Tuesday morning buffet

A little snow, a little buffet…

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129 responses to “Tuesday morning buffet

  1. Bulldawg165

    “Michigan’s policy for student football tickets now includes need-based discounts.”

    Need-based discounts have gotten WAY out of hand. We already subsidize their food, rent, primary education, and secondary education. Now we have to subsidize their entertainment too? Gee whiz.

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    • Who’s this “we”? You affiliated with UM?

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      • Bulldawg165

        How did I know that someone would respond with that?  I didn’t go to UM so I can’t criticize their hand-out type policies, huh?

        “We” is anyone with a work ethic and ambition who isn’t a “taker” in society.  There is absolutely no reason for anyone to have their entertainment subsidized.

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        • “We” is anyone with a work ethic and ambition who isn’t a “taker” in society.

          So folks are poor because they lack work ethic and ambition.

          And only the poor take.

          You need to acquaint yourself more closely with the tax code, friend. There are takers in every strata of society.

          And there are plenty of poor folks who work their asses off.

          UM is a public school charging its students a fee for athletic activities. Get off your high horse.

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          • Bulldawg165

            Dang it. My reply showed up below instead of here.

            By the way, I’ve had serious issues loading this site lately.

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          • Spence

            Senator, please. If these (allegedly) poor kids who got into a prestigious university want to do anything fun like attend football games, they should have made their fortune before turning 18, convinced their parents not to be so lazy, or not have been born poor at all.

            I agree with Bulldawg and applaud him, let’s only let the rich kids who ACTUALLY worked hard to get their grades have fun at football games, not these poor “takers” who have nothing to contribute to society. Or if they really want to go celebrate football they can get a (third) job.

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            • Bulldawg165

              So you genuinely believe that everyone else should start paying for poor people’s entertainment? Am I understanding this correctly? No longer should we ensure just basic needs are met, but now we have to ensure their enjoyment as well?

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              • Spence

                The reason I’m not keen to have a “debate” with you is that you seem to be the type of fella that likes to take someone’s point, re-characterize it, then beat the shit out of the false argument you made on your opponent’s behalf. Some call that line of attack a straw man.

                To answer your question: No, I don’t think we should hand out cash to every poor person so they can go see a movie or football game. But I do think a university that values having all of its students attend football games is well within their rights to include letting kids on need-based scholarships attend football games like everyone else, and if they choose to make exceptions to who pays the full price of their athletic fees so that can happen, fine.

                Here’s a question for you: Do you think 18-21 year old kids who made it into UM (or any college) should be denied the chance to attend football games because they’re poor, and do you think their desire to go to games makes them “takers?” Cause it seems like a pretty tough label to put on over-achievers who are literally in the process of digging themselves out of poverty by studying and attending college. I’m not into the Rand labels, but they don’t fit the definition of “taker” to me.

                I’m actually kind of shocked that you’re this mad about a $75 discount to smart poor kids who meet Pell Grant requirements.

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                • Bulldawg165

                  Well thought out response. Thanks 🙂 I wish more folks around here could do that.

                  “Do you think 18-21 year old kids who made it into UM (or any college) should be denied the chance to attend football games because they’re poor, and do you think their desire to go to games makes them “takers?””

                  No, I don’t think they should be denied the chance, but I doubt the parents of the “rich kids” are paying for their football tickets. so really all this seems to do is take two equally struggling students, one with rich parents and one with poor parents, and makes the one with rich parents pay more simply because his parents are rich.

                  I mean why not just lower the cost of tickets for all students? Again, poor parents or not should be irrelevant because even rich parents make their kids work for spending money.

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                • Spence

                  thank you back for the reasonable response.

                  “I doubt the parents of the “rich kids” are paying for their football tickets.” I guess we disagree on this. And you didn’t really answer my question about whether these poor students are “takers.” If you’re going to use the label I think you should own it on a more micro level.

                  I was fortunate enough to get some money from my folks during college (I worked for 4 years during school too), and I know a LOT of former and current students who never had to work during school, ie they got all of their money from their parents. I’m not begrudging that – it’s a choice and one I’m sure they’re happy to make for their kids – but I disagree on the everyone is “struggling” equally notion. Maybe I can’t change your mind on that, and since we’re arguing about facts there isn’t much else for me to say.

                  But if I’m being honest, going to college football games at UGA was a major reason I went there, and in my opinion it’s a part of the collective experience of going to a football school (like UM). I hope you don’t have a problem with financial aid for low-income students… isn’t this nothing more than financial aid to let low-income students enjoy the athletic component of the college experience?

