What’s up with Mason?

So, as you can see from the current Quote of the Day, Ramik Wilson thinks Dawgnation needs to chill a bit about the starting quarterback.  He has a point, to some extent.

Having watched the replay, the wheels don’t come off the wagon until the second offensive play of the second half.  Mason and the passing game were more than serviceable in the second quarter, when the Dawgs came roaring back to take an eleven-point lead.  And he hit his first pass attempt after the half, an out pattern to Conley, for a thirteen-yard gain and a first down.  At that point, he was 12 of 16, for 122 yards, a touchdown and an interception.  He’d also run for a touchdown.

Then came the second interception.  It was bad and Georgia’s passing game essentially shut down from that time on.  Including the pick, Mason went the rest of the game 4 for 9, for 25 yards.  And the stats probably don’t do the play on the field justice.  Georgia’s passing game looked completely constipated in the second half.

The question left to ask is what’s going on?  Seth Emerson and Gentry Estes, who see the team practice regularly, swear on a stack of Bibles that there doesn’t appear to be anything wrong physically with Mason’s arm from what they’ve observed.  That leaves three possibilities:  Mason’s head, the heads of the receivers and the coaches’ heads.  There’s probably some justification in pointing fingers in all three directions.

  • Mason.  Well, if it’s not his arm that’s ailing, then it’s certainly his confidence.  Saturday, he looked like a totally different player than the one we saw pull his team back from the brink against Georgia Tech last November.  I can’t say why totally, but given what we’ve seen in Athens over the past few seasons, there’s one area which I don’t think is getting much attention, per Mason“We’ll go back to work; I’ll go back to work. I’ll learn from my mistakes and all I can do is just keep trusting my protection.”  That’s a nice sentiment, but I don’t think he trusts his offensive line as much as he lets on there.  Neither, for that matter, did Aaron Murray.  I’ve said before that it seems Mason is very quick to decide where to go with a play; I suspect his trust in his linemen is part of that.  Whatever the case, his judgment needs to improve in a hurry.  He’s not seeing open receivers within his range as well as a player who’s been in Bobo’s system for five years should be.
  • The receivers.  What can you say about this?  “While defenses have taken away the deep ball at times this season, Mason said there have been plenty of miscues, especially in the Tennessee game, by the offense. The biggest has come in the form of miscommunication between Mason and his receivers, he said. There were a few times last Saturday where receivers ran the wrong routes or didn’t hit their marks on routes. Some guys didn’t even turn around at the right time for certain passes. Because of that, there’s been some trust lost between Mason and his receivers, especially when it comes to deeper throws. And while Mason admitted he’s been off on a few passes this season, the playbook has been limited because timing with this group of receivers hasn’t been as crisp as it needs to be.”  It’s been a long time since Georgia’s passing game has been that insecure about itself.  And it doesn’t sound like there’s a quick fix, even with the returns of Mitchell, Rumph and Scott-Wesley this week.
  • The coaches.  Okay, Bobo hasn’t been playing with a full deck.  Plus, as overpowering as Georgia’s running game has been, how much do you want to go away from it when games are on the line?  And, as Wilson points out, Georgia is still scoring points without much problem.  But what happened to the offseason promise that we’d see a lot more hurry up because that’s what Mason is most comfortable with?  It seems the coaching staff has really gone all in with the run and sent a message to Mason that game management is his most important task.  Check out Richt’s call-in show answer about why the tight ends weren’t involved in the passing game against Tennessee:  “you’re right, not much to the tight ends. One of those games we felt best way to attack was to run the ball and wear down the Defense.  Keep TG fresh for second half.”

It’s obvious the coaches have made their bed when it comes to offensive strategy this season and they intend to lie in it as long as Todd Gurley can carry the team.  But I don’t think Richt and Bobo are blind to what’s going on with their quarterback.  Mason’s not in a good place right now and they’re going to have to take steps, and soon, to boost his confidence.  Luckily for all, Vanderbilt could offer just the opportunity for that.  I don’t expect all the passing game kinks to be worked out this Saturday, but Mason at least needs to walk off the field without hanging his head down.  If he can’t manage that, I suspect all bets will be off.

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117 responses to “What’s up with Mason?

  1. greeneggboy

    I think everyone would agree the HM needs the game reps to be meaningful and plenty against Vandy, but that’s what Troy was for and look what happened. Why should we expect anything different this weekend?

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    • Gravidy

      My thoughts exactly, sir.

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    • Joe Schmoe

      Agreed. I thought that was a total waste of a tune up game when clearly our passing game needed the work.

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    • Big Shock

      I don’t think that Mason needs more reps. I think the other guys do. Doesn’t matter how many attempts he gets, Mason still won’t be able to throw it more than 10 yards without it being a lollypop. Let’s have the guys with the arm strength to get the ball down the field get some game action. We may need to pass the ball one day.

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      • TuckerDawg

        When Ramsey came in for the one play last week, the first thing I thought was, “take a shot downfield.”

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        • Bazooka Joe

          And he promptly ran the wrong play…. (ok I am assuming it was his fault) – did you notice he and the RB were not on the same page ? We got away with an almost busted play.

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  2. oscardagrch

    I think it was Mason’s head and hopefully it is a short term issue. After that second INT I noticed him staring at open receivers, afraid to pull the trigger. The slight hesitations caused him to have to check down or hold onto the ball…and that was the difference in the passing game.

