Tray Matthews, victim of circumstance

I mentioned the other day how blunt Mark Richt was about Tray Matthews’ dismissal.  I can see why.

The incident in one of the Miller Learning Center’s many classrooms preceded Richt’s decision to let Matthews go by just a few hours. The disruption occurred toward the end of the nearly three-hour class around 1:45 p.m., and Matthews announced his dismissal on Twitter just minutes short of 5:30 p.m. Matthews blamed the disruption for his dismissal, but said he thought the arrest also played a part in the decision.

“That’s basically the reason why I got kicked off though,” Matthews said of the classroom incident. “That’s what [coach Mark Richt] told me basically. … Yeah, I think it’s kind of some of the arrest stuff, too, though. But I was basically, I was leaving anyways, I just hadn’t put that in the media.”  [Emphasis added.]

Soooooo… Matthews is struggling with his conditioning, partly because he’s not making enough effort to take care of himself, gets arrested for stealing but is allowed to stay on the team – an unusual departure from past practice – receives public praise from Richt a little over a week ago for acting like he’s starting to mature (Mark must not have read Tray’s Twitter feed), blows that and then has the chutzpah to claim he was leaving anyway?  Yeah, faced with that, I’d have been blunt, too.

Under the circumstances, Richt comes off as kind of restrained, now that I think about it.  Dang.


UPDATE:  Marc Weiszer’s wrap up contains some beauts.

  • “The only thing I did was talking to my classmate besides me and we got into a little argument. It was two guys arguing about a sport (about some players). That’s what it was. Me and another athlete were arguing about a sport. It was kind of loud. It wasn’t even that loud, but a professor was talking while we were talking. That’s disrespectful of course. But nobody was disrespectful to him at all.”  Maybe the professor was being disrespectful to Matthews.
  • “Some coaches are telling me not to talk about it no more,” Matthews said Thursday morning from his home in Newnan. “Basically, just move on.”  Sure, that’s how you grow.  But notice he still can’t take advice.
  • Matthews and the other players arrested–former Bulldog receiver Uriah LeMay, defensive lineman Jonathan Taylor and defensive end James DeLoach–are to appear in an Athens court later today for an arraignment. Matthews indicated a pre-trial intervention program could be in the offing.
    “I know everything is already worked out,” Matthews said. Naturally.

Bonus item, from Seth Emerson “Matthews said he has received a full release from UGA with no restrictions.”


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119 responses to “Tray Matthews, victim of circumstance

  1. KornDawg

    So basically, “you can’t kick me off the team coach, I quit!”
    Whatever gets you through the night, TriggaTray.

    • John Denver is full of shit...

      Sporting white sneakers, khaki pants and a loose-fitting and untucked navy button down, former Georgia safety Tray Matthews…went to court.

  2. TennesseeDawg

    Looks like Richt finally had enough and pulled the Trigga

  3. LRGK9

    Buy In and Get It or the other side of the screen door.

  4. So much hype, so little production – another reason to show how flawed the recruiting services can be. They can’t measure the desire to excel and be great. Gurley and Marshall have it. Aaron Murray has it. Ramik Wilson seems to have it. Pollack and Jarvis Jones had it.

    • Macallanlover

      And a cast of hundreds who also had it, just didn’t have the notoriety. We all dwell on the train-wrecks, and that is natural, but behind the scene there are hundreds of young men who did their best, stayed within the rules, contributed to the team what they could, and benefited from a caring coaching staff. All of those on this current team will benefit by not being around the weak ones who haven’t figured out manhood, or being part of a team, yet.

      • Well said as usual, Macallan.

      • DawgPhan

        Wait I thought that there were way more Matthews than there were Marshalls and all highly ranked recruits had “entitlement problems”.

        What gives? Now some of them might actually work hard and have the right attitude?

      • Olddawg 55

        Well said, Mac…there are thousands who do “get it” and are out there giving their all. They grow up to be good men and good citizens and are a credit to the sport.

    • Rp

      I would like to add Chris Conley as well. Great kid.

