Phil Steele’s 2012 Preseason All-SEC teams

Without any further ado, here they are.

COMMENTS

  • As to Georgia, if you blink fast, you’ll miss that Steele only has a total of three Dawgs on all four of his offensive squads:  Murray, Crowell and King.  That is sobering.  It’s a better story on defense, as the Dawgs tally eight total, including three first-teamers.  (I was going to bitch about Ogletree being third team until I saw Clowney only made second team, so I’ll just shut up.)  I’m not surprised at the Dawgs being skunked on special teams – heck, they had everybody on last year’s list and look where that got ’em.
  • More broadly, it’s interesting that Steele left Tyler Bray off his list entirely.  And it’s probably because of the injury, but in my humble opinion Justin Hunter’s a first teamer all the way.
  • TAMU placed five offensive players on the list and two defensive players.  Missouri:  two on offense, two on defense.  For comparison purposes, that’s better than Kentucky, Vanderbilt and Mississippi did (each with two) and similar to Mississippi State (four) and Auburn (five), and Tennessee’s and South Carolina’s (somewhat surprisingly low) six.
  • For all the talk about how Corch left the cupboard bare for Muschamp, Florida has nine players on the list.
  • And you know you want to know this.  Total offensive and defensive players:  LSU 13, Alabama 12.

I’ll probably have more after I chew on it some.

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UPDATE:  Year2 does all the comparative math I was too lazy to do.  With nice looking charts, to boot.

19 Comments

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19 responses to “Phil Steele’s 2012 Preseason All-SEC teams

  1. Newt

    At first glance, my question is… Where is Shawn Williams?

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    • Gravidy

      You beat me to it. I won’t complain about Georgia getting eight members of its defense on the list, but where is Shawn Williams? I would have put him ahead of several of the players that made the list.

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      • Cojones

        And we will rely on him heavily at season beginning. Think Seth put him at 4th necessary spot this year.

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    • OKDawg

      Ditto this. I will be shocked if he is not 2nd or 3rd team by season’s end.

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  2. Sanford222View

    I am a bit surprised Malcom Mitchell didn’t make considering T. King did at WR. I am assuming it is due to questions whether he will play much offense this year versus CB. I am guessing he is back at WR after Game 2.

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    • Hackerdog

      I think the injuries hurt him. But I agree that he is certainly one of the top 12 receivers in the conference.

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  3. Duron Carter is 3rd team WR. He may not even be on the team!

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  4. Rebar

    This should be good bulletin board material!

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  5. Go Dawgs!

    Tyler Wilson? What, exactly, has Arkansas ever done besides being vastly overrated by virtue of being the third best team in the West last year and trailing Texas A&M and Ole Miss late in games?

    My money’s on Chris Conley being a first or second teamer in the All-SEC team that matters… the POSTseason All-SEC team.

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    • Go Dawgs!

      Also, Da’Rick Rogers first team?! I suppose it’s fairly safe to assume that he won’t be missing any playing time for discipline, on account of jurist Dooley being soft, but he’s one of the three best receivers in the league? Even if you told me that I only get Malcom Mitchell for two-thirds of my team’s snaps after the Missouri game, I’m still taking him before Rogers.

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      • Go Dawgs!

        re: the Senator’s comment that Florida’s got nine players on the pre-SEC team despite having the cupboard left bare by the Corch.
        Let’s not forget that John Brantley ended up on some preseason all-SEC lists last year, too. Sometimes, the uniform you’re wearing matters.

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      • Macallanlover

        I agree, (Rogers wouldn’t even be on my team roster, for many reasons) there are several more talented receivers in the SEC than duh ric, at least one on his own team. Don’t know why PS selected him on the first team. His stats alone weren’t that impressive so when you deduct for the problems/questions he brings he falls short.

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  6. I have followed Phil Steele’s predictions or “guess” on Georgia for the past 5 or 6 years. He seem to have over or underrated Georgia most of the time, quite similar to Athlon. Or is it a case of Georgia not answering the call.

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    • Cojones

      Actually, I think he likes us. Can’t excuse him for leaving Herrera off. As subs, Herrera and Gilliard played as well as UGA “stars” they replaced. Why else would we have full confidence with them in the game?

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  7. ETennDawg

    Da’rick isnt even the best WR on his team. Not sure how he’s a 1st teamer. His numbers changed dramatically after Hunter’s injury. When teams only had him to worry about, he became the child he really is.

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  8. Dave

    No Washington on defense? Not even on the 4th team? What’s the thinking there?

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  9. MA

    Inspired by the Year2 breakdown; I’ve redone the offense and defensive numbers, changing the math slightly (8/4/2/1, wherein each level is “twice” the points of the one below; thus, two second-teamers get the same points as one first-teamer [instead of two third-teamers being equivalent to one first-teamer]). This generates a list that separates the levels a little more clearly:

    OFFENSE
    34 Arkansas
    32 Alabama
    19 A&M
    17 LSU
    15 Tennessee
    13 Auburn
    12 Georgia
    12 SC
    8 Kentucky
    5 Florida
    4 Missouri
    4 Vandy
    4 Miss State
    1 Ole Miss

    DEFENSE
    35 LSU
    32 Alabama
    32 Georgia
    17 Florida
    14 SC
    11 Miss State
    9 A&M
    9 Auburn
    7 Arkansas
    6 Tennessee
    4 Missouri
    3 Ole Miss
    1 Kentucky
    0 Vandy

    TOTAL (O+D)
    64 Alabama
    52 LSU
    44 Georgia
    41 Arkansas
    28 A&M
    26 SC
    22 Auburn
    22 Florida
    21 Tennessee
    15 Miss State
    9 Kentucky
    8 Missouri
    4 Vandy
    4 Ole Miss

    These numbers make more sense to me; the top six teams are in the same order, but there’s a clearer difference between Alabama and LSU (and between those teams and UGA/Ark, which are even farther ahead of A&M/SC). In the middle, Auburn fares better in this scale, with Tennessee falling behind them and Florida. Kentucky gets a slight boost over the other bottom three by having one first-teamer, which none of the others have.

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    • Cojones

      I think it is a better look at the teams, but I’m sure Steele thought that two 3rd teamers were indeed equivalent to a 1st teamer (his valuation of players was too close to separate as head and shoulders above someone placed on 1st team).

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  10. ugalaw06

    Shawn Williams is a better safety than Rambo. Steele’s just looking at the number of interceptions Rambo had last year. Anyone with a functioning set of eyes could see that Williams was the best player in our secondary.

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