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  3. William

    Like my Dad used to say “One side says on thing, and the other side says another….the truth is usually somewhere in the middle”. Might just be a combination of all these things. I wonder if some of Mason’s passes float like they do sometimes because he is trying to throw the reciever open. Does that make sense? Its a bit early

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  4. 3rdandGrantham

    “Okay, Bobo hasn’t been playing with a full deck.”

    Are you saying (or acknowledging) that Bobo isn’t exactly the smartest guy in the world, or are you simply referring to available offensive personnel?

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  5. kckd

    He looked beat. I watched Aaron Murray throw three picks against UF and never looked that way. He looked scared to let it go in the second half.

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  6. Juan

    Someone please tell me one strength you see in Mason’s ability. He is inaccurate, he has a wet noodle arm, he can’t read defenses, his play action fakes are atrocious, I could go on and on. He reminds me of the QB Aubs started the year after Cam left. Can’t remember his name…

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    • sUGArdaddy

      What he gives us is 5th yr senior experience, and what you don’t know is how many plays he’s checked into that led to massive runs by gurley and michel.

      Spurrier said post-game that he had a pass called on 3rd and 7 before the 4th and inch play, but Dillon checked into a run. What if they go incomplete there. Spurrier’s punting to us with over a minute left and a timeout and we only need a FG to tie. A 5th yr sr saw something that won the game. Don’t underestimate that with Hutson.

      And, while much of his game seems bad right now, it is soooo hard to judge him because we can’t get open. I mean. WE. CAN’T. GET. OPEN! Looking forward to seeing him with some other guys. Hope he can do it, but Richt and Bobo know more about QBing than just about any combo in the country.

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      • Ginny

        Well said, sUGArdaddy. People underestimate the value playbook knowledge because those aren’t the things we can see with our eyes. Little things like knowing when to throw the ball away instead of taking a sack and wisely checking the play at the line of scrimmage based on how the defense is lined up is why Mason is starting over Ramsey. And agreed on getting open – the receivers certainly have not gotten the separation needed to help Mason out.

        If he can shake off the rust, I have pretty high hopes for Malcolm Mitchell. Kid was a huge weapon before his injuries.

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        • So. IL Dawg

          Give the guy a chance with the experienced receivers who can stretch the field and get open. He made a couple bad throws vs UT. The Defense bailed us out. He’s made one really bad decision all year: the intentional grounding vs USC. If he had that play over, I think he throws the ball into the stands. We need an experienced QB at Mizzou too; and HM gives us the best chance during that game. If we can stretch the field, how much more space will Gurley get when the defense has to worry about WR’s? HM has issues right now; but he hasn’t cost us a game. Why don’t we let the coaches coach? They’ve forgot more than we’ll ever know. This team can still win every game with HM at QB.

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      • Joe Schmoe

        I wonder about this. The commentators were making a big deal about how a lot of the checking responsibility had been delegated to Andrews particularly for the run game. My guess is that Mason doesn’t have as much discretion in this area as Murray did.

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      • Bazooka Joe

        Doesn’t matter if we cant get open – Mason cant get the ball near them.

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    • Cosmic Dawg

      Agree his fakes are bad but his completion % says you’re wrong about his accuracy (and before you go there – WRs bail out other QB’s and drop passes, run bad routes, etc, so this damaged squad is not bailing him out) and I feel pretty sure you can’t judge his read of defenses from the stands.

      I think following AM, the talent behind him, high expectations and very, very little latitude from the fans and the knowledge that this is his one shot have messed with his brain.

      Consider this – last year the KY Tech and bowl games were “nothing to lose” games. We were already out of the hunt so.he could just let ‘er rip. Last year belonged to AM and would forever be AM’s legacy. This year is HM’s legacy.

      I think Bobo saying publicly he wanted Mason to take more chances is telling.

      The noodle arm we think we’re seeing may be lack of confidence.

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  7. Bobo and Richt have a tough job ahead of them. I agree that much of it is in Mason’s head…..a combination of not trusting his protection and being too scared to make a mistake. I don’t know what the right way to deal with that is. If you tell him to just out there and let them rip, and he throws 3 picks in the first half, that’s not gonna be good for anybody. But if you don’t build up his confidence enough to let them rip when needed, that’s not good either.

    Even the shorter stuff, his passes just take so long to get there. Murray threw for a lot of yards, but also a LOT of his yards were after the catch. He’d get the ball to the guy with enough zip that by the time the WR got the ball, he still had enough room to make a guy miss and turn a 5 yard play into a 15 yard play. Right now by the time Mason’s passes get to the WR, the DB is all over them. Maybe that’s a separation issue with the WR as well, but the lack of zip on the ball certainly doesn’t help. That 13 yard out pattern to Conley you referenced, immediately after that play everyone that sits around me were all looking at each other saying “My goodness, that ball takes forever to get there”.

    I agree it’s a combination of all the points you brought up, but I think lack of trust in the OL is the biggest. There were a couple of plays where he had a decent pocket and time, and I mean his feet never stopped dancing. I think the dropoff in arm strength for Mason between when he has his feet set and when he doesn’t is more significant than for some other guys. In other words, his throws when he is well balanced and stepping into it compare favorably to Murray’s well balanced throws. But when not set and not balanced, Murray’s throws didn’t drop off nearly as much as Mason’s do.

