Bu..bu..but Georgia’s loaded!

Far be it from me to get in the way of a comment meme, but I’m not sure how you reconcile the idea that Georgia’s current talent is top-tier with the reality that just one Dawg made the coaches All-SEC first team.  Only UT and Vandy got goose eggs in that department.

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  1. MGW

    Lots of freshmen on this year’s team. I expected at least one game where freshmen finally acted like freshmen. I think thats what Florida was, at least in part.

    But the shame is the staff otherwise did a good job of putting these young guys in a position to succeed, and the kids responded well… and then two late game decisions in the South Carolina and Tech games undid what was almost a very very good season in spite of the youth.

    Thats the frustrating thing about it to me.

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  2. 3rdandGrantham

    This is an easy one: You gotta coach ’em up!

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  3. ugadawgguy

    Neither Tennessee nor Vanderbilt had any first-team all-SEC players…and Tennessee had only one second-teamer. That’s somewhat surprising, although nearly their entire roster is comprised of underclassmen.

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    • Hackerdog

      AJ Johnson was probably the best linebacker in the SEC. I think he was a sure first teamer if he weren’t suspended.

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  4. How dare you question the “nobody does less with more” Richt meme!!

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  5. ellis

    Certainly alot of young players, but you also can’t look at a list where one guy gets picked at each position out of 12 teams that are amongst the best in the nation and generalize. Few people would argue that recruiting is a great problem at UGA. What we accomplish with the undeniable talent after the fact is what burns most fans.

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    • Certainly alot of young players, but you also can’t look at a list where one guy gets picked at each position out of 12 teams that are amongst the best in the nation and generalize.

      You’re right. It’s probably just a coincidence that ‘Bama has four first-teamers and Ole Miss and MSU have three apiece.

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      • ellis

        All great teams that got the most out of the talent they have. Bama is Bama, great talent, best coached. The Mississippi teams had a great year. There have been years when we have had multiple players as well.

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      • Mayor

        You know Senator, when the team wins the players get recognized. If Georgia had won 11 games this season (and the Dawgs were VERY close to doing just that) the coaches likely would have elevated Hererra, Wilson and Swann to first team and some Georgia guys not mentioned would have made second team. Winning does that.

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    • MGW

      We had a lot of undeniable talent leave the team in the secondary, and get injured/suspended on offense. That is undeniable.

      Still, blown opportunities against Tech and South Carolina, in spite of that, were frustrating.

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  6. MGW

    Can’t help but wonder what this season looks like if Harvey-Clemmons, Matthews and Wiggins stick around, and Gurley doesn’t get suspended or injured.

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    • etdawg

      You’re right…the season could have been even worse. Those guys are talented, but you cant play the “wonder what” game. Suppose Gurley gets hurt in the Mizz game and the disgruntled DBs cause drama in the locker room and we all watch the dawgs implode against UF on national TV. Waste of time going down the what if road.

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  7. Charlottedawg

    Isn’t this a reflection of our poor roster management? Which is a direct area of responsibility for the coaching staff? When you perrenially under sign then kick kids off the team at a faster rate than the rest of the conference this isn’t surprising. It’s also a big reason the dream team has only produced one draft pick and he was a third rounder at that.

    The “doing more with less” meme is a pervasive form of cfb stupidity. Coaches are tasked with recruiting and development. If the team or position group chronically doesn’t have enough talent it means the coach(es) suck. At a big time program with sufficient resources the win loss record is a direct reflection of the quality of the coaching staff.

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  8. Jim

    Perhaps this has something to do with how the talent is coached (or not coached) once it gets to Athens? Dunno, but I don’t think a lack of talent is to blame for our 3 losses this year

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  9. GaskillDawg

    You don’t think a lack of talent at DB had anything to do with or record?

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    • Dawg Vegas

      I do

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    • Normaltown Mike

      According to the mouth-breathers, the lack of talent at DB is the fault of our DC who “doesn’t want to win a championship”

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    • Jim

      If there is a position lacking talent, it is DB given all of the departures.

      Despite that lack of talent, we were in a position with less than 5 minutes to go to win two more games, so, no, i do not think a lack of talent at DB cost us the SC or GT games. It certainly contributed to the SC loss but it wasn’t what cost us the game. And Florida only attempted something like 3 passes, so our DBs had nothing to do with that unless you want to blame them for not tackling well when the running backs got into the secondary.

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    • Cosmic Dawg

      Unless I’m reading it wrong, CFB Stats has our passing defense rated #2 in the country. I don’t remember our DB’s getting scorched often this year.

