So one of the most iconic plays in Auburn history goes down as being made by two former Dawgs now sporting orange and blue. Strange.
I hope Tray gets as sick watching the constant replay of that as I was seeing it unfold.
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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
Get The Picture 
I’m going to get attacked, like I always do on here, for saying this but it really grinds my gears seeing kids constantly get in trouble at UGA and then go other places and seemingly fit in without any trouble. Why can other Universities like Auburn and Louisville find a way to keep these kids in check and performing on the field and we continue to have to let players walk? smh
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Louisville? Didn’t they dismiss a ton of kids after Petrino left for Atlanta?
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A bunch. Petrino built that program on a house of cards and it inevitably crashed.
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Some think it was travel through another dimension — a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination and lax testing. You’ve just crossed over to a descent into Reefer Madness!
“At the same time, there were rumblings after Petrino’s departure (from Louisville) that the coach had been too lax when it came to taking action on positive drug tests. The first positive test got you sent to drug counseling. The second got you a one-game suspension. The third got you a four-game suspension. Some later alleged that if there was a first, there usually was no testing done to risk a second or third. But attempts to get even aggregate records were not successful. Under Kragthorpe, players had a three-strike policy. First offense garnered a one-game suspension, counseling and mandatory testing for one year. The second positive got a 4-game suspension and enrollment in a treatment program, and a third got you dismissed.
Players started being dismissed in high numbers, including some who had people around the school scratching their heads, because they’d been otherwise good citizens. Nobody could divulge the real reason for many of the dismissals, though one source close to the program said, “They chose pot over their football futures.”
http://bamalighthouse.com/2012/11/28/the-chronicles-of-bobby-petrino/
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Yeah. You would have thought they would have chosen pussy like their coach.
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Kids today, no sense of priorities. ☺
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Ummm. This should be pretty obvious. At Auburn, he wouldn’t be expected to actually show up to a Children’s Literature class. He would have a discussion with his bag man when he needed more money instead of trying to cash his check twice.
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FTM
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“Keep in check”?? NO! “Cover -up” YES. When U hide the issues, let the animals run wild, & have no ethics/discipline with a “win at all costs” belief system, the players may keep performing on the field. That is how you put more Aaron Hernadez types into society.
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Because AU, without question, covers everything up; so a given transgression there will never see the light of day in public as it does at UGA. They truly are “all in,” as they like to say.
And as others have noted below, their fans truly don’t care as ethics and morality were tossed out the window a long time ago. The ends justify the means, is perhaps the best way to describe it.
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Well said, well said…
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Remember Clowney was pulled over for speeding (twice, the first time was going 110 in a 70) and what happened to him? Absolutely nothing. What would have happened if that were a Georgia player?
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OH no, something happened. He took a photo with the cops.
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Auburn is nothing if not predictable. Same for Trigga.
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Another day, another thief goes to Auburn. What a proud and shameless bunch they must be. WDE indeed Trigga.
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Yeah, you’d think there’d be a few, at least a few, Auburn fans out there who would be embarrassed by their school becoming the moral cesspool of the SEC. Gawd, I hope lot of us would be embarrassed if UGA were going that way.
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Bunch of my best friends are Barners and they seriously could not care less. Sold their souls a long time ago I guess.
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+1,000. I am having the same experience.
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A million more plusses.
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There were a few who replied to this tweet in a distinctly unwelcoming tone, so apparently some of them do have some shame.
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So a guy steals while at UGA and becomes a Heisman contending national title game playing QB at Auburn and Auburn is the moral cesspool?
seems like the cesspooling is being done on campus in athens.
I bet we dont hear anything but accolades about ole trigga during his time on the plains.
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“DawgPhan” or “DawgTroll”?
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Troll his colors -have been showing for a while
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Yep, total scumbag.
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DawgPhan is an Auburn fan in sheep’s clothing
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He’s a smartass!! I had a run in with him on another site last
year. Wish he would disappear …. forever!!
