It’s hard to believe that Footballcoachscoop.com was wrong about this.

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t feel particularly deflated about Kirby Smart turning down the Georgia DC job.  No offense to Smart, but all I care about is that the next coach is better than this guy:

(AP photo)

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76 responses to “It’s hard to believe that Footballcoachscoop.com was wrong about this.

  1. mant

    Here is what I would like to know.

    Why can’t Kirby Smart hold a presser and say what he is doing. I mean seriously. I want to hear it from the horses mouth. It’s quite easy

    “I’m staying at Alabama” Kirby Smart

    We have heard from everyone but the man. Is he a mute ??

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    • Ubiquitous GA Alum

      Saban doesn’t allow coaches to speak with the press. He did allow Smart to do so while in Passadena and we all parsed the heck out of his statements for 5 days.

      Seems like Saban is back to being the single voice for all things Bama football.

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      • mant

        Thanks Scooter. Much appreciated.

        Never understood why people let others speak for them…

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      • Dog in Fla

        Tide’s Kirby Smart: ‘At the end of the day, I just feel like this is where I am supposed to be.’

        I think Kirby was afraid that Nick would catch him if he decided to split Tuscaloosa for Athens and then order Kirby buried alive under a septic tank on the grounds of the old Bryce Hospital f/k/a Alabama Insane Hospital

        http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1564

        immediately adjacent to the UA campus. That way Kirby’s body would be so much harder to find because it was buried in a haunted place that nobody wants to dig around in.

        Kirby, being a big fan of chick flicks like ‘Kill Bill’, did not think he was man enough to punch his way out of a casket like Uma did. And if we can’t have a DC who can escape from being buried alive, why bother?

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    • Chuck Sanders

      He did. He was at Rolando’s Presser when Saban made the initial announcement. But Kirby did speak for himself. Check David Hale’s blog for his quotes.

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  2. D.N. Nation

    With you there. I had issue with Smart’s experience and, well, Saban cutting his meat for him today didn’t really change my mind.

    Can we just f-ing get on with it, then, rather than letting yet another social climber leverage us for a raise? Of course, we had to “settle” on Mark Fox in the basketball search and he’s turned out to be better (contextually) than any of the other candidates.

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    • rbubp

      People were wrong about Fox. Somehow they thought we could do better than that–a good young coach from a craphole prior to his time there with a proven track record…they competed nationally.

      People get so caught up in names. Just get us a damn coach already, Mark.

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  3. baltimore dawg

    exactly–i’m nonplussed. i would much rather richt take the “talent scout” approach that brought us bvg than throwing a shit-ton of money at the assistant-of-the-moment. as far as i’m concerned, the program cleared its biggest hurdle to progress simply by firing willie, jancek, and fabris.

    but i do hope that richt had a solid back-up plan that is already being implemented.

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  4. Greerdawg

    Funny! I laughed so hard at this post, I teared up. Agreed. Part of being on a team is sticking together when challenged. Keep plugging away CMR!!

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  5. Scooter

    As a Bama fan, I’m glad to see Smart staying. He will be a head coach in a couple of years.

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  6. Chuck

    My main disappointment in KS not coming is just that it still isn’t over. Truth is, we needed to make a serious offer (and I think we did), but him taking it would have been risky for us (and him as well). If he comes and succeeds – and let’s be honest, at that price, the success bar is pretty high – all is well, but if he comes and falls short of really high expectations, then we have a coach we cannot fire, possible dissension in the staff, and he has a career that is going off the track.

    When you are young and looking to buy your first house, and you want a house you can afford to buy and afford to keep and maintain, but your wife wants a house a few notches above what you want, and you know the maintenance is going to be a bear, you may have make the offer on the high end house to keep peace in the family, but if someone buys it out from under you, you may have to remember to act disappointed when you are around the wife.

    I think Damon is exhaling freely right now.

    And if KS isn’t able to do his own presser, maybe we really don’t want him, anyway.

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  7. Todd

    It is not about whether or not Smart can coach. We may well find someone better, and it is probably true that Saban pulls all the strings.

    It is that CMR just got played like a fiddle by one of UGA’s own. It cuts to the bone, and I am sick about it.