      • +1 – Conley is going to do great things whether on or off the field. My point is that Gurley, Marshall, Murray, and Jones came in with hype and delivered because they had the desire to be great. I probably muddied the water by mentioning Pollack.

    • gastr1

      They also can’t measure maturity and work ethic, or at least, they don’t.
      Tray Matthews may still get the desire to be great and may still become great….but he’ll do it on someone’s else team because of lack of maturity and work ethic while with this team.

      After all, Isaiah Crowell did get drafted…

    • Noonan

      Add Kregg Lumpkin to that list. KL got a master’s degree before going to the NFL.

      • Good point – it’s too bad he had all of the knee problems his last couple of years at UGA. I still think about that pass he dropped as a freshman on the 1st play from scrimmage of the ’03 SECCG after we stopped LSU on their 1st possession. I believe it was the same play Gurley scored on in Jacksonville this year.

        Lumpkin worked hard and got hurt. By that time, Brown & Moreno were doing their thing and Lumpkin was the odd man out. Still a DGD.

        • Macallanlover

          Boy, I have that same thought about that dropped pass by Lump. We will never know how that could have changed the game. Dawg crowd would have been amped after a start like that. LSU was pretty good that year an won the MNC, but we had played them close in Red Stick earlier that season. Damn, that would have been back to back SECs with another two years later. How would that have changed Georgia’s perception and recruiting?

          • We outplayed them in Red Stick, everywhere except the scoreboard. Billy Bennett missed 3 field goals that ended up as the difference in the game. If we win that game, Saban doesn’t have his first national championship because they lost to Ole Miss(?) later that season and wouldn’t have represented the SECW in the title game. He doesn’t go to Miami and likely never goes to Alabama.

  5. simpl_matter

    The sad part is, we are the “wake-up call” for some of these dismissals. They realize they better get their ship together when they get kicked-off at UGA, and then end up at another school ready to grow up and focus. We are the Georgia Military Academy of the SEC….

    • Macallanlover

      A sleazy description that I assume you meant as humor. Doing the right things, the right way, is rarely the easy way. I prefer to look at us as the standard bearer for discipline in the SEC and hope it inspires others to get their priorities in line. I am not naïve enough to think that will happen over night but if the UGA administration would show some balls and address this in a public way it might turn the heat up on some others. In the meantime, we will have to overcome the gap created by the unlevel playing field. But I don’t agree with those who want us to sink to the lowest level just because it probably costs us a win, or two, a year.

      • simpl_matter

        Where’s the sleaze?? My point was, these cast-offs have their “epiphany” at Georgia and some other school reaps the benefits by taking in a talented player that just received a big reality check and will most probably walk the line and be an asset at the new school. That’s it, no comment on university or Richt’s policies in what I said.

        • awreed79

          Better for them and everyone else in society for them to have an epiphany than to become Aaron Hernandez. I’m glad our coach has the balls and the fortitude to provide the reality check. Even it means their football potential is realized somewhere else.

          • JonDawg

            I understand where he is coming from, though, and I’m certifiably Disney.. I’m glad our coach has what it takes to build strong character in young men, but I think his boss should overstep him in one facet. No more allowing our players to end up at another SEC school. Anywhere else is fine.

        • Macallanlover

          I take the statement that we are the GMA of the SEC as the low road. Didn’t say there wasn’t some truth in us being a pass through for some folks who aren’t a polished/finished product but setting a higher standard is where I prefer to land on characterizing UGA’s position. Maybe I have the a negative perception to being labeled a “training ground”, or reform school, but that is the way I took it. Just verbiage, and that is just an opinion, not blasting you.

    • Gravidy

      I don’t doubt some of them actually do get their ship together while playing for another team, but I’ll bet, more often than not. their ship remains in roughly the same shape at their new destination. But their new teams are willing to overlook it for performance on the field.

      • simpl_matter

        IDK, most of the one’s with real NFL potential probably get scared straight when they realize what’s at stake.

      • Minnesota Dawg

        I’m with you, Gravidy. The idea that all these character-issue guys suddenly do a 180 and live on the straight and narrow when they sign up to particular programs/coaches seems like a bit of a fairy tale that their supporters are happy to believe and retell.

