Evidently some folks see the need for an eight-city “Colonel Reb Road Tour’’.
The Biloxi mayor yearns for the good ole days:
“It’s hard not to come down on the side of the tradition,’’ Holloway said. “They asked me to talk about my playing days. In three years, we lost just one game and tied one game.’’
Ah, yes, 1959-62. When mascots were mascots and football teams were segregated. Good times.
Get The Picture 
Colonel Reb was gonna get the key to City of Biloxi but then he got high
Colonel Reb thought he was going to take delivery of the key from Mayor Condredge Holloway but then he got high
Colonel Reb was sent off to Gulfport and Biloxi but then he got high
Colonel Reb was gonna take a hot blonde with him but then he got high
Colonel Reb mistakenly took this one instead
Cause he got high, cause he got high, cause he got high
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THIS. +100 for cross-post referencing.
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If PETA ever were to get enough support for Georgia to move to a more “progressive” mascot and retire the “out-dated” and “inhumane” use of a live Uga on the sideline, I’m sure you would be pissed too.
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That may be the silliest hypothetical ever to grace GTP’s comments section.
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Come on senator, don’t you see how poorly that dog is treated? I’m certain that he’s humming “this is how I’m livin, massa got me workin” every game day. This exploitation of free animal labor must end. Further not considering the comparison of bulldog to human bondage as apt suggests a homo-centrist perspective on your part. Apparently there is the idea among some that rejecting slavery will lead inevitably to the demise of the hamburger much like gay marriage is the first step in legalized man/chicken love affairs. Who am I to argue with such intellects? Seems a waste of time. Afterall they warned us what would happen if we let chicks vote and then we ended up with un-umerkan libruls running stuff. White men everywhere just want their damn country back that we rightfully stole as God intended. Is that so wrong? Is it so wrong to harken back to the halcyon days when injuns was dead and blacks were property and women couldn’t vote or own property. For 30% of the population it was awesome and isn’t that what democracy is all about?
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“Apparently there is the idea among some that rejecting slavery will lead inevitably to the demise of the hamburger much like gay marriage is the first step in legalized man/chicken love affairs.”
I’m still laughing. Senator, please consider posting this as the featured quote this week.
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Derek was channeling his inner Rick Santorum there.
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I didn’t get a harrumph outta that guy …
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Kraut, you know what they say:
Kinky is when you use a feather. Perverted is when you use the whole chicken.
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Hogbody, if you’ll just keep telling stories the drinks are on me.
And Senator, since you don’t seem to understand I’ll summarize for you: If we would get mad at PETA for taking away Uga as our mascot, we can’t make fun of an Ole Miss man for pining for his slaveholding mascot. And we can’t make fun of that Ole Miss man if our students & alums were angry back when we removed “Dixie” from our program.
Therefore, if Uga students were angry back when “Dixie” was removed, you may NOT be angry when PETA takes Uga.
And that, Senator, is your Full Santorum.
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I think I need one of those drinks, too.
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You completely missed the point of CDS’ remark, Senator. Whether one agrees or disagrees with the mascot Ole Miss had for all those years there are those who will be nostalgic for the “good ol’ days” when they were among the nation’s elite football programs and who resent political correctness causing a disconnection with those days. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. As for that 1959-62 wisecrack, how many blacks were playing for Ohio State, Michigan, Southern Cal, UCLA, Oregon, etc. in those days? What is silly and also unfair is trying to judge the actions of people from another era based upon present day mores.
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Political correctness isn’t causing a “disconnection” with the program’s glory days. The fact that their football team sucks is taking care of that.
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Jesus, Mayor, when we’ve reached the point that objecting to a symbol of racial dominance is dismissed as mere political correctness, I’m not sure there’s anything left to be offended by. What’s next, supporting nostalgia for the swastika? And somehow I’m supposed to understand the moral equivalence between the symbol of a plantation owner and a pet who wears a sweater? Please get real.
By the way, I’m not judging the actions of people from another era. The present-day mayor of Biloxi is the one waxing nostalgic for the days when blacks weren’t allowed to attend the school he suited up for. And while I don’t know the number of black football players who played for the schools you mention, I’m damned sure it’s more than zero. And none of those schools took an official position in support of plantation life (from the white perspective, of course), either.
