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A couple of items for you to chew over this morning:

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  1. DawgPhan

    Doc Holliday would be my choice. Sure it might take $1.5 million per year to get him. Seems like a long shot, but I would at least run it out there.

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    • He’s a head coach. Why would he be interested in taking a step down to be an OC?

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      • gastr1

        Don’t let things like the reality of career paths get in the way of a good name we’d like to treat seriously, Senator. Is Mark Helfrich available yet? Maybe we can get Harbaugh.

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      • DawgPhan

        He is the HC at Marshall making $600k/year and he only has 2 years left on his contract.

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        • His contract runs through the 2018 season and has a buyout of $600K per remaining year. McGarity ain’t shelling that out for an OC.

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          • DawgPhan

            I understand that McGarity isnt going to shell out the type of money it will take to get a quality guy in the position. Just saying what my first choice would be.

            Buyout for Holiday would $1.8mm. Not cheap, but not the moon and stars.

            Offer a home and home for the buyout and offer Holliday 3yr/$4.5million

            UGA needs to at least be in the $1mm/year range on the OC and none of those guys listed are that caliber of coach.

            Holliday makes your team significantly better than any of the names listed in the article posted.

            great recruiter, offensively minded, HC experience, SEC experience

            And at least then you have someone on staff with HC experience should CMR ever decide to stop coaching.

            I would also consider Bill Legg

            But I fully understand that we are not going to spend that kind of money. That Lilly and Inman are likely going to get the jobs and UGA will still put less money in the academic coffers than Bama did this year.

            Happy New Year!

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            • Buyout would be $2.4 million, right?

              And, again, do you have any indication Holiday no longer wants to be a head coach?

              He is a fabulous recruiter, but part of that is because Marshall has no academic standards whatsoever.

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              • DawgPhan

                I dont know what his plans are. I just saying that I would make sure that his agent knew I was interested and about where I was interested.

                And that would be the level of person that I was going after.

                Secondly after all the talk about how great a guy CMR is to work for and how the phone would be ringing off the hook from guys wanting to coach at UGA with Chubb and all the weapons, look at that list. No upgrades and still going to be spending double what we spent last season unless we really do just promote lily and inman.

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  2. @gatriguy

    Taking Shawn Elliott would be a nice f you to Spurrier. I’m down for that.

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    • 202dawg

      This. Plus, Inman scare she $hit outta me. I’ll have yellow flags in my nightmares…

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      • McTyre

        He also was one of the few maulers Richt has had on his OL. As an SEC OT, If you’re not drawing a few flags you’re not trying hard enough.

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        • 202dawg

          Fine, the guy is tough. But typically it’s holding which gets the OL flagged, not a personal foul. Playing through the whistle doesn’t seem to be our OL’s problem…

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          • gastr1

            Have you guys watched football the last 2-3 years? They don’t call holding anymore. (Except on td runs against SC by Gurley.) Seriously…how many holding calls did anyone see on us this year? Maybe five the whole year?

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        • Cojones

          “Sunblocker” Inman? Oh, hell yes.

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          • Irwin R. Fletcher

            Inman has always been a personal favorite since I watched him get into multiple fights at the G Day game. Not saying that’s bad or good for a coach…

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  3. gastr1

    That Callaway guy seems like he might be awfully good. –McGarity

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  4. With the previous post about building an “championship level staff” I wonder if Richt will hesitate to move first timers into the positions by promoting internally. I wonder too how much influence Pruitt will have in this decision.

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  5. Irishdawg

    I like Sanders as the OC, or Michigan State’s OC, if he’s open to discussion. They’re offense looked pretty damn good yesterday.

    As for OL, how about Wisconsin’s OL coach? They’re a grind em up offense like we are.

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  6. Bright Idea

    Callaway? Inman? Surely you jest!

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  7. HVL Dawg

    I don’t know why these recruits play in the All American Bowl two days before they are reporting to a D1 program as an early enroll. High School is over. Oh wait…. I do know.

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  8. baitstand

    Three uninspired OC choices, especially Randy Sanders, perhaps designed to make elevating John Lilly more palatable — which really might be OK if he continues Bobo’s offensive system. Not his play calling, just his system.

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    • Cojones

      You are onto what I would call the “hidden low fruit”. Is it just that the word “continuity” induces amnesia among us? Think that word was used all along to signal promotion from within. I can’t name a candidate that would be better nor signal as much relief for us fans.

      I hope it’s Lilly.

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      • Ben

        I noticed that Lilly looked like he was having fun the other night, and that’s something we never really saw from Bobo. If he’s as good as Bobo AND wants to have some fun AND we keep developing QBs like we have been, things might be okay. “Mr. Inside Hire” is boring, and sometimes it sticks you with Michael Scott (who was actually pretty good at his job with sales and management). Bringing in someone else doesn’t always work, especially if they get there and you don’t like the way they roll up the toothpaste tube, so there is a lot to be said about continuity.