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    • greeneggboy

      Well said, Rev. Maybe wouldn’t go so far as to say his passes resemble Murray when his feet at set, but they are much better than when not. The problem is, those passes seem to be few and far between; maybe two stood at last week as serviceable. From what I’ve seen, his good throws are okay to pretty good and his bad throws are lobbed rainbows.

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    • Joe Schmoe

      I guess I don’t really understand why he would trust his protection less than Murray did. The OL play has been better this year (other than stupid penalties) than any year in recent memory and certainly better than during Murray’s tenure. Now, part of that perception may be due to the fact that Mason gets the ball out quicker.

      The ability to stand in and take a shot after delivering the ball is part of the job description for an SEC QB and particularly a UGA QB. He needs to get tougher if this is what is causing his throwing problems.

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  8. I think you nailed it when you questioned whether or not Mason trusted his protection. I think it’s clear he doesn’t. He looks to his first route and if it’s not WIDE OPEN, he checks down. He has not shown the willingness to go through his progressions.

    Also, if you watch this throw against Ga Tech last year, it’s clear something is wrong with Mason, be in confidence or his arm is an issue. The throw he makes to Conley against Tech (53:10 mark) is one he cannot make right now.

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    • Nice comparison. I don’t have the clip, but I bet if you compared that throw to the 13 yard referenced by Senator above, the velocity of the pass is night and day difference. Look at how much he stepped into that throw though. I don’t know if it’s as simple as I’m trying to make it, but I haven’t seen him step into a throw like that all season.

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    • JT

      Wow. Night and day. Could it be that our OL is great at run blocking and regressed at pass blocking or HM simply isn’t being patient?

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  9. No one knows what’s up with HM. We don’t get any highlights of practice or any intelligence from the meeting room about his preparation and performance off the field. We can all speculate about the problems we’re running into, but at its core, he has been put into the role of a game manager because of our running game. He hasn’t been asked to throw for 350 per game. With our group of running backs led by the best since #34, who would blame Richt/Bobo for that?

    By the way, good post, Senator.

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  10. What fresh hell is this?

    The inability to stretch the field hasn’t been disastrous yet but I don’t think that can last. Gurley has been able to overcome the stacked box so far but it’s eventually going to wear him down and there are some defensive lines that will be far more difficult to run into 8 man fronts…say Florida for example, maybe even Auburn.
    I wasn’t a believer in the HM weak-arm thing but this last outing was a little worrying. Even cross-field throws and wideout screens seemed to take forever to get there. With no respect for a deep ball secondaries are going to creep ever closer to the line of scrimmage and while Gurley says that can create some big runs, it’s going to make the short and intermediate passing game even more crowded and difficult for Mason.

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  11. Raleigh St. Claire

    This ongoing harping on the OL is totally without justification. They’ve protected Hutson completely and have provided unbelievable blocking for the rushing attack.

    If Hutson doesn’t trust his line, imagine how they feel about him.

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    • Sanford222view

      I don’t think the blocking has been as good as you might think. Watch some of Gurley’s runs and see how many times he beats defenders on his own to get to the second level of the D. A great example is the run he had last week where he hurdled the Volunteer defender. Before that he stiff armed two different defenders to out of the backfield and around the corner to make positive yardage.

      While the blocking has been good at times it hasn’t been great. It definitely has been inconsistent.

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      • Doggoned

        It’s been a damn sight better than last year, or the year before… or

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        • Raleigh St. Claire

          It’s been good. Blaming anything on the OL this year is simply to look to blame something other than the culprit, and I guess the OL is easy because of past performances.

          The QB problems this year lie in HM’s head and lack of requisite physical ability.

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      • Raleigh St. Claire

        No, it hasn’t. It has been the second most consistent unit behind the RBs all season.

        Of course Gurley has had to beat defenders on his own from time to time; teams are stacking the box and keying on him since they don’t fear HM in the slightest.

        HM has been scared and tentative when he’s had fantastic pockets. If he doesn’t trust his OL, that’s a mental issue on him. The OL has been good this year.

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      • GaskillDawg

        Think the OL blocking looks good because Gurley is so awesome he makes the OL look better than it is? Well, easy thing to test. What results is the OL giving us when Gurley is not the runner?

        Our team has 171 rushes for 1201 yards. That equals 7.02 yards per attempt, best in the SEC. Gurley has 69 carries for 610 yards. Subtract his attempts and yards and all our other runners have 102 carries for 591 yards which is still a damn good 5.79 yards per carry, which is better than Alabama’s results with Henry and Yeldon. OL must be run blocking really well. (Gurley is awesome, btw)

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        • Raleigh St. Claire

          And, keep in mind, these averages are being compiled with other teams knowing we can’t pass for anything this year.

          The OL isn’t even close to being the problem. They are doing their job and doing it as well as they have in a long time at UGA.

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  12. Sanford222view

    My concern besides what everyone else has mentioned is in regards to the comfort and timing with his receivers. That may take even more time with three of hos targets now just getting back to action. Hopefully Mitchell and JSW won’t take long to get on the same page as Mason. I am not getting my hopes up that Rumph will be a big contributor.