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Can somebody PLEASE buy the mayor a drink today, anyone, please.
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Thanks, I’ll have a Glenlivet on the rocks.
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If Johnny weren’t dead, he’d probably buy both you and the one in Biloxi a mint julep apiece but not Glenlivets and tell you both that if even he could keep it real, anybody can
http://formerspook.blogspot.com/2006/02/john-howard-vaught-rip.html
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My pleasure Sir. Let’s make it a double.
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If we’re going to start pointing fingers at programs for not playing black players in the 1959-62 era ptaytell exactly how many blacks played for our alma mater, UGA, during that period? I believe the answer would be the same–zero.I just don’t like hypocrisy and this whole approach to the issue raised in this thread reeks (there’s that USCe word again) of it.
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The difference, Mayor, is that nobody at Georgia wants to bring back a fifty-year old symbol of racial prejudice. You really don’t see a difference between Colonel Reb and Uga?
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On the contrary, I’ve met several students during my 10 years at UGA who wish we still played “Dixie” at games. I think glorification of this region’s worst 5 years ever is misguided regional chauvanism. But then, I’m from Texas, so who am I to talk.
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This.
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I seem to remember that when the UGA Administration removed the word “Dixie” from the name of the school marching band (it used to be the Dixie Redcoat Marching Band) an outcry was heard from certain alums, students and fans of the Bulldog Nation not unlike what we heard emanate from the great state of Mississippi over this mascot change business. My point is that people living in houses manufactured by Corning shouldn’t be tossing rocks at folks who are similarly situated. Just sayin.’ And I do not think your attempts at manufacturing artificial distinctions is working very well on this one Senator.
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Right… some joker drops in with a lame assed PETA analogy and I’m the one manufacturing artificial distinctions.
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You do seem to be trying your absolute best to avoid discussing the real issue of all of this which is that UGA fans/alums have done virtually the same things that you are criticizing Ole Miss fans/alums for doing. That’s what the thread was about. A little hypocrisy there don’t you think Senator? The truth is every thing you said about Ole Miss in this thread you could just as easily have said about the University of Georgia if you were being intellectually honest about things. UGA didn’t have a black player until Horace King in around 1970 as I recall. So don’t point at the schools’ respective mascots or make fun of an old man who is proud of playing for his state university 50+ years ago, acting as if we from UGA are somehow morally superior to those dolts from Mississippi. We in Georgia are the same thing they are, maybe just cleaned up a little and with slightly better manners.
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Mayor, you seem to have me confused with an entire fan base. I don’t speak for anyone but me. So unless you’ve got evidence of me singing “Dixie” at the top of my lungs or passionately waiving a Confederate battle flag around, you’re way off the mark here.
Personally, I’m offended at being compared to a PETA member. I’m surprised you aren’t.
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PETA? I love that kind of bread.
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With the exception of Russ the Temporary Bulldog, an outlier with good genetics thus far, if the non-Darwinian breeders keep fouling up the genetics, there will be no need for PETA to do anything.
“They crossed the remnants of the existing stock with the pug and over the years that followed they developed the modern English Bulldog. Unfortunately though, this modern dog is wrought with all kinds of genetic health problems.”
http://www.pocokennels.com/about.html
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Uga stays in better hotels than I do
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He gets better tickets to games as well, which is only fittin’ seeing as how he does all that slavin’.
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Maybe they should also honor tradition by attacking American soldiers surrounding the Lyceum. And while they’re at it, they can find an actor to play Ross Barnett to shout “Never!” at a home football game. Should do wonders for recruiting.
I’m fascinated by Ole Miss fans. They must feel such conflict between their desire to win and their desire to honor traditions that kill them in recruiting players who can help them win. Maybe this should be Nutt’s defense for oversigning: “look, it’s hard as hell for me to recruit quality players when I have fans pining for symbols of a government that came into being to protect the right of slaveowners to take their slaves into the West, so my only avenue is to replace quality with quantity. Can you blame me?”
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Starting with Billy Brewer, every Ole Miss head coach has complained in one form or fashion about Colonel Reb. I doubt it’s because they’re all flaming liberals.