                  You see this as a penalty on rich parents, I see it as letting poor students have some of the same opportunities as their better-off peers. Maybe if I was a “rich parent’ looking at it from your perspective, I wouldn’t want to spend money on someone else’s kid. I don’t know.

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                • Spence

                  So if a kids’ parents made bad life choices and are poor, the hardworking smart kid on scholarship at UM doesn’t get to go to football games unless he/she gets a(nother) job (which, by the way, means less time to study) that their rich peers don’t have to get. Got it. Restated, hey, even if you were born poor but worked hard and stayed out of trouble to get into UM by the grace of a scholarship, don’t expect to be able to go to school functions like football games. That’s for the kids with money.

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                • Bulldawg165

                  Spence, being a spectator at a sporting event is a privilege, not a right. You made a good case for UM’s policy in your previous post, but now you’re starting to sound like you think everyone is owed a luxurious life filled with fun activities simply for being born.

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                • Spence, being a spectator at a sporting event is a privilege, not a right.

                  The irony of such a quote against the backdrop that any sporting event hosted at a major sports facility in this country is likely the result of its owner receiving enormous amounts of government largesse, whether through the tax code or outright compensation, shouldn’t be lost on anyone.

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                • Spence

                  “Spence, being a spectator at a sporting event is a privilege, not a right. You made a good case for UM’s policy in your previous post, but now you’re starting to sound like you think everyone is owed a luxurious life filled with fun activities simply for being born.”

                  You’re doing the strawman thing again. I don’t think everyone is owed a luxurious life. I think all students at UM – not just the ones with money – should be able to go to football games if they want, regardless of how well their parents did at making money.

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                • … all this seems to do is take two equally struggling students, one with rich parents and one with poor parents, and makes the one with rich parents pay more simply because his parents are rich.

                  I mean why not just lower the cost of tickets for all students? Again, poor parents or not should be irrelevant because even rich parents make their kids work for spending money.

                  I’m beginning to think you’re just trolling us with this stuff.

                  At least I hope that’s what you’re doing.

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                • Bulldawg165

                  I guess I should’ve been more clear. Not ALL rich parents make their kids work for spending money, but plenty of them do.

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                • That’s a start.

                  Now if we can just get you to admit that not all poor kids are lazy and shiftless, we may be on to something.

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                • Bulldawg165

                  Not poor kids. This policy (and financial aid in general) applies to kids who have poor parents. Subtle but important difference (to me, at least). I don’t wanna get too far off-topic, but since you asked: If you’re old enough to have a kid in college and you’re still poor then you’ve made some bad life decisions, that’s for sure. It doesn’t take 20+ years to crack the middle class. That might (ok, does) sound insensitive but we both know it’s the truth.

                  For the record, if there were a way to measure and compare work-ethic, I would assume the majority of students at UM would be in the higher percentiles, fwiw. It’s a good school.

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                • If you’re old enough to have a kid in college and you’re still poor then you’ve made some bad life decisions, that’s for sure. It doesn’t take 20+ years to crack the middle class. That might (ok, does) sound insensitive but we both know it’s the truth.

                  Right. The poor are poor because they choose to be that way.

                  As for what we both know, all I can say is that it’s obvious to me we’ve had different life experiences.

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                • Bulldawg165

                  If you’re implying that I grew up as a privileged kid of rich parents you’d be wrong. Very wrong. Growing up the youngest of three to a widowed teacher in small town in Georgia sure didn’t keep me from cracking the middle class at the ripe young age of 27, hence I think it isn’t that difficult for someone who has had 20 years to work on it.

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                • I wasn’t implying anything of the sort. But I think anyone who paints with the broad brush you paint isn’t as experienced with all kinds of folks as you think you are.

                  Life is a lot more gray than it is black and white.

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                • Debby Balcer

                  +1,000,000

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              • PatinDC

                Well. maybe poor people shouldn’t subsidize rich people’s entertainment by the requirements of huge athletic fees tacked onto their tuition bills.

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        • Joe Schmoe

          Question: Why should students have to pay for tickets at all? Don’t they pay tuition and activities fees that are the financial underpinning of the school already?

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        • GaskillDawg

          I am a lawyer. The profession always encourages us to provide pro bono services to people with legal needs who cannot afford a fee. That is wrong under your world view. I know that I have, at ties, helped folks out who have been in a pickle and not charged a fee because I want to help people. That is wrong under your world view. Many people are religious and tithe to provide such things as food for food banks. That is wrong under your world view.