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He has a legitimate point and raises a question that should have been raised long ago. UGA apparently recruits some very good ballplayers who have, shall we say, “morality issues.” Then, it at least appears to the naked eye, turns them loose on campus unsupervised. When something happens the kid gets suspended from playing games and castigated in the press, and ultimately, leaves on his on volition or is kicked off the team. My point is, and has been in the past, why aren’t these kids supervised better? If you are going to recruit question marks like this you had better be willing to basically baby-sit them. The NCAA and SEC allow the hiring of an unlimited number of “consultants” (see Saban, Nick) to do anything and everything ancillary to the football program that is not actually coaching. Get somebody like that and assign him to a group of players giving him the responsibility–and authority–to supervise the players appropriately. When the kids act up the coach runs them until their tongues hang out. But do not let them be as unsupervised as it appears they are now. We’ve become FSU North and for a school that claims the moral high ground like Georgia does (and also for a coach who says he is trying to positively influence young men) the status quo isn’t working. It’s called “adult supervision.” Let’s try some of that for a change.Either that or quit recruiting kids with “morality issues.”
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I am not certain that these kids have a “morality issue”. The missteps by most of the football players are minor by nature. It is my opinion that the problem lies with Richt and UGA’s desire to be king of the moral high ground. This moral high ground has created an identity problem for our football program. One can not be both Harvard and Alabama (I picked two extremes for demonstration only). The Dawgs have done an excellent job walking that fine line, but unfortunately they can go no further. We have seen the ceiling, and it is 10 or 11 wins with a loss in the SECG. Sadly, we have also seen the floor and it is 6 or 7 wins. The average Georgia season on this current path is 8 or 9 wins. That’s what the best of both worlds the Dawgs dream of living in provides.
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Well, it’s interesting. But FWIW, I don’t think that’s it, Skeptic.
IMHO, the problem has been the culture that was established under Martinez, and continued under Grantham, when he didn’t do anything about it. And one of the things inherent in that was a lack of high expectation, to do everything at a high level. And nothing like that was demanded.
I don’t think it’s a just a coincidence that most of the problem kids over the last 8 years have been on the defensive side of the ball.
Now Matthews may not have survived any culture or atmosphere. Maybe he was just too much of a basket case. Maybe Pruitt would’ve seen that in evaluating him, and would not have offered him. IDK. But had he come in this year instead of last, he would have had a much better chance to adjust, IMO.
Pruitt has been, and still is, in the process of changing the culture. I don’t know how long it’s going to take. But I strongly believe the culture change is the best thing to happen to Georgia football since 2004.
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Ivey, I believe that we may both be correct. The question then changes to What In The World Has Richt Been Doing? We as fans could see issues with the program, how could he no see them as well?
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It’s a great question. I wrote about it at length the other day, but basically, I suspect Richt didn’t see it until sometime in 2009. He knew there were more off-the-field issues, etc., but didn’t know the culture had gotten out of control. He just didn’t see the on-the-field stuff and relate it back to a culture problem.
That’s my guess. If that’s what it was, it’s understandable he didn’t see it, and it’s no flaw or weakness. Something like that is very difficult to see when you’re right there in the middle of it everyday. It’s much easier to see from the outside, as I found out some years ago. And it’s even more difficult if you’re the head man. A lot more difficult.
Anyway, when he did see it, he fired the defensive staff and made a number of other changes, major and minor, designed to correct it. There was a lot of attrition, as we saw through 2011, as Richt’s ax was even heavier than it had previously been. All those changes were needed, and did help, but they weren’t enough to get to the bottom of it all.
So I think Richt did what he could do, within reason, as a head coach. The problem was, Grantham wasn’t wired in the right way to deal with the issue, and most of the problem kids were his players. I think Richt fully expected Grantham to deal with it when he hired him, and Grantham did some token things to make it look good, but his heart wasn’t in it.
Whatever happened, we know Grantham didn’t get it done, and I don’t see how it can be accomplished without the DC, not only buying in, but stepping up front and center as the leading force of change.
So Pruitt has done that. And that is the basis for my excitement. Other teams, that don’t have Richt’s standards, win championships because they get it done in other ways. But Richt can’t be somebody he isn’t. He can be strong, and he is. But he can’t be the enforcer. And since he’s an offensive coach, his DC has to be that guy.
There are other things Pruitt brings, coaching-wise, that will play an integral part in our success, to be sure. In that, he has been a big help to Richt already. But the culture problem is the biggest thing, a core problem that cannot be ignored, and has to be fixed. Because without doing that, we won’t get out of our players what we need.
