Okay, maybe it’s not just the Jimmies and Joes.

I bet if I asked you guys which football program has signed the most four- and five-star recruits in the last four years, most if not all of you would say Alabama.  And you’d be right.

But what about the next three?  (Hint:  none of them has won a conference title in that time, one of them hasn’t had a double-digit winning season in that time and all three of them have had one losing season in that time).

You can find the answer here.

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15 responses to “Okay, maybe it’s not just the Jimmies and Joes.

  1. Otter

    If someone told me four years ago that Nick Marshall would play for the National Championship this year and Isaiah Crowell would be leaving early for the NFL…
    I would have been a happy man.
    And the same year as UGA had a QB rewriting the SEC records books…

  2. TomReagan

    You’re forgetting that Auburn won the conference last year, Senator.

  3. Derek

    The conclusion that can be drawn is that the recruiting rankings are flawed. There is very little imperical support for the idea that coaching trumps talent in college football. The number one factor in on the field success will always be talent at the college level. Whether the recruiting services do a good job of identifying talent is another matter. Additionally, a lot of winning and losing will depend on where your talent is. A five star qb that pans out is much more valuable than a five star right guard for instance. I think you’d have a hard time making the case that muschamp would be on the hot seat if he was getting production from the qb position. He will rise or fall on will Grier, another five star recruit.

    • Nashville West

      I had a similar thought about the rankings being flawed. There also may be an East coast bias in the rankings. Some of the 3 stars that Oregon and Stanford are getting from California may actually be 4 star talent.

  4. Hogbody Spradlin

    Recruiting is a necessary but not sufficient condition?

    Also, look at the drop from LSU to SCar. Guess you gotta give Spurrier credit for getting the most out of them.

    • uglydawg

      Yep. Steve Spurrier is one strong argurment against Derek’s comments above. Given a the choice between a great coach with mediocre talent to work with or a mediocre coach with great talent to work with…I’ll bet on the former. This is absolutley true in HS football and at least mostly true in college football. I’m not trying to be contrary, but that’s the way I see it.
      It’s an interesting subject that can be argued either way..But for certain, Alabama has taught us that a great coach with great talent can be do some amazing things.

      • Derek

        Spurrier started winning when he started keeping the top in state talent in South Carolina I.e., Jeffery, lattimore, clowney etc. the shift from 7-6 to 11-2 has been due to a serious talent upgrade. I will say that he can do more with less at the qb position than most. And saying talent is the number one factor isn’t saying coaching is irrelevant, it’s just saying it matters less. There are coaches who can’t coach like chizik but who can still win crystal footballs when they have the best player on the field. Talent > coaching. Coaching does still matter.

  5. anon

    Confirms my suspicion. Richt can’t coach a lick

  6. dudetheplayer

    Not disputing your overall point here, but ESPN’s recruiting rankings are and continue to be pretty terrible. All of the recruiting sites are flawed to some extent, but 247 does the best job at evaluating prospects in my opinion. The rest I don’t really pay attention to.

    Check out Mizzou and Vandy at the bottom of that list. Major variance in “stars” and production. Always will be when dealing with dudes at this age.

  7. JAX

    We have seen a lot of talent sport the red and black in the past 4 years and during Richt’s entire tenure, but without a consistently stout defense, the folks that crow about UGA wasting their resources are closer to being right than wrong. Now that Pruitt is in place, hopefully our defense steps up to the level of play we’ve seen from the offense – would be a tremendously productive combination. We have no excuses left, get it done.

  8. MAB

    The interesting part to me is the total number of four- and five-star SEC recruits in 2013 (183) compared to the previous 3 (107, 99, 94) years. Why the huge jump? More kids born in 1995 because of what? Monica Lewinsky? I’m not sure about the total number of available four- and -five-star recruits nationwide, but I’m guessing it stays fairly consistent year-to-year. You would think that if it was the SEC MNC stretch, the boost would have shown up earlier.