        • Gravidy

          If I thought most of these “second chance” guys really become good citizens, I’d be in favor of UGA going after some of them. The fact that Richt doesn’t go after them tells me he knows what the real chances of a dramatic turnaround are.

      • Dog in Fla

        Since they stopped the draft kids these days don’t know ship on a shingle from Shinola®

    • MoodyDawg

      I think we’re more of the ‘Organic Chemistry’ of SEC Football as opposed to GMC.

      • AthensHomerDawg

        Organic chemistry was a real ball breaker. When my oldest was taking it I once tried to help him. I dug up my organic chemistry model kit and was putting it together when he started laughing. He pulled out his ipad and put a 3 D model together on it for me. I put my model away. he never asked me anymore questions. With all the resources these kids have it is always surprising to me when one gets bounced because of grades. If Trigga’s head wasn’t screwed on right the help was there if he wanted it.

        • Gravidy

          Your last sentence hits the nail on the head. That’s the part of this that galls me. These aren’t ordinary kids in ordinary situations screwing up in ordinary ways. They have an almost literal army of people at UGA whose sole purpose is to hold their hands and guide them on the straight and narrow path. Any player who gives even one tenth of a shit about behaving properly has a willing and able support systems to assist him.

  6. I’m not at all disappointed he’s gone as I think most people knew it was only a matter of time after his check cashing scheme. It doesn’t change my opinion that the only reason UGAs secondary won’t be worse this year is because it won’t face many good QBs. It will still make bad QBs look serviceable, though. If any team has success running the ball on UGA early on it’s going to get ugly.

  7. WF dawg

    What a turd. Good riddance.

  8. Ginny

    Dumb, dumb, dumb. Knowing you’re on thin ice already from check-gate, wouldn’t you try and be on your absolute best behavior?? Lawd have mercy.

  9. JAX

    He was taking a children’s literature class? WTF is that? Was his book report about Goodnight Moon?

    When you think about it, it really is appropriate. A mental child should take a children’s books.

    Trigga’ should have always been at Auburn, more his speed.

    • Trigga: Miss Lippy, the part of the story I don’t like, is that the boy stops looking for his dog after an hour. He just sits on his porch like a goon, he didn’t put up posters or anything. That boy’s gotta think…You got a pet, you got a responsibility! You can’t just look for an hour and call it quits. So you get your ass out there and you find that fuckin’ dog!

      Prof: Get out of my class.

    • I was thinking the same thing about Children’s Lit. The entire episode is like something out of a 7th grade classroom, including the subject matter.

    • Dog in Fla

      Except at Auburn the student-athletes have to color in book reports on “My Pet Goat”

  10. dawgtor

    I wonder what sort of resources were being directed toward him. The kid clearly has poor judgement and insight to go with questionable coping skills. I doubt it is a coincidence that this happened within a week of his court hearing. Does the team have or need a dedicated mental health professional? Knowing how impulsive he is and how poorly he deals with stressors, could increased attention during this predictably stressful time have changed the outcome? I know noone can answer this question, but I’m curious about how they deal with mental health issues on the team.

    • The University has the Dept of Disabilities Services that handles some stuff like this. They do good things…unfortunately I think they assist an inordinate number of football players.

  11. Go Dawgs!

    This is a young man who has a lot of growing up to do. He clearly listens to some very bad influences in his life and is unwilling to take responsibility for anything, whether it’s his arrest or his conditioning. He wasn’t “leaving anyway.” He’s just trying to save face. His father or some other role model needs to sit him down and have a very long heart to heart with him about growing the hell up and fully committing to whatever second chance is about to come his way, because there is no third chance. He’s just made any professional career that much harder to obtain. Now it’s about saving the chance for that and also doing what he can to set himself up for life after football. Frankly, right now he seems like he’s incapable of showing enough maturity to do either one. Time to shape up, Tray. This is your latest (and perhaps last?) wake up call. Good luck.

  12. stoopnagle

    If I had to predict, my guess is that if it is true that his mom is dealing with calls from other schools all day, his sense of self will not suffer enough to create the doubt required to pull himself together and make the leap from talented to accomplished.

