“What do you need to win?”

Dean Legge compares Georgia’s last two athletic directors’ management priorities.  I found this part telling:

… When Georgia lost to LSU on a questionable unsportsmanlike penalty in 2009 freedom of information requests confirmed that Evans didn’t complain about the call to the SEC in any formal way. McGarity wrote the conference to complain and called the SEC out in the press for what he thought was unacceptable officiating in the Auburn football game and Tennessee basketball game – a move that no doubt let coaches, players, donors and fans know he was serious about being an advocate for the Bulldogs.

One day soon we may need to reorder the Bulldog calendar around a seminal moment.  How does Before Red Panties (BRP) and After Red Panties (ARP) work for you?

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51 responses to ““What do you need to win?”

  1. heyberto

    Sounds like a new Lexicon entry to me.

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    • H-Town Dawg

      +1,000

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    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      I actually wrote DE a letter the day after the LSU-UGA game and asked him to file a formal complaint with the SEC about the bogus “celebration” penalty. There also was an injury in that game to Caleb King (broken jaw) caused by an LSU DE coming off the ground and spearing King in the face with the top of his helmet while King was being tackled/stood up by another LSU D-lineman and was defenseless. I sent DE a picture of that (the LSU player completely airborn and with the top of his helmet in contact with King’s face) and asked that he , as UGA AD, make a complaint to the SEC about that, too. He did nothing about either. The guy was a waste of space. Every UGA fan should read Legge’s article if only to understand the profound effect that having a bad AD can have. Thank goodness for red panties, indeed!

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      • heyberto

        I really have turned 180 degrees on Damon Evans. I really thought he was a great AD and what hated to see him go (despite the fact that I felt he had to). It took Greg McGarity for me to see how an AD should be. All the ridicule I endured at the hands of opposing fans over ‘red panties’ is now totally worth it. Someone in a previous entry on this blog responded to a post i made about McGarity asked me ‘why do you love McGarity so much, he hasn’t done anything yet’. That answer resides in posts like this… it’s the little things that say so much about how McGarity operates and i couldn’t be happier.

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  2. Dawg Stephen

    how about BC (being complacent) and AD (after debacle)

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    • 81Dog

      it wasn’t a debacle for us; it was a miracle. Maybe UGA fans should erect a shrine on Roswell Road to commemorate the Miracle of the Red Panties.

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  3. JaxDawg

    We finally have ourselves a competent AD. Enjoy the ride folks.

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  4. I’m sure our EDBS friends will like the ARP ARP ARP reference.

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  5. BeerMoney

    You just never know when calling out bad officiating will win you a call later on down the line. Just like a baseball manager or basketball coach being tossed from a game for arguing calls. You know you won’t win this one, but maybe, just maybe, they swing your way next time.

    That ’09 LSU unsportsmanlike celebration call still pisses me off.

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    • Not filing a formal complaint with the conference pisses me off more.

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      • King Jericho

        Could he have been taking the passive aggressive approach with his own poor officiating? Really letting them see how they like it?

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      • JBJ

        Agreed.

        I don’t know enough detail to ascertain if DE was a good AD or not, I cringe when I see people on here saying he was doing a bad job now that they see how great McGarity is at the job.

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        • Bevo

          Good point. Same here.

          That applies to most of our fan base, yet many will opine. Similar situation with strength and conditioning.

          Funny how so many are ripping Van Hal and praising the terrific results under JTIII. Similar talk on AD.

          I have hope that both are upgrades. Too early and too little info to tell right now.

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      • Reptillicide

        Damon was too busy promoting Georgia’s “national brand,” whatever the hell that means.

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      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        +1,000,000.

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    • D.N. Nation

      That ’09 LSU unsportsmanlike celebration call still pisses me off.

      This. You know, Richt has lost a sloggy, last-minute game to LSU before (2003), but I got over that one. Reasonably easy, actually.

      Not 2009. Congrats, Marc Curles, I’ll remember your name forever.

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      • adam

        the three ref names i can easily recall are:
        marc curles
        penn wagers
        and ted valentine.

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        • Mayor of Dawgtown

          Don’t forget Rogers Redding and Bobby Gaston, former SEC head referees and Georgia Tech grads. Curles is a Tech grad, too.

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      • James Stephenson

        Those damned three missed FGs. Just think, would Saban be considered such a Genius if he loses that game, because of FGs that should have been made? He does not make it to the NC game that year and then he got torched the next year at GA.

