“But I guess that’s just the way it is sometimes.”

Another one of these recruiting stories:

Three-star South Carolina running back Matt Colburn, his state’s Mr. Football winner who had been committed to Louisville since June, said the Cardinals told him on Monday – two days before national signing day – that he wouldn’t be allowed to sign with the team this week and would have to delay his enrollment to next year instead, which he doesn’t want to do.

Colburn, a 5-foot-8, 185-pound player from Dutch Fork High School, said U of L assistant coach Tony Grantham called him early Monday afternoon to tell him the Cards decided they needed additional defensive backs in their 2015 class to offset the loss of their starting secondary, so they would not be able to accept a letter of intent from him this week.

“It’s been about eight months now that I’ve been committed, and I feel kind of short-changed because I got this (commitment and recruitment) taken care of even before the season started so I wouldn’t have to worry about this anymore,” he said.

Believe it or not, my point to this post isn’t about Louisville in particular.  It’s that I’m kind of amazed at how resigned kids sound about last minute moves like this.

Grantham “sounded sincere,” Colburn said. “It just wasn’t his decision ultimately. They said they tried to work it out any way possible, but it just wouldn’t work with the numbers that they had. They just had to go with their priorities, and their priority was DBs. They’re not taking any running backs as far as I’m concerned.”

One thing about an early signing period – kids like Colburn would learn a lot earlier in the process about whether a school merely sounded sincere or was really sincere with its offer.  At least those cut loose in November would have more time to find another place to land.

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UPDATE:  The kid may be resigned, but his high school coach is pissed off.  Big time.

“He (Petrino) won’t be able to recruit my school anymore and I imagine there will be some other coaches that will say the same thing. Trust factor is just not there. They’ve known about these three DBs wanting to go to the NFL for weeks now. To use that as an excuse doesn’t hold water with me.”

Welcome to the party, pal.

Okay, I guess the post is about Louisville now.

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46 responses to ““But I guess that’s just the way it is sometimes.”

  1. Silver Britches

    The most shocking thing I got out of this post is that Mr. Football for South Carolina is a 3-star that was gonna go to . . . Louisville?

    Sounds like the golden age of South Carolina football is over for a while. No Clowneys, Jeffereys, etc.

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    • David K

      Without looking I’d guess there are plenty of 4 or 5 star recruits from South Carolina. Mr. Football just means he dominated in high school. Perhaps he’s a little short or a tad slow. The big schools and recruiting services are looking more at raw talent and/or potential.

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  2. Mark

    I don’t know why we don’t just have an open signing period. Let the kids sign when they are ready say from September of their senior year till Feb.

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  3. Spike

    This is what Petrino and his ilk do. He did the same to a 4 star kid here in my town after the kid publicly announced his commitment to U of L. This was done at his high school with all his friends and the media there. The kid was told this well after any time was left to sign anywhere else. He had to go to a JUCO. What a scumbag Petrino is. But, you all knew that.

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  4. Bulldawg165

    What a crappy way to treat someone.

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  5. David K

    Well, if dozens of kids every year weren’t committing to programs and then changing their minds at the last minute then I might feel a little worse for this guy. The system is set up for you screw and/or get screwed. Until you sign it’s fair game. Players should be holding onto multiple offers to cover their ass.

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    • JTP

      Please, that’s bull crap and you know it. These are grown, reasonably intelligent, fantastically compensated adults taking advantage of kids’ futures.

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      • David K

        Who are forced to give out more offers than they have available due to a system that also allows kids to commit to one of limited scholarships and then back out at the last minute. I’m not saying that happened here and petrino is a dirt bag but, commitments should count for something as much as an offer does. Let them sign early.

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        • South FL Dawg

          They are forced to give out more offers than they have available, that’s your theory? I think what happened is Louisville kept recruiting players above this kid after they took his commitment. Sometimes it really is as simple as it looks.

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    • Merk

      Yea, but you have coaches like CPJ who say, if you look elsewhere, then don’t come back, which is funny because they have no problem trying to sway kids who have committed elsewhere prior.

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    • Not every recruit is so coveted that he can be non-committal and keep multiple offers on the table up until signing day. I even remember when uga had to turn down a great four star OL prospect (zebrie sanders) because he didn’t commit before our OL-allocated slots were filled. Imagine if te prospect is only a 2 star or borderline 3 star prospect. Gotta strike while the iron is hot, except then you get held out to dry by Petrino or Saban.