    I kind of wonder now, though, we knew Auburn & Louisville would be possible landing spots, but now Florida and Alabama? If the expectations of Pruitt are a problem, how’s he going to jive with Will or The Man? Does not equate.

  13. Cousin Eddie

    Herbstriet is correct, UGA has a discipline problem; Coach Richt enforces discipline on his players. How many of these guys would still be with other teams with issues like these? I’m not bashing Richt, I agree with his stance.

    • Eddie…you shouldn’t have. Literally–you shouldn’t have.

      • WF Dawg

        That’s now two of my favorites that you’ve referenced in one comment thread. Well done, Lamont.

    • 81Dog

      Unlike TOSU, where it’s “No discipline? No problem.” Irvin’s a great shaper of young men, like Aaron Hernandez, the “time to die, bitch” guy, the AK47 guy, etc.

  14. Keese

    Good! Arrogant thug acting self centered little shit needed a kick in the ass and reality check.

  15. AthensHomerDawg

    It’s too bad. I read the post about the professor asking him to leave and Trigga responding with who was going to make him. I wonder if the Prof called CMR after class?

  16. South FL Dawg

    He won’t take responsibility, so he won’t make it anywhere.

    • excerpt:

      Apparently, Tray Matthews was enrolled in a Maymester class. My buddy happened to be in the class (Children’s Literature) with Matthews and roughly 30 other students. According to my pal, Matthews was consistently disruptive and disrespectful during class. Matthews apparently spent most of his class time talking with those around him and would even go so far as to pull out his phone for calls during the class. Again, this is a relatively small class, so you can imagine the kind of distraction that would cause.

      His antics culminated on the final day of class (yesterday), when the professor stopped teaching and told Matthews to get out of the class. Matthews feigned an excuse by saying he was “just asking a question,” but the professor had already reached a breaking point. So he reiterated the command adding, “You have been disrupting this class all semester, get our of my class.”

      Matthews responded, “Or what?” After a long, awkward pause the professor asked (perhaps rhetorically), “What do I have to do? Call the police?”

      Matthews did not leave the classroom and the professor backed off of his threat, but not before commenting that he had never had to stop class like that before in his career. He added (still in front of the entire class) that Matthews was the most disrespectful student he had ever had (in 37 years of teaching).

      • DawgFan31404

        Too bad the professor had to be treated in a such a manner by a low-life thug. Indeed, this kid needs a good ass-kicking!!!

        • Dog in Fla

          Leave members of a religious organization of robbers and assassins in India alone! Devotees of the goddess Kali, the Thugs waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travelers, in a ritually prescribed manner because a reading list (h/t Stingtalk) like this in a highly concentrated Maymester course is a good ass-kicking before the act of strangulation is complete:

          The following is a sample syllabus of readings
          for a single semester:

          Propp. “Folklore and Literature”
          Bettelheim. “The Struggle for Meaning”
          “Little Red Riding Hood”
          “Beauty and the Beast”
          “Snow White”
          “Hansel and Gretel”
          Hans Christian Andersen. Selected Fairy Tales
          Oscar Wilde. Selected Fairy Tales
          Harris. The Complete Tales of Uncle Remus
          Carroll. Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland
          Barrie. Peter Pan
          Jansson. Tales from Moominvalley
          Saint-Exupery. The Little Prince

        • Dog in Fla

          Thug go-to song

      • StatGal

        Good grief! As a college professor, good for Richt! Maymester is all of 14+/- days long… He couldn’t behave for 14 days of class? What a jerk! I hope that professor is getting lots of support, rather than having his house egged by those lesser desirables in the fan base who might think he is to blame for Trigga’s dismissal. I’m sure there was collective applause by any other professor he ever had because this is no doubt not the first time he’s been ‘that student’ in class. Good riddance!

        • DawgPhan

          The professor is retired and this was probably his parting shot after making $100’s of $1000’s if not millions from the tax payer for teaching children’s lit classes to college students.

          • Children’s Lit is not exactly his forte. He usually teaches other subjects related to literature. Regardless, many college subjects are bogus, but remember Tray Matthews signed up for the class.

