Mumme Poll, Week 14

Well, aren’t we feeling sorry for ourselves.  Not only is Georgia out of the MP this week, but Georgia Tech and Clemson each received a vote.

Rank Team Votes
1 Alabama 32
1 Oregon 32
3 Florida State 31
3 TCU 31
3 Baylor 31
6 Ohio State 26
7 Arizona 23
8 Mississippi State 15
9 Michigan State 11
10 Mississippi 9
11 Wisconsin 6
12 Kansas State 4
13 Missouri 3
14 Clemson 1
14 Georgia Tech 1

Nice.

I’m still getting a kick out of how we keep solving the TCU/Baylor debate, but the selection committee won’t likely have that luxury.  Expect the first serious screams about needing an eight-team field to arise from that issue.

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21 responses to “Mumme Poll, Week 14

  1. I put TCU and Baylor in my 8, but I don’t believe that 2 teams that give up 61 and 58 points in a non-overtime game have any business claiming they are the best team in the country. Call it a personal bias, but I really don’t think either of them is playoff worthy for this reason alone.

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  2. mwo

    I heard yesterday that the Commissioner of the Big 12 is going to declare Baylor and TCU co-champions provided Baylor beats Kansas State this weekend. Ya think he is jockeying for 2 berths?

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    • reipar

      I really don’t think it matters what he calls them. Unless Bama, FSU, or Oregon falter this weekend the Big 12 is only getting one team in.

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      • Dawgoholic

        I’m not sure how that is hard – if you determine that TCU and Baylor are 4 & 5, you go to head-to-head. Are we saying that after the semis we should consider one of the losers for the finals because they have a better loss/SOS/game control than the team that just beat them? Head to head results are the easiest way to differentiate between two teams.

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      • Uglydawg

        I’d leave FSU out. I wouldn’t be suprised if GT beats them.

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        • Dawgoholic

          I can’t see how anyone leaves out the undefeated defending national champs – who were undefeated the prior year too. I agree that last year shouldn’t matter in general but disagree that it should not matter as to last year’s champs – especially if unbeaten the prior year.

          The champ has to be beaten – should never be voted out.

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          • Hackerdog

            It shouldn’t matter, except when it matters? Okay.

            Each year is a discrete season. It’s like a coin flip. If you just flipped heads 10 times in a row, you still have a 50/50 shot at flipping another heads.

            FSU has struggled against a weak schedule. And pointing out what they did last year doesn’t count. Auburn was pretty good last year, too. Should they still be a top 10 team based on last year? Of course not.

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        • pete

          GT just won their National Championship. They won’t have any heart left for FSU.

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  3. Macallanlover

    You have to admit that seven of those top 8, I exclude ohio, would make a fun 3 round playoff. Folks have to get over the “best” team objective, that argument could go on forever and no 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc. playoff will promise you that. You just want a champion at the end, and you want it won, not awarded.

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    • Hackerdog

      Why dismiss the notion of a “best” team and insist on a champion that is “won?” Why not simply accept that a champion will be drawn at random? That would be undisputed, correct? I mean, that’s the most important thing. Not that the best team is considered the champion. But just that we have an unambiguous selection process for crowning a champion. There are dozens of more unambiguous and less biased processes for crowning a champion than a playoff.

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      • Macallanlover

        I agree that many will equate the champion as “best”, it just doesn’t mean that. Many consider the Super Bowl, World Series, NCAA Basketball, etc. as “best” but it just isn’t necessarily so, and a is always arguable with some very good rationale. My point is that feeling any system, regardless of size or record will identify an acceptable “best” is like looking for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Those who expect that will always be disappointed, imo. You cans ay they were better than “X” on that day, or one of the best, but that is about it without a debate. Since it is unobtainable, to me at least, I don’t feel we should judge any playoff by that. If so, any Masters, or US Open, not won by Tiger Woods in a 20 year period has a fraud for a champion using that microcosm and the same logic because those guys weren’t the “best”.

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  4. Uglydawg

    True, Mac. It’s a championship..not a declaration of “best”..because that will always be debatable. But “championship” is firm.

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  5. AusDawg85

    Yep…moving the argument to who is the #4 vs. #5 team in the country through an entirely arbitrary, non-transparent system is a great solution…for the #2 and #3 teams anyway.

    Something tells me the committee members will be pulling for Kansas St. Saturday.

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  6. Macallanlover

    True, but not as hard as for Bama, or FSU. I would love to see the chaos if a couple of the top group goes down.

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    • Eh

      Thing is, statistically speaking, that’s going to happen. Despite being a Mizzou and Arizona fan, my money would be on FSU losing.

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    • 69Dawg

      All FSU has to do is watch the tape of the GT v UGA game to see what not to do. I don’t think FSU has played more than one good quarter a game this whole season. When Winston gets focused he is great but damn he looks like he has to sober/come down in the forth quarter to play great. Maybe Jimbo will keep him out of the MJ this week, that would be a change.

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  7. Coastal Dawg

    Senator, was there a problem with the voting Sunday? I tried to fill out my ballot at about 6:30 Sunday and it said voting was closed for the week.

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