    It’s one thing for a pissant 18 year old to vacillate about what he is going to do. It is entirely another thing for one of your own to leverage you for a raise. I hope Kirby never entertained thoughts of being the head coach at his alma mater, because he will never have a chance now, and I hope that the rest of his coaching career is an absolute failure.

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    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      Todd Grantham.

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    • Hackerdog

      Spoken like someone who has never received an offer of employment to change jobs.

      Would I have liked to have Smart in Athens? Sure. Am I going to hold a grudge against a guy who took advantage of an opportunity to double his salary? Nope.

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      • The Realist

        That’s all well and good, but if you turn down an employment offer, you don’t really expect to ever get a call back from the same place, do you?

        Kudos to him for leveraging UGA for his benefit, but the powers that be at UGA could never seriously consider him for any position. You can call it the “fool me twice” syndrome. Nobody wants to get played like that twice.

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        • Hackerdog

          Its apples and oranges. Moving to UGA to take the DC job would be a lateral move. The main reason to make that move would be more money. Alabama raised his salary and removed that reason. Getting hurt feelings over it is crazy.

          If the head coaching job were vacant, then the move would no longer be lateral. The motivation for moving would also be greater. Assuming Smart is still a premier assistant when our head job becomes vacant, I wouldn’t be surprised, much less angry, if Evans interviewed Smart for the job.

          Personally, I think Smart played it as well as he could have and was fair to both sides. He and/or Richt didn’t want to talk before the title game. After the offer was made, he discussed it with Alabama and declined it the first business day after it was made. He probably made himself one of the top 5 highly paid assistants in college, thus guaranteeing that his next move will be for a head coaching job. Good for him and good for Alabama. Too bad for us. But no hard feelings.

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          • rbubp

            No one in a performance-intensive business like college football has a long memory. If Smart turns out to be a great HC and we need an HC he’ll get a call. Look at Saban. You think anybody’s going to turn him away despite his track record of being a lying jerkoff?

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          • Left to Right

            I think the point others are trying to make is that you don’t “better offer” family. Rightly or not, Georgia fans view former players as part of the UGA “family” and therefore do not expect someone like Smart to delay and leverage Georgia in an employment negotiation in the same manner he would other schools.

            He has known for a while now that Georgia was interested in him and was willing to significantly raise his salary. He obviously let it be known he was interested in returning (otherwise we wouldn’t have formerly offered him the job). His ultimate rejection of UGA’s offer (4 days after receiving it) therefore makes him look indecisive and unprofessional.

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            • Hackerdog

              Fans seeing Smart as family is the fans’ problem, not Smart’s. These sound like the same people that want David Pollack as the DC. Hell, while we’re at it, let’s name David Greene the head coach in waiting. Maybe we could get Herschel Walker as our Athletic Director.

              It seems to me that Smart was willing to move to Athens if we paid him significantly more than Alabama was willing to. He could not have known that Alabama would be willing to match our offer. Portraying Smart as some diabolical mastermind who had Richt and Evans dangling on his strings while he was simply trying to leverage more money out of Alabama isn’t being intelligent or fair.

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  8. mike

    He kind of looks like Raymond’s brother in this picture…Brad something or other.

    Not too worried about Smart not taking the job. It didn’t make a whole lot of sense. Hire someone that it does make a whole lot of sense for and someone that really wants it. I wonder how much more we’ll have to pay Grantham or someone else due to the ceiling being set at $600-$700k.

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  9. Hogbody Spradlin

    Look at Mark Bradley’s instant pot stir. I’m glad he told me we’re in the midst of a backlash. I didn’t know.

    What a putz.

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    • D.N. Nation

      Bradley also openly mocked Georgia’s hiring of Mark Fox.

      Call me when Saint Anthony Grant, with demonstratively superior talent bequeathed upon him, plays UK as well as we did.

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      • DawgBiscuit

        Wonder what Bradley said after CMF schooled Tech.

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        • D.N. Nation

          He mostly focused on how lousy Paul Hewitt is, though he eventually- and begrudgingly- mentioned that Fox had coached the Dawgs up.

          Bradley lost all credibility on the Fox hire when he suggested that none of Fox’s players had ever made it to the NBA. It’s called Google, Mark.

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  10. No way Grantham leaves a team that’s super-bowl bound until they lose (if at all, with our recent track record). Guess we’ve got at least another week or so of waiting until something gets done, at minimum.