          Jimminy Cricket, all UM is dong is charging less to some kids for tickets and you make some big political issue out of it.

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          • Bulldawg165

            You’re ignoring the fact that people are doing something by CHOICE in your examples as opposed to being forced to do so in this case.

            Do you have a practice of upcharigng your wealthy clients in order to subsidize poor ones? If not, then this isn’t relevant.

            Do religious people force wealthy people to tithe more in order to attend their church, so that they can give more to poor people? If not, this isn’t a relevant comparison, either.

            I mean dear god dude… You’re comparing actual NEEDS to attending a football game. Are you even serious right now? I can’t even wrap my head around how you think that is an apples to apples comparison. You MUST be trolling. I sure to god hope so.

            Get off your moral high horse and stop pretending that I’m Hitler because I disagree with forcing people to subsidize poor people’s entertainment in order to purchase their own entertainment.

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            • GaskillDawg

              The University of Michigan has a CHOICE as to whether to charge certain kids less for tickets, just as I have a CHOICE as to whether to not charge someone for service.

              No one is “subsidizing” poor kid’s tickets. The rich kids are paying what they paid before. The University is electing to take less. I am not pretending you are Hitler. I am concluding your are Mr. Potter.

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    • Gaskilldawg

      Same rrsponse the Senator had. You are paying nothing to anyone to provide the discount. Michigan is simply charding some students less.

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  2. I haven’t followed the Auburn story, but the comments from the fans attacking the veteran are astonishing. Who knew Aub’s had a mean side..

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    • WF dawg

      First comment shown on the AU FB page: when will the veteran apologize?
      “All-in” never looked so unattractive.

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    • jollyrogerjay

      I wouldn’t call a person who never finished her first year of training and chased/received a medical discharge within the first year a “Veteran.” I guess I’m just mean.

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      • WF dawg

        You may be right. I admit that I haven’t read any of the follow-up articles, only the initial one, which didn’t include those details. I also proudly admit to hating Auburn so much that it baises me to believe just about anything negative about them. That seems like an OK way to go through life, right? 🙂

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      • Cousin Eddie

        If the US military refers to her as a Veteran, I am not gonna argue, they have more guns than I do.

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        • Debby Balcer

          +1 and I am a military brat my dad served 35 years two tours to Vietnam. My husband also served 7 and his Dad did too.

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      • siskey

        You have a much better point than the maker/ taker argument above. We will see about getting you a therapy dog if people respond too negatively to your comment.

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  3. Hogbody Spradlin

    ‘Oy’ isn’t quite strong enough. ‘GAH’ might be better. Did the guy really say that with a straight face?

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    • Agreed. “Um, you gave all those coaches raises dude…I think its an incredible testament to your check book.”

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    • Cojones

      Would seem that the staff is there not because of loyalty to Petrino, but rather because they were paid more to stay. If they were so loyal to begin with, why were they looking? The writer twists reasoning more than a Republican.

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  4. Rusty

    Love how the Auburn fans are finding ways to tear down the young woman. Surely she must be at fault in some way. …And her dog! The dog should have put his vest on!

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    • Normaltown Mike

      she put herself out there as a “veteran” with a “service dog” so her service and the merits of her claim are worth looking at.

      It’s like putting the fish on your business card, don’t put it there and then take umbrage when you are a shady realtor or ins. agent.

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      • Rusty

        That has nothing to do with the players are alleged to have verbally abused her. I’m not going to give them a pass on that. They need to own it.

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  5. Bulldawg165

    Everyone I know from high school who ended up poor got that way by being lazy and making terrible life choices.

    I’m a CPA so I’m moderately familiar with the tax code. Tax breaks aren’t the same thing as hand outs. One involves you paying less (but still more than almost everybody else in absolute terms– a fact most who bring this up like to ignore), and one involves you actually getting what someone else paid for.

    I’m not on a high horse, I’m just sick of people using the size of someone’s bank account as a reason for discriminatory pricing.

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    • Joe Schmoe

      Any reduction in someone’s taxes comes at the expense of someone else who doesn’t get that same break (this is basic economic theory.

      Let me be less abstract. Do you own a home and write off your interest? I make 6 figures and don’t own a home. So both in absolute and abstract terms I am paying to subsidize your home ownership.

