Mudcat’s car rides again.

Orson Charles gets nabbed by Athens’ finest for DUI and “driving minimum speed”.

At least we don’t have to fret over the length of his suspension.



Filed under Crime and Punishment, Georgia Football

25 responses to “Mudcat’s car rides again.

  1. Spike

    Ok, the DUI charge I get. But, what the hell is “driving minimum speed” all about?

  2. Hogbody Spradlin

    Since he’s declared for the draft, do we get any Fulmer Cup points, or a sanctimonius Red and Black editorial?

  3. Krautdawg

    O.C.G.A. § 40-6-184(a)(2) is the code section for “Minimum Speed in Left-Hand Lanes:”

    “On roads, streets, or highways with two or more lanes allowing for movement in the same direction, no person shall continue to operate a motor vehicle in the most left-hand lane at less than the maximum lawful speed limit once such person knows or should reasonably know that he is being overtaken in such lane from the rear by a motor vehicle traveling at a higher rate of speed, except when such motor vehicle is preparing for a left turn.”

    If they picked up every old lady who did this on the Athens perimeter, they’d really have nothing else to do all day.

    • UGAfoo

      Wonder how fast he was going (or slow in this case).

    • King Jericho

      “…at less than the maximum lawful speed limit…”

      So you’re either going exactly the speed limit or you’re breaking the law? I mean, it’s a limit after all, not a speed suggestion.

      • HK

        The left lane is for passing. Passing on the right is incredibly dangerous (illegal? if not it should be), so it has to be this way. Police can’t pull you over for speeding unless you’re going 11+ over the limit. This is a good law, especially since Orson is no longer on the roster.

        • Mayor of Dawgtown

          ^^This. The problem of slow drivers hanging out in the fast lane on Interstate Highways in and around Atlanta (particularly I-285) is rampant. Cars start passing on the right, drivers in the fast lane try to change lanes to the right and wrecks happen. The person who causes the problem is totally clueless, drives on as if nothing happened and leaves the scene without any repercussions. I have never even heard of someone getting a ticket for this in Atlanta or surrounding counties.

        • The General

          HK: “Police can’t pull you over for speeding unless you’re going 11+ over the limit.”

          This is not accurate. The police can pull you over for any amount over the limit, but local police cannot prosecute you for speeding at less than 10mph over the limit unless it is in a school or work zone. That is, a stop to “warn” someone they are going 5mph over the limit, which then leads to a DUI arrest, is perfectly valid and will not get the DUI thrown out. The 10mph restriction on prosecution only applies to local law enforcement (i.e., city or county police departments, sheriff’s departments, etc.). It was passed as a regulation against small towns using speed traps to generate more revenue than other towns. As a statewide agency, Georgia State Patrol is exempt from that restriction and can prosecute for any amount over the limit, regardless of work/school zone. In practice, however, it’s not a wise use of resources, even for GSP, to pull over a driver going less than 10-over because they’ll miss several cars going 15+ over while they have the under 10-over driver pulled over. Of course, if the less-than-10-over driver is black, brown, and/or plays football for UGA, the resource-allocation logic goes out the window, and they’ll get pulled every time.

    • Normaltown Mike

      I live off Prince Avenue and the worst are the blue hairs that pile in from the outer counties to visit Doctor So and So.

  4. HahiraDawg

    I’ll add this: several of the guys were glad to hear him declare when they told me it was obvious b4 the Outback due to his pre-game behavior. He wasn’t the most popular guy down there or after. That said, he’s a Dawg and I’m rooting for him to have success in life, hopefully a long and productive NFL career.

  5. fuelk2

    Quick – someone come up with a clever joke connecting the “driving minimum speed” charge with Orson’s 40 time. I know there’s one there, but I just can’t come up with it.

  6. Macallanlover

    First, I would love to see the “minimum driving speed” law for driving less than the speed limit in the left lane and not yielding to faster traffic spread to all states, and be enforced. Forcing people to pass on the right/blind side is dangerous and should be ticketed.

    Second, I agree this was dumb on OC’s part, but the DUI laws in this country are over the top. The current limit of .08 was driven by over zealous advocates and government officials who want to tell everyone how to live their lives. I have no problem with a ticket for .08, but I think it should be a lesser charge that people who are REALLY drunk, like those over .12 and up. Before some accuse me of not being sympathetic about the issue of those endangered when people drive an drink, I get it, drinking and driving is less safe at any level. But you can get just as dead by people who have not been near a glass of wine. We need to distinguish between those who are truly impaired from a 100 pound woman who had two glasses of wine at dinner.