          • Normaltown Mike

            Comp Literature professors don’t make very much, nor do most profs in the humanities.

            The big ticket jobs are those that compete with the free market (Law, Pharmacy, Business) and those that get fat Federal grants (Chem, Bio).

            If someone teaches Comparative Literature, they really are the cliche of a highly educated person that loves some discipline so much they are willing to pursue a tedious PhD and make very little money in return.

          • StatGal

            Yeah, DawgPhan, I’m sure the professor was so glad that Matthews played right in to his plan to stick it right to the University on the way out the door. The same Univerity he taught at for 34 years and where he was recognized as a distinguished research and distinguished teaching faculty. Let’s take the blame right off the kid and blame the professor, because the kid has done nothing to make me doubt his side of the story.

            And did you think the professor should be teaching for free? Those 100s of 1000s of dollars (over the span of a long career) are what’s called ‘earning a living’, something Matthews is going to have to figure out soon enough.

  17. “A professor was talking while we were talking.”

    TRANSLATION: Having no respect for the professor teaching the class nor the other students, I ignored the lecture and instead engaged in a loud conversation about an unrelated sports topic, because I am a football star and everyone else present was beneath me.

    • WF Dawg

      I don’t know which line makes me madder:

      “A professor was talking while we were talking.”
      “That’s disrespectful of course. But nobody was disrespectful to him at all.”

      I guess it’s a choice between arrogance and inanity.

      • studawg

        Its a sign of the times if you ask me. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the percentage of kids in our society who behave like this is ever-increasing. The more the government tries to hand out and provide basic necessities for its citizens in order to buy votes, the less need for a father in the home, and the less discipline the children receive. Its a damn shame. Sorry for the doom and gloom and to get a bit political, but its the dadgum truth.

        • DawgPhan

          *shakes fist *

          Kids these days

          grumble grumble

          GET OFF MY LAWN!

          PS. Kids today are no worse than when you were one.

          Also it is handing out a lot more to baby boomers than it is to young voters.

          • studawg

            PS. I disagree.

            But you helped make my point on the handouts. Yes the government is handing out to the parents, which means there is less need for another provider in the home. Custody goes to the mom about 90% of the time, dad disappears. Dads are the ones who usually provide the discipline. Government handouts=no dad=no discipline=disrespectful spoiled brats.

        • Slaw Dawg

          A few facts, studawg, that may help you feel a bit less doom and gloomish:

          • The juvenile arrest rate peaked in1994 and has been dropping ever since, having now reaching its lowest point in more than 30 years. The murder rate reached its post WWII peak in 1994, and has dropped ever since–as of 2013, it was 43% lower than in 1960. (Sources: DOJ Office of Juvenile Justice; Centers for Disease Control Morbidity and Mortality Report)
          • As of 2013, the U.S. graduation rate was approaching 75%, its highest rate in 40 years. (source: June 6, 2013 issue of “Education Week”).

          • As of October, 2009, 70% of 2009 high school grads were enrolled in college, the highest level in history, and has only slightly declined during the recession. (source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics)

          • The teen pregnancy rate is at historic lows, at @ 6% in 2010, the lowest rate in more than 30 years (info courtesy of the Guttmacher Institute)

          • The National Institute on Drug Abuse reported in Dec. 2011 that cigarette and alcohol use by 8th, 10th and 12th graders was at its lowest point since polling began in 1975.

          • Marijuana use as of 2013 among 12th graders has been pegged at @38%, compared to 50% in 1979 (University of Michigan study).

          • The volunteering rate among 16-19 year olds in the new century has held fairly steady in the 25%-30% range, compared to 13% in 1989. (source: US Census, as per the Center for Information & Research).

          (Sorry for not giving you the direct links–didn’t know how to make them “stick”!)

  18. Mayor

    Matthews…”finished his career at Georgia with 23 tackles and 1 interception…” No word on the number of missed tackles, blown assignments and dropped balls he had however everyone will remember his participation in the tipped ball incident with JHC which led directly to losing the 2013 Georgia-Auburn game. Good riddance.

  19. Normaltown Mike

    Let’s look at the upside, at least he didn’t assault the Proctor when she caught him cheating.