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      • Will (The Other One)

        Outside the UT and SCar games, the only times I remember anything bad were Watson’s first series on offense with Clemson and the TEs eating us alive over the middle in the 2nd half of the Arkansas game. Massive improvement over 3rd and Grantham in the pass D department.

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      • Hackerdog

        An indirect effect of our DBs is that Pruitt wasn’t confident playing man coverage, which allows extra defenders in run support. We often played zone with linebackers playing both run and pass.

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  10. watcher16

    Pretty low hanging fruit for the trolls here, Senator!

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  11. Normaltown Mike

    bu..bu..bu…but, Jamie Newberg said Georgia signed a bunch of “Five Star” and “can’t miss” players

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  12. PTC DAWG

    In all fairness, in a 14 team conference, you are going to see less and less from each team, this isn’t the 10 team SEC anymore..sigh..

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  13. Bright Idea

    People judge talent by recruiting rankings instead of closely eyeballing other teams. Bama, FSU and yes Florida has more LOS talent than Georgia. Even Herrera and Ramik are overachievers IMO.

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    • RocketDawg

      This! The SEC is a line of scrimmage league and for the last few years we haven’t had the horses to dominate every game. This slowly being corrected as we saw on the O-line this year and we should see an improvement on the D-line next year with this batch of recruits.

      It is amazing in some respects that we have managed to lead or be at the top of the league in scoring with an average Offensive line. They were much improved and more consistent this year (with the exception of Tech) than in years past. The D-line was average at best this year and the UF/Tech games were an example of that. Both games our line was blown off the ball and our LB’s were reacting instead of attacking the ball carriers.

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  14. dudemankind

    If a player “misses” it is because of either a recruiter’s misjudgement of their potential, unlucky circumstance, or poor coaching. Richt should have a handle on everything except the unlucky part right?

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    • RocketDawg

      I think it is a little bit of everything. We recruit the same kids that the rest of the SEC is going after so it isn’t an evaluation thing (unless every team in the league is wrong). Lineman are hard to project at the next level and you never know how well they are going to carry weight or improve from a strength perspective. Some of the “skill” guys are maxed out when they get to college and never get any better, while others become complete knuckleheads (see Matthews, Trey. Harvey-Clemons, Josh) and get kicked off the team. Kids with poor or entitled attitudes aren’t going to take to coaching either so their improvement will be stunted in that regard.

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      • ClydeBoogie

        Once again, you are correct my friend! Keep it up RocketD and you are getting a xmas card my friend. I think you are spot on and my feline sidekick ClydeBoogie thinks so as well.

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      • GaskillDawg

        Don’t forget the QB everyone wanted who was supposed to be the upperclassman starter, Christina Lemay, who transferred out after not being able to command the offense. Mason had a good year and was very efficient for us, but the recruiting plan was that Lemay would follow Murray. Lemay did throw a pretty pass.

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        • RocketDawg

          Exactly! It was never intended for Mason to be the starter here but more of a “this guy can play if Murray goes down” kind of thing. LeMay was supposed to be DJ Shockley 2.0 with a better arm and SHOULD have been the starter this year and next where RJr Brice Ramsey would have taken over. This is the same line of progression Richt had as OC at FSU. It seemed that they had a 2 yr starter at QB with a RJr ready to step in when that guy graduated. I think missing his senior year in HS set him back in a way he could never recover from. He is 2nd string at Jax State this year if that tells you anything.

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  15. Rex

    I’m sorry but my rose colored Disney Dawg glasses are preventing me from properly reading the link. Would someone please read aloud to me all of the offensive and defensive linemen from Georgia who were listed?

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  16. What about the fact that Leonard Pope is considered a first round pick, and can’t make the All-SEC team? Ray Drew is also considered a high pick on some draft boards and can’t make the All-SEC team. We have 2 All SEC Middle linebackers, a first round outside linebacker and a DE who will be drafted in our front 7, not to mention all sec Safety Swann and a Heisman frontrunner who played v. South Carolina on offense. Two of our OL also made the AP team.

    Talent isn’t UGA’s problem. Getting the talent to execute and play together is the problem.

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  17. David K

    Would it shock anyone to see Theus turn into a solid pro with a long career? Ray Drew is going to be a great pro. I bet Jordan Jenkins leaves early and is a great pro after mostly a no show season this year.

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  18. Hogbody Spradlin

    Two factoids are good grist for this discussion:

    — Our average recruiting ranking for the past 10 years is 9th to 11th nationally.