        It takes luck to win the NC, as that one game can attest too.

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  6. Zdawg

    That’s a good read. Exactly the kind of active leadership UGA needs.

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  7. Orl. Dawg

    Honestly, I thought Evans was doing a good job while at the helm; and a number of posters thought the same thing. Now that he’s gone and changes have been implemented, you see how badly he was performing. I really like what McGarity’s doing. He’s asking the coaches what they need to win and helping them get it. If the coaches don’t win, they have no one to blame but themselves. I really like the direction; and I think/hope we see dividends starting September 3……

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    • I said this exact same thing to my Dad this weekend, we were talking about McGarity and I said that until he was gone, I always thought Evans had been doing a really good job. Now……….not so much. And I agree with the rest of your comment.

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      • What does this say about Damon’s predecessor?

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        • Mayor of Dawgtown

          It says something very bad. It says that VD had to have known what a douchebag DE was yet VD still recommended that the University hire him. I have felt for years that VD has held a grudge about being run off from the AD’s job and I am convinced that he recommended that DE be hired as an act of revenge. VD worked around the guy for years and knew what a POS that DE really was yet got him hired as AD to get even for VD’s dismissal. Now that his kid got the HC job at UT the veneer of caring about UGA has even disappeared.

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  8. DawgPhan

    Evans seems overly focused on the business side of things. He left an Athletic Department flush with cash, very little debt and now has someone calling the shots that knows how to focus all those resources on winning football games.

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  9. I try to think about it without the rose colored, um, lenses.

    While it does raise some concerns to hear that a formal complaint was never made to the conference, there is nothing about any SEC officiating over the years that tells me it would have done one whit of good. Frankly, it makes me far more concerned with the conference then it does with Evans, and I don’t know enough about how the conference handles such things to lay the blame all on him.

    And when it does come to Evans, you’ve got to take the good with the bad with every hire in a leadership position. McGarity seems to be making all the right moves now, but so did Evans not so many years ago. Who’s to say Evans wasn’t focusing on aspects of the Athetic Association that were percieved to be lacking when he got the job?

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  10. Jacob D.

    Holy cOW, NAME 1 POSITIVE THING mCgARITY HAS DONE FOR THE PROGRAM SO FAR THAT LED TO A WIN.

    nOTHING.

    MOST OF HIS STUFF IS FOCUSED ON SCHEDULE IN 2021.

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  11. Jacob D.

    MUST HAVE ASKED LAST YEAR…

    WHAT DO YOU NEED TO LOSE?

    RICHT’S WORST SEASON IN 25 YEARS OF COACHING.

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  12. Irishdawg

    As blood boiling as Curles’s glaring f*ck up at LSU was, Penn Wager’s calls make me even angrier. His are so blatant and one sided that I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if he was owned by mob bosses. God, I want to break his jaw just writing about that dick.

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    • Jim

      Who was the ref that blew the jasper sanks fumble in the 2000 tech game (or was it ’99)? That guy had a history of screwing us

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      • BeerMoney

        Al Ford. He will forever be on my most wanted list. Never left a game in tears before until that day. Haven’t since then either.

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        • Mayor of Dawgtown

          Ford is now a TV ref for SEC games including some that involve UGA. To finish the story, VD complained to the SEC about the Sanks call by Ford and he and the rest of his crew got suspended from doing postseason games that season because of it. I have been really suspicious of some of the bad calls coming out of the TV review the last few seasons, haven’t you?

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          • 69Dawg

            Everybody wants to blame the “celebration” for the SEC refs screwing us but it really goes back to the suspended crew after the Sanks call. We have been subjected to Georgia Tech guys running the refs for 30 years. I look forward to Steve Shaw because he was always the best ref in the SEC. The TV guys operate on one rule do not make the on field guys look bad. Therefore they hardly ever overturn calls on the field unless it is so obvious that it would make them look stupid. Even then Al Ford overturns nothing he was and remains an asshat.

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            • Mayor of Dawgtown

              The incompetent buffoonery that is SEC officiating could only exist with the active support of the SEC Commissioner’s office. I remain convinced that the SEC is fixing games and using the refs to do it. Just my opinion.

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  13. Cojones

    Well said, Cousin Pat.