  20. What is the track record of formerly dismissed players in the NFL? I know Bryce Brown ended up being a 7th round pick, and is a bench player for the Bills. LaMarcus Coker played in Canada but never made the NFL. Seems like 90% of them do nothing. Is Cam Newton the exception?

    • Normaltown Mike

      Randy Moss did pretty well, though I’m not sure if he was dismissed or just left FSU.

  21. sniffer

    For the life of me, I don’t see how “the high road” must include a “no restriction on transfer” policy. Its probably not a written policy, but the fact that Richt would allow this is incomprehensible to me. If it has been stated to Matthews that he can go the JUCO route and enroll anywhere later, I have less problems with that. But it is frustrating to watch former UGA players end up at another SEC program and play against us. Let alone contribute to beating us! Come on, Mark, restrict their transfers to out of conference schools.

    • Dog in Fla

      He saw no need to further hamstring him?

    • Mayor

      Agreed. They should be restricted from attending any SEC school, Georgia Tech and any other Big 5 conference school on Georgia’s schedule (i.e. Clemmons, etc.). If they go to Georgia Southern, that’s OK, too. Any other college (including schools in the ACC, B1G, Big 12 and PAC 12) would be fine for them to attend, plus the whole world of FCS, D-II, etc. For crying out loud, at least limit them from going to Auburn.

    • MGW

      Don’t know if I would do it or not, but it makes perfect sense that Richt does it. He’s been pretty consistent about putting every kid’s best interest before competitive concerns throughout his whole time at UGA, and this falls right in line with that. It seems more than likely a kid like Matthews is just going to go wherever will have him that gives him the best shot at a pro career with no real consideration given to his education except to pass classes and stay eligible. But Richt isn’t a guy who’s going to presume that, and then limit a kid’s options because of football.

    • Krautdawg

      Forget discussion of the high road, I see the no-restrictions policy as undermining team discipline. It just takes about two seconds of reflection for a kid to figure out that he can (a) suck it up and learn his position or (b) become essentially a free agent. Guess which one I’d pick if I were 20 and arrogant? (N.B.: I’m not 20 anymore.)

      Don’t get me wrong, I like the way Richt believes, contrary to everyone else in CFB, that you shouldn’t tank a kid’s future just because you’re afraid he’ll make playing against [SEC team] more difficult. But I’d like to see the kids have an incentive to try to make it work for us instead of throwing in the towel and fishing for offers from Boom.

      • Cojones

        See Mr SEC’s op ed on Matthews and transfer. He’s calling for guys not going to any team that may compete with you in your conference. What the hell’s wrong with other conferences? I agree that he should be restricted from going to another conference team. It’s a slap in our face and to discipline of CFB players when he is accepted.

    • Big Shock

      I don’t see the problem with letting these guys go to another SEC school. If these guys are the me-first, self-centered players that they’re made out to be, wouldn’t they potentially hurt the teams where they transfer. I understand these guys may want to come back and beat UGA, but wouldn’t the remaing players–the guys who had their stuff stolen, the guys who were let down by these former teammates, want to show these guys that they’re missing out on being a dawg, that UGA is better without them. Let them become Auburn Tigers, because that way, the guys they let down still get a shot to break their ribs every November.

      • Dog in Fla

        “the guys they let down still get a shot to break their ribs every November.”

        Making it a #win-win for all concerned

  22. MGW

    “That’s disrespectful of course.”

    Of course…

  23. albanyga1

    I don’t understand it at all. I would prohibit him, at the very least, from going to any other SEC school… and Louisville. Just because I’m spiteful.

  24. studawg

    Just like Coach said, “we need to make room for guys who want to do things right.” We have no room for these types of morons. Get the H off my campus and don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

  25. cube

    I think it’s funny that some of the same bozos who whine about people booing at games are some of the same bozos constantly ripping this 19 year old like he’s a child abuser. Get a grip people/bozos.