    — We have the 4th most active players on NFL rosters.

    Reconcile those ideas.

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    • GaskillDawg

      How is that talent spread out over the 24 positions? Take the 2006 team, for example. The top three running backs in the depth chart played in the NFL (a fourth, scout teamer Knowshon Moreno, is of course in the league.) The QB plays in the NFL. That is 4 guys on offense that played int eh NFL. Let’s say another hypothetical team has 1 QB, 1 RB, and two OLinemen who played in the NFL. Are those two offenses equally talented?

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    • GaskillDawg

      Another thing. How many of the schools recruiting 1 to 8th or 1 to 10th are in the SEC? If we use recruiting rankings as the standard shouldn’t we be losing to the SEC teams with higher recruiting rankings?

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      • That’s how I always view it; rankings within the confines of the SEC are where it’s at and UGa has been 5th or 6th for the past five years. This offseason appears to be shaking those numbers up some, so we’ll have to see how it goes.

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    • frankly

      We recruit well as evidenced in the recruiting rankings and the stats you just mentioned. The reality is however we have not had an awful lot of them that were IMPACT players. I would love to see a stat with the number of 1st & 2nd rounders compared to those of other teams in the top five most active players on NFL rosters.

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    • Will (The Other One)

      I’d say the biggest miss under Richt has been getting top-flight OLinemen. We’ve had what, one first round offensive lineman in the past 10+ years?

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      • MinnesotaDawg

        True. Still can’t watch an Ole Miss game without shaking my head at their (First team, All-SEC!) left tackle. That one still hurts.

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    • playmakers in space

      The thing I have a tough time with is when you see a good college player like a Charles Johnson, Geno Atkins, or Justin Houston have a nice but not dominant career at Georgia, and then they turn into absolute MONSTERS once they reach the pros. This has to be a coaching thing, right?

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      • Geno didn’t give a shit about ball until his paycheck was on the line. My brother used to train at spec towns track & said during spring football, Geno would be at the track, ostensibly to throw shot. Typically, though, he’d be flirting with the girls on the track team and, more importantly, missing spring ball.

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    • Reconciling …. 1) @There is some built-in bias against the Dawgs as in the media at large (pre-Dawgrading) @
      2) The recruits are really being “coached up”

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  19. Chuck

    A lot of this “first team” is politics. But when money is on the line, ie, pro selections – people who actually make a team – are chosen, then we’ll see.

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    • MinnesotaDawg

      Exactly, Chuck. Politics, statistical production, media perception, big-game performances, “what was your team’s record?” are all factors, rightly or wrongly, in determining All-Conference choices. Of course, there is sometimes a correlation with “talent”, but not always. Last year’s SEC defensive player of the year wasn’t drafted until the end of the draft and isn’t even on an NFL squad now. I believe Georgia is sitting at Number 4 when it comes to former players playing in the NFL right now, and I suspect this year’s team isn’t significantly different talent-wise from past UGA teams.

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  20. Cosmic Dawg

    Senator, I’m not sure what you’re arguing here. Are you saying CMR hasn’t done a great job recruiting 2010 – 2013, or pointing out he’s not squandering talent or opportunities because we don’t have athletes with the raw ability? Either way you cut it, it seems a bit damning for the coach.

    I think it’s a (small) barometer of the not-quite-elite current state of the program. With the returning starters / upperclassmen we had, this shouldn’t have been a true rebuilding year – Andrews, Conley, Drew, Bennett, Theus, Rome, Wilson, Herrera, Floyd, Jenkins, Morgan, Mitchell, Swann, Johnson, Thornton, Mason…there were a number of vets on this team, it’s a shame none of them quite amped it up to compete for that honor.

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    • I’m simply pointing out that the talent level isn’t as high as many perceive, at least in terms of truly elite players. I’ll leave it up to others to speculate as to why that is.

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      • AusDawg85

        Always wondered what happened in later years to the child in “The Emporer had no clothes”?

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      • Mayor

        No, you’re just pointing out that very good Georgia players who are likely future pros are being left off the All-SEC first team. I chalk it up to Dawgrading based on the team as a whole not achieving what it should have achieved this season. I think my explanation makes a hell of a lot more sense than the “they aren’t talented” canard. The NFL certainly feels otherwise. If anything this tends to prove what the haters all say–CMR doesn’t coach ’em up well. Maybe we all ought to leave this alone.

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        • DirtyBird

          I am going with the Senator on this one, CMR has done a good job of developing talent for the NFL, there’s no way around that.