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    • Gravidy

      The notion that having less taken from Person A than Person B would like makes Person A a “taker” is equal parts amusing and infuriating.

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      • Bulldawg165

        Exactly. It’s utterly incomprehensible how educated people can even imply otherwise with a straight face.

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      • Bulldawg165

        30 minutes later and not one person has formed a coherent rebuttal to this, Gravidy. That’s very telling.

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        • Normaltown Mike

          How bout: RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!

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        • Spence

          It’s nice when you’re the prosecutor, star witness, judge, and jury, isn’t it?

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          • Bulldawg165

            Give a rebuttal or move along buddy. It’s cool to sit back and be quiet when you don’t have one.

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            • Irwin R Fletcher

              Seriously? You think you “WIN” by having people ignoring your need based ramblings? I mean…you do get points for using buddy and cool in the same post, but that’s not enough for the outright “W.”

              Anyway, why should I “give” you my ‘rebuttal.’ You need to earn it by working hard. Stop being so lazy and asking for handouts.

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              • Bulldawg165

                I never said I “won” anything. Heck, it was Gravidy’s point, not mine. I was just implying that instead of being a pompous ass, you could just not respond.

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                • Irwin R Fletcher

                  “I was just implying that instead of being a pompous a–, you could just not respond.”

                  Uhhh…you didn’t ‘imply’ anything. You stated there were two acceptable responses…a rebuttal or to move along because you don’t have a rebuttal.

                  That’s not really the way the Internets work…there are lots of acceptable responses to your argument in a comment thread…ignoring, trolling, cynicism, insult, personal attacks, and various levels of snark/satire/ridicule.

                  But let me clear my throat…cough cough…and offer a rebuttal.

                  You’re whole premise is flawed and dumb. This has nothing to do with taking and redistribution. This about the market for tickets to Michigan Athletic Events. It is about supply/demand and price. The Michigan Athletic Department is a $151M enterprise that ran a surplus in 2014 and projects it again in 2015. It sets ticket prices based upon many factors with supply and demand certainly being one of them. The problem for the Michigan AD is that by setting the price based upon the overall market for student tickets, they would exclude a portion of their fan base that they want to have access to the games. So…they have a business decision to make on whether they want to discount tickets to certain, defined groups, which would lessen the profit from such tickets but may have secondary benefits (good will, develop fans within Pell Grant students who may certainly have the means to be boosters as alumni, etc.) . Newsflash…this happens ALL THE TIME. Student discounts, military discounts, senior discounts, children discounts….however, you as the consumer still pay the full price (or don’t) because that’s the way the business has chosen to operate. So the AD has made a choice…students pay less for tickets than alumni… students who are Pell Grant recipients pay less for tickets than those who are not.

                  Making this some pointless discussion about how ‘you’ are subsidizing for these taker kids to watch football completely misunderstands the economics at work here. My guess is that many of these kids are going to use some of the money they make on nights working at the library or flipping burgers or whatever…because many of them would have to be on a work program at Michigan in order to qualify for certain financial aid…to pay for their student tickets. And unless you feel the state should make all student loan recipients make an accounting of their expenditures while in school, which seems the exact opposite of limited government, then I would back off a little and let Michigan sell their tickets at a discount and let these kids find a way (aka work) to pay for them.

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                • Bulldawg165

                  Pretty decent post except the fact that you:

                  1) Missed the mark completely. Yes, the overall blog post was about UM’s ticket policy. The very specific comment I was referring to was Gravidy’s where he stated that making Person A pay less (taxes in this instance) is somehow the same as giving something for free to Person B. This is a very popular position amongst bleeding hearts and one that I think is asanine. It relates strictly to INCOME TAXES. This was a subtopic within the thread. UM’s ticket policies have nothing to do here.

                  2) My original post said that need-based discounts are out of hand. The examples that you gave (military, senior, etc.) aren’t need based so they are pretty irrelevant.

                  3) You flat-out said you think personal attacks, insults and trolling are “acceptable responses.” Do you really think this?

                  I understand it was easier for your argument to pretend I was implying wealth redistribution in regards to UM’s policies, but I wasn’t.

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                • Dawgfan Will

                  You didn’t get in under the 30 minute deadline, but we’ll accept it anyway.