The way we’ll know, for sure, that the culture change has taken place, will be the same way some of us knew there was a problem .. by the way we play on the field. When it’s fixed, we’ll go back to playing ball more like the early Richt teams did .. efficient, opportunistic, tough, physical, good ST’s, all that stuff. Always applying pressure to the opponent, as opposed to consistently letting them off the hook and giving them opportunities. Thus beating ourselves.
That’s how we’ll know for sure. As painful as it was, that’s the way I first knew for sure how serious the problem was, when I coined the term “cancer” after the ‘funeral game’ in early 2008 (yeah it was me, and it hurt to do that, but it was the truth). Because, usually sooner than later, it always translates onto the field. And so, when it’s fixed, it’ll translate back onto the field again, this time in a very positive way. That’s the way we’ll know.
And that’s how we’ll know the nightmare is finally over.
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That you characterize double depositing checks and disrupting a class as “minor” tells us more about your ceiling than the program’s.
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Charles, stealing from anyone is not minor. However, in comparison to issues at other schools, UGA’s issues are small potatoes.
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In Skeptic’s defense: In the last 5 years or so we have witnessed a gang of UT players beat a person damn near to death in a bar, and when an off-duty cop intervened, they put HIM in the hospital–with no prosecution and no game penalties. At FU it now appears that criminal matters were covered up by Irvin Meyers–and when he did “punish” a player it was ridiculously light for the transgression (1/2 game for gouging Ealey’s eyes in the WLOCP; basically nothing on Hernandez whom, it now appears, may have murdered people in Gainesville while in college there, plus remember “time to die?”). At LSU when the DA reduced a felony assault charge to a misdemeanor the Hat took that as license to return his QB to the team–never mind that the facts about what happened didn’t change. Nothing ever even sees the light of day in Tuscaloosa or on the Plains no matter how bad the transgression. So if Skeptic sees “disrupting a class” as being not so big a deal maybe he’s right about that. Stealing? That’s another matter.
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I agree that our transgressions have been minor compared to other SEC schools. But we get the PR and the rep anyway, which I hate because it’s so unfair.
And I’m glad we all see stealing as a big deal, even though that would be a minor offense elsewhere. And I’m glad “emerging from an alley” is our standard of ‘minor’.
Very glad.
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Dawgphan you are an idiot
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+infinity
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Bill I think you answered your own question. How do the other schools that pick up Georgia’s trash manage to all of a sudden keep them out of trouble?
They don’t!!! Can you imagine how embarrassing on a national media level it would be if it actually came out that they had indeed gotten in trouble again?
Stop and think about it a moment. They get kicked out at Georgia but NEVER get in trouble again? At schools like Auburn, Louisville and LSU they have an amazing threshold of pain for repeat offenders! I can just hear it now. Ok Trey this one is on me but don’t you do it again.
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Some enterprising “sports journalist” (if there really is such a thing) ought to investigate WTF is going on with Auburn and all these thieves, cheaters and thugs who end up there after being kicked out of other schools/teams. Cam is just the tip of the iceberg. Also, why do they go there as opposed to someplace else? $$? An environment where coaches/administrators/teachers all look the other way? Both? Something else?
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Not surprised. I guess Grantham did not want him.
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This kid makes only one memorable play last year which single-handedly loses the game for the Dawgs…now transfers to the school he embarrassed himself against. This kid has no shame. He deserves that auburn shithole never to be seen again
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+1. If it were me that would have to be the one school I’d not want to spend my next three years–constant reminders of a play most of us would immediately want to forget. Guess the money was just too good.
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They can have him. “..AU family and friends, we in this together…”
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apparently, he didn’t mean English class.
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To be fair, the pay there is much better.
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Why did UGA allow him to sign with another SEC school? A rival we play every year.
I am all for CMR general accommodations for kids that want to leave, but this seems to be taking it to the logical extreme…
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I agree. I’ve never understood this.
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Maybe this will be the one that finally causes CMR and McGarity/Morehead to rethink the policy on transfers. This really needs to be changed.
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This isn’t a transfer, Mayor. Dismissed players are free to go wherever they choose.