        I think the reason most of us are worried about that, though, is that Richt said he’d keep Grantham around “for continuity’s sake” last year, when in reality he may have known that Grantham had one foot out the door already.

        As much as we like to think sometimes, Richt is not an idiot, and he’s had lots of success. Look no further than our friends in Tuscaloosa to see that sometimes even the best have problems and issues in their program that Mr. Outside Hire can’t always fix.

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        • Fun? What’s that got to with anything? Other than Pete Carroll, name a successful coach who looks like he’s doing anything other than passing a kidney stone while sucking on a lemon.

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  9. “Georgia could also elevate John Lilly to the offensive coordinator spot and could move up graduate assistant Daniel Inman into the vacant offensive line job.” Doesn’t get more Georgia Way than this.

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    • McGarity would like to remind you of the frugality of this approach. Seriously tho, I hope Pruitt is pushing Richt away from this mindset. No offense to Lilly or Inman, its just that we need to get some experience in these positions.

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    • Not that either wouldn’t be good or bad because I don’t know. It’ll certainly be cheap which is obviously of equal importance to ability for McSavings. We be at Dollar General.

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    • Cosmic Dawg

      Every great coach gets promoted into an opportunity sometime. I would much rather see Lily promoted than some merely competent retread.

      For those of you concerned about McFrugal not paying for talent, it’s better to bet on a rising star than pay some middlin’ coach in our price range to produce middlin’ results.

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      • Cojones

        greed, Cos.

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      • Oh I actually think Lilly could do really well but I don’t think our OL coach should be a promotion from within, no matter how good he may or may not be. I still believe the OL is the most important position on the team and we’ve all seen how questionable OL recruiting and coaching has hindered this program.

        Whether it’s true or not, I just want to feel like the UGAA wants to win as bad as I do. I want to feel like I’m not wasting money when I sign that check. This season, I actually found myself questioning if it was still worth it and I didn’t like it. I know I’m not the only one who feels this way and its probably no coincidence that CMR and McGarity are having a “direction of the program” powwow. Georgia athletics and college athletics are at a major crossroads. It’s time to shit or get off the pot. Coach Richt knows it and Coach Pruitt is screaming it. Status quo won’t cut it but that’ll most likely be the reason if we lose Pruitt. I think how we handle these hires is about much more than just the men. Just make the best hires possible with how cheap we can get them being NOT being top priority. If Coach Richt believes Lilly and/or Inman are the best then I’ll believe him because I still believe in Coach Richt even if I am still pissed about the squib kick. Lol.

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      • mp

        +1 Well said. Just because it’s cheap doesn’t automatically make it a losing strategy. Hiring a QB coach (and Lily stick with TE’s) who can recruit well may be better long term.

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  10. I’ve spent way too much time with my wife lately and am ready for some scorn and ridicule from someone else. So, Mike Shula. Seriously. Look it up.

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  11. Ben

    This list bores the fool out of me, but that’s probably because we got such an outstanding hire when we got Pruitt last year (and who’s to say he’ll still be on staff this fall, right?).

    I’m so accustomed to pulling against Sanders, though, that it’d be a hard adjustment to make. They didn’t look good at all yesterday, but we probably shouldn’t judge against a small sample size. His offenses were generally pretty good at Tennessee, though, right? What I notice here, though, is a link to Cutcliffe in both him and Roper. Schottenheimer, though, has never coordinated at the college level, and that didn’t work out too great with Grantham.

    I’d love to get the OL coach from Carolina, but I don’t anything about Adkins. Callaway seems like an uninspired choice, but his lines were good early on, right (having a Stinchcomb helped)? Inman seems to have matured a bit, but is he ready to take on a job as a fulltime position coach? I don’t know.

    What do I know, though? I’m just a Disney Dawg who’s never been in the arena above the HS level…

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    • Irishdawg

      FSU’s endless string of derp yesterday can’t be held on the OC. The Seminoles moved the ball well, and the playcalling looked solid, and then a FSU player would then hand the ball to a Duck defender like it was a holiday cookie platter.

      Honestly, I don’t know much about Sanders other than without his offense, FSU goes 7-5 this year at best.

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      • Ben

        That’s very true, and maybe my problems with Sanders are simply that he’s worked for the opponent for years and I’ve never had much of a reason to like him. Maybe he’d be just fine, but he’d sure look weird wearing red and black.

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    • Bulldawg Bill

      Callaway’s lines were good, but we never had depth. He always had the last say on recruits and never recruited enough bodies. We were always one injury away from disaster on the OL.

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  12. SouthGaDawg

    I bet Sanders wants out of FSU. To be in the CFP, that place was a train wreck. They have no QBs coming back unless they get a transfer from OSU. He is a multiple pro guy with experience plus McTightwad could get him for around 600K. Hire a nobody OL coach from the Big 10 since they are now the “cat’s meow.”