    I say the above with zero knowledge of what OC’s level was, just that I would take drunk driving more seriously if I knew the violator was drunk. When I see a person charged I wonder if they were really a danger and a fool, or not. I worked with a breath analyzer for a while and was amazed about what .08 really was. We don’t need to arrest people at .08, give them a warning, a smaller ticket, or allow someone to drive them home. There are degrees of drunk and endangering behavior, OC may not have been much a threat, he seemed tho have clear enough judgement to drive slowly and stay in a lane.

    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      +1. It has actually gotten worse than that Mac. Cops can technically charge you, prosecutors prosecute you and judges sentence you for DUI “less safe” as far down as .04. All the cop has to do is testify “his eyes were glazed and glassy” etc. .04 is about 2 beers for a 200 lb man and he can feel absolutely sober. If you are going to drive you really need to not drink at all in today’s legal environment.

  7. Cojones

    It’s too sad to poke fun at. This will affect his future in a big way. I guess we are lucky that Murray wasn’t with him. It’s probably not too far fetched to say he may have been wined and dined by pro scouts or someone else who wants a piece of him in the future. How could anyone who cared about him let him drive?

    He kept his nose clean for three years and up until he walked into his new home. Somebody who gives a crap should get him a good lawyer. It’s not a time for us to throw him out with the trash. Whispered words from last year only makes other players look jealous.

    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      +1. At least he was driving slowly. It’s not like he got behind the wheel drunk and drove 85 mph.

  8. Cojones

    Too late on the Red and Black. The word “former” doesn’t appear anywhere in their headline.

  9. 69Dawg

    It’s surprising but a great many impaired drivers are caught because they are driving too slow or too careful. II have known several that were caught for that very reason. Seems the judge should take that into consideration. It’s not like some drunk that thinks he’s 8 feet tall and bullet proof going 90+ on the wrong side of the road.

  10. MT

    If you’ve been drinking and are pulled over, never consent to a Breathalyzer, never consent to the field sobriety tests, answer everything asked in a simple ‘yes or no’. Don’t give the police the evidence to hang you up. Either you’ll get a plea offer for reckless driving, or with a good lawyer can get the charge dismissed/not guilty.

    • Barney Fife

      But what if you take your shirt off at the bar and then wreck into a parked car? Ole Perry Mason over here.

    • Cojones

      They have the right to take your license when you refuse and not to give it back until judgement day. They still can arrest you, throw you in the can and charge you court costs for all services involved. It don’t make a crap about good lawyers. Lawyers just minimize the damage at other corners and the judge can find you guilty almost by inference. I have two friends who have gone through more than one arrest , each had one when they weren’t moving. Happened in differing states. One went to sleep at a traffic light two blocks from where he lived. The other dodged a dog that ran across in front of him in a downpour and ended with his right front wheel in the ditch; – fifty feet from his front door. A car passing by didn’t stop to ask if he needed help, but rather called the cops to come out in the country to arrest him instead.

      Once you are caught, anything can happen. Some groups make their living “rehabbing ” you and have a stake in arrest and conviction for their corporate bottom line. When I lived in Ca your license had the body weight/ # of beers graphed on the back. That’s fair. They don’t wait to pounce like a lion on highway wildebeasts. I was stopped at about the same time of the morning as Orson for “suspected” speeding (I had slowed down before he came up to get three readings, another civil approach in Ca) and he smelled liquor. I told him truthfully how much I had consumed, he gave me the-side-of-the-highway sobriety test and handed my license back, telling me to drive carefully for the remainder of my journey. No breath-a-lyzer needed. It was a wakeup call to learn and mind state laws about drinking and driving. If I had been guilty, I would still be in jail in Ca. An IRS friend of mine was caught changing lanes there when the cop thought lane change was unwarranted. When she showed him her badge, he handcuffed her and threw her facedown into the back seat. She blew .085. She had to serve weekends for 6 month in the largest women’s prison in the state It was her first offense for anything. Her admonition to me “Never drive in Ca if you have any idea you may be NEAR .08”.

      I feel badly for anyone caught with too much alcohol in their system in a society that tolerates drinking. Although the Mayor has a point about .08, I feel worse when someone is maimed or killed because of alcohol. Drinking and driving responsibly comes with the license, but we don’t have a test for what “responsibly” is.

      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        Actually, if you read my post more closely, the “Mayor’s point” was: If you are going to drive, don’t drink at all.

  11. Indemnitor

    Hmm – reuben is his middle name ? I dont know if I would reveal that to the officers or just take the additional charge for failing to provide it . That would get some serious cred in the jail though .
    Q :”What are you in for ?”
    A: ” Driving minimum speed and failing to provide my middle name ”
    Q: {steps back} “Damn Dawg- thats hard core..i guess youll be here for a while”