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    • law dawg

      I agree. But I think the intangible effect that Mitchell / JSW have is that they will force opponents to put their top DB’s on them, which might allow Conley and Bennett to get better match ups and get open. The second pick against UT was Conley unable to beat UT’s top corner. If Malcolm Mitchel is on the field, perhaps he draws the better DB and Conley has a better chance to get open somewhere.

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      • I think you make a really good point. Conley and Bennett are deadly #2 and #3 guys, but neither is really cut out to be a full-time #1 guy. Will be interesting to see how much DC’s respect Mitchell and/or JSW at first.

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      • Joe Schmoe

        Totally disagree that the 2nd pick was on Conley. That is essentially supposed to be a fade to the side line. If Conley doesn’t create enough separation from the boundary at the LOS (which is what he said), then the worst case scenario is that Mason throws it over his head out of bounds. That ball was under thrown by 3 yards.

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  13. StuDawg

    Mason relies on timing because he doesn’t have the arm strength not to. I keep hearing that things are going to be better when Mitchell and JSW get back but it’s hard to imagine that timing is going to be any better with 2 guys that haven’t played football in a year. To me, this is an issue of a guy not having the skillset (arm strength) that fits our offensive scheme. I get that he’s a good kid who has been loyal to the program. But the comparrison to DJ is a bad one from an athleticism standpoint. Ramsey has the natural skillset that can thrive in our offensive system. Isn’t Vandy the perfect opportunity to let him make some mistakes and learn in a live environment? He’s going to make some bonehead plays. But we are doing that anyway in the collective passing game. At least his arm gives us a chance to run some true play action and capitalize on the box-stacking that Gurley commands. It feels like a waste to make Todd beat teams single handedly.

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  14. Scorpio Jones, III

    I watched Arkansas run the ball four times in a row against TAMU. Did not work all that well, and Arkansas had been completing a pass once in a while.

    For the Georgia offense to work, we have to throw the ball, at least now and then.

    I see all the same things everybody else sees, but all I know for sure is that Mason does not look like the calm, comfortable quarterback I saw in the Tech game last year, and even most of the time against Nebrasky…in the rain. Hell the ball Artie dropped was perfectly placed…perfect.

    It is not just that Mason is not comfortable, it is also that the opposition has seen that Mason is not comfortable, and here they come.

    I have complete confidence that Richt/Bobo are playing the guy they believe gives us the best chance to win football games, and nobody here is qualified to argue with that.

    Or all that means about the guys behind Mason.

    It has been said Mason is a “very cerebral quarterback”…maybe with the full weight of the starting job, Mason is thinking too much. Maybe the offensive line is not as good yet as the offensive line that played in front of Mason at Tech.
    If that’s the case, only time and reps are gonna help.

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    • law dawg

      This. To further your point, I think Seth/Gentry pointed out in their podcast the example of Brandon Douglas. Despite all of his experience, he is behind the depth chart to two true-freshman running backs. It’s not like Richt and Co. are keeping Mason in the game just because he’s a 5th year. They’re keeping him in the game because, based on all those hours of practice that they conduct every week (that we and, to a large extent the media) do not see, Mason gives Georgia the best chance to win. I’m not saying I wouldn’t like to see Bauta run the Wild Dawg, or bring Ramsey in for a few series if we get a comfortable lead on Vandy — but with a Heisman-caliber running back on our team and complete control of winning the SEC East, we’re not about to see a new starting QB. And we shouldn’t.

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      • greeneggboy

        Maybe the notion that HM “gives Georgia the best chance to win” is not so much a valid argument, but instead an admission that the coaching staff showed up unprepared for the season. Whether by recruiting deficiency or inadequate development of Ramsey, their best option- despite 4 years in the system- is playing off an abridged playbook.

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        • sUGArdaddy

          I can’t believe they don’t have Johnny Unitas ready to step in every season. What is it with these to bozos coaching our QBs? Don’t they know they’re supposed to have the next Matt Stafford waiting in the wings. They obviously can’t recruit or coach the QB position.

          Yes, if you want to seem foolish on a UGA blog, go on a rant about Richt and Bobo’s QB recruiting and development. They are the single best combo in America at that position. They’ve coached the SECs wins leader, the SEC’s all-time leading passer, and a number 1 overall draft pick. They’ve lured 4 and 5 star kids from Texas, Florida, South Carolina and the next one is coming from Washington. They turned Joe Cox into a serviceable SEC QB.

          Lord, we’re 3-1. Hutson hasn’t played great. Can we let him play till the two experts decide he shouldn’t be the guy? These two guys played DJ with David because they thought it would help, they played Stafford as a true freshman because he was the best option. They’ll do the same here.

          For the record, I think we’ll see Ramsey early this week for a series. Nothing pejorative. We’ve got to get him ready to play and he hasn’t had enough meaningful snaps.

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          • greeneggboy

            Calm down, Sug. I agree that Richt and Bobo are the best QB coaches in the biz. But just because they’re the best doesn’t mean they didn’t drop the ball by neither picking up a decent QB between Mason and Ramsey nor focussing more on Ramsey since he’s been in Athens.

            And before you point out how much more the coaches know than me, consider the fact that every opposing defensive coordinator we play this year does as well. Life will only get worse for Mason because that UT tape is out there.

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          • The other Doug

            Are you George Bobo?

            Sheesh, somebody can say something negative about Bobo and they aren’t calling for his head or asking where his crayon is.