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    • Dog in Fla

      Good. Now that Kirby has gotten himself out of the way with hopefully a big pay raise or some more titles, or both, from Nick (and for Nick, the pay raise you get to give Kirby is what you get for referring to Georgia as a ‘septic tank’, albeit a nutrient-rich septic tank).

      Is there any reason Todd Grantham or Travis Jones cannot accept the job if offered and remain with the Cowboys or Saints, respectively, for the remainder of their seasons?

      Granted, any pro coach still at work may not be able to do the dog and pony shows with our defensive recruits but as long as our coaches in the living rooms can say, he’d like to be here but he’s such a badass that he’s still occupado with the NFL playoffs, that should more than make up for any absence.

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  11. Chuck Sanders

    As i said last week here, Kirby had every reason to stay at Bama and very few reasons to come to UGA. This was a no-brainer; didn’t take a genius to see it. What i am shocked by are fans that actually thought he was going to leave the National Championship team to come to Athens….

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    • Pumpdawg

      Because if you have aspirations to be a head coach,you don’t stay under the wing of your mentor when the whole football world believes said mentor is the genius calling the shots.

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      • Chuck Sanders

        Gosh, Kirby should’ve called you for casreer advice. Cleary you know better than he does.

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        • Turd Ferguson

          This is funny. You show up and speak authoritatively about Smart’s reasons (or lack thereof) to leave Alabama … and then, when someone else suggests reasons for him to leave Alabama, you mock them for speaking so authoritatively.

          My irony-o-meter just exploded.

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          • Chuck Sanders

            Turd (how apropot),

            I never said Kirby would leve Bama. On the contrary, I ALWAYS said he wouldn’t leave and Dawg fans were morons to think he would.

            And i was right.

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    • Hackerdog

      It wasn’t a no-brainer, given that we offered to double his 2009 salary. Alabama may have decided that they didn’t need to spend that much money on a coordinator when Saban is very active in the defense.

      Once Alabama raised his salary to be on par with our offer, then I think it did become a no-brainer. But that development occurred after the erroneous reports of his leaving Tuscaloosa.

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      • Chuck Sanders

        The details of his new offer from Bama are not public yet, so how do you know what his new package entails? Oh, you must have a “source” on a message board or enjoy reading the factual posts at football scoop, huh?

        My bad.

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        • Hackerdog

          It’s called Google, Chuck. You can find such quotes as, “Smart reportedly will double his salary by staying at UA.”

          My super secret sources include The Birmingham News. Your bad indeed.

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  12. Scorpio Jones, III

    It seems to me all the reasons Kirby gave for NOT coming to Georgia are exactly the reasons we will be better off in the long run without him.

    I suspect the three-year portion of the contract may have been part of the problem, but it does not matter, Georgia will end up with a good DC.

    As to the whining about Kirby’s “loyalty”, believe me loyalty is a word that means nothing in the coaching business today.

    It is every man for himself or you get run over by the freight train…ask Phil, or Tommy, or the USC fans, or Bobby Bowden.

    Kirby did what he thought was best for he and his family right now, and realistically that is all you can ask of anybody.

    But please, God, let’s get this done very, very soon.

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  13. JP

    Probably dodged a bullet.

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  14. DoveDawg

    CMR needed to make a run at Kirby or the Dawg nation would have wondered why. So now that’s out of the way…Coach Richt can get on to evaluaiton other candidates that are well qualified. DC at UGA is a great job and I believe that we will have a good hire…but I’m not in a hurry…not wringing my hands…and don’t think that there is any need to do so! Let the process work…Coach Richt does not need to abide by the AJC timetable.

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    • 69Dawg

      This DC at UGA is a great job thing has me a bit troubled. If it was such a great job, why don’t we have one yet. It took Urban a couple of days, heck CPJ will have one before us. Something is strangely weird in Athens about this job. It’s not the money so it must be something else. Could it be the instant pressure to be the best DC in college football on a team that turns the ball over like they are allergic to pigskin?

