Mumme Poll – Week 11

Rank Team Votes (top five)
1 Alabama 306     (306)
2 Florida 306     (297)
3 Cincinnati 306     (237)
4 TCU 305
5 Texas 300
6 Georgia Tech 299
7 Boise State 298
8 Pittsburgh 277
9 Oregon 271
10 LSU 261
11 Ohio State 252
12 Stanford 136
13 Oklahoma State 116
14 Iowa 76
15 Penn State 44
16 Clemson 38
17 Virginia Tech 24
18 Wisconsin 12
19 Oregon State 7
19 Utah 7
21 Rutgers 6
22 Miami 4
22 Southern Cal 4
24 Arizona 3
24 BYU 3

COMMENTS

  • Three teams appeared on every ballot this week.  But only one appeared as a top five pick on every ballot.
  • It’s clear we see a top eleven and then everyone else.  Only one school outside of the first eleven received a top five nod this week (Penn State).
  • About 80% of us completed our ballots in fifteen minutes or less.
  • Bias watch:  Georgia got two votes this week.  But only one was from a partisan!
  • A total of 32 schools got votes.  Of course, two of those went to Ohio instead of Ohio State.  For some reason, that’s been the most regularly occurring glitch of the season.  Watch your dropdown, Buckeye voters.

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21 responses to “Mumme Poll – Week 11

  1. KingDawg

    I just don’t get the votes for Ohio State. They lost to Purdue, a sub-.500 team, and lost to USC at home. USC has been blown out twice and once by a team ranked below Ohio State. How those two losses coupled with a lack of quality wins justify a ranking that high is perplexing. I can see a top 25 ranking but not a clear cut top 12 team. It seems like voters may have said we’ve got to have a Big 11 team in the top 12 so we’ll give them the nod.

    Do people really think OSU would have fared better than VT, Clemson, Miami, Oklahoma State, and Stanford had they played their schedules?

    Also, the Pitt ranking is ridiculous. Another top 25 team maybe but their best win is over marginal top 30 team South Florida and includes a loss to a likely 4-8 N.C. State team. The lack of quality wins coupled with a very ugly loss should not justify a top 10 or 12 ranking.

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    • ArchDawg

      I put Ohio State at a tenuous 12th spot on my ballot. I didn’t really want to, but they at least are conference champions. It’s the weakest of the BCS champions to be sure, this season, but it’s something.

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  2. Ausdawg85

    Some sanity returns to even to the oddball votes, but for the record, let’s pick on a few:
    Penn St in the top 5?! Todd Blackledge, please stuff it.

    Texas not in your Top 5? I hate the horns…the fanbase here is insufferable. But this is a loaded team. Please tinker with your computer program some more, then throw it away if it still can’t see this is a team full of talent even if they have not really been tested.

    TCU not it your Top 5? (see above…they may be better than the Horns when you factor in intangibles)

    Cincy at #3 is actually a little surprising, but clearly due to a couple of omissions from above. Folks must like 5-way chili.

    I would still like to see “None of the Above” a choice for the 12th pick.

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    • It is actually pretty easy to NOT put Texas in the top 5.

      Alabama, Florida, Cincinatti, TCU could easily be your top 4. Then someone only has to believe 1 other team is better than Texas, and there you have it.

      Texas has played nobody this year, and rarely looked good even then.

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      • By the way, I am feeling pretty vindicated that I refused to have Iowa in my top 12 all year.

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      • allhailcale

        It’s difficult to punish Texas for “playing nobody.” Who would have predicted that Texas Tech and (especially) Oklahoma would have fallen so far this season. There’s two sides to every coin. When Ausdawg says they “haven’t been tested,” is he completely discounting these two opponents? Also, if someone plays a close game, they didn’t win impressively. But if they blow someone out, like say, a UCF team that just beat Houston, then they haven’t been tested? You can’t have things both ways, O viewers from the cheap seats.

        I wonder if you guys also thought that Vince’s 2005 squad that averaged over 30ppg margin of victory had “never been tested.” What the hell does that mean anyways?

        “Played nobody,” “haven’t won impressively,” and “haven’t been tested,” are the most incredibly lame measuring sticks one could possibly use in deciding for one’s self which team is better than another.

        Personally, I’d rather vote for a team based on what they have done than hold one back based on what they haven’t. Just my $.02…..

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        • Who said anything about punishing? They haven’t played anyone, so you can’t really see if they are better than they appear.

          Whereas the other 4 teams HAVE impressed, and it is easy to see how some other teams have impressed against good teams as well.

          It isn’t a punishment to make an honest evaluation of what you have actually seen in actual games.

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          • allhailcale

            “Who said anything about punishing? They haven’t played anyone, so you can’t really see if they are better than they appear.”

            Thank you for illustrating my point.

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        • “Personally, I’d rather vote for a team based on what they have done than hold one back based on what they haven’t.”

          That is exactly the point. They haven’t done much, and other teams HAVE.

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        • Ausdawg85

          I’m defending Texas…which hurts btw. “Never been tested” is my perhaps poor wording that even the better teams on their schedule…say OU for example…were not able to push Texas as hard as in years past. I think that gives anyone dismissing UT (the burnt orange variety) a false impression of the real talent and capability on this year’s squad. Without comparing the stats, but just seeing the games, their D is probably every bit as equal to Fl and Bama. I’d put Colt and Shipley above Bama and even with GPOOE. No matter how you argue this, I believe it’s some fine distinctions rather than a wide variance. This team is loaded and doing what they need to do once they locked-up the Big 12 South and a very favorable road to the BCS Championship game. Mack Brown is smart enough not to waste time on style points this year (possibly costing Colt the Heisman). They’ve learned the “polls” lesson and are playing to it well.

          Cincy vs Texas would be fun…betting on how well Kelly can really coach. SEC winner vs. Texas may be another historic game though. Or a bust…who knows?!

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          • Ausdawg85

            P.S. For Stat lovers…I believe UT is #2 in Scoring Offense and #1 in Total Defense. Just saying….

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          • allhailcale

            ““Never been tested” is my perhaps poor wording that even the better teams on their schedule…say OU for example…were not able to push Texas as hard as in years past.”

            You do realize that OU pushed Texas harder this year than they did last year in the Shootout, right?

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      • ArchDawg

        I think it’s easier to oust Florida from the top 5 then Texas. Texas starts slow but has rolled in most of its games. Florida has looked like a top 5 team against who, outside of us? (and not counting FCS/Div I-AA teams)

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        • Maybe I’m old school, but I can’t help but give Florida a small nod for being the defending champs. That means something. It means that a lot of their players have “been there” and “got it done.”

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  3. Mike

    The voters are consistently saying the SECCG is the real National Title game.

    BTW, I cannot believe that there are voters who would leave any of Florida, Alabama or Texas off the top five list.

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  4. Munson's Call

    I am curious to see who left GT, Texas and TCU off of their Top 12’s based upon their team affiliation. I find it hard to justify anyone in the Mumme Top 6 not being listed in the best 12 teams in country.

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