How much love will Georgia get with a Kickoff Classic win?

I likes a little blogger pong as much as the next guy.  Kyle King’s answers to a couple of questions I raised last week…

So here’s what I’m wondering this morning – if Georgia walks out of the Dome on 9/3 with a win, is it going to be brushed off, much like the 2005 results were? Will a Georgia win be seen as saying more about Boise State than Georgia?

Senator Blutarsky (July 27, 2011)The answers to the Senator’s questions, obviously, are: “Yes” and, “Yes.” Actually, the answers to the Senator’s questions are: “Hell, yeah” and, “Well, duh,” but we try to maintain a respectful tone around these parts.

Simply stated, the Boise St. Broncos stand to gain more by beating the Georgia Bulldogs than the Bulldogs stand to gain by beating the Broncos. This, by the way, is unbelievably, comically stupid, but that does not make it any the less so. Boise State has been demonstrably the better program in recent years, and the undeniable distinction in schedule strength attendant to playing in the SEC as opposed to the WAC does not change this fact in the slightest.

… raise a question in response that I think is best addressed in a reader poll.

Keep in mind that going into the Kickoff Classic, Boise State is expected to be anointed with a high preseason ranking – somewhere between fifth and tenth, I expect – and Georgia, um, not so high.  The Dawgs may quite possibly enter that game not ranked in the top 25, in fact.  So here’s my question:  if Georgia wins, what will the pollsters say about the two teams?  After all, if a Dawgs win is merely seen as a confirmation that Boise State is still a lesser program than an SEC squad coming off a losing season, shouldn’t the Broncos be severely punished in the polls for that perception?  The thing is, that’s a long way down after just one game.

Anyway, tell me what you think.

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28 responses to “How much love will Georgia get with a Kickoff Classic win?

  1. 'matsdawg

    I can hear it now from the talking heads – “This is in reality a home game for a down- but not out – SEC team. If this had been played on the blue carpet, the outcome might have been different.”

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  2. Hogbody Spradlin

    I voted for Boise to stay ahead of Georgia if Georgia wins. It’s a vote based on poll watching experience. The polls very rarely go out on a limb for or against anybody, even more so the first or second game.

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  3. Chuck

    Voted for UGA, BUT it’s a vote that depends upon a win similar to 2005. If we win by a whisker instead of overall domination, I reserve the right to change my vote. Problem is, we could essentially dominate for a half and then we might back off a little, and well, you know….even if we win it won’t look that great to the pollsters.

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    • Macallanlover

      And that is the key point: unless UGA wins convincingly Boise and UGA will be close ranked in the high teens after week one. If UGA wins by two TDs or more, the Dawgs will pass Boise. With a disclaimer that a poll after Week 1 is barely more meaningful than the pre-season poll, there aren’t enough meaningful tests on opening week by the highly regarded teams to cause much shake-up regardless who wins. In other words, voters are not likely to change much on their ballots outside some minor adjustments for the results LSU/Oregon and UGA/BSU games.

      I expect Boise to begin the season ranked in the Top 7, and both LSU and Oregon to be in the Top 10. UGA will be between 20-25 in at least one of the polls, more likely the Coach’s Poll. If UGA wins by 3-10 points, I see both UGA and Boise in the high teens the next week. Should UGA win the first two, I see them moving into the 12-15 spot. Naturally, I would love for UGA to beat Boise in the Dome on September 3, but the game that will determine the success/failure of our season to me is prevailing against the Cocks, at home, on September 10. Winning that game will give me a strong feeling that we will back in the Dome in early December…..and that is our objective every year.

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      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        Cogent analysis. That said, who really gives a sh!t what the polls say that early anyway. Just win the SEC East, get into the SECCG and win that and everything else will take care of itself.

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      • Keese

        Dawgs will be either 2-0 or 0-2 starting the season. Momentum is always key with GA teams. If they get some swagger watch out. Boise state game is most important game all year, period.

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        • Macallanlover

          I don’t disagree that winning can get Big Mo started with athletes this age, but I can’t go that far and call Boise the most important game all year…not even close. There are also those teams who respond well to a punch in the face and play harder after a loss. Every group/team is a new box of chocolates. That said, I like your idea of winning the opener, but I am not going to throw dirt on them if they come up a little short and look good.

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  4. Skeptic Dawg

    Given the fact that the Dawgs will be ranked in the 20’s at best, and realisticly unranked, heading into the game, a W over BSU will not vault them over the Broncos. A W vs. BSU and USC, maybe. Neither are very likely at this point.

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  5. This is a bit off the topic of your question, but here is a question I was pondering over the weekend………..if UGA were to win (and I’m not predicting a win, I’m just dealing in hypotheticals), would a 2005-style beatdown benefit us more in the eyes of the pundits, or would a close, hard fought victory be better? In a weird way, I think a beatdown might actually be the worse outcome between the two, though obviously a million times better than a loss. But if we come out and wax them, I think THAT is what will make everyone discount it as “See, Boise State is just all hype”, and make it more likely for the media & voters to brush off the victory. However, if it’s a hard fought game where we have to show a lot of grit to win, and BSU plays well, that actually might look better to all the talking heads.

    Granted, I’ll take a win any way we can get it……..between losing, beating them in a close game, or blowing them out, the latter is by far the least likely to happen.

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    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      I think a total beatdown of Boise by UGA establishes that the Dawgs are back and would send waves of fear through the SEC East.