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      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        It’s not like anybody turned us down to take another job with a competing prospective employer. CMR tried to get guys who were already in secure situations to leave and come to UGA. Their current employers apparently value these coaches highly and increased their respective salaries in order to keep them. The coaches/employees stayed. Not the same thing as getting rejected to take a new job with another team. I would not read anything into it about desirability. That said, the fan reaction to a UGA off season (which at some other schools would be a good enough record to be the cause of fanbase cheering) has to be, let me it say as delicately as possible, off-putting and therefor is somewhat counterproductive.

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  15. Bryant Denny

    Glad Bama is keeping KS. However, $700k for a DC? Wow.

    I kind of think this is a win-win for both Bama and UGA. Saban for sure didn’t want to let KS go. I think he’s a key part of the staff and Saban has gone to length’s to indicate that.

    From UGA’s perspective, how do you think a Richt-Smart marriage would have gone? I have no idea, but it seems like a good opportunity for a divided staff.

    I think UGA can get a good, if not great, DC.

    This move also keeps Smart (along with Muschamp) in the bullpen if Richt ever leaves.

    Have a good day,

    BD

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    • The Realist

      You all can call me crazy if you’d like, but this was Kirby’s shot to coach at Georgia. He turned it down. If Richt leaves in five years or ten years or twenty years, I would bet Kirby’s left nut that he would never be a candidate here again. The boosters have long memories, and he didn’t just turn Richt down. He turned Georgia down.

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      • rbubp

        Yeah, right.

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      • Hackerdog

        I think you’re confusing us with Alabama. And even they got over their “every coach must have ties to Bear” fixation. We tried a Georgia boy with Dooley ties with Goff and it didn’t work out.

        If we need a head coach while Smart is still a premier assistant, or a successful head coach at a smaller school, I think there’s nothing to stop us from bringing him in.

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  16. Hmmmmm

    Giggle Giggle. Great post. Right on the money. If nothing was better than before, than anyone should be an improvement. (Not Wommack)

    Give me sharp and hungry….

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  17. Dog in Fla

    Global War on Mark (GWOM) Crisis of the Day (COD) Piece, “I Got Blisters on My Fingers,” 11 January 2010

    Underground Bunker, Butts-Mehre Defense Complex, Athens

    In a closed debriefing between Damon and Mark inside the bunker at the Complex late today, above-ground observers heard the following sounds purposefully being piped out of the bunker’s early warning system loudspeakers to not only mask the conversation between Damon and Mark but also to keep the AJC sports ‘reporters’ on ‘the end of the world as we know it’ trail…

    While inside the bunker, Damon and Mark rock out now that they’ve made Nick give Kirby a pay raise and they keep on the sunnyside of life as they move onto ‘Plan D’ in the DC search which of course, as they’ve learned from Lane, is always the ‘Plan’…

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  18. drunk dawg

    Was just saying to a friend today that I didn’t want Smart. Short on experience and way too high expectations/money.

    Would much rather an under the radar hire of an up and coming defensive mind.

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  19. Rodney Holloway

    I really want Richt fired now. This is inexcusable. I’m going to call the call-in show constantly in 2010 and tell him I want him to quit. I’m not a very smart person at all, but I could do a better job than he does.

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  20. Rodney Holloway

    No. I’m dead serious. The guy just keeps losing and he’s too Christian to make us tough like Florida and Meyer.

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    • Rodney Holloway

      Meant as a reply to The Realist.

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    • ERK VANRUSSELL

      +1

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    • Bort

      Keeps losing. Got it. What, the fourth best winning percentage of active coaches. You are literally too stupid to insult.

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      • Rodney Holloway

        You are just a disney dawg, bort.

        I tell it like it is.

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        • SSB Charley

          Don’t get in his way guys, HE’S A REAL MAN WITH REAL THINGS TO SAY!!!11!! WHY WON’T YOU MORONS LISTEN TO THIS REAL MAN WITH REAL THINGS TO SAY???!!1!1!! DEMAND EXCELLENCE WEAKLING DISNEY DAWGS!!11!!1!!1!!!

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          • Rodney Holloway

            That’s exactly right, SSB.

            There are lots of disneys who are too scared to recognize the truth of how much Richt sucks. UGA is a laughingstalk now because of him. He’s too Christian. Urban Meyer and Nick Saban would kick ass with the talent we have. And they wouldn’t put up with all these losses.