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      • I wonder how much of this is (blind) loyalty. (Granted the kid stayed–and I’m glad he did.) This is all the same shit they said about Cox too. There was a bunch of smoke blown about how good and prepared he was. “We’ll field the QB that gives us the best chance to win.” I think it is more accurate to say “We’ll play the QB that gives us the best chance not to lose because of mistakes.” If I recall, Favre threw more interceptions than anybody…but he also threw a helluva lot of td passes and won a whole bunch of games too.

        Had he transferred…what’s the worst that happens at the end of last season? We finish 0-2 (Yes one of those is to tech), rather than 1-1 in a dismal season? That is what? 15 practices worth of reps with the 1s lost for one of the young guys in preparation for the last 2 games.

        I’m not saying bench Mason–but hell, how much worse could the other guys be!? Confidence be damned–you either get better or someone else is going to play.

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        • The other Doug

          Richt and Bobo have seen the other guys practice. That’s what worries me the most.

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        • BrightOwl

          The biggest flaw in Joe Cox’s game was his proclivity to throw interceptions. Sometimes those picks were really, really bad. (“I kind of saw him there, but I threw it anyway.”) So I don’t really agree that he was playing because he didn’t make mistakes.

          Like Hutson, Joe played because he was the best option available at the time.

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        • sUGArdaddy

          It can be a whole lot worse.

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      • Raleigh St. Claire

        That’s the wrong thought process, though. The question is whether based on performance to date, we can maintain that control with HM at QB.

        He may look the best Mon – Fri, but it’s Saturday that counts. And it’s clear CMR is at least a little concerned about that fact going forward.

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  15. HVL Dawg

    You think he’s quick to decide where to throw? During the game I kept finding myself shouting, “Get rid of the ball!” I thought he was standing in there too long. But maybe he has to watch the receivers to find out where they decided to go.

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  16. Macallanlover

    I am greatly encouraged about Emerson’s opinion about the arm strength because the other contributing factors can be fixed/improved. I can understand the concern about the OL’s inconsistency but it hasn’t looked bad until the TN game. Certainly the confidence factor after the two bad picks last week is understandable to a QB that didn’t have a blemish before that point. Now he has to get that golfer and kicker “don’t look back” attitude and trust his next effort. The very best passers have crazy, hard to understand INTs but they shake them off and move on. HM will have to do that or he is toast; getting 2-3 of his best receivers back should help with this. Vandy may be coming up at just the perfect time for us.

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    • Yep, even our beloved David Greene used to seem to always have one head scratcher of an interception per game, usually early in the game. Then he would settle down and carve up the defense the rest of the game. It got to the point that me and my buddies would joke that we hoped he would throw an interception on the first drive of the game every game, because his play after the interception was always so much better than before. 🙂

      It would be great if Mason could come out and just decide to trust his guys, make the throws and see what happens. If there’s a game we can afford some potential mistakes, it should be Vandy. We’ll see.

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  17. Slaw Dawg

    I thought from the git go that the problem in the UT game was a mental or confidence thing with Mason rather than arm strength, but re-watching the 3d quarter throws, there’s some zip missing. We’ll find out soon if the head case thing/sore arm (?) thing was temporary or if he has the discipline/arm strength to overcome it. If not, we’ll have problems with MO, where we’ll need to score a lotta points–Mauk’s gonna light up our secondary.

    I also hope we get a back up QB or 2 in there for more snaps against Vandy. And not just in relief–I’d like to see Bauta used as a change of pace QB; may be esp. helpful with Michel out for a few weeks. Bobo with a fatter playbook is dangerous, and would give MO something to think about.

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  18. Scott W.

    If you are complaining that he doesn’t have the zip that he showed at Bobby Dood the comparison isn’t accurate. When entering the Tect game he had nothing but upside in front of him. If he failed that’s fine UGA was already behind. Now he has the best player in the country and if UGA fails most of the blame will fall on him.

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  19. Only way I see the returning WR help is if he is throwing screens, making use of their speed. He’s shown zero arm strength to stretch the field, his play fakes are weak and he locks in on guys. The INT on the PA pass was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. He carried out the fake, turned, and lobbed the ball up. Makes it even harder to understand why Bobo started the second half the way he did. Ex QB ego is all I have because Mason hasn’t shown any ability to carry this offense. I realize my opinion is invalid since I’m not a championship OC like everyone else here. Lol

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  20. Moe Pritchett

    I reckon we now know the reason he rode the pine for the last four years. But I’m just a peckerwood who lives in the woods with too many guns.

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    • QB aren’t like RB you can’t just alternate them when one is tired. Murray was the QB. That’s pretty much it.
      I don’t believe that Mason all of the sudden forgot how to play QB. When he stepped in for Murray against Kentucky he threw the ball 20 times for 200 yards. In his two starts afterwards he he averaged over 37 passes and over 300 yards a game. He looked fine to me during the spring game. The receivers we lost to graduation that contributed at Tech and Nebraska… Lynch(30,69-should of had more) McGowan(9,0) and Wooten(21,0). Lynch-DGD- contributed the most of that group but there we several games with only one reception and he had nil against uT in 2013!
      Meh. When all Mason got was 10 reps against Troy all the armchair, Monday morning qbs in my group said ” Yeah… he’s hurt. Rest that shoulder and get ready for uT” Hudson has injured that shoulder shoulder somehow and it probably hurts like hell to drive that ball into a window like he had been able to do before. Go back and look at his first start at Tech. There were times he released the ball before his receiver made his turn to face the qb. If Ramsey had some accuracy to go along with his cannon and the coaches were comfortable with his knowledge of the playbook, he would be getting some reps. As the season progresses it will be harder on Hudson to make those 15 yard completions. When he does don’t look for a whole lot of YAC as the defender will be there at the same time as the ball or shortly there after. Murray was a redshirt freshman when he started. Park?

