One can sense the disappointment from the Red & Black that Ogletree still isn’t in school.
Filed under Crime and Punishment, Georgia Football
Tagged as The Red & Black Rides Again!
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
He hard is it to behave for four months and cash in on the biggest payday of your life? Did Alec learn nothing from Orson Charles?
Seems like he learned a lot from Orson.
Nice to see that Charles is back at UGa working toward finishing his degree. Perhaps when Tree grows up some he will finish as well.
I am not one who felt Ogletree was a first rounder in the upcoming draft anyway, as good as he was on lateral pursuit his taking on the straight ahead run and pass coverage was pretty weak. But I hope his behavioral issues do have an impact on his draft position. Whether you wore the Red and Black or not, actions should have consequences. I will join everyone in hoping he gets help for his substance control problems but this young man should not be pitied, he has been given a chance to succeed greatly and is choosing to squander those opportunities.
Just curious…. do you have sons?
I do. I kind of think like Macallan.
I do too.
Alec has issues and needs counseling. Now whether he will accept it is another issue. Dude is a couple of tokes from going Honey Badger. Like I tell my boys and my dad told me “There are always consequences. the only question is when.”
Problem is, a lot of us, myself included, will often tell Mr Trabek we would much rather take our choices from the Painful Experience column rather than the Rational Behavior or Spritual Unfoldment columns.
Questions to the Sunday Morning Kumbaya Coming Down and Dominatrix categories are even easier than Painful Experience but not Rational Behavior and Spiritual Unfoldment. Are those two in the harder college version?
“He that drinks his cider alone, let him catch his horse alone.”
― Benjamin Franklin
I get that. I’m sure you have fine sons. The consequence of having a fine Dad that saw to it that they received the instruction they needed. By being a casual observer of the Olgeltree twins I don’t get the impression they received the instruction they needed at an early age. I’m not making excuses for poor behavior. But I don’t feel the need to wish any extra punishment (consequences) on Ogletree. I still hope he can go in the first round and goes on to a successful career. Whatever punishment due by law for the DUI should be done quickly and impartially.
“I’m not making excuses for poor behavior.” Said immediately following an excuse made for their poor behavior.
Hijo….” You keep knocking on devils door long enough and sooner or later someone’s gonna answer you.”
Yes, one. He will be 30 in November. Not sure I am fair in assuming your intent by the question, but if you are wondering whether I expect perfection, the answer is “of course not”. We are from “perfect” with Mr. Ogletree in this instance, btw. But I did teach accountablility to both of my children, and they understand that is consistent with the way I live, and look at, life. Thus far, it has worked well for all concerned.
I happen to believe people want discipline, and will usually rise to your expectations if they understand them clearly. And I believe there have to be consequences when they don’t. This doesn’t mean life ends with a shortfall (most anyway), but there has to be takeaways when someone deliberately violates rules/standards.
I meant no offense. Just checking on your Dad status. I have two. 21 and one nearly 23. Both at Georgia. I’m sure they would both say I was a little obsessive with discipline. It pays off. They are both fine young men.
I didn’t take any offense, I don’t profess to know all I need to know about parenting now, and certainly didn’t 30 years ago. I think everyone has to adopt their own philosophy and make adjustments as they go. Admittedly, I am no fan of the Dr. Spock method of raising kids, and I feel our culture has become too willing to excuse bad behavior leading to a society that lacks the respect for right/wrong that I was brought up with.
I don’t know enough about the Ogletree’s childhood but I do feel that by age 18 they should be able to learn about rules/respect/discipline. I recall both twins faltered more than once, were punished and given another chance so I cut them no slack for the early years. Unlike your earlier comment, I would prefer those who stay near the middle of the road to get the most from life thus hope many of them pass AO on the draft ladder. It certainly doesn’t always work that way in life, but I feel it reinforces my philosophy. So if AO drops any at all, I hope he learns that he drank, smoked, or shot that “X” amount of dollars away. We will all be better when that lesson is amplified to others who will come behind him, imo.
He whiffed on some sure tackles against pass coverage. The Jordan Reed catch and run the Jarvis punched the ball loose at the goal line against UF should’ve been an Ogletree tackle for a short gain. Instead he whiffed and Jarvis had to save the day. Some kids just don’t understand the natural ability God gave them; and they just squander it away. Hope he gets some help!!
‘Tree was a playmaker but it should be noted that Georgia never had the guy for a full season and in 2 out of the 3 instances it was his fault. Hope the guy gets his stuff together.
Ok, in this case the caption literally is true.
Mark Richt didn’t lose control of O, O lost control of O.
I’m not sure how I feel about the fact that the first thought that flashed through my mind when I read this article was “Supremely gifted athlete. Immense personal discipline problems. Wonder if this is how Leonard Little started out?”
that may be unfair to Alec Ogletree, but it was a flash reaction. I hope he gets his act together before something bad happens that he can’t PR away. He could have a long and profitable NFL career and a great life, if he could just get his act together. I certainly hope he does.
If he is unable to turn it around, he will join a long list of athletes who gave away a King’s ransom for juice or drugs. I think recently from our program Odell Thurman coms to mind. Guy was a born LB and had already begun to establish his ability to play at the next level. Terrible waste of a talented person whose troubles began before he arrived on campus, and never changed for any length of time despite considerable effort and a number of chances.
samonjungle still feels the pain –
samoanjungle says:Feb 17, 2013 9:30 AM
“I was hoping the Bengals would draft this guy but I still haven’t gotten over the Odell Thurman debacle.”
Look you just cant fix stupid.
My golf game proves this all too well.
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