            Too many Georgia fans are just scared to call a spade a spade though. I don’t settle for this 7-5 kind of crap though.

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            • Mayor of Dawgtown

              You’re right Rodney. You are not a very smart person at all.

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              • Rodney Holloway's 5th grade teacher

                Rodney,

                Please do your homework and go to bed. I don’t want to have you in my class next year for the third year in a row.

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            • Bort

              Laughingstalk?

              Can’t . . . type . . . properly . . . too . . . much . . . irony . . .

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              • Dog in Fla

                Definition of ‘Laughingstalk’:

                a manifestation of a painful symptom of what the Urban Dictionary defines as the

                ‘Asparagus Syndrome’:

                An unfortunate but happy person who is not only painfully autistic (asperger syndrome) but can’t spell for shit (dyslexic), e.g., “He says he feels a lighter shade of yellow today but when I told him to write down ‘yellow’, he wrote ‘hjsdf ‘. He must have Asparagus Syndrome.”

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  21. Tenn_Dawg

    Did Richt get advise from OJ about how to search for the “real killers”….I mean…..”new DC”?

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  22. Will Trane

    It has been widely reported, blogged, and commented upon how CMR has discussed the DC opening with four other DCs of prominent programs. All along I have questioned why CMR would even consider a DC from another SEC or ACC program. I give Saban some G2 for saying a lateral move is not good for any coach. Smart is not quite ready. Foster and Chavis are in the twilight of their coaching years. I thought CMR was smart enough not to go after these kind of coaches. Find a young experienced position coach, preferrably someone with strong DL coaching experience. It starts there, even before the ball is snapped. In D1 ball the D line and the O line are the keys to success. If you were impressed with Smart, Chavis, and Foster…well you will probably be disappointed in the DC hire. Frankly, I’m glad neither was hired. We may have been rejected by these coaches, but I have not heard much from CMR about any of them. That tells me something about where CMR is taking the show. Name me one position coach under Foster or Chavis that has gone anywhere. Name me one All American KS produced. There is some hell bent for sacks, shutouts, and goal line stands that wants to make a name for himself with an offensive that is going to put points on the board in droves next year.

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  23. Will Trane

    Coaching with and under Saban is a dead end street. Smart has a lot in common with McGuire. Both are feckless and faceless. Could you ever trust McGuire about any batting instruction. If I was a hitter in the Cardinals organization, I’d want to keep my distance from the man. If you were a HC or AD would you want to hire KS? Do you know if he is the guy running the D at Bama, or is actually Saban sending in the calls. After all Texas Tech stated they never considered him even though those ESPN guys said they were. But ESPN is like McGuire. How much stock can you put in their comments. Saban leaves Bama in two years. Do you think Smart gets the postion. Think not. You learn Ds by seeing other O coaches at work. Regrets by Smart. Ask him in two years.

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    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      Actually, since the schools on the west coast all seem to be locking up their coaches to prevent a raid by USC the logical thing for Mike Garrett to do is go after Saban. Just because we haven’t heard about it yet doesn’t mean it won’t happen. I think it is 50-50 that Saban is gone to USC within a month. We all know about his level of loyalty. Now that he has won a BCSNC at 2 different schools why not try to do it at 3? If that happens I do not see Bama making Smart the HC. Maybe Smart will go to LA with Saban if that happens. He also may rue the day he did not take the DC job with UGA, and soon. Just thinking out loud.

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      • 69Dawg

        USC is a ghost ship. Hollywood Pete would never leave there if the NCAA had kept giving them a pass on anything they did. The B’ball team is on probation and now the football team is headed that way, does that not scream lack of institutional control. The AD needs to be fired to save their butts. I don’t like Saban but he’s not crazy, USC ain’t happening.

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    • Dog in Fla

      Leave Mark McGuire alone! Didn’t you see the water in his eyes last night under the withering cross-examination by Bobby Costas? Mark McGuire is a victim! He said so himself.

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    • Hackerdog

      If Smart were simply holding a clipboard for Saban, I doubt Alabama would have felt the need to double his salary in order to keep him.

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      • 69Dawg

        I agree but it’s the perception. ESPN calls it Saban’s D, how many mentions are made of KS. Will Muschamp must have felt it was a good thing to get out from under Saban’s shadow and it seemed to work out well for him.

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