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  6. sectionzalum

    Petrino is nothing if not a consistent piece of shit.

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    • paul

      Consistent? Check! Piece of shit? Check! Who wouldn’t want a guy like that? </sarcasm font> Seriously. How do guys like Petrino keep getting jobs? I know I’m old but apparently there simply is no sense of shame anymore. On any level. By anyone. The boosters, the faculty, whatever organization is responsible for administering higher education in the state – how can any of them sleep at night knowing they hired and actually pay Bobby Petrino? How do you explain to your children or your wife that you made that decision? There an’t no soap that can wash off that stench.

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      • paul

        The sarcasm font is supposed to surround “Who wouldn’t want a guy like that?”

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        • South FL Dawg

          How do guys like Petrino keep getting jobs? I think the AD doesn’t care one way or the other. Notice the NCAA doesn’t do a thing either. The only ones that get mad are the high school coaches. The thing is, if that high school coach denies Louisville access in the future, he’s not helping his players…..

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          • paul

            Well, I know we’re talking about recruiting here but I was referencing Petrino’s entire body of so called work. The way he left the Falcons, the motorcycle accident and everything else surrounding his “legacy.” He can win all he wants. That doesn’t change the fact that I wouldn’t pee on his face if it were on fire. Some people tarnish an entire organization or institution by their mere presence and association. Petrino is one of those people. Heck it makes my stomach queasy just knowing we had a former staff member who is now willing to work with him. Some stuff you just don’t do. Like working for Bobby Petrino.

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  7. DC Weez

    Petrino = Douche to the 10th power. (I couldn’t do a superscript 10.)

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  8. Parent

    If the kid has been committed for 8 months, then he either didn’t get good advice, or chose to ignore the warning signs. On 8/1/14, first day available, he should have asked for a signed financial aid agreement from Louisville. If he had gotten that, then UL could not have backed out. The kids can sign up to 3 of them. His HS coach should blame himself a little because they could have known 6 months ago if this was a possibility. It’s an ugly business that gets worse every year. We had always believed that our kid should wait to commit until he was absolutely positive he was sure. Then, after the process got going, we saw the way the majority of coaches behave (constant lying with arrogance to put it mildly), and told him to do whatever he felt like doing and to never feel regret. He ended up committing to one school and staying with them – sad that an 18 year old had so much more integrity than most of the adults he dealt with in the process.

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    • WF dawg

      Thanks for your perspective on these situations. I always enjoy reading it.

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      • Parent

        It was definitely an enlightening process. Still considering a book, “Laughs, Lies, and Commitment, a Parent’s guide to Recruiting,” LOL

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    • Chadwick

      You perfectly illustrate the rub….most of the kids get absolutely no advice….and? The NCAA doesn’t want them to get it. Dude, you are the exception, not the rule.

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  9. 3rdandGrantham

    Just how great would it be if, say, 8-10 Louisville commits got together and quietly schemed a plan to all sign elsewhere on signing day? And when Petrino/Grantham start flipping out about the unexpected loss of 1/3rd to 1/2 of their class on NSD, they should all calmly explain that the school they ultimately signed with simply needed more help at their respective position. Oh yea, of course make some phony statement about wishing the Louisville the best and thanking them for the offer.

    I know this will probably never happen, but there are a select few schools that I’d love to see totally get destroyed like this on NSD.

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    • Cojones

      Georgia St would take them as a group in a So Ga minute. There are other schools who need good players just as bad. So why isn’t there a revolution? Because most are in a dog-eat-dog environment of securing a place with a competitive school that could help them get to the NFL. They are no different in their dream than is this kid. Suppose he was assured of signing at U of L and this was done to another kid. Think he would join a group of revolters and gamble with his chance to fulfill his dream? I’ll wait for your answer while you omit the “probably” from “never happen”.

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  10. Ben

    Is Tony Grantham just Todd Grantham’s alter ego? The one who puts a finger under his nose and pretends it’s a mustache?

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      • Dolly Llama

        So Grantham is not only overpaid but able to let his kin ride the gravy train up there? Damn. I don’t know about this kid and his situation, but that makes me downgrade my opinion of Petrino even more. And if you’ll imagine my previous opinion of Petrino as a limbo bar, imagine me digging a trench to pass under it now.

