Looks like I picked the wrong week to go birther.

It’s a pretty safe bet that any discussion involving Tommy Tuberville and Sean Hannity is going to be fertile grounds for mockery.  This one doesn’t disappoint.

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UPDATE:  More good stuff here.

“We’ve got to have leadership in this country,” Tuberville said. “For our president to do something like this, to go to a church and portray an image like this, doesn’t represent all people. I’m a football coach, and I have to represent everybody on our football team and our alumni and our fan base. I’m the leader, and you have to do that, so leadership’s very important.”

It’s beyond me why he’d stick himself out there like that.  I’ve got to believe there are plenty of recruits and their families with a different opinion of the President than Tuberville’s.  Although I’m sure Craig James is thrilled to find that he and Tubs are kindred spirits.

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74 responses to “Looks like I picked the wrong week to go birther.

  1. Scott W.

    Talk about a glass house, Tubbs should be the last one pumping conspiracy theories…or should he be the first one? DUNDUNDUN

  2. Bad M

    What…a…Douche…bag.

  3. Hogbody Spradlin

    I thought Tuberville had enough sense after all these years to stick to his knitting.

  4. aristoggle

    Anybody else getting a mental image of Yosemite Sam? Guns up!

  5. This was on the “GREAT AMERICAN PANEL”. Clearly, discussing only things that Great Americans would discuss.

    So, really, the only question we really need to be asking here is “Why do you hate America, Senator?”

    • Vindexdawg

      This question is more properly directed to dirtbags like Donald Trump – or indeed, anyone who behaves as if he or she has some kind of copyright or patent on patriotism. Same as with fundies insisting on ancient humans existing side by side with dinosaurs and then squeal about “religious oppressions” when someone calls them on their appalling ignorance. Like they owe the copyright to Christianity. They are doing it more damage than Osama Ben Laden ever dreamed of.

    • I know, I know… I’m taking medication for it, but it flares up sometimes. ;)

  6. Will

    This whole thread makes me so very, very happy. Not one crazy-asshole response about the President being Muslim or Kenyan or some other out-group. Are Georgia fans finally growing up, or is it just a tough day for most to pull their heads out of the sand?

    I say that as someone SUPER tired of the political nature of too much of our football fandom. I cannot describe how tired I am of having politics intrude on my love of Georgia football.

    • baltimore dawg

      agreed. but let’s give some credit to blutarsky: he keeps the most intelligent and sophisticated uga blog, so it naturally attracts the more sober-minded among our kind.

      • Will (the other one)

        Although “sober-minded” should never be misconstrued as “teatotaling”.
        Speaking of which, I’m late for happy hour…

    • Russ

      Agreed. Too much political crap on here (well, ANY on a football blog is “too much”).

    • No One Knows You're a Dawg

      Just don’t ask about the real meaning of Appomattox.

    • W Cobb Dawg

      Well said Will.

  7. D.N. Nation

    Good thing Tommy doesn’t have to recruit black athletes or anything.

  8. I’ve thought for a long time that Tubby is one of the smarmiest assholes in all of college football. In a way, discovering that he hasn’t changed his spots even after leaving Auburn is kind of comforting.

  9. JaxDawg

    So the double-standard appears to be live and well. A white American citizen can criticize his President and he’s a racist, but a black American citizen can criticize a former President and he’s not. At some point, the hypocracy of all this will hopefully end.

    • The straw men, too, one hopes. Who in this thread called Tuberville a racist? The most popular epithet I see here is “douchebag,” which seems perfectly legit in this case.

      • JaxDawg

        Calling TT a “douchebag” b/c one doesn’t agree with his statement is ridiculous. Anyone should just ignore him if it upsets them that much. He may have been a smarmy ass as a coach, but this isn’t coaching, it’s politics. As for “racist”, I was referring to the gentleman’s insinuation that he will have trouble recruiting black athletes, in addition to the posts within the article.

        • As for “racist”, I was referring to the gentleman’s insinuation that he will have trouble recruiting black athletes, in addition to the posts within the article.

          Not sure where you get racist from that. I think the point is that it’s probably in a football coach’s best interests (i.e. job self-preservation) not to air out his personal feelings on this subject when the bulk of the families he’ll be make recruiting visits to (more than 50% of college football players happen to be African-American) may not agree with his personal viewpoints and therefore not want their son to attend that school.

          Whether that’s right or wrong that some African-American families would not want their sons to play for Tuberville because of this is not the point. It may very well be the reality, however.