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    • Raleigh St. Claire

      Come on.

      He was on the bench because he was recruited to be Murray’s backup and Murray became the most prolific passer in SEC history.

      That’s why he was on the bench.

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  21. BrightOwl

    I’ve said enough about what Mason has done so far. I’d rather speak about what I hope he’ll accomplish going forward.

    We’ve got a tough October ahead of us. A scrappy Vandy team followed by two long road trips against opponents that will be just as hungry for a win as UT and USCe were. After that, we’ve got a November filled with rivalry games starting with a Gator team that would love to break a losing streak.

    Gurley, Chubb et al. might be good enough to win these games on their own. Maybe. But if we can add an efficient passing game, we can crush these guys. Otherwise they’ll be close games that could go either way.

    Go Dawgs.

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  22. it seems Mason is very quick to decide where to go with a play

    Not trying to quibble here but, for clarity’s sake, do you mean HM completely discounts his 2nd and 3rd reads? That it’s his first read, and if that isn’t there or doesn’t work, that’s it?
    ~~~

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  23. I have here in my hand a list of 205 Mason haters that were made known to D Huckaby at Dawgbone as being members of the GTP Party and could even possibly be some of the very same subversives that post to Sports and Grits, who nevertheless are still working in concert to shape some of the very negative ideas on this and other blogs!

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    • TuckerDawg

      Only 205?

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      • Macallanlover

        Does that “GTP” stand for Georgia Tea Party? Lord knows I don’t want to end up on a list of folks that would dare stand for keeping our country free of a government spinning totally out of control. Imagine subversives right here among us. And it took a group out to lynch our only experienced QB to uncover what is really going on. JK. (Disclaimer: I have never had any affiliation with the organization called the Tea Party. Which doesn’t mean I don’t agree with many of the principles some of their followers have espoused.)

        I do think the HM attackers should back off until we see what we get with a full arsenal of receivers. I am with everyone on being concerned but if Mason is being misjudged about his arm strength (and those who attend practices say we are….coaches, media, players) then everyone needs to keep their powder dry until we are eliminated from contention for the East. This seems correct to me, I don’t think Richt/Bobo would be this deep into the season without more meaningful snaps to backups if Mason really were having problems with velocity or throwing a ball 40+ yards. That doesn’t make sense to me. I do hope Saturday gives us another chance to show an improved passing attack, let TG get 100+, and let the 2 backup QBs get some playing time. We have a rough stretch ahead and need all non-injured Dawgs ready to step in and carry part of the load.

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        • sUGArdaddy

          Right. I think the internet has ruined the game. I know the backup QB is always the most popular guy, but I miss the days we could just cheer for our guys. Now, it’s “I wish our guy wasn’t our guy and our guy was like their guy, then we’d have the best guy.” UGA football is fun for me. Hutson is a great kid who picked UGA and seems to love the dawgs like I do. I’d be delighted to see him succeed. If he doesn’t improve, I trust Bobo and Richt to act appropriately. There haven’t been many instances in Richt’s 14 years we didn’t play the best guy, and he pulled his golden-armed freshman out of a game to beat Colorado.

          Hutson isn’t JTIII, God bless him. I just don’t understand the mindset of “Oh my gosh he’s horrible and we’re going to get killed by everyone including vandy if we leave him in there!” He needs to improve, but he hasn’t been awful. He did something in Columbia Stafford and Murray never did, throw a TD. He actually threw 2. He’s been careful with the ball. I’m hoping he lets it rip and writes a great last 2/3 of the season. I think Ramsey is going to be a fine QB, but young QBs often cost you some games.

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  24. AusDawg85

    Reading all of this expert analysis, particularly the insights on Mason’s physical and mental condition, I’ve changed my mind…

    Shoot the bastard and put him out of our misery!

    #fansupport

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  25. Mary Kate Danaher

    Senator, correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Vandy always give the Dawgs their best shot?

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  26. I refuse to have faith in his ability to carry this offense, in any way, based solely on what anyone says. I’ve watched every game he’s played in and I’ve seen nothing from him that leads me to believe he could carry if our running game gets shut down. The proof has been on the field.

    I expect people to take up for him since he is what we have to roll with but where is the objectivity? It’s like I’m supposed to wear blinders because he’s the Georgia QB. It’s funny that the folks trying to be objective and honest about what he’s done are haters. Hell….sign me up then because I refuse to believe what I’m told when it doesn’t match what has happened. Hopefully something amazing will happen with the return of the injured guys though I don’t know how they’ll help his arm strength or blindly lobbing the ball on a PA pass. Their speed and ability should help with the tunnel screens and short passes, though. He could have some of those 300+ yard games where he doesn’t even throw 100 yards down field. Hopefully, he has the ability to match the talk because he’s gonna have to if we’re going back to the dome because it’s obvious that Bobo is going to continue to put it on him. Hopefully we won’t lose any more games because of it.

