Taking his time.

Dennis Dodd asks a question that’s been on my mind.

… Right now being the key message. Byrne was Mississippi State’s AD when the Cam Newton mess started. In the name of Cecil Newton, why hasn’t there been emergency legislation to close the loophole that allowed Cam’s dad to raffle him off to the highest bidder?

As Dodd observes, Mark Emmert’s been on the job for seven months.  How long does it take to draft a couple of paragraphs to fix what even Emmert admits is a serious black eye for the NCAA?


UPDATE:  I guess the NCAA figures it has bigger fish to fry.


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19 responses to “Taking his time.

  1. Dog in Fla

    “Maybe it’s too hazardous to invite scrutiny. Maybe too many ADs weigh that job security against a possible NCAA investigation.”

    Maybe they know better than to be hoisted on their own retard?


  2. The other Doug

    Does the NCAA create a rule that outlaws any family member trying to shake a school down or just when it’s a parent who has influence over the recruit?


  3. X-Dawg

    Maybe Emmert is “All In”.


  4. Go Dawgs!

    If the NCAA called an emergency convention to close the loophole which enabled the Cam Newton scandal, it would make sense. Nothing the NCAA does with regards to legislation or enforcement makes sense. Therefore, the NCAA hasn’t held an emergency convention to close the Newton loophole.


  5. Marmot

    BECAUSE THERE IS NO LOOPHOLE…. unless being able to only attend institutions from which you did not solicit benefits is a loop hole. If it is then they need to close that down quick. Kids everywhere are signing with schools where there is no evidence they solicited benefits. NCAA needs to get on that.

    On a serious note, should a kid be ineligible everywhere if he solicits benefits even just once? So 5* asks Richt or Georgia booster for money, should Georgia have to shut down their recruitment of that kid even if the answer to his solicitation is no? Should that kid’s career be over even though he can’t play at Georgia?

    I get it, Cecil and Auburn look circumstantially guilty. If he was asking for money from Miss St, he must have asked Auburn for money. There are plausible scenarios where Cecil gave up on his pursuit of cash, but no one’s talking and the silence just amplifies the sense of guilt. But that guilt has to be proven beyond circumstantial evidence or there is nothing to punish. There’s not even a loophole that needs closing. Bottom line, it doesn’t matter and it shouldn’t matter what conversations Cecil had with Miss St.


    • Silver Creek Doug

      According to SEC bylaws, yes, he is ineligible just for soliciting extra benefits.

      Doesn’t matter if he actually received any or not..


    • Should a kid be ineligible everywhere if he solicits benefits even just once?


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      • He should at least be ineligible for his freshman season or however many games that first year. Otherwise there is no reason not to shop around until you find a taker. If you never do or someone finds out you are shopping around you just sign with a school you never talked to about it and you are magically forgiven.


    • Krautdawg

      “That guilt has to be proven beyond circumstantial evidence or there is nothing to punish.”

      Wrong issue. The NCAA was satisfied that its “circumstantial evidence” of amateurism violations was sufficient — in other words, Cecil’s convos with Missy State DID matter. It simply set a stricter standard for who acts “on behalf of” a player, requiring evidence that the player knows his parent is soliciting money on his behalf. How much evidence is required? We don’t really know, but again, the NCAA will gladly rule on the basis of any circumstantial evidence it can find.

      So yeah, for enterprising parents, there’s a BIG loophole.


  6. Hogbody Spradlin

    And besides, Cecil didn’t raffle Cam off. No sir. He auctioned him off.


  7. Mayor of Dawgtown

    There is no loophole. The anti-shakedown rule clearly states that a player is banned for soliciting funds if done directly by him “or family member.” To let Cammie off the hook because he allegedly “didn’t know” what Cecil did was total BS. Of course he did. But to twist the plain language of the rule like the NCAA did turns it into something completely unenforceable. You can never prove the violation because, like Cammie, the crooked player will just deny he had any knowledge. NCAA just go out of business. Your usefulness as an institution has completely disappeared. Bunch of idiots.


    • MinnesotaDawg

      +1. Exactly. It’s never been clear to me that the existing rule needs to be fixed based on this case. Newton was found to be ineligible under the rules. That could have been the end. However, it was the NCAA itself that, immediately afterwards, reversed the rule-based ineligibility because of “mitigating circumstances” (a totally discretionary finding as far as I can tell). Those circumstances essentially were that Cam said he didn’t know. Of course, almost everyone outside of Lee County believes Cam’s protests of ignorance (about the payoff) to be self-serving horseshit. But that’s pretty apropos given what the NCAA has asked us to swallow throughout this Auburn fiasco.


  8. Dog in Fla

    UK response to the NCAA all the all-you-can-eat “bigger fish to fry” inquisition



  9. Go Dawgs!

    I’ve never been a conspiracy guy, but this season/offseason is starting to really make me wonder what the hell the NCAA is doing. At this point, they’d have a hard time convincing me that they don’t just go after the low-hanging fruit to look tough on infractions, while willingly turning a blind eye to serious issues. Are they really getting into a pissing contest with the University of Kentucky over patting Calipari on the back for his 500th on-court victory just two months after being FORCED by the media to take a harder look at what was going on at Ohio State? Do they really give a rip about UK honoring a man that they allowed UK to hire (who has never been directly implicated in wrongdoing, though given what we’ve learned about the quality of the NCAA’s investigations, that doesn’t necessarily exonerate him)?

    Within the past year, the NCAA has bitchslapped schools for having athletes get improper benefits while holding the door open for Ohio State to play in the Sugar Bowl after being caught red-handed with players receiving *the same benefits*. Yet, we’re supposed to think Calipari’s game ball is a big freaking deal? Tell ya what, NCAA, I’ll call UK. I’ll talk them into taking the ball back from Calipari, after he signs it, of course, and then we’ll just give it to the quarterback of whatever team happens to be unbeaten in Week 10. He can sell it and use the proceeds to make sure he and his boys have a good time at the BCS Championship Game. That’s kosher, right?


    • Dog in Fla

      Dennis Talbot sees no problem with autographed balls.


    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      The top conferences have got to get together and take this all away from the NCAA which has repeatedly demonstrated a complete lack of will to police intercollegiate athletics appropriately. The NCAA plays favorites, punishes minor violations done by non-favored schools with disproportionate severity, ignores serious violations of the favored schools until forced to take action by media exposure–then gives them a slap on the wrist. Plus, often the NCAA Rules are too complicated and just plain don’t make sense. Form a new organization Big 6 Conferences and tell the NCAA to take a hike.


  10. Cojones

    Sometimes you people really bother me. Cam said that he didn’t know , so that should be the end of it. In absence of any negligle proof we should take the scholar-athlete at his word or you will doubt nearly everything good players tell us. So, make up your mind!! OK. Now that we trust the computer stealing, scholastic cheatin’ SOB, that should be the end of it.


  11. Sep

    Cam is a tremendous athlete but a NFL qb, no. His next few years will be pure hell so there better be a nice signing bonus.

    Cam knew of the Dad thing or he is even more of a da than I think and his NFL carreer will be even more purely crappy.