        • Nice try, but Birtherism isn’t about “criticizing the president”, as you so neutrally phrase it. It’s about questioning his legitimacy. So, yeah, were I black, I might take a certain amount of offense to Tuberville’s foolishness. Of course, as a defense maybe he could point to all the other presidents he’s questioned about producing their birth certificates.

          • JaxDawg

            No previous Presidents have ever been questioned because their births, backgrounds, associations, and personal history have never been as obscure and vague as Obama’s. And you know as well as I counsel that Obama could have provided the certificate 3 years ago and avoided this hoopla but for (1) his desire to perpetuate the scandal, and (2) his arrogance.

            Personally I’m glad it’s over so he can tackle bigger issues. Like restoring drilling permits in the gulf.

            • LMAO. I’m sure you can provide extended details of the “births, backgrounds, associations, and personal history” of every one of Obama’s predecessors, right? And how many of them have written two best selling books about their “obscure and vague” lives?

              Obama provided the same proof of birth that any other Hawaii native would produce in 2008. It wasn’t good enough for Birthers then, and I doubt what he’s produced today will make any difference to most of them now. It’s offensive to turn it around and lay the blame for the craziness on Obama. That’s just as bad as somebody blaming Bush for failing to address the equally obnoxious Truthers by proving that he had nothing to do with 9/11.

              I’ve got no problem with free speech and political criticism, but there’s something really wrong with a large segment of the population questioning the president’s legitimacy on such a shoddy basis.

              • Normaltown Mike

                FWIW, the Clinton’s or there underlings started the Dirty War on Obama back in ’08. Specifically, they tried to link Obama to Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko. They also had more credible questions centered on why Barry was not releasing the original cert and whether it had any embarrassing details. Perhaps his birth name was Barry Durham or that an addendum was filed when (if) he was adopted by Mr. Soetero. It was never an attack on his citizenship.

                The link below is an article and blog of a former CIA spook who raised these questions. He contributed to the Huffpo in 2008 & gave the Democratic weekly address in 2005 so you can guess if he’s part of the vast right wing conspiracy.

                Irregardless (which is more fitting for the subject of birthers), right wing conspiracy theorist picked up the small controversy (not producing an original cert) and discarded all other logic in the bizarre windmill titling that has followed.

                Just glad its over.

                http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/12/what-does-an-authentic-hawaiian-birth-certificate-look-like/

                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-c-johnson/no-he-cant-because-yes-th_b_87036.html

            • No previous Presidents have ever been questioned because their births, backgrounds, associations, and personal history have never been as obscure and vague as Obama’s.

              Yeah, sure.

              And that post omits my favorite story: Woodrow Wilson, who was a citizen of the CSA at age five.

        • Krautdawg

          “Calling TT a “douchebag” b/c one doesn’t agree with his statement is ridiculous. Anyone should just ignore him if it upsets them that much.”

          And yet you must respond to “the gentleman’s” insinuations.

        • Bad M

          I’m not calling him a douchebag because I disagree with him. I’m calling him that because he’s acting like one. Once you get up on your public soapbox and spout stupidity…you invite criticism. He has a right to say whatever he wants, and I will defend to the death his right to say it. But I have a right to call him out on his stupidity. In fact, I have an obligation…to not let the loudest stupid person to take over the debate.

          Off the top of your head, I bet you can’t tell me where the last ten presidents were born.

    • JaxDawg; Sorry,But It Will Never Happen (Or End).

  10. 1. buy gold and subscribe to the Heritage Foundation
    2. Grab 2×4 and start “USA!” chant
    3. Tell everyone what “good christians do”

    My favorite part of the bible is where Jesus gives money to the rich, tells the poor to suck it up, and asks Caesar for his birth certificate.

    • Normaltown Mike

      1. buy non-hyrdogenated soy creamer for your fair trade coffee
      2. grab a bongo and start “Si se puede” chant
      3. Tell everyone what “good progressives do”

      My favorite part of the Obama Presidency is where Barry gives money to the rich (by extending Bush tax “cuts”), tells the poor to suck it up (by promising tax subsidies for the uninsured but not for 4 years), and holds a press conference to publish his birth certificate to dispute the claims of television “business man” Donald Trump.

    • JaxDawg

      you must live in San Fran and smoke alot of weed.

    • thewhiteshark

      My favorite part is where Jesus steals money from the rich, espouses income redistribution and calls people racist for disagreeing with Caesar.