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I dunno, I heard Ed Orgeron hosted a fundraiser for Dennis Kucinich a few years back.
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Let them do as they wish. Its their school, their state and culture…
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States’ Rights Forever!!!
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Ah, Mississippi. Old times there are not forgotten. Distorted to seem like they were better times than they actually were, but not forgotten.
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I attend law school at Ole Miss, and the funny thing about the whole Colonel Reb business is that none of the students care. Sure, most of them think having a Smokey the Bear knockoff as their mascot is lame, but, with the exception of a couple of 4th generation morons who wear Confederate uniforms to games, they really couldn’t care less. Hell, a good many of them don’t even care about the football games. They don’t have football season in Oxford, they have “Grove season.”
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You know, I want to chalk that attitude up to being generational in nature, but then I see stuff like this and wonder if I’m giving the younger folks too much credit.
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The fact that it’s below 50% is actually progress for the state of Mississippi. I wish the people of Mississippi would get over all of this Confederate nonsense. Like I said, I don’t think the majority of college-educated Mississippians in my age group are that hell bent on hanging onto these “traditions.” However, there is a really vocal minority that gives the university a bad name.
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“really vocal minority that gives the university a bad name.”
Same for Oral Roberts/Regent School of Law and William & Mary Law School LLM program
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Senator, don’t get wobbly on me.
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Something tells me that admonition is a tad late to the game.
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They also need to face that Col. Reb isn’t their only barrier to recruiting.
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It’s white girls. Chris Rainey would not put up with this:
For Cornell, the decision to leave Southern California after graduating from Amat has been what he calls the best move he’s ever made, though the social setting in the South took some getting used to. And Cornell, never shy in high school about expressing his opinion, was more than happy to tell the folks back home about his first school day at Ole Miss.
“I had taken my California learning and experience to Mississippi, and this is what really struck me my first day here,” Cornell said. “I was looking for a building and went up to a white girl and said, `Do you know where I can find the Hume building?’ And she looks at me, rolls her eyes, points and walks off.
“It was because I’m black. At the time, I didn’t know it; I just thought she was being rude. If you’re going to talk to a white girl here, you’re either going to keep it on the down low, or she’s going to have a very different set of friends. That’s the social dynamic here. I’m not saying everybody is like that here, but for the most part.”
And Cornell’s first-day experience soon got even better.
“Then after that class, I go to another class and I ask this black girl where the next building is and she says, `Why don’t you go ask your white girlfriend? I saw you talking to her.’ ” Cornell said. “It really struck me.
“I was like, `You really feel like that?’
“I really can’t understand anything of that nature. But you know what? As much as people want to say about the South and its ways, you still have racism everywhere you go, and I hate it when people act like racism is specific to the South.”
http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvfootball/2011/03/former-amat-star-jonathan-cornell-has-eye-on-nfl-career.html
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Rainey would have threatened to kill her at the first sign of an eye roll.
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It’s remotely possible that Chris learned a lesson. He may not have been a good fit in Oxford.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/25039371/detail.html
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When Ole Miss was going through the mascot thing, I thought something was off kilter. The problem is, they’re still the Ole Miss Rebels. I’m going to reserve opinion on whether it’s silly to take Colonel Rebel on a farewell tour, or whether it’s right or wrong to give up Colonel Rebel. After all, I’m not one to argue.
If they really wanted to address the problem they should have changed the school’s fight symbol like Stanford, Marquette, etc. Changing the mascot and staying the Rebels is half hearted and delays the day of reckoning. At the least they deserve ridicule for being chickens**t.
I’m sure there was a compromise necessary, but the whole situation just looks wrong, like everybody is ignoring the elephant in the room.
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Let there be light! Finally, someone who said something intelligent on this thread. If the Mississippians were going to do change their mascot to a bear, they should have changed the name of the team to the Ole Miss Bears at the same time. Do that or leave the whole thing alone.
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If you’re going to cleanse for perfect sensitivity, then cleanse for perfect sensitivity.
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They should have a cut a deal with LucasFilms and changed the mascot to Adm. Ackbar while putting the Rebel Alliance logo on their helmets. They’d have made a killing in merchandise sales. And the Rebels problem would be solved.
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Go back to sleep, bro.
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Oy!
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