Monday morning sampler

A few things to peek at from this weekend and this morning:

  • Dude, where’s my championship game crowd?  A couple of more years of this and the ACC is going to have to start scheduling its CG as some school’s home game to get people to show up.
  • Dan McCarney’s getting an interview and Charlie Strong isn’t?  What’s wrong with this picture?
  • Jan Kemp passed away and the AJ-C reminds us that Hale Almand won’t ever be confused with Clarence Darrow.
  • The Wall Street Journal looks at the dominance of the South over college football.  Nice quote from James Carville about the home folks:  “Half the people in that stadium can’t spell LSU…”
  • The WSJ also takes the time to remind academics that when it comes to coaching salaries, it’s all about supply and demand, baby.
  • One bright spot for Missouri in the Big XII championship game – the Tigers managed to cut Oklahoma’s red zone TD percentage on the season all the way down to 86.25%.
  • The South may fall again:   Next year’s crop of SEC starting quarterbacks looks like a very underwhelming bunch right now (although I’d be shocked if Ryan Mallett isn’t starting at Arky).


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9 responses to “Monday morning sampler

  1. Charlie Strong must have been a member of the American Communist Party at some point in his past. That’s the only reason I can come up with why so many schools seem to go out of their way to avoid mentioning his name on their hiring shortlists year after year. And let’s be honest, some of those schools definitely fall into the “beggars can’t be choosers” category.

    On that note, Dan McCarney? Seriously? This is a guy who was last seen voluntarily resigning from Iowa State after going 4-8. Does that sound like a guy who really still has the fire in his belly for another head-coaching gig?


  2. SRQDawgs15

    You have posted a couple of times recently about the lack of black coaches. I completely disagree with your thought process here. Strong has been interviewed and among the finalists for jobs over the past few years. He’s even been offered jobs and not taken them (apparently these were not good enough job offers for Orson in his piece about the subject). He makes a lot of money at UF and likes it there, his family being from Florida and all. Maybe he wants to stick around another year and take over for Meyer if anything happens there. I think there just aren’t that many qualified minority candidates out there. Why does it matter if someone is black or white? As someone said earlier, where is the outcry for Hispanic coaches or Asian coaches, or whatever? What’s worse is that all the press about this has only resurfaced because some black coaches lost their jobs this year. I ask you this: Take skin color out of the equation and then who got screwed here, Tommy Bowden (7-5 and bowling), Phil Fulmer (5-7), and Tubbs (5-7) or Ty Willingham (0-12, only winless team in the nation), Sly Croom (4-8), and Ron Prince (5-7 after a 4-2 start)? While these white coaches don’t have impressive records, they are better than their black counterparts for the most part. Yet we see very few stories about how they should have kept their jobs as compared to these black coaches. The fact is that there aren’t that many good candidates out there, and the one’s that do exist (Strong, Turner Gill, etc.) aren’t going to jump at just any offer. That also brings up this point: should teams really want to hire Gill or Strong or whoever instead of Mike Leach or Gary Peterson or some of the better white assistant coaches just because of the color of their skin. Racism works both ways, if you hire someone just because they are black you are just as guilty of racism as the guy who didn’t hire based on race. It all boils down to who is out there and who presents their case the best.


  3. Joe

    “As someone said earlier, where is the outcry for Hispanic coaches or Asian coaches, or whatever?”

    SRQ, you have to be joking, right? Are 70% of the players Hispanic or Asian?

    Maybe Charlie Strong does just enjoy being a DC, I do not know. But if he does want jobs and cannot get interviews, there is only one very obvious reason.


  4. SRQ, you’re missing my point. I’m not arguing for a hiring quota; in fact, I’m very much against one.

    I question, though, why it’s much easier for retreads like Mumme or McCarney and coaches with serious baggage like White and Barnett to get interviews than it is for qualified black coaches.

    Tell me the difference, please, between Ed Orgeron’s resume and Rodney Garner’s when Ole Miss hired Coach O to replace Cutcliffe.


  5. In many many seasons we have only once had a good day on offense against Charlie Strong. I hate playing against his defenses. I cannot imagine why he would not be considered for some very good jobs like AU or Clemson. No clue.


  6. SRQDawgs15

    Senator, I understand what you are saying and I don’t know all the answers. I just think there is more to it than racist ADs and school presidents. A lot of it has to do with the make up of the applicants. There just aren’t as many coordinators/coaches looking to fill these vacancies that are black to begin with.

    Joe, my point is that people should be hired based on everything except for skin color. Saying there should be more black coaches is a racist statement in itself. And, as I said in my first post, Strong has gotten interviews and offers in the past. Maybe he is getting passed up now because he turned down offers to stay a coordinator in the past. He is a very good D-coordinator, but he wants a prestigious head coaching job for his 1st one and most people, white or black, don’t get that chance. The outcry for black coaches has come to the forefront again because of other black coaches losing their jobs. I don’t think a black coordinator should be hired on as the head coach at Clemson because a black coach got fired from Washington. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Apparently you think there should be more black coaches (instead of Hispanic, Asian, etc.) because there are so many black players and say the reason there isn’t is obvious. I don’t understand how the abundance of black players at these same institutions fits into the premise that racism is the reason there isn’t more black coaches. The number of black players in NCAA football is greater than the number of white players because those black players are better than their white counterparts. The same goes for the coaches, the white candidates/coaches are better than their black counterparts for the most part. Racial equality and everything associated with it (like MLK’s speeches say) is about being color blind and the best person getting the job. Giving someone a benefit because of race is no less racist than holding someone down because of their race.


  7. SRQ, I don’t think the vast majority of ADs and school presidents are racists – after all, these are the same guys that in many cases don’t have a problem at all interviewing and hiring black basketball head coaches.

    I do think in many cases they’re reluctant to stir the pot when it comes to influential boosters and supporters who may have a problem with a black football head coach, though. And in many other cases, they simply haven’t thought about it because that’s how things have been.


  8. Coastal dawg

    Interesting story in the Times-Union today in which the Gatorbowl committee – the one’s that lost the ACC championship game to Tampa because they couldn’t sell tickets – basically said, “see it wasn’t our fault.”


  9. Ben

    About the ACC Championship game: a friend of mine in the VT marching band pointed out that when the game was originally conceived, the assumption was Florida State and Miami would be playing each other often, and if not, at least one of them would reach the title game most years. Obviously that hasn’t panned out, since only FSU has played, and only once.

    So a possible explanation for the lack of support (this year and last) is that not a lot of VT and BC fans were willing to make the long drive. If FSU or Miami make the game next year the numbers should improve, and moving the game to Charlotte in ’10 will at least make it an easier trip for VT or any of the NC schools.

    Of course, the ACC still sucks; there just may be more to it than that.