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  11. AusDawg85

    Way to go Senator…day before NSD and you trot out articles that make us all feel a little (more) sick about the state of CFB. What’s on tap for tomorrow…an attack on stupid things fans do to contribute to this circus? Oh, wait…they do and will. This stuff practically writes itself, doesn’t it.

    Won’t be any fun if we don’t make this post about Mark Richt, so I’ll start. The U of L decision about this kid was clearly Grantham’s needs. Sure, Petrino has to sign off, but I wonder how that conversation between CTG and Richt would have gone here at UGA? And how would UGA fans react if CMR held to his principles (assuming he would honor the commitment) and take a RB when DB’s are so sorely needed?

    I’ll make some popcorn now…

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    • sectionzalum

      i would completely expect richt not to put up with that bullshit. and i suspect grantham as under no illusions given the dismissals richt had already made on both sides of the ball. would some folks gripe? of course.

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    • Cojones

      Dang! Was reading down to post, but your first para already did it. Throwing in the politics had already harvested our pent-up comments so this may be coincidental. Anyway, it’s good therapy for those of us trying to wean off this shit.

      Think a brownie would hit the spot about now. Any takers?

      My doc, who knows of my smoking choice, caught himself asking rotely if I smoked, just as he remembered my honest replies to that question before: “Not tobacco products.”. Told him that brownies had taken the place of smoking (THC inhalation). He innocently replied,” Just because I told you your blood sugar was ‘OK’, that’s no reason to be eating brownies.”. Then he connected and turned crimson.” I told him that it had been a long day (I was his last patient.). He literally pushed me from the office just before we were to get to the life and death part of our conversation. I guess it pissed him off that I might go out smiling and stiff him on his bill.

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  12. Dawg in Austin

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if the reason Louisville couldn’t take a fine upstanding kid from South Carolina was because the took this guy instead?

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/eye-on-college-football/25015430/ex-tcu-de-devonte-fields-commits-to-louisville

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  13. CLT Dawg

    As a longtime coach here in Charlotte (Independence HS), and now the last several at Dutch Fork in SC, I can assure you Tom Knotts has been/will be on the phone to all his buddies in the ranks to trash UofL. The man historically produces tons of talent, and if you had an in-road there you were stupid to burn it. Then again, we are talking Petrino/Grantham, so I probably shouldn’t be surprised.

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  14. Russ

    Petrino not trustworthy? I’m shocked!

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  15. I feel bad for this kid and ones like him, but at the same time you agree to sign with these schools that have questionable coaches and make the practice of pulling offers and running off kids it is hard to have too much sympathy. Not sure how representation would help as all they have to do is read a newspaper and they know they are making a deal with the devil.

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  16. Cojones

    Anyone know Vapors Therapy? Couple of patients in this room could use your help.

    “Assignation” just took on a new meaning more littoral than it’s Webster 2nd definition for Petrino:
    assignation : der [ME ass:-1.extreme ruddy colored burro of the desert
    2 gest or scorn of a buffoon; “not a clue”, etc.
    der [ F ignation- 1. large football cultural group of ignorant
    people located near Louisville Ky
    2.two coaches in ath dept of U L
    def: The ass that leads the ignation, known by photo with collar

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  17. Macallanlover

    That was totally scummy on Louisville’s part, just as many recruits are guilty of scummy, last minute behavior as well. I am amazed at how loose the NCAA is about the verbal agreements, and over committing, between both parties during the recruitment process. Especially given how minutely they manage other interactions between coaches and players.

    I think the early signing process will reduce, but probably not eliminate, the issues. One of the early versions of an early signing rule had a limit on the number that could be signed before January 1, which I think is the way to proceed. If 65-75% of the pool of each school is the limit, athletes not given a scholarship during the early period would be “put on notice” of their status, it would signal “conditional” to me and gives them enough time to make visits, or consider other schools. It would also give both parties to see where they stood relative to their needs/opportunities during the final round of signing. This was a travesty because of the way Louisville handled it, specifically the timing. (I felt the same way about Tunsil’s actions and timing two years ago, scummy.) It shouldn’t just be SC high school coaches who should be made a ware of this situation. Reform cannot come soon enough.

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  18. Pretrino at Louisville and Jones ar UT are out-Sabaning Saban. Greyshirts for all…

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