I’m supposed to be just some tech geek in your eyes, but then one might presume that I do know a TINY bit about the internet, including the concept that more traffic, more hits, more comments – these are all good things. I suspect the good Sentor gets this, as he’s the “owner” of the site and yet he has not criticized me for wandering from the originally posted, left-handed complement of the day. Am I left to presume that you would prefer this site just be an insult toward GT and all of you chiming in with brilliant comments like “yep”, “you’re so right”, “that’s funny” or “mid-range is generous”? (Sorry Kit, but I needed an ACTUAL example to complete my point.)

    Wouldn’t the site be better served as an area for the exchange of ideas, be they generous complements, constructive criticism, humorous thoughts, or even reusable insults?

    I sit here anxiously awaiting your response of “no”. 😦

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  99. Seriously

    …and by the way, I know I’m just a tech geek, but I can read the “compliment” and realize that the author did not intend to imply that GT is a mid-major program, but his intent was to convey that if this does work for GT, then mid-major programs will have a roadmap to follow. The wording is ambiguous and can be interpreted either way when taken out of context. Personally, I don’t care. There are mid-major programs that would have beaten the Gailey-coached bugz so I’m fine with calling the GT program mid-major (see my highly repetitive post above).

    Here’s the full quote (i.e. not taken out of context):

    “There was a time when the option offense rules the universe, and then everyone started to switch to pro-style attacks before morphing into the spread. Paul Johnson could show the world that there’s still a place for the option survive and thrive, while showing off that it’s not that all that different from some versions of the spread, at least like Illinois runs it. It’ll be a grand experiment as Johnson, who worked miracles at Navy with no appreciable D-I talent, gets to work with a far better class of athlete. If this works, it could be the new-old movement for mid-range programs looking to improve.”

    (sic, the entire excerpt)

    So please do have a good laugh at the “insult”, but realize that you are (probably intentionally) misunderstanding the author’s intentions.

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  100. Seriously

    Hmm… Still nothing.

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  101. So please do have a good laugh at the “insult”, but realize that you are (probably intentionally) misunderstanding the author’s intentions.

    Eye of the beholder, brother. 😉

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  102. Seriously

    Eye of the beholder, brother.

    Well said, broheme! Please apply that same logic (consistently) to the following statement:

    Matt Stafford is the weakest link on an otherwise excellent UGA football team.

    Several of you have mentioned Mo-Mass and I will add my agreement – he’s excellent. Not at Percy Harvin or Calvin Johnson level, but I would gladly give a scholarship to Mo-Mass (if I had one to give, or a team for that matter). 🙂

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  103. I'm Glad I Didn't Take the Time to Read This

    Good God

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  104. Seriously

    I’m Glad I Didn’t Take the Time to Read This

    Good God

    That’s brilliant!! You (gladly) didn’t take time to read this and yet you feel empowered and compelled to not only comment on it, but to insult it a well! You, my friend, are a perfect metaphor to singularly encompass so much stupidity, ignorance, and arrogance that I will have to quote you universally and in perpetuity.

    With my deepest admiration and appreciation,
    –Seriously

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