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Sorry for the error and you are correct, sir. Damn hard to take though. Amirite that Trigga’s still got to sit out next season, though?
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Yep. Although I saw a tweet in which Matthews claims Malzahn has arranged a scholly for him this year.
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He should be relegatted to the bench or travel squad and never given a release or dismissal, and never allowed to actually play another snap. That would send a message to the other goof -offs.
It would be worth wasting a scholly over.
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EVIL RICHT’S PLAN UNFOLDS
Disguised as a strong safety, Georgia Intelligence Agent Trey Matthews
has managed to infiltrate the enemy camp and will pose as one of them, gaining their trust. Over time, it is expected he will transmit information, some of which may be valuable, and at the same time sow seeds of dissension among the enemy’s ranks.
Or, maybe that is why Auburn let him commit to us in the first place, and now that his work is done they are giving him asylum. God knows they could have bought him before.
Might as well have a little fun with it. 😉
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Trigga was an Auburn agent all along. See 2013 Georgia-Auburn game.
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This league’s got more moles than Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
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Otter, if you dismiss a player you can’t restrict his choices.
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Mmmm.
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are you sure about that?
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Wonder where the $46,000 for out of state tuition is coming from. Is his dad a preacher?
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scholarship
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I am pretty sure that players who are dismissed can take a scholarship anywhere the next year, they just have to sit out one season. I think they guys that have to walk-on for a year are the one’s where they jerk-bag coach won’t sign their release when they decide to transfer.
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Not for 2014-2015. If I’m not mistaken, he has to walk on this year.
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I hate Auburn. Possibly even more than Florida right now. Yeah, that much.
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Jeez WF, get a hold of yourself. This feeling should pass within 4 hours or if not then by tomorrow morning. Sure, Auburn’s got a problem child or two of ours and it’s perfectly acceptable to hate them because they truly deserve it for that as well as so many other justifiable reasons but how can it be possible to hate anyone more than Florida…”3-18, Never Forget!”
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3-18 was bad, but the last 3 wins in JAX have put some salve on that wound. I’m still mad about the Nick Fairley game in 2010, plus all the soul-selling AU’s been doing since. And the fact that they respond with incredulity or indifference when we bring this up is worst of all. I don’t have any close friends that are serious AU fans, and I’d like to keep it that way.
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Plus, 2005 and 2013 were two of the most painful games I’ve ever seen. Maybe that was the price to pay for 2002.
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It’s going to take a lot more than a few trouble makers joining AU, and two flukes seasons to me to hate AU more than FL.
Seriously….3-18 against FL (which included my college years at UGA)…..and several of those games were some of the worse beatings I’ve seen UGA suffer. If we win 18 of the next 21 against FL, I’ll forget then.
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UGA actually already did something pretty close to that when VD was the HC. 17-7-1 over a 25 year span.
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Yep, but apparently that was before FU started keeping records.
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I’m with you WF. We have held a commanding lead over FU for a long time. Except for some lack of ethics on the part of their coaches and AD for some disciplinary actions, they have played it pretty straight. But AU, they are complete, out and out cheaters…..and have been forever. 2010 brought all their issues to the surface for the nation to see. They are a national joke, the SEC should cut them loose, imo.
And they hold a one game series lead over us, thanks in part to Matthews. I don’t know if he will even start for them when he is eligible, he played for us because we lacked some talent and didn’t know what we were doing in the secondary due to coaching. He may not be able to contain himself long enough to be eligible, even at The aU, to find out he is a back-up.
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He’ll do the same things at Auburn that he did at Georgia. I predict he’ll never play a down before he pisses off Malzahn and/or his teammates and is shown the door.
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There is a decent chance of that with him, no doubt. Regarding your earlier question about why do they straighten out when they land at the 2nd school, I think it is as simple as reality wakes some of them up. Most of these problems are with ego maniacs who do not believe rules/laws apply to them until they are shown that they do. For some, that still isn’t enough. With Matthews who knows? He certainly isn’t the brightest bulb but may reign it in enough to fit in with a thug crowd like surrounds The aU program, minor issues will be totally overlooked but only if he proves he can actually play. Not a lot of evidence last year to say he has SEC talent, we were just in a desperate situation in the secondary (and sorely lacking in defensive coaching talent there) or he would have just played in garbage time. We will see, I am much more interested in who will take advantage of this opportunity at UGA than what happens to Matthews.
