Fortunately for the SEC, it wound up with two schools in access bowls, so Georgia’s loss in the regular season finale didn’t cost the conference anything.
But check out what Georgia Tech’s win means to the ACC.
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Just scanned the article, but any idea why that second bowl is worth so much more than the playoff bowl? that seems weird? I guess the playoff bowl money is split evenly among the conferences?
Given the amount of money involved, that sure appears to be a typo w/r/t the decimal point on the 27.5.
I think Tech would have still played in the Orange even with a loss. They had to pick an ACC team, and the only other viable option would be Clemson.
From the Conference perspective, that’s the great thing about the Contract bowls–guaranteed pay-day no matter how bad your conference is. And it’s why the Pac-12 and Big 12 were jealous of the SEC’s and B1G’s involvement in the Orange.
On further reflection, I think the real story here is that the B12 only lost out on $2 million by not having either TCU or Baylor in the playoff. Both teams earned $4 million for the conference by being in access bowls, anyway. And most of the money is in that base $50 million to each P5 conference.
That sucks for the Baylor/TCU players, but monetarily it only means a difference of a few hundred thousand per team in the conference. No wonder the B12 office botched the PR campaign so bad–it wasn’t worth spending the time or effort on it.
I agree with your comments and on a per team basis the Big 12 still comes out pretty good with only 10 members sharing the money. I think the teams who advance to the championship game get an additional $2M each and the winning team gets another $4-$6M, so the Big 12 does lose out on a little bit of that incentive money, but it’s marginal when divided by each team. If/when the playoff field expands to 8 teams, the Big 12 would make a financial “killing” if they can find a way to stand pat with only 10 teams and place 2 teams in the playoff. I suspect they will lobby hard for an NCAA exemption allowing conferences with less than 12 teams to have a championship game. Adding second tier schools like BYU who will likely never qualify for the CFP to reach 12 teams will only reduce payouts for the other members.
The Orange had to take the highest ranked ACC team, so they didn’t really gain anything on account of tech but on account of FSU.
Why was the Orange Bowl payout so much compared to all the other bowls?
Maybe tech can finally pay for the “Mark Richt Field” sign on their stadium.
When I saw that squib kick…I almost vomited..I knew right then tech would come down the field and tie the game up..lthat pooch kick was such a momentum killer.
It is probably 99+% that everyone wishes we had chosen to kick it deep but the start on the 42 yard line isn’t that necessarily any worse than we would have gotten. Just one missed tackle or a good block can get conventional returns to that point, although it hadn’t happened with GT that day, and UGA has been pretty good on kick coverage. Also, seeing a squib kick in that situation isn’t just a CMR decision, I see it almost as much as a deep kick in that circumstance. I even heard two coaches discussing that on Sirius Radio say that is about a 50/50 call for them.
In hindsight it is a no-brainer to criticize but there were so many other factors to consider in the causation of the GT loss, including the very next play’s scheme/execution. There is a lot of blame to go around, as there is in any close loss, but the focus on this one aspect of the game is disproportionate and driven by other reasons.
Maybe I’m a bit sad for having watched (at least the 1st Half) of the MAC Title game, but the same thing happened at the end of the half. NIU, ahead 20-7, squibbed the KO with <30 seconds left and Bowling Green popped a couple passes, kicked a FG and made it 20-10.
Then, walking off the field, the NIU coach proclaimed it a mistake!
Good Lord, Mac! That’s a real reach. I’ll bet you won’t even admit that the earth is round! For crying out loud quit with all the Richt excuses! Your constant denial of the obvious makes your credibility suspect. What about the timeout? Was that a 50/50 call, too? Sheesh!
Exactly what of my comment do you dispute? Stay on point, I said everyone agrees we should have kicked it deep. No one is arguing (except you and no one knows who with this time.) If you don’t think many coaches choose the squib kick option, you simply don’t watch much football. Your denial seems to be the issue. Where is the reach? Do you feel people haven’t been burned with the conventional kick? Where do you the think the idea of a squib kick was born? Duh. It may surprise you but some coaches feel differently than you. Richt said he wished he hadn’t done it, are you after the first born child sacrifice for this, or do you think a firing squad would be more appropriate.
You sad people are impossible to live with. You guys who bawl like a little baby for months/years about every loss are pathetic. Grow up, old fart. Or go whine and pine for the Vols, I hear they don’t play a game in JAX, and they think someone other than their team is responsible for all losses (usually a ref or ESPN conspiracy.)
Then why are you saying it was OK to squib kick it? Even CMR admitted he shouldn’t have done it. Yes, coaches squib it sometimes but NOT IN THAT SITUATION. Now, please answer my question–was it OK to call the time-out and allow Tech to comfortably set up for the 53 yard FG try?
Felt the same way. People in my TV room were still celebrating the go ahead TD and weren’t paying attention to the squib. The second I saw us kick it short I got a sick feeling in my stomach. I’m still incredibly pissed Richt made that bone headed call. He’ll never live that one down.
The $27.5MM figure is accurate for the Orange. The squib didn’t change the payout for the ACC, which is guaranteed a spot the Orange every year. The real coup here goes to the SEC for the CFP Committee inexplicably jumping previous #10 Miss St over previous #8 Mich St, giving the SEC the other slot in the Orange this year. That adds $23.5MM to the SEC’s bottom line (a $47MM swing in the conference war against the B1G). Next year, the Orange will be worth $6MM per team because it will be a semifinal, while the Sugar will be worth $40MM each guaranteed to the SEC and XII, regardless of rankings. In 2 years, the SEC and XII will again cash the $40MM Sugar check, and the SEC might also cash the $27.5MM Orange check. Over the 12-year Orange Bowl contract, the SEC and the B1G are each guaranteed 3 spots in the Orange. That means 6 slots are up for grabs. Notre Dame can steal a max of two of those 6, but the Irish are not guaranteed any spots in the Orange.
And think the NCAA made such a stink over Todd Gurley’s acceptance of a couple of thousands for a signature over his photo.
Todd, please take some business courses at the Terry while at UGA. Ask your HC to monitor the courses with you.
A couple hypotheticals to toss into the mix: If Miss.St. wins the Egg Bowl does it go into the playoff? And if UGa beats Tech does it play in one of the Big 6 games?
I am guessing YES on each.
I think it would have been awful close between 12-1 Ohio State and 11-1 Miss St, but the committee would selectively use its heavy “conf champ” criterion to spread the wealth to the B1G and put tOSU in.
As to your other hypothetical, if we beat Tech and everything else plays out as it did, we would be at #9 and in the Peach. If they just slid everyone else down one spot, Ole Miss would be at #10 and also in a Big 6 game, and Arizona would be left out. The SEC would have 4 teams in and the Pac12 would have only one.
I think instead of just sliding the others down, the committee would have monkeyed with the vote to put Arizona ahead of Ole Miss to give the Pac12 two teams in.
Funny, in the scenario I laid out I actually was not even factoring in aOSU! You are absolutely right, of course, but I was honed in on the fact that MSU was in the Top 4 each week until the Ole Miss loss. But given the seemingly arbitrary nature of each weekly “poll” the bump for aOSU would have been justified in some way.
Frogs would have been a tricky assignment.
In a related note, Mark Richt is anticipated to be named ACC Coach of the Year by vote of the university Presidents.
Conversely, Tech losing to FSU actually made the ACC another $2M+.
“... Shoot, why does anybody who’s ever won something do it again? Because it’s cool. So, let’s go do it again. Let’s see if we’ve got what it takes.” -- Stetson Bennett, The Athletic, 3/22/22
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