          If a recuit wants to get to the NFL, CMR is about as direct a route as you can pick.

          http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/number-of-nfl-players-by-college/2014/

          CMR ranks 8th on the list of current NFL players.

          Yes, I know some will say, the other 10 of the top 11 all went to the BCS Champshp except Miami, I am aware, and I don’t like it, and it is true that almost all in the top 11 except CMR and Miami got to the Natty, but that’s not because of poor talent development, more poor defensive staff than anything.

          It could be said CMR does about as much with the talent as almost anyone (he does rank 8th on this list).

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          • Normaltown Mike

            That you are unaware of the number of “natties” Miami has played for and won is really cute.

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            • DirtyBird

              Should have clarifed, I doubt anyone from the 2001 Miami BCS Champ game is still playing in the NFL, so I was referring to the current NFL rosters under that assumption, if that’s not the case, I stand corrected.

              i know for the last 10 years, Miami & CMR are the only 2 of the top 11 schools w/ most NFL alumni to not get to a BCS Champshp, so yeah, it sucks. But I don’t think it’s all CMR’s fault. really don’t.

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  21. DirtyBird

    Ok, sure, not many made the all SEC team, but doesn’t mean a lot of guys initially loaded with talent were not on the team, right? How was so much talent wasted from a championship point of view say from 2005 on?

    I agree with what scout said a few weeks back:
    “In the past ten years, Richt has recruited a frightening amount of talent. It’s certainly subjective, but according to the aggregator 247Sports, during the past decade Richt landed nine top ten recruiting classes, and in the one year he missed, the Dawgs finished 12. His average class over that ten year stretch was eighth best in the nation.

    Yet for whatever reason, since winning the SEC title in 2005, Coach Richt has struggled to get this talent to consistently perform on the field … let alone stay on campus. And even 2005 finished with a sour taste following the upset Sugar Bowl loss to Rich Rodriguez’s West Virginia Mountaineers.”

    So, CMR had the 8th best supply of talent, and 0 sec championships since 2005 or 0 natty’s like ever.

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    • RocketDawg

      Hey genius……Alabama has had an average of #1 since 2008 and has the “natty’s” as you so eloquently put it (what are you 12?) to back it up. We may have had the 8th best in terms of classes but that is only 3-5th best in the SEC over the same span. The SEC West has used creative roster management for the better part of the last decade and has all but one SEC title since 2008 to show for it.

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      • DirtyBird

        well, ummmm, let’s see, scout first, now espn’s travis haney, who knows more about college football than anyone on this blog, Nov 2 article about Richt Underachieving :

        “Georgia laying an egg against a rival on the brink of a meltdown reminded me of a question we asked in this summer’s Future Power Rankings: Could other coaches do more with Georgia’s talent and recruiting base than Mark Richt?

        I polled a handful of agents and coaches to ask.

        “Yes.”

        “For sure.”

        “I would think so.”

        “You can accidentally win nine games [a year] there.

        ‘You get the idea: Mark Richt is underachieving.”

        I don’t agree with everything everybody thinks about CMR being such an underachiever, but suffice it say, conventional wisdom is CMR is an underachiever.

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        • That just read like the ransom note in “Big Lebowski”!

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          • DirtyBird

            A Coen Brothers reference, nicely played. The note was a screw up above, I was trying to put quotation marks, and when I clicked to send, I got that.

            But anywho, one idea scares the crapper out of me.

            Will Muschamp to Auburn.

            If he goes there, you might have a program perfectly crafted to dominate the SEC for years:
            1- Dual threat hurry up spread offense (even Saban has been mystified by dual threat Qb’s or mobile Qb’s or hurry up offenses)
            2- Top 5 ranked scoring defense

            Those have been the only 2 ways to win the SEC for years anyways. But no team since UF with Meyer has done BOTH.

            If Gus pulls it off, we’re all screwed. For reals.

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            • Normaltown Mike

              Muschamp as DC at Auburn?

              I wonder how the Dawgs would handle it….

              Smith, it’s a long vid, but you should watch the entire thing. Georgia’s QB is a Freshman named Matt Stafford (the same guy that plays on your NFL fantasy team)

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            • Normaltown Mike

              Muschamp as DC at Auburn?

              Well maybe Georgia got lucky once. Could they do it again?

              Smith, you should check this vid out. It’ll be a little confusing because Georgia (or U-G-A as you call them) is wearing black jerseys. That’s right! Georgia is wearing black. Whoda thunkit?