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                • Irwin R Fletcher

                  1) Completely destroying your original premise prevented me from following you down the rabbit trail to whatever you and Gravidy wanted to talk about. I didn’t ‘miss the mark’, I just chose not to join you on your journey to irrelevance.
                  2) You don’t think senior or student discounts have no relation to the earning power/limited income of said seniors or students? Durrrrrrrrr.
                  3) I don’t advocate for these…you might note that I even edited your Y13 level profanity out of your quote…but at the same time, I understand that at any point in this thread, those types of responses should be expected and are accepted by the Internet population at large.

                  “I understand it was easier for your argument to pretend I was implying >wealth redistribution in regards to UM’s policies, but I wasn’t.”

                  Hmmmm….”Now we have to subsidize their entertainment too”

                  Okie dokie….we’ve entered in the ‘deny I ever said that even though that’s what I said phase’….Goodnight Moon. Goodnight mush. Goodnight to the old lady whispering hush…b/c I’m out.

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                • Bulldawg165

                  “You don’t think senior or student discounts have no relation to the earning power/limited income of said seniors or students? Durrrrrrrrr.”

                  It’s amusing that a person trying to call me stupid couldn’t avoid a double negative 😉

                  And no, I don’t think military/first responder (LEO, Firefighter, paramedic, etc.) discounts have to do with reduced purchasing power. I’m not convinced that senior discounts do, either. How could a person over the age of 65 not have more wealth than someone below that? They usually don’t even have to work after that age for goodness sake.

                  Obviously student discounts have to do with reduced purchasing power.

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                • How could a person over the age of 65 not have more wealth than someone below that?

                  So someone who’s lived in poverty his/her entire life suddenly becomes middle class at age 65? Tell me how that works.

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                • Spence

                  I lol’d out loud at:

                  “Pretty decent post except the fact that you:

                  1) Missed the mark completely.”

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                • Dawgfan Will

                  It’s been an hour. Where’s the rebuttal?

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                • GaskillDawg

                  Until you pointed it out, it never occurred to me that folks are subsidizing senior coffees at McDonald. Those damn seniors! They need to stop being takers.

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      • Will (the other one)

        So is the notion that Person A having more automatically makes them a Maker (especially if they inherited said wealth) is as ridiculous as grown adults taking life advice from a hack novelist like Ayn Rand.

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        • Gravidy

          I’m glad to see you agree with my statement.
          I’m old enough to remember when successful people were almost universally regarded as aspirational figures in this country. Sadly, that isn’t the case any more.

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    • Joe Schmoe

      P.S. Your attitude toward tax breaks is exactly why government corruption has shifted so dramatically into the tax code. People would never stand for direct hand outs but will always support cutting taxes even when it favors a very targeted set of individuals or companies and therefore distorts the economy.

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    • Tax breaks aren’t the same thing as hand outs. One involves you paying less…

      Like the Michigan students in question. 😉

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  6. Bright Idea

    Bragging about keeping McGee and Grantham is like bragging about having shingles with only a mild rash.

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  7. Walt

    These Auburn fan’s “blame the victim” mentality is like a rapist claiming, “but she was wearing a short skirt”.

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    • jollyrogerjay

      Like I said in my post when this first came out, there was much more to this story than what the lady said. She and her sister are admitted Alabama football fans, the “victim” in this episode was not victim at all in this. But what she is, is a professional at seeking $$ from wherever she can get it. The “veteran” is, well, not so much. Started Air Force Tech School in June 2011, and was asking for a medical discharge before the year even ended. She is got a 70% disability from the VA/DOD for (1)Plantar Fasciitis,(2) Pilonidal Cyst, (3)Lumbar Strain, and (4) “adjustment disorder/depression. Remember, all of this before she served 1 year of her contract. She is looking for more payouts, just one more with the entitlement attitude that is helping to “fundamentally change” the good ole USA.

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      • Bulldawg165

        I believe I read that she had the dog for PTSD even though she never even served in combat (or left the country for that matter)

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        • Normaltown Mike

          I read that the PTSD was a “sexual assault experienced while in the military”

          This might be all true but I find a person presenting themselves as one of the slaughterhouse five a little unbecoming

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          • Bulldawg165

            “This might be all true but I find a person presenting themselves as one of the slaughterhouse five a little unbecoming”

            I’m sorry but I’m not old enough to get the reference to a book written 40+ years ago.

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            • So no commonly read literature–got it. Can you please let us know which year in the 90’s you were born so the rest of us can dumb down our references?

              There is not one person that posts on this blog as argumentative and confrontational as you are. Why so mad brother?

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              • Bulldawg165

                “So no commonly read literature–got it. Can you please let us know which year in the 90’s you were born so the rest of us can dumb down our references?”