  26. Debby Balcer

    Cube booing a player in a game and calling this kid’s behavior entitled and arrogant are not the same thing. He needs to grow up and fast or he will throw his opportunities away. I understand the frustration people feel about his attitude towards his opportunity. He wasted it. Some one else could have used that spot. You will never catch me booing and I won’t call him names but his deserves the disdain being shown towards him.

    • cube

      I know they’re not the same thing. I wasn’t referring to anyone who called his behavior entitled or arrogant and left it at that.

      There are few things more pathetic and tiresome than a so-called adult beating his or her chest like King Kong, going on and on harping on the mistakes of young people. Then when you throw in the fact that the same chest beater cries profusely when they hear someone boo at a game, it just gets comical.

      • AthensHomerDawg

        Gee Cube I just don’t get you here. Color me outed. I hate the boo birds. Its why we keep my Dad at home on game days. He objected to the F word around my Mom. I ain’t crazy about it myself. Tray Matthews behavior is just wrong. Not chest bumping on my part but good grief the kid is way over the top with where he is at. It’s a big deal when a scholly athlete loses his ride. That which you see as chest bumping is off season blog chatter. Kay?
        “But slight mistakes accumulate, and grow to gross errors if unchecked.”
        ― Jacqueline Carey she never watched Corch at Florida. Just sayin’

        • cube

          Make whatever excuses you want.

        • cube

          And if you don’t see the hypocrisy in getting seriously worked up about booing college kids while thinking it’s fine to rip the shit out of them on the internet, you’re blind as a bat.


          • AthensHomerDawg

            booing college kids while thinking it’s fine to rip the shit out of them Make any excuse you want?????
            Thaz some serious goofy right there Cube. You think this kid has been ripped on the internet.? My oh My! You think he is a victim here?

            • AthensHomerDawg

              I couldn’t wait 10 minutes to respond to my response…. BOZZO>>>>>

            • cube

              The “make any excuses you want” reply was directed at your sentence of “That which you see as chest bumping is off season blog chatter.” I should have made that clearer. You see it as harmless internet chatter. Fine. But then you see stadium booing as very harmful and a serious issue. That’s totally ridiculous and illogical. Unless the only reason that you disagree with booing is b/c it makes you feel uncomfortable and not b/c it is unfair to the college kids putting in the hard work so that you have a team to follow?

              As far as how much I think he’s been ripped on the internet, I think some have done way more than others. And some of the ones doing the big time ripping are the same hypocrites who talk about what a tragedy it is that people boo at games.

              And I never insinuated that he’s a victim. Not even close. I did point out that he’s 19 years old though. And I’ll add here that he definitely deserved to get kicked off the team. There’s nothing wrong with a simple comment about him acting stupid or arrogant or something like that. But to go on and on about it, taking deep jabs at the kid is way over the top. Especially when the people doing it are ones who gets their panties all in a wad about booing b/c it might hurt the players’ feelings.

              Well, that was a mouthful and I’m tired. Cube out. Have a good one.

          • Cosmic Dawg

            I agree about piling on somebody who is obviously (though he does not know it yet) screwing up his life, and that twisting the knife in Matthews isn’t the same as supporting the prof.


            The pronblem with booing is that often you are booing people who are trying hard but either made a bad decision or are simply physically over-matched. And you canot help but to be booing ALL the players wearing the jersey that day in some small way, even if it is clear who you’re booing – and often it is not.

            Even a player getting exhausted or mentally defeated is not the same thing as stealing, insulting a professor in a classroom, and showing no contrition.

          • Mayor

            Who’s Kay?

  27. CannonDawg

    After watching the interview with Bergdahl’s Army platoon mates, my faith is renewed. Those are unselfish, thoughtful, and incredibly brave young Americans who risked everything in service to this nation. And then I remind myself about my obsessing over the actions of self-absorbed college athletes whose behavior results in their being booted from the football team, and the subsequent impact that might have on the upcoming season. And I’ve concluded that my concerns about these football players are misplaced. Keep kicking their asses off, CMR, if they consider themselves bigger than the team. If it costs us a football game here and there, so be it. The stakes for these prima donnas are so much less than the risks for those 19 and 20-year-olds who are serving in harm’s way. I’ll always pull for the Dawgs, but no longer for the divas. Semper Fi.