      • I don’t have a dog in this hunt, but I thought Jesus did espouse income redistribution: “If thou wilt be perfect, go sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven…”

        • thewhiteshark

          There is a difference between giving what is yours to give and having someone else take what is yours to redistribute. Jesus didn’t tell Lazarus or Joseph of Arimathea (who were also wealthy) to sell all they had. He was testing the heart of the rich young man you refer to and actually gave him a choice. He didn’t forcibly take it.

          • There is a difference between giving what is yours to give and having someone else take what is yours to redistribute.

            Certainly, but both would still be characterized as redistribution of wealth from one to another.

            • Normaltown Mike

              picking nits but charity is voluntary, redistribution (via the IRS) is compulsory.

              • Picking nits back at you, but “redistribution” is a neutral word. What you’re describing is taxation.

                Look, I get the point you guys are making. I’m just sort of tired of people charging the meaning of every term to suit them politically. Sometimes I feel like returning my economics degree. ;)

              • Derek

                I’ve never understood why it’s ok to draft an American and ask them to put their lives on the line for their fellow citizens while asking for their money isn’t. Why exactly is it patriotic to be conscripted to kill and die for your country but being asked to pay for it is un-American? One seems a much greater imfringement on freedom than the other.

          • simpl_matter

            Jesus said the first would be last and the last would be first in the coming kingdom. What rich man sits at the front of that line? He said that the tax-collectors, the most despised people, would find their rightful place in the coming kingdom. Paraphrasing, “it is more likely that a camel would find its way through the eye of a needle that a rich man find his way into heaven.” He was against accumulating any amount of wealth. He was a Jewish Apocalypticist, he preached that we should all abandon all our worldly things now and prepare for the coming kingdom that is at hand. Rationalize it in whatever way helps you sleep at night but, Jesus would have you give up all your possessions and prepare for the coming kingdom. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s….

            • Dawg85

              Now that’s an out of context reading of Jesus. Jesus dealt with people as individuals. He asked one person to sell all he had without asking others who were wealthy to do the same. When Mary anointed His feet with some expensive perfume and Judas asked why it wasn’t sold and the money given to the poor, it was Judas who was rebuked and not Mary. Income redistribution is not simply a tax issue. It is a sociopolitical economic justification for certain political agendas. Some taxation is obviously necessary, but then so is some governmental responsibility.

              • It is actually not out of context if you read Mark exclusively. Jesus also said, in Mark, that those in attendance at the sermon on the mount would surely be alive when the Son of Man returns and the Kingdom of God begins. Jesus was indeed a Jewish Apocalypticist, if you only read Mark. The other gospels, notably John, tell a revised version as they were written much later.

  11. I was A TT Fan when he was at Miss. & ever since. Now Auburn joins Tenn. but still behind UF as the teams that I never pull for.

    • Go Dawgs!

      What does this have to do with Auburn? Because they used to employ but no longer employ someone who doesn’t like President Obama and is a birther as their football coach? Why not also add Ole Miss to that list? For that matter, you’d better add a lot of schools to that list because I’m sure there are other coaches at other schools who feel similarly. You may not have noticed, but football coaches tend to skew conservative in their public comments on political issues. Not saying there aren’t liberals out there, just that they tend to stay quiet about it since so many high-dollar boosters are right-wingers.

  12. Dawg85

    Glad he’s finally released it. Now we can get on with how generally incompetent he really is.

  13. MauiDawg

    Why not come out and say it. Obama was/is a mistake. Same goes for every other “appointed” candidate. Good job Tub. Now tell us how you really feel.

  14. Slaw Dawg

    One “birther” (Charlie Sheen) cozies up to Ga Tech, and another was a long time coach at AU. Let’s be honest now–neither is noted for overwhelming good sense. Meanwhile, big Obama supporter Samuel L Jackson “comes out” as a Dawg fan and saves his craziness for the parts he plays in movies. I’m not about to do anything to further politicize this great Dawg blog, so take this as “hmmmmm…” food for thought!

  15. Mike

    With JJ gettting the boot, looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking!

  16. Pumpdawg

    Uhhh,How Bout Them Dawgs?

  17. thewhiteshark

    Speaking of Samuel L. Jackson. Check out the dude in the tie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd0G0f50_9g

  18. Mohammar

    “They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action.

    Wait, what were we talking about?”
    24.Joe Beese – April 27, 2011 | 5:23 pm

    http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/04/27/why-obama-waited/

  19. Mike

    Obama may not be Kenyan, but I am pretty sure he is STILL a Keynesian.

  20. JaxDawg

    I guess none of this will matter after he loses next year.

  21. Wrapping up two lines of argument in this thread, let’s see Obama disprove this.