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    • Cojones

      You could do worse. O line has always been the trump card in the Big Ten. Hell, even Bear Bryant knew that back in his day (there is an old recruiting story that goes with that).

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      • Macallanlover

        You betcha, there aren’t many upper tier Big 10 teams I wouldn’t trade OLs with almost every year. There is only two things they do well in that conference, OLs and LBs. Having a pipeline to that area’s treasure trove would be fine with me, just like they want RBs, DLs, and DBs from the south. This is a critical hire to me, with the RB talent we have on board (virtually every year), improving our OL performance is the quickest way to see immediate improvement.

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  13. Scorpio Jones, III

    Interesting two of the mentioned OC candidates worked for Cutcliffe. I thought Callaway had sorta run his string in Athens. Course I know these lists may or may not have any relation to reality.

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  14. jermainesdye

    Something must be wrong with my computer or internet browser. When I click on the link for Leege’s article and read it, nowhere on that list of candidates is Stanford’s Mike Bloomgren.

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  15. watcher16

    I’m sorry, but UGA is not in a position where we should be promoting GA’s to coaches. Let them get their feet wet at the UAB’s and Marshall’s first

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  16. Billy Mumphrey

    The combination of Sanders and Calloway might make me fall off of the wagon. /Shudder/

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  17. soccerdawg

    I will be watching the U.S. Army game in San Antonio on Saturday at 1 p.m. on NBC. Looks like a good opportunity to view some of our future talent.

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  18. Irwin R. Fletcher

    Anyone hear any update on Van Jefferson?

    Also…Pruitt nor Grantham weren’t on any of the early lists. Not saying that’s a trend… Just a caveat.

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  19. Irwin R. Fletcher

    Also…Schottinheimer has to be fake. Talk about a pedigree with QBs and being an OC. I’d take him any day.

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  20. WF dawg

    Well, we know Roper knows how to keep his foot on the gas when the run game’s working. Sigh. Now, whether he can develop an SEC QB, that’s a fair question.

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    • Macallanlover

      Not sure that the OC makes the call to keep the pedal down, I think Richt is the one who decides when we get conservative with a lead. Evil Richt kept it down against Louisville, I hope that is a change in philosophy, at least until mid-way in the 4th Qtr. against any quality opponent. I am all for extra playing time for our backups when we can get it but let them run the full offense, not recklessly but stop with the running the clock out in the early parts of the third quarter.

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      • Cosmic Dawg

        I can’t swear to correlation between this and their success, of course, but Oregon goes for it on 4th down a LOT. I know it is somewhat a function of their style of offense and confidence in their talent, but would like to see us go for it more often – that would be a sign of a more aggressive approach. Was glad we did the other night in our game.

        If we truly think the game has become more friendly to offenses, it may be time to rethink how we approach 4th and short.

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        • Macallanlover

          Which means changing how you approach 3rd and medium as well. If we get the OL surge we need, why not look at a 3rd and 5 as two running plays if you have been able to get a push back, and if field position is in their territory? Not an every time proposition but we have been more aggressive in the past 2-3 years with this, maybe just need to stretch it out a little more. My memory is we have been decent at it so far, and sometimes mix a safe pass in to keep the backers honest. I do think Oregon can do it a little more often because there aren’t as many strong defenses in their league.

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  21. W Cobb Dawg

    At least 7 early enrollees coming on board Monday. Assume they count against last year’s class. Finally getting solid recruiting numbers = depth = insurance against attrition. Now that is a huge change for the better!

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  22. W Cobb Dawg

    You gotta be shittin me with that list of potential assistants. Inman (OJT candidate)?! Callaway (has-been)?! Haven’t we learned that we need a top OL coach and a top OL recruiter? Toss the list out and start over.

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    • WF dawg

      Here’s a possible angle on Inman and Callaway: we don’t want to hire them for this position, but we’re willing to give them the courtesy of an interview and/or a leaked mention to the press. They get the perception boost of being mentioned in conjunction with the job, and we get to pursue the candidates we’re really interested in without burning any bridges.

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  23. 69Dawg

    I’m more worried about the Oline coach than the OC. We have to keep the linemen coming. Callaway specialized in rehabbing guys with bad shoulders who never panned out. I’d rather have Inman even if he was the most penalized Olineman in the history of our program. If he wasn’t fault starting he was holding or hitting late cleaning up the pile. It got so bad that any time UGA had a flag everybody in my section would say it has to be 72. See I still know his number.

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    • Bulldawg Bill

      69, Callaway specialized in not recruiting enough bodies!!! Doesn’t anyone remember?!?!? There were never enough OL’s. Always one injury away from disaster!

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  24. I like Roper. I think Cutcliffe’s style fits in with what we do fairly well, so I’d expect a decent match in philosophies.

    Also, I’m pretty sure Cutcliffe was still OC at UT in 1998.

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