Daily Archives: May 28, 2008

SEC coaches vote for early signing period.

It’s an interesting proposal.

The heart of the proposal would allow a recruit who has not made any official visits to any school to sign a national letter of intent with the school of his choice in that 24-hour period, binding him to that school. The rule, along with saving time, money and effort during the contact recruiting period, should also be a cost-efficient recruiting measure as well…

No word on whether this would have any impact on the “Saban Rule”.


UPDATE: The final vote was 9-3.

The three coaches who voted against the early signing day were Arkansas’ Bobby Petrino, Florida’s Urban Meyer and South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier.

“I think recruiting should be done in December, January and February,” Meyer said. “I think it speeds up 17- and 18-year-olds to make a decision that affects the rest of their lives. To squeeze them, to press them, to say you’ve got to get it done now and I just don’t believe in that…”

I guess we know who likes to do some last minute shopping.


UPDATE #2: Tony Barnhart has some thoughts and quotes here.


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If jorts are outlawed, only outlaws will wear jorts.

Just so you know, this is courtesy of a Gator message board.

(h/t triton63 @ DawgPost message board)


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Diet Mountain Dew for the soul

Phil Steele announces the release information for his 2008 College Football Preview:

… The official on sale date at the newsstands for this year’s magazine is June 10th. The magazine is printed out of state but we are scheduled to receive a shipment on May 30th and you can actually purchase the magazine now and get it delivered early. If you call 1-866-918-7711 today, you can purchase the magazine which sells for $8.95 and pay $5 for priority mail and we will ship it out by Monday, June 2nd (will get mailed on Fri, May 30th if possible) and you should receive it in 2 to 3 business days, well before the on sale date. You can also have it sent OVERNIGHT and be the first in the country to receive it.

To answer your question, no, I won’t. But I thought about it.


UPDATE: Orson’s got connections. Damn it.

Here’s Phil’s top 10:

10. Penn State.
9. Georgia
8. USF
7. Missouri
6. West Virginia
5. Clemson
4. USC
3. Oklahoma
2. Ohio State
1. Florida

Clemmins ranked higher than Georgia? Looocee, you got some ‘splaining to do…

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Mid-East trip wrap up

Again, what these guys did was a fantastic gesture.  It’s easy to support the troops with words;  these coaches did a whole lot more.  My hat’s off to them all for this.

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Georgia’s ten most memorable plays of 2007, #6

Georgia vs. Vanderbilt, October 13:

Georgia at 2:00 GA VAN
1st and 10 at GA 7 Knowshon Moreno rush for 3 yards to the Geo 10. 17 17
2nd and 7 at GA 10 Knowshon Moreno rush for 12 yards to the Geo 22 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at GA 22 Matthew Stafford pass complete to Tony Wilson for 27 yards, fumbled at the Geo 49, forced by Reshard Langford, recovered by Tony Wilson at the Geo 49 for a 1ST down, tackled by Reshard Langford.
1st and 10 at GA 49 Knowshon Moreno rush for 6 yards to the Vandy 45.
2nd and 4 at VAN 45 Timeout GEORGIA, clock 01:13.
2nd and 4 at VAN 45 Matthew Stafford pass complete to Tony Wilson for 5 yards to the Vandy 40 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at VAN 40 Knowshon Moreno rush for no gain to the Vandy 40.
2nd and 10 at VAN 40 Knowshon Moreno rush for 5 yards to the Vandy 35.
3rd and 5 at VAN 35 Timeout GEORGIA, clock 00:47.
3rd and 5 at VAN 35 Timeout VANDERBILT, clock 00:47.
3rd and 5 at VAN 35 Matthew Stafford pass complete to Tripp Chandler for 11 yards to the Vandy 24 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at VAN 24 Knowshon Moreno rush for 5 yards to the Vandy 19.
2nd and 5 at VAN 19 Timeout GEORGIA, clock 00:03.
2nd and 5 at VAN 19 Brandon Coutu 37 yard field goal GOOD. 20 17
2nd and 5 at VAN 19 End of 4th Quarter 20 17
2nd and 5 at VAN 19 End of 4th Quarter 20 17

It may have been the most surreal moment of the 2007 season: Brandon Coutu lining up for his first-ever game winning field goal (he’d missed the same opportunity against Alabama a few weeks before) to stop a unheard of six game losing skid to Georgia’s SEC East rivals and avoid back-to-back losses to Vanderbilt.

Not to mention that things were a little shaky on that last drive getting Coutu in place to be the hero.  Tony Wilson’s big catch at midfield was fumbled by the receiver, who had the good fortune of watching the ball bounce right back to him for the recovery.  From there, Georgia was able to drive the ball inside the Vandy 20 before running out of clock and leaving its chances in the hands… ok, foot of Coutu.

He got it done.

(photo courtesy Athens Banner-Herald)

We thought the kick was big because of the bullet that Georgia dodged.  Little did we realize at the time how much the season would change from that point.

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“How many regular season losses is too many?”

Sunday Morning Quarterback is an impassioned proponent of D-1 playoffs, and he has a snarky (but I mean that in a good way) post up about why JoePa is worth defending against those who stand opposed to a playoff.