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              • DirtyBird

                2005 team under CMR ran the formula, mobile Qb in DJ, and a top ranked defense, and you got an SEC Chmpshp.

                But CMR hasn’t run that formula again. Nothing he has tried has won another Chamshp.

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                • Normaltown Mike

                  So Smith, CMR’s strategy is to have a bad defense?

                  Who knew!

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                • DirtyBird

                  CMR is under the false assumption that he can win the SEC with a Pro style offense and a subpar defense.

                  That’s not a Chmsp formula.

                  Yes, I think that’s been CMR’s priority, pro style offense. Except for 2005.

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                • Hackerdog

                  Pro style offense has served Bama well. I wonder if Saban realizes he should be running the spread?

                  And I very much doubt that Pruitt was hired to run a poor defense.

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          • DirtyBird

            Spurrier got close to the perfect strategy in 2011 and 2012 and 2013, when he had a mobile Qb, and a top 15 ranked defense. Also, Spurrier always puts his Qb’s on a short lease, which is key, love how he does that.

            But Spurrier threw too much, and didn’t run Connor Shaw as much as he should have, and the defense was great, but not quite as lock down as Alabama.

            Still 3 straight 11 win seasons in 3 years isn’t horrible. But didn’t qwuite have the Championshp formula down.

            If Muschamp heads over that, and Spurrier finds himself a few mobile Qb’s, SPurrier will win some Champshps there. But Muschamp probably heads to Auburn who is more spread offense than Spurrier.

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  22. TomReagan

    Greg Pyke got hosed.

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  23. Bulldog Joe

    Georgia had three preseason first teamers coming out of Media Days and one actual first teamer at season’s end.

    Since it’s a team game I don’t try to read much into individual awards.

    Team was predicted second in the East and finished second.

    The 2014 Georgia team met expectations. That’s about all I can say.

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    • Mayor

      The team (i.e. the players) played fine. It wasn’t the team that was the problem this season. The team played well enough to have 11 wins. The team met my expectations in every way except the final number of wins and losses, plus not showing up for the WLOCP–but whose fault is that? Not the players–they played their guts out.

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      • warden

        “plus not showing up for the WLOCP–but whose fault is that? Not the players–they played their guts out.”

        HAH!

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    • We bring in top recruits. We are good here.
    • Our position coaches start coaching them up. We are mostly pretty good here.

    • The morons at Bowel Movement suspend, kick out, or run off talented players who go on to be stars at other schools.

    • Our sucktacular embarrassment of an S&C program doesn’t develop them as well as they should.

    • As a result of the above + bad luck + life = injuries.

    The net result is we end up with less people on end of the year “highlight” teams.

    Also, as Mayor noted above, when you win people highlight your players more. If we had beaten SC, Florida, and GaTech, you can be certain a lot more players would have been first team everything.

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    • DirtyBird

      1- yep, 5 stars are kicked off by AD McG for things other championship level programs don’t even suspend guys for.

      That’s a key piece to this that really needs an overhaul, any chances a new AD might be in the works if CMR doesn’t win a championship soon? I think so.

      The Senator has done as good a job as anyone for pointing this dysfunctional admin out, might have been the first to bring it up, but it’s hitting home with a lot of fans I talk to.

      2- Yep on S & C program, JT had no business running the S & C program and the dline got pushed around like pinballs vs the Gators and the Jackets.

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  24. I feel the lack of recognition for our players stems from a lack of achievement as a team. I surely don’t believe we were “out talented” by USC, UF, and GT, and I also don’t believe Mizzou has anything comparable to UGA talent wise. When you win championships, recognition follows. When you go to the Belk Bowl, it doesn’t. It does remind me of Spurrier’s famous statement about all those talented high school players who go on to anonymity at UGA.

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  25. Bulldog Joe

    Congrats to Nick, Ramik, Amarlo, and Damian.

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  26. Athens Townie

    So we’ve either (a) done a poor job at recruiting and roster management or (b) failed to develop talent.

    Nice.

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    • DirtyBird

      I used to blame it all on CMR, but it’s not that simple, that’s the easy answer. If they say CMR hasn’t done much with the talent, I say CMR has UGA ranking 7th on NFL rosters with 48 players. The NFL coaches, who likely know the most about football talent, seem to like CMR’s players a whole bunch.