                And I’M the confrontational one? Point out one instance, JUST ONE, in the history of this blog where I’ve personally attacked someone without them doing so to me first. Perhaps I don’t sugarcoat my posts when I disagree, but I never launch personal attacks at people unless they do so to me first.

                And GFY (or kill youself), jack ass.

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                • ’91 then? Cool bro! Peace!

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                • Bulldawg165

                  87, if you must know.

                  I bet you get off acting like a bad ass bully on the internet. There’s a 0% chance you and DawgPhan talk like this in real life, though.

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                • DawgPhan

                  What is really awesome is that you can tell someone to go kill themselves and then moments later play the victim.

                  And holy shit if you have actually not read Slaughterhouse 5. It really is a great book and you should check it out.

                  Really you(and everyone else) should read all the Vonnegut books.

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                • Look guy…I just come here to read about the Dawgs. Many people here offer interesting takes on whatever the topics might be. When I comment–it is usually about having fun. You, sir, take the fun out of it. I am sorry I re-engaged when I promised I wouldn’t. Just couldn’t bite my tongue when you single handedly and relentlessly derailed this entire post. Go back and read it. You are half of the posts–arguing with any and everyone else. Lastly, the tone of each of your “rants” is off-putting and shitty.

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                • Bulldawg165

                  If you find my posts off-putting then don’t comment at all. There’s no sense in trying to troll like a dweeb.

                  There’s plenty of logical and fun discussion in my posts above (and on plenty of other of Bluto’s blog posts). Unfortunately, due to clowns like you and dawgphan there’s too much hateful arguing as well.

                  Nobody made either of you act like a jack ass because you didn’t agree with me.

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                • Yikes! Step away from your keyboard. Slowly.

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            • Normaltown Mike

              famous book about an American who is a POW in Dresden, Germany while the Allies are fire bombing the city. I tried reading it but couldn’t (Vonnegut has a stream of conscious sci-fi style that wasn’t my taste).

              Nonetheless, he makes a very funny cameo in “Back to School”

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            • siskey

              Its a hell of a book. It is a surreal description of Vonnegut’s experience as a POW in Germany in 1944-45, where he survived the fire bombing of Dresden. In addition to being one of America’s greatest writers and making many great works of fiction, Kurt went on to have a cameo in “Back to School” which was one of Rodney Dangerfield’s best movies and not too old for you.

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          • Auburn officials believed it important enough to issue a statement, if not an apology. The behavior of one of their student-atheletes needed to be explained. Do you have a problem with that?

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            • jollyrogerjay

              AU believed it important enough to issue a statement because, after interviewing those that were there, the 2 players were being drug through the mud in the media for doing nothing wrong.

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        • jollyrogerjay

          Exactly. Her PSTD is because she married a Muslim from Turkey and he didn’t treat her too well.

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  8. Wonder if Petrino still sleeps on the couch.

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    • pete

      Seriously, how do you ever move past something like that. Talk about insult to injury.

      On another note: McGee and Grantham might just realize they can get away with murder and still make good $ if they stay under Petrino. He certainly can’t pass judgment.

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  9. DawgPhan

    Also this is going to see some action today.

    we’ll get the tax experts, the taker haters, the victim blamers, and a healthy dose of I have petrinos…

    great for a snowy day.

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  10. Macallanlover

    I didn’t ever think of this as “malicious intent” on the part of Auburn players, I feel it is exactly the bad behavior you get from Auburn players. Not that any schools are clean from punk behavior but the amount of it emanating from The Plains is unbearable. And then AU fans find a way to minimize it.

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  11. PTC DAWG

    Wow, a few of the natives are restless on here today. Must have been out of Cheerios this morning.

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    • Cousin Eddie

      I was thinking that some of these folks have gone to long with out CFB, hope the players don’t unionize and strike. Could actually have a few old style pistol duels.

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  12. And GFY (or kill youself), jack ass. ???????????
    Jeepers! For a second I thought I had somehow landed in the sausage maker blog. I leave for a short while and someone goes rogue or insane in here. Everybody get some fresh air and take a deep breath.
    http://www.hulu.com/watch/32995

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  13. Must be a lot of cabin fever out there. Testy group here at GTP today. I however, maintained my usual polite demeanor. Something that a few of you guys could learn from. Just sayin’ 😉

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  14. 202dawg

    126 posts? Jeebus, don’t you people work? 😉

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