    I ain’t here to bury Cesar, just to inflict more pain (Ron Reagan vs Cesar Chavez). This is not another dig at Evans , but to demonstrate how judgements of the correct individuals sometimes escape us. One writer was referring to Evan’s predecessor as the cause, but wait a minute.Rewind history. Dooley had an assistant he was cultivating for AD after he retired. That plan was truncated by Adams when he didn’t grant another year that was requested by Dooley. Maybe Dooley saw that his assistant, Evans , needed another year of a guiding hand. Adams didn’t grant it, belittled the legendary icon in front of alums who didn’t appreciate it and he installed Evans before he was completely ready. Before intoning Dooley’s name in a muck-raking manner, believe that there are MANY pissed off alums concerning that move. It was foul and will mark Adams’s presidency, because as a great comedian said, “I ain’t gone never forget”.

    In your zeal for McGarity , don’t smudge his and Dooley”s name with Pome de Rue.

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  14. 81Dog

    Damon Evans was a success as AD if you consider the criteria for success as 1. athletic department making money, and 2. jumping on command of Mike Adams.

    Long as the football program was generating mountains of cash that he could get his oleaginous mitts on, Mike Adams could care less about wasting resources on the actual program. If losing games started costing him money, then he’d have done something, or told Damon to so something.

    Making money is great, but Greg McGarity wants to make money while UGA fields winning teams. He’s willing to spend money to maximize the chances of winning. If UGA football wins, it’s going to make tons of money. Of course, Tthe LA Clippers make tons of money, too. Why should Donald Sterling care if he wins? He might have to spend more money to win. Maybe we could send Mike Adams to the Clippers. Adams is a weasel. Damon was his puppet. Damon wasnt a disaster, and maybe some day he’d have grown into a better, grownup AD. Greg McGarity’s not a puppet, he’s already a grownup AD, and he has a better template to follow than Damon did. Good for him, and good for UGA.

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    • H. Randolph Holder

      +eleventybillion!

      I never understood the argument that VD chose DE as successor. DE was a lap dog for Adams. And lest we forget, DE fired many of the Dooley faithful in the AA once he assumed the helm. I don’t think the Atlanta papers reported that, so how are any of you to know. I think Dooley made the recommendation of DE to bury the hatchet to try and save some folks. Perhaps he saved some, but certainly not all.

      Also, about that plane mentioned the article, the decision to purchase that was not made by either DE or Frank Crumley. That came from Adams through the Athletic Board. You have no idea how much of that crap took place over the last several years. See, when Adams lost (or cut ties with) the UGA Foundation, he lost all access to their money. So, he jumped on the AA budget and DE let him do it. DE was about to get paid for his servitude so it was highly unlikely we would stand up to him. That and he liked the young girls (which is obvious) and found it much easier to pick-up as the AD as opposed to just Damon.

      McGarity is a stronger person with a better pedigree. He knows what he is doing and has a better reputation with the NCAA than perhaps DE would have ever had. I think that even the Athletic Board knew that Adams was reaching the end of his tenure and pushed for getting the right guy as opposed to what Adams wanted. Just my speculation. To further speculate, Adams retires in less than 2 years.

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  15. W Cobb Dawg

    It hasn’t been mentioned much, but I thought McGarity made a terrific choice with the hire of consultant Mike Glazier to assist in the Jarvis Jones issue. McGarity learned the hard way with AJ last season – don’t sit back and wait for the ncaa to hash things out. UGA has nearly unlimited resources, and using them to steer the Jones case to a desireable outcome was proactive. Well done.

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  16. Thanks – as always – you nailed it!

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  17. Normaltown Mike

    Yeah, but which one is friends with Charles Barkley?

    I mean, Bark’s on TNT and stuff. And Damon got to hang with him.

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  18. Tess

    When I saw it was McGarity meeting with the press to answer questions about the latest scooter incident, my first thought is that two years ago, Richt would have been expected to take time out of practice to do that. It’s a perfect example of something that Evans would have decided was too boring for him to do, as is, sadly, taking care of issues with the NCAA.

    As others have said, so long as the money was rolling in, Adams was happy, and the specifics (wins, losses, suspensions) didn’t seem to matter to him. I find that appalling for any AD, but he was supposed to be a Dawg.

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  19. Mzatdawg

    ARP is a good place to be. I like both terms.

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  20. 2011-dawgtrain

    al ford was the straw , that sealed donnan’s fate.

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