      I’d attribute the underachievement of the program to:
      Admin Level:
      1- Scheduling too many top 10 teams the first two weeks, all on AD McStupid. No one else does that, anywhere. I don’t care how much $$$ you bank upfront, in the long run, losing costs you in less licensing sales.
      It has caused a lot of issues:
      a) if suspensions, then you’re missing key players early on
      b) injuries, these early games vs top ranked teams are physical games, why take the unnecessary risk of getting key players injured before the bulk of the Sec East matchups?
      c) an early loss can cost you a Championship, why risk it?
      2- Too much over-reaction to imperfect behavior from players, too many suspensions and expulsions over what top teams consider relatively minor issues.
      3- Very poor S & C program, trying to be too cheap, resulting in too many ACL injuries and poor dline plan (Alabama 2012, GT/UF 2014 come to mind).
      4- No quality indoor facility to handle bad weather, too cheap, costs us big in recruiting & preparation
      5- Too cheap to get best staff, and assts

      CMR:
      1- Poor strategic planning: timeouts, lack of aggresiveness, poochkicks, offense 1st vs defense 1st, pass 1st vs run 1st (although did change FINALLY in 2014), little adapting to schemes that win Championships in the SEC and nationally (ex spread off or a top defense) seems unaware of adapting to change. Note: 1 advantage to the spread is at Qb easier to find a runner than a passer so you can replace them easily like Meyer did this year if injuries happen, poor understanding of probability and statistics when creating strategy
      2- No special teams coach
      3- Poor rotation at QB has led to too many Qb;s starting with too little meaningful rep experience (cox in 2009, AM in 2010, Mason in 2014, ? in 2015 has no meaningful reps). You have to do better succession planning that that.
      4- Doesn’t focus on 1 game at a time like Saban does, always seems to lose to inferior teams (lost 2 games in 2014 to teams without a winning record), lacks urgency. S & C coach is usually the engine here too.
      5- Not realizing JT’s S & C effect on wins until end of 2014. I wonder why JT was ever picked, he wasn’t really qualified for that position.
      6- Not understanding that true confidence only comes from winning Championships.
      7- Not the greatest at picking champions and leaders, especially at Qb. Needs to look at full speed full contact game performance more heavily than practice, who he likes best, etc. Marshall and Mettenberger were huge misses. I know he’s picked 2 good ones in Greene and DJ, but the rest, didn’t win any Championships.

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      • Normaltown Mike

        Smith, you disappeared for a few days…finals?

        How’d you do in Music Appreciation? I heard it’s a toughie.

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      • Mayor

        It’s really hard to argue against any of the things you said in your post above. That’s why people respond with insults.

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  27. Debby Balcer

    You guys act like everyone who has left is a star elsewhere that is not true. If they are a success it is after a year of sitting out of D-1 ball and maturing.

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  28. fred russo

    The GT game says it all Johnson with 2 &3 stars beats UGA with 4&5

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    • Gaskilldawg

      The guys who specialize in ranking recruits on signing day do not publish reevaluations 12 months later. Thus, when a 4 star lb signs a loi with Georgia and UGA doesn’t admit him and Richt finds him a scholarship at Miss State at the last minute, like happened with Jabar Cheney, folks still count his 4 stars towards Richt having stockpiled X number of stars. When a 5 star such as Harvey-Clements repeatedly gets suspended and leaves his 5 stars stays with Richt as Richt fielding a team in 2014 with X number of stars. Same with Jonathan Taylor’s stars. Same with Trey Matthews ‘s stars. Same with Keith Marshall ‘s stars. No one adjusted Richt’s accumulated stars downward after October 9th thus year to subtract Gurley ‘s 4 stars.

      That is why just counting the February total of recruiting points does not equal the amount of talent available in a particular game.

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    • Richt is 12-2 against Tech, Fred. See if you can get that knee of yours to quit jerking so much.

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  29. DawgByte

    I’ve been stating for a number of years that I thought our talent is overrated and these end of year All Star selections prove it.

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  30. JT

    David Andrews is a Rimington Award finalist…Greg Pyke was arguably our best OLman. Those two being left off is a joke.

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  31. Who recruits the players? Who trains them? Who is in charge of the program? 2005 was the last SEC Championship. 2007 (season) was the last big bowl. Just think about that. Georgia is not relevant in college football, sorry. They play on TV yes, but everyone does. Next year better prove that Pruitt and the defensive coaches are the real deal because the last 7 years outside of that pipe dream (only 4 yards short!) have been pathetic. The East has been ripe for the taking, historically bad, and yet Missouri comes in and wins 2 straight years. Pathetic.

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  32. 2onoman

    You guys have this all wrong. Anyone with an IQ above 40 knows that the main problem with the football players is due to the beautiful coeds that sap their energy !

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