Hypothetically speaking, don’t you wish A.J. had received hypothetical cash for his jersey which he would have hypothetically deposited into his hypothetical bank account?
After all, his trip to Miami was hypothetical.
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Crowder has a point. The jersey is the player’s property. What’s next? The NCAA going to tell players they can’t sell their couch?
In Crowder case if he is selling a couch, it probably came from someone else’s house.
I agree…I am beginning to think that allowing players to sell their property OR receive fees for licensing their names is going to be the solution to these issues and not have to pay them directly. The ones whose names are the biggest will get more, as it should be, and the schools and/or ADs themselves are not involved with raising money to pay players. If you can get it, flaunt it; if you can’t, you still have a free education.
Yes because when it comes to sports memorabilia, AJ did not hypothetically rob anyone
Here’s the thing. Stop being a dick, Channing. I’m all for anything that makes a bad day for the Florida Gators, but I really can’t think of a bigger dick move than waiting until you’re in the NFL and therefore immune from any consequences, and then spouting off about stuff that can only make trouble for your school. You know, the institution that put you in position to be where you are now?
I, too, think that the NCAA’s rules about this sort of thing are ridiculous. Unfortunately, you signed up to abide by those rules, Channing, in exchange for free tuition, room and board, and an opportunity to play college football. I also think it’s ridiculous that marijuana is illegal. I don’t smoke it, though, because it is. Same thing. You broke the rules. You got away with it. Congratulations.
So seriously. Stop being a dick. If a Georgia guy started airing this kind of crap out, I’d be outraged.
While I appreciate your point of view on this GD it also strikes me as a positive development when the truth comes out. The UGA season got ruined last year because its star player was suspended for 4 games. UGA lost 3 of those games and lost the first game he was back because he was not in “game ready” condition because he hadn’t played–a total of 4 losses you can attribute to his suspension, at least in part. Now we come to find out that our biggest rival had at least one player doing the same thing, not to mention all the tOSU players. Apparently this activity was widespread but the NCAA did nothing about it to anyone but UGA player AJ Green. Talk about selective enforcement.
Game-ready condition at 8,000 feet altitude, don’t forget. It was a double-whammy.
The whole “you signed up for these rules and need to abide by them” argument would be laughable were it not for the multiple times one encounters it during discussions such as this. What other option do these kids have? The NCAA has the market cornered as a result of the NFL policy requiring players be three or more years removed from high school.
There’s certainly the option of not accepting a scholarship to play college football.
I find it hard to be upset at anyone for telling the truth. It’s the lying that infuriates me. (Think of all the crap we could avoid in life if there was a 100% accurate lie detector. I’d be out of a job as a lawyer but it would be worth it.) Crowder is a douche because he cheated and lied all those years, not because he’s talking now. F#€! Florida and everything about them. If they were cheating, then they need to get caught. I don’t understand the support for these other schools who are stealing or buying wins and National Championships. Do you not see the connection? Or is it, you think it could be us so let’s circle the horses. It’s like witnesses who won’t testify but still want the police to “do something!”. Stop protecting scumbags!
Well, you can see above where I said I’m all for anything that makes a bad day for the University of Florida (though, I am sure nothing will come of this for them. I doubt Crowder will talk to any NCAA investigators).
I’m not saying that it’s bad when cheaters are caught cheating. I’ll applaud if something is found to be institutionally wrong at Florida and punished. I was making a comment on what I perceive to be something lacking in the character of this player, who is tossing off things now that can’t hurt himself, but could only hurt his former school. I will say this, though, if it turns out to be just like the AJ Green situation at Georgia, I don’t think there’s much to punish at Florida. Unless it can be proven that UF turned a blind eye to the practice of selling your athletic gear to boosters, I don’t see how it’s any different than AJ making an independent choice to sell his jersey. Certainly UGA wasn’t doing anything wrong in the case of AJ Green, it was all the player. As much as I want to see someone tie Florida’s hand behind it’s back, I’m not sure it’s warranted unless you can prove to me that they had an Ohio State-esque practice of looking the other way. Well, that’s fine, but it’s got to be true.
Rather than going into the nuances of how I “feel” or how in sympathy with the players I may be, there’s no way to make the sale of memorabilia extend to uniforms. Show me the contract that UGA signed with uniform providers that says they are player property. AJ’s was a trophy given by the University in celebration of winning a bowl game. Jerseys aren’t distributed to players for their ownership of the number. What happened to everyone’s logic just because AJ was an honest victim? You can’t mix all those player welfare thoughts into a bag, shake them up and willy-nilly declare that they should be able to sell school equipment to offset our feelings for players. Where would it stop? Show a marketing proposal that would fit such a leap from college player to entrepreneurial mogul and not create team dissention. As much as we would like to make certain player’s lives a wonderful paid trip, this is not the solution. Don’t let media bs that offers no solution (instead makes you grind your teeth in sympathy) get your gizzard in an uproar. Notice that not one of the media can give a reasoned proposal for ending this dilemma. They just put it out to crate angst and to promote the idea of paying players. They don’t have a viable answer for paying players either.
This is a tempest in a teapot caused by some idiot from FU. Who gives a crap?
You might be right, legally, but how are they able to walk away with them, if they are not actually their property?
Regardless, I don’t see why they cannot sell whatever property is legally theirs and/or solicit and receive licensing fees for the use of their names and uniform numbers. What is the argument against it, other than that the schools don’t want to share the dough?
“And in other news, Maxter ‘6-Star’ Baxter sold the jock strap he wore in his high school championship game to a consortium of Alabama fans for $588,000 on Signing Day, to be paid in 24 monthly installments of $24,500.”
Now write the legislation that distinguishes that activity from AJ’s, legally speaking.
The kids can sell their stuff any time they want. They just can’t remain amateur athletes. What’s so hard about this?
Ok. So why not give the ones whose names, numbers, and likenesses are used a share of the licensing revenues?
“The kids can sell their stuff any time they want. They just can’t remain amateur athletes. What’s so hard about this?”
BTW–what’s “so hard” about it is monitoring the activity, or we’d not be talking about this.
Yes, monitoring it is hard. But we were talking the principle of athletes selling stuff rather than the execution.
It’s a team sport. If the super-stars want a cut at the expense of the guys who block, then that’s another argument. But throwing a percentage at this group of players while that group players don’t get a cut invites lawsuits from 1,000 different angles.
I agree about the problems with NCAA amateurism. But the bigger problem is this — any attempt at a reasonable rule will be overrun by overzealous boosters and coaching ambition within 15 minutes of its passage.
In other words, why is the NCAA rule book so large? Us fans.
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