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    • I refuse to have faith in his ability to carry this offense, in any way, based solely on what anyone says. I’ve watched every game he’s played in and I’ve seen nothing from him that leads me to believe he could carry if our running game gets shut down. I think you made a typo… but non the less I shall proceed to enlighten you.—>

      Now that is some serious talking outta your ass right there. I don’t mind telling you. And that is just what I am saying.
      We averaged 2.25 yards rushing against Nebraska! HELLO! JABOO! Less than a 100 yards. Have a look… take a gander. Lowest production of our entire 2013 season. Running game was kinda stagnant. You can read here … shut down. Mason threw for 320+ yards. That number was good enough to tie Murray’s RSFresh year high #.. in mid form against Vandy. You can read here… carried the offense against Cornhuskers. . We should have won that game on his arm. If we Catch the damn Ball. Point being … I refuse to have any faith in your football acumen when you MSU and pull SOYA. Next time. Do your homework. You oughta have to sit in the corner with Ivy.
      Just sayin’

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      • If you consider 300 yards in a loss to be “carrying” then I’m in the wrong place for football acumen. Sad thing is…he seems to have regressed now that this is his team but, yes, everything is wonderful and he’s demonstrated the ability to lead this team to great things.

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        • AthensHomerDawg

          Oh my. Thaz some serious uncoachable acumen right there my man. 99 yard… 4th and forever pass play slip ur memory. Lynch dropped pass?
          I won’t bring up Auburn victory in spite of Murray ‘ s super hero efforts.
          The reason we didn’t win it all last year is the same reason why we wont this year. And it ain’t on the qb. Jeepers what’s the matter with you Jaboo?

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          • Last year being key words. What about this year? Exactly! What’s wrong with me? Oh…I don’t know. Probably the fact that a fail to see his mythical greatness you guys are trying to push. Hell…we won Saturday in spite of him.

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      • So is this today’s A-hole comment from Homer? Or can we look forward to another?
        ~~~

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      • The ATH

        That 320 yards came on about 40 passes, almost all of which went to RBs and TEs. I’m sure he’s a nice kid, but he’s got no arm.

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  27. RandallPinkFloyd

    Senator, do you think any of this has to do with the kid thinking too much in regards to his throwing motion? I know you mentioned on here before that Bobo’s dad worked with him to change something in his motion. I wonder if he’s thinking about that too much and trying too hard to perfect it rather than ‘letting it rip’.

    If you go back and watch Tech and UK highlights from Hutson, there is velocity on his balls. I’m just not sure where it would have went if he doesn’t have a dead arm.

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  28. Will Trane

    Thin you are possibly right Senator…head game and starts with Mason.
    One guy who probably know is his center and he ain’t talking, after he calls the blocking schemes
    Is he holding the ball to long in progressions, perhaps. Watch his release point, body torque, and feet set-up. He seems slow for some reason. Offense line. Think they protect good. After all Mason sits there with a very talented TB and others. Gurley is likely to take it to the house on any play. Thus Mason has more time to get the ball out. Defenses have to read the blocks, angles, and Gurley first. Mason has an advantage there.
    I do not know what is going on, but some of the passes plays do not look like SEC caliber. Receivers. Possibly. But he is suppose to be getting those back. So opponents and fans will get answer quick about velocity, distance, and communication. Those answers are coming soon.
    Troy vs Vandy. I said the Troy game was weird re plays and personnel. Even the Troy coach thought the Dawgs would open the passing game up to get in reps…they schemed for it. Then against UT, the short and middle routes with TE were limited. One throw where there was miscommunication and imcomplete. The INTs were bad throws to me. Has 2 ints in one game. Not really stuck on that. Heck Bo Wallace at Ole Miss has had games with 2 and 3. But their offense game plan production is built for the pass and up tempo + plays.
    Is Mason’s throws down from Murray’s past 3 years. do not have numbers but it comes across that way.
    I think the coaches have shutterd the passing game due to running game [control the ball, reduce turnovers, reduce number of play] because they see limitations in the passing game re Mason’s ability, receiver depth, and skill.
    But Vandy will probably play UGA tight Saturday. More of the puzzle comes into play for Mason’s 6 game experience.
    Head calls. Until last season’s last 2 games [1-1] his performance was so-so and many wanted to see him for awhile. They have 4 more games. Perplexed. Lets go back to his last game at Lassister High. In first 2 games of state playoffs he throws for 14 TD and 1,000yards. Then came Colquitt County. 289 yards of passing, no TD, six sacks, and 5 INTs…eliminated from playoffs.
    In fairness to him he has been in the sideline arena for 4 season. That is a lot of seeing, but not much doing. Maybe his arm is dead from overwork over the summer. But that is coaching responsiblity there.
    If he comes out against Vandy and hits Mitchell or Scott Wesley for a 40 yarder down the sidelines on time and in tight coverage…is he back. The answers are going to come quickly Saturday. Bobo has to shown Mizziou something to think about plus the rest of the team.