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  6. If UGA wins, they’ll both be in the teens somewhere. I could see Georgia 17th and BSU 18th, but it would be very close.

    I can’t see BSU losing the 2nd toughest game on their schedule – as perceived in preseason rankings (TCU) – and maintaining a very high ranking at 0-1.

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  7. haws1178

    I don’t think BSU will drop far at all for the simple fact that out west has to have their token teams. With the fallen programs of USC and Ohio st now they are left to hang their hopes on BSU

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  8. Nate Dawg

    I voted Boise b/c they’ll be soo highly ranked coming in, relative to us in the polls, IF we even are ranked. I think they’d drop 5 to 7 spots – most likely putting them outside the top 10 – and then we’d show up on the radar somewhere b/t 16 and 20 (assuming we come in unranked).
    And I’d just like to say 2 things: playing a WAC schedule and playing an SEC schedule is the MAIN difference in these two programs, and to some extent, it’s the only thing the talking heads really care about. Hince the reason there is even an argument on whether or not Boise deserves to be talked about with the big boys. So “demonstrably” the better program? How would anyone know?
    And 2nd – I watched a replay of the ’07 Bama game last night. Georgia has undeniably the best looking road uni’s in the nation. The red helmets on the bright white jersey then set off by the silver britches with the black stripe down the side. Yes, I said undeniably and that’s what I mean.

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    • OKDawg

      I agree. I see BSU falling to #11-15 and UGA rising to #16-20 should we beat them. As we have seen ad nauseum, a low preseason ranking handcuffs you even if you win (see Auburn 2004).

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      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        Whoever wins the SECCG will be in the BCSNCG. You can take that to the bank.

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        • Tommy Tuberville's undefeated season

          You’re darn right! Wait….

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          • Mayor of Dawgtown

            That was 7 years ago. USC, Texas and tOSU are now in the doldrums and ain’t gonna be playin’ in any big game. There really isn’t a good team in the Big 10. There is really only 1 good team in the Pac 10+2. There is only one good team in the Big 12-2. The ACC is, well, the ACC. The SEC is loaded with good teams. The last 5 SEC Champions in a row have been in the BCSNC Game and won it. One thing is absolutely certain: The SEC Champion WILL play in the 2011 BCSNC Game. I repeat, you can take that to the bank. The only issues are which SEC team will that be and who the opponent (taken from a very small universe of teams) will be.

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  9. Cousin Eddie

    I decided on Boise, the voters will leave Boise highly ranked due to their schedule, end of the year the worst they should finish is 10-2. That lets the voter beat on thier chest as saying see we might not have been right but we were close.

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  10. Yurdle

    We’ll be ranked higher, if we win and we start ranked.

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  11. HK

    Preseason rankings are good for nothing but selling magazines and getting hits on web pages.

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  12. zdub

    BSU will be ranked ahead of us even if we happen to win the game.

    It’s a combination of our low (unranked, or 20-25) ranking and their high ranking. There’s no way they will fall far enough to put us over them. And honestly that doesn’t matter at all.

    If we beat BSU, we will have beaten the better of the 2 teams who walked onto the field the night of Sept 3rd. That is to say, I don’t expect us to win but if we do we still won’t be considered the “better team” by most folks in the country.

    All we have to gain is the satisfaction that we ended BSU’s title run before it could even get started (plus a jump in the polls). Other than that, we won’t get respect from just beating BSU. However, beating BSU and SCar in back-to-back weeks would garner much more respect nationally and locally.

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  13. Matt

    The Dawgs should be higher with a win.

    But the blog poll question is what will happen. What will happen and what should happen aren’t the same.

    Broncos maintain a higher rating after they lose due to pollster bias in favor of pre-season polls.

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  14. Scott W.

    Unfortunately the Kickoff Classic holds a stiffer penalty for failure rather than accolades for success. I do agree with the sentiment above that a hard fought win will garner more respect than a blowout for the Dawgs and the opposite is true for the Broncos.

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  15. Jack

    But it doesn’t matter in the end. The point is that a loss will do huge damage to the program and Richt. You have to build a house one brick at a time, and the “Boise Brick” is crucial, though it will never be more than a brick as a win.

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  16. Cojones

    MY, my, my. This was a question about pollsters wasn’t it?

    Two things that pollsters do. They subjectively place people where they like them and they play to the audience.
    Depending on which poll, my answer was still, Georgia will be higher. Supposition: the pundits will hedge their bet at the start of the season and place Boise St more near 10th than they are now. Next they will try to rank UGA because they want the game to be played between “two natl-ranked teams”. After the game and if UGA wins, they will move on to the next’s week game to rank’em.

    Boise St falls well out of the top ten and UGA goes up toward SC in order that the next ESPN game will be played between “two top-ranked teams, both of whom are in the SEC”. So, if the poll is by ESPN the above will apply. But, “Not so fast!”. If the poll is the Coach’s poll, anything can happen. Boise St is not their favorite baby nor conference. Any thing can happen to them in that poll. And UGA has to earn great appreciation from old firehorse coaches that don’t think like ESPN. We could be anywhere in such a poll. The USA-Today poll would put us above Boise St.

    Therefore, I picked Georgia.

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  17. Hobnail_Boot

    I don’t care either way so long as we beat South Carolina the next week.

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  18. Vincent

    I know it’s a summer time questionairre but let’s beat BSU and USCe first, THEN worry about polls

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