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Mac, I’ll bet he can’t change his stripes in the classroom. His class attitude was honed long before he attended UGA. I don’t believe any professor worth his salt will permit his antics that he tried here. When you bust up a class, classmates are paying the price along with faculty. Dept Heads will hear from students if classroom faculty let him slide. Once you cross that threshold (and Matthews will out of habit) there’s no going back. A Professor has always had the right to call Campus Security to remove disturbances in the classroom and they often do. Matthews will repeat the offense and word will come via student complaints even if collusion exists elsewhere. He is a ticking clock, that’s all.
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Correct but professors/instructors/grad student TA’s at Auburn think they will be disappeared to Phenix City if they ever tried a stunt like that to exercise their rights with a student/athlete
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But is there a professor at Auburn “worth his salt”?
They’re overdue for a Jan Kemp type of thing..except Auburn folks care little about anything except proving they belong in the same state as their big brother up in Tuskerville.
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Thought he played pretty well for au already. Better than he did for UGA. Won more games for them than UGA last year.
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Well, he doesn’t know how to bat a ball down so, first play on offense at the Auburn game this year Mason should go deep on him…..
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Trigga can’t play immediately at the Barn. He’ll have to sit out a season as a redshirt.
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We hear it all the time “There’s no ME in Team” Well, with Trey, Shaq and Josh Harvey “There’s no Team in ME” either. They, all kiss the guy the see in the mirror every morning. They all can become All American, All SEC and whatever else their selfish tiny little selves can attain. Give me a guy whose DNA consists wholly of UGA.
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+1
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Trigga…..buh bye!
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Trey has the talent and I am confident he will be successful there, like Marshall is, and like Mettenberger was at LSU.
If you screw up at other SEC schools, they will work you until you straighten up. They won’t reward you with time off and they won’t smugly embarrass you through the national media.
They don’t have time for that.
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I agree with your premise in this post BJ and please see mine above in a similar vein. I disagree that Trigga will be a good player for Auburn, though.
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And this has exactly what to do with The Eagles or whoring in the parking lots of home improvement stores?
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Those were pickpockets, sir, pickpockets. And they got me again yesterday.
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Was that what they were doing in my pockets? Damn, don’t know if I am missing anything or not but certainly got my attention and brought back fondling memories.
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Why you guys giving him a hard time? He just wanted to go sit on the bench next year and watch replays of the worst defensive play in UGA history while receiving pats on the back by admiring AU football players and fans.
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It was my understanding that if you transfer to another SEC school you had to sit out 2 years. Does this not apply to the Matthews situation because he was dismissed?
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That would be a good rule to see implemented. Restricting players from becoming members of another conference school during their 5 year eligibility period isn’t asking too much. There are 128 D1 schools available and a couple of hundred more where they can play their college ball.
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Fabulous idea that doesn’t ask for too much by giving malcontents the punishment that they so richly deserve but It may be too soon for the front organization and feeder schools to lay another restraint on the prospects until the appeal periods are over with on the latest salvo of antitrust lawsuits.
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Granted, the time isn’t optimal for any new restrictions but what better time to say we are not rolling over on having some standards that are based in logic? If it is going to be total chaos with unlimited freedom the sport as we know it is gone anyhow, might as well make an effort to address the issues that are needed without regard to the sharks who seem determined to tear the flesh from the bones. I agree some issues need to be addressed, and have for some time, but am unwilling to put up the white flag and roil over.
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Has Herbstreit worried aloud yet about Auburn’s disturbing practice of collecting discipline cases from other schools year after year? Surely Saint Herbie will pine for high standards on the Plains.
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Herbie tried but Kristi told him that Gus said to shut up. That was weird b/c not many blondes tell Herbie to shut up so he checked with Finebaum who told him to do what Kristi said.
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Another interesting thread, not a lot to say that hasn’t been said already.
I, too, have Auburn friends, including a few who played at Auburn, and I can tell you they are totally delusional. That’s the best way I can think of to say it.