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  29. Will Trane

    Deep threat. Stretching the field. Is that always distance from LOS. Or is it a receiver who can get off the LOS, get separation in 7-10 yards, have the hands to get the ball, and take it in. That is the deep threat for me… if you are scrimmaging between the 30’s and it is 1st & 10 or 3rd & 15+ and you need the distance, score, chain movement, clock movement, and clock control. What combos can give you that. That is what is missing in the Dawg passing attack.

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    • There is one play that, to me, says where our deep threat is…or isn’t. The “deep” pass to McKenzie early in the USC game. He had to come back for a 25ish yards pass, not even a bomb. If he leads him at all he walks into the endzone. I don’t see how having Mitchell and Wesley back will help in the deep game if our QB can’t throw a decent deep ball. At this point it seems like our deep plays will comes from long runs and short passes broken long by the ability of the WRs. I wish there was evidence to the contrary but there isn’t.

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      • AthensHomerDawg

        JSW waited on that long pass from Murray in the uSC game. If he hadn’t been so wide open and Sooooo fast it wouldn’t have been 6. Meh..ur cherry pickin’

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        • No idea why you’re bringing up Murray and last season. Maybe it’s to distract me from Mason and this season…the only one that matters to me. Fact is….we’ve had to win in spite of him. Hopefully Bobo learned his lesson after the start of the second half Saturday. Fortunately, UT didn’t want or wasn’t good enough to take what were were trying to give them because we served it up. Unfortunately, USC was. Instead of letting our best player try to win it he must have been having flashbacks to his last second pass for the win against Tech on that rainy day in Atlanta.

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    • Noonan

      Will Trane. Is he on drugs. Is he an android. do not have concrete evidence but seems likely.
      That is what I am wondering…weird syntax. lots of thoughts, but do they form a coherent post. You tell me. maybe we learn more later, maybe don’t.
      posting from a cell phone…perhaps or could he be a programmed text generator.

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  30. hot12dog

    One simple question, how can it be that in 5 years no one noticed that Mason was throwing ducks? Is the coaching that stupid?

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  31. Dog in Fla

    “Mason’s not in a good place right now and they’re going to have to take steps, and soon, to boost his confidence.”

    They’re going to need a bigger consultant

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  32. Mayor

    Everybody get off Mason’s ass. He’s basically a fifth year freshman. The more games he plays the better he’ll get. Also, plenty of teams win lots of games with a game manager at QB. Remember Buck Belue?

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  33. Bulldog Joe

    Give Tennessee credit. They had two weeks to prepare for a passing offense their DC and DB coaches saw every day for years.

    Being in the stadium you can see the entire field and Tennessee did a great job covering all our routes. Even the TD pass was well-covered.

    We will get better with a full complement of receivers and reps.

    Quit yer bitchin’.

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  34. 69Dawg

    I’m afraid HM has adopted the role of Game Manager too well. He seems to be playing not to lose, instead of just playing. I agree with the above theories that it’s more mental. Last year was his ride to the rescue year. The year was over from a championship standpoint. He played loose. This year the full weight of QBing the Dawgs with the high expectations (whether real or imaged} make the pressure much greater. The fans have been focused on the running game and just asking HM not to F it up. He’s playing not to F it up and it killing his timing with his receivers. In short he is overthinking. I hope Bobo/Richt can calm him down but head cases are the hardest to cure.

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    • Lrgk9

      We get everybody’s best shot; including Ludicrous Lousy Penn Wagers and his herd of ilk.

      Mason’s hesitation on open receivers maybe his frustration that the receiver ran the wrong route on the tree. He flat out said that on the TD to Chubb.

      Safeties are going to camp 10 yards back until Mason throws a couple completions over their heads. They weren’t camping on the banks of the Wabash the first few games and that provided a lot more space.

      I’m gonna let Richt and Bobo worry about it.

      My contribution to Bluto hitting a 110+ replies.

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    • He’s playing not to F it up and it killing his timing with his receivers. In short he is overthinking. I hope Bobo/Richt can calm him down but head cases are the hardest to cure.

      I hope they can. They couldn’t always calm Murray down, though Bobo got pretty good at it, usually at halftime, after 2+ years of Murray starting.

      I think (assuming he doesn’t have am arm issue), that Mason just needs to clear his head, forget everything, and go play. This game is supposed to be fun. That’s the only reason you play it at a high level. Just forget everything, and go out there and play like he played in HS, with the same spirit and mentality.

      He’s done a good job handling the press and the pressure of the position, and he’s been very forthright and honest. But I think maybe it’s wearing on him. Man, I hate it for him we didn’t win the SC game (and it wasn’t his fault), because things would be different for him, just better.

      However they handle it, he has to regroup and go from here. Yeah, I want Ramsey to get reps when possible. But Mason has my full support.
      ~~~

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  35. TMC DAWG

    I believe that the game is in HMS head right now. At the game lasts Saturday I saw open recievers on deep routes. He is holding the ball to long. Sure he does not have a big arm, but if he cannot handle the pocket pressure he has 2 strikes against him BEFORE he throws.

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  36. Scorpio Jones, III

    My God…the analysts…and its only the internet.

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  37. Will Trane

    You know what they say about Florida. Good thing they can play football at one of the institutions there, because they can not do anything else in the state.
    If you do not like what I say, do not read them.
    Peggy Noonan of the ???
    Austell…like in Cobb County…ever seen those high school teams…always rated high and flame out. Even a star QB is getting parked at LSU.

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