He scores some effective points against Stoops’ and Alvarez’ defense of the status quo and notes that the argument has begun to narrow down:

It’s the same old things, mostly: notice the old “academics” defense is such a fluffy light canard it’s not even put up to be blown down. Nobody has ever bought that. We’ve moved on to actual issues of competition, for the most part. And it’ll be the same old things over and over again, right up to that point that, as Chris Peterson says, “pressure from the fans and people on the outside” pushes through a “compromise”…

But he’s got a couple of substantive arguments that are worth responses.

First, he makes a strong point based on extensive research about the number of one, two and three loss teams from BCS conferences and where they finished in the final AP polls.

… Every single year of the BCS’ existence has produced between 10 and 16 BCS conference teams with two or fewer losses, excluding Tulanes, Utahs, Boise States and Hawaiis. [Emphasis added.] So, bearing in mind the record of the most recent BCS champion, how many regular season losses is too many?

If you don’t want to parse how such teams achieved their final won-loss marks (and I can see the validity to that approach, believe it or not), that’s an excellent question. And to me, the obvious conclusion to draw from it is that a four team playoff would be as inadequate a solution to the problem as the BCS currently is.

I disagree strongly with SMQ when he writes

… Michigan and Ohio State have met with undefeated records twice in the last 40 years: 1973 and 2006. Since the formation of the BCS, OSU-Michigan in ’06 and OSU-Texas the same year are the only regular season games between #1 and #2 in the AP; Nebraska-Oklahoma was a 2-3 game in 2000 and a 3-2 game in 2001; OU-Texas was 2-3 in 2002. Florida-Florida State was 1-2 in 1996, before the BCS. Most of these are annual rivalry games that would become far more meaningful with a playoff at stake in years both teams are “merely” in the top 10 or 12, which is the case about five times as often as when both teams are at the top of the polls. I’ll take the slightly reduced national impact of the exceedingly rare Armageddon game for the increased importance of a half dozen other big games every year. Elementary: the more teams that are eligible for the championship late in the season, the more meaningful all of those games will be.

Not to put too fine a line on it, but that’s stretching things. To say that rivalry games will become more meaningful because a playoff berth is on the line only makes sense if (a) one or both of the participants are fighting for a spot in the tourney and (b) in ordinary (i.e., non-playoffs) circumstances, these teams would have nothing to play for other than pride.

But if the playoff field is too big (so that the teams qualify regardless of the outcome of the rivalry game) or too small (so that there isn’t a realistic chance of making the postseason for either), it’s hard to see where more meaning is being brought to the table.  And do we really believe that the people that will restructure the brave new postseason are going to hit that sweet spot where they have the size of the field just right?

Again, I’ll ask the question that puts this in context (for me, at least): how much more meaningful can the troika of Florida-Georgia-Tennessee regular season games each year possibly be?

… And why should it matter if Michigan loses to Ohio State if it doesn’t matter when LSU loses to Arkansas, or Kentucky, or Ohio State loses to Illiois, or Florida loses to Auburn, or Oklahoma loses to Kansas State, or Nebraska gets waxed by Colorado, or Florida State loses to N.C. State, etc.? If “every game counts,” then three of the last five BCS championships should be vacated for the unsightly stain(s) on its winner’s ledger.

I understand that he’s responding to Stoops’ ineptly phrased argument with that quote, but he’s wrong here. LSU’s loss to Arky did matter. It’s just that West Virginia’s loss to Pitt mattered as well. None of those losses he mentions occurred in a vacuum. And it’s disingenuous to compare two (hypothetically) undefeated teams facing off in a season ending game to the outcome of a season when none of the contenders were able to emerge unscathed.

Again, I get the fairness argument that those in favor of a playoff raise. What I don’t get is the argument that there’s something inherently superior to the tension a playoff brings to the process of deciding a champion. I won’t argue it’s different that what we have now. I will argue about whether it’s an improvement.

Any way you look at it, there’s a winnowing out process involved.  The issue is what sort of role we want the regular season to play in that process.  If we’re heading towards some sort of “throw all the two loss or better teams out there and let a playoff sort ’em out” approach, that’s an awfully wide net to cast and I don’t see how the regular season won’t suffer as a result.


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“In our heads. Yea, right.”

Please, go back and read the comment thread to this post about the Celebration.

And then read what Urban has to say on the subject.

Florida coach Urban Meyer made sure to point out that his team has more rivals than just Georgia even though the one rivalry game that Gators fans and players figure to circle on the calendar this year is the Nov. 1 game in Jacksonville against the Bulldogs.

Georgia players celebrated excessively in the end zone after Richt instructed them to draw a penalty after the first score in the Bulldogs’ 42-30 win last year.

Meyer said video of the scene will be used with his team.

“It will,” Meyer said. “We can’t concern ourselves with that right now. that’s a big game. We’re playing Hawaii (in the opener) … so we’re not trying to motivate our team through several workouts with Georgia.”

Meyer won’t deny he’s mentioned the celebration this offseason.

“I won’t say that,” Meyer said. “Our focus isn’t that.”

It’s obvious nobody’s thinking about that elephant in the room.


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