The ones who are really close to the program are totally eaten up with it, I mean they worship it. And they think “Gus” is the messiah, who has never, and could never, do anything wrong. They have no sense whatsoever that they’ve ever done anything wrong or immoral, and they truly believe they’re the absolute best people in college football, with the best football program in the country, bar none.
I like my friends but Auburn really sucks, for a lot of reasons. I visited Auburn and really considered going there, as so many SWG kids have over the years. I’m so glad I didn’t. Auburn made itself appealing but, even being young and stupid as I was back then, I could see it wasn’t anything like Georgia.
So glad I didn’t go there. How embarrassing can a program be. I’ve been embarrassed by our play on the field a few times, especially in recent years, more than I’d like. But never embarrassed about Georgia itself. We’ve always been able to hold our heads high, and never more than now.
I wouldn’t trade places with Auburn for anything.
As for Matthews (and JHC, for that matter), that close-up pic of that play as the ball approaches, is an ideal textbook demonstration of how NOT to play a ball. The position, the arms, all of it is wrong. There is no natural ability there to play a ball as it should be played. Maybe Auburn can teach him that.
But I don’t really care. Even if Matthews had made that play, as he should have, he would still be good riddance. I’m just glad he’s gone.
What I’m looking forward to is burning his arse with TD passes. That is, if he sees the field over there.
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Auburn = Oaklan Raiders of CFB. Hopefully they spend 2 decades playing like them.
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Er…be careful what you say, bro. The Raiders were once the top team in the NFL with multiple Super Bowl wins. They fell from grace because their owner got too old and literally went crazy. He’s dead now. They have new management. I fully expect the Raiders to return to prominence–and maybe sooner than most people think. The only thing Auburn and the Raiders have in common is they both charge for tickets to games.
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I almost put something in there about the Davis glory years but figured those were so far gone it wouldn’t be needed. No, the Oakland Raiders are dysfunctional until they accept that cutting corners your organization’s culture for short-term benefit always results in long-term losses. People say Davis got old. I say the NFL got a lot smarter plus all of Davis’ chickens came home to roost.
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You may be right but….Davis is dead.
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But his culture remains. Fixing that takes someone with some serious leadership abilities, and even then it takes time
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“Scandal is not foreign to Auburn football. The program has been on probation six times in the past, including once for its involvement in a pay-for-play scheme in the 1980s and early 1990s that led to the resignation of coach Pat Dye. The Eric Ramsey scandal, named for the player whose illicit audio tapes of meetings with boosters brought it to light, was supposed to be the end of scandal at Auburn.”
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/4/4/4181074/auburn-football-scandal-timeline-2013
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Firing up the grill and the homemade ice cream is turning. Happy Father’s Day to all you Fathers. Call it the gift gap, Americans are expected to spend about $7.4 billion less on gifts and goodies for dads this Father’s Day than they spent on moms for Mother’s Day last month, according to the National Retail Federation. Gentlemen our brides are worth it ;-), but maybe we ought to step our game up.
Had some time to kill waiting on the grill. So I googled some facts.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPGapPgjgswdEpwemYwWXpidk92VkxfR1hzNnJXUnc&usp=sharing#gid=2
Fulmer Cup standings:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPGapPgjgswdEpwemYwWXpidk92VkxfR1hzNnJXUnc&usp=sharing#gid=1
Past Fulmer Cup winners: Past Winners
2013 Vanderbilt Commodores Never officially awarded.Can be considered vacated. (Not sure why it was not awarded, but Alabama was #1 and Florida at # 4 May 6,2013-http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2013/5/6/4305374/fulmer-cupdate-always-look-for-security-cameras)
2012 Arkansas Razorbacks
2011 Auburn Tigers
2010 Georgia Bulldogs
2009 South Florida Bulls
2008 Alabama Crimson Tide
2007 Illinois Illini
2006 Marshall Thundering Herd
Switzer Slam The “Switzer Slam” is awarded to any program that wins the Fulmer Cup, national championship and Heisman Trophy in the same year, with a quarterback costing less than $250,000 (inflation adjusted). In 2011 Auburn became the first, and thus far only, recipient of the Switzer Slam. However, this title is disputed, as many believe Cam Newton cost more than $250,000.
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Nice work, way too much effort on Father’s Day but much appreciated.
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