Attrition in the Second Chance U recruiting pool

The defense never rests in Gainesville and Knoxville.

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29 responses to “Attrition in the Second Chance U recruiting pool

  1. PTC DAWG

    So the UT kid thought the Xbox and games were his? Did he just fine them?

    Oh well, glass houses and all.

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  2. Cojones

    How do you sell stolen goods and get off by “not knowing they were stolen”? Someone gave them to you? If he cooperated, why not say how? Don’t get it.

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  3. pete

    “State District Attorney’s Office said the alleged victim decided “not to prosecute the case.”

    Comments like this always make me feel like the victim was paid ‘hush’ money.

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    • Bulldawg165

      From the linked article: “Thompson charged April 1 after being accused of scratching his girlfriend on the arms and neck while attempting to get his cell phone from her….He was legally entitled to make what is called defense of his property, which in this case was his phone,” said State Attorney Bill Cervone. “That’s what he was doing, and the injuries that resulted were inconsequential.””

      Sounds like he should’ve never been charged in the first place. Guess we gotta make mountains outta mole hills if we wanna keep our moral victories, though.

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      • Denver94

        No need for due process if they don’t wear red and black; where have you been?

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      • pete

        “Sounds like he should’ve never been charged in the first place.”

        Yep. She probably only pressed charges because she was angry about the txt from another girl. Sounds like he needs to cut his finger nails too.

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  4. 83dawg

    When I went to the page this advertisement was on there: “Women: Best Way to Reduce Puffy Eye Bags”

    Don’t date a Florida player?

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  5. Question for the lawyers on here. If I took an item of some value ( say jewelry worth $500 ) to a pawn shop and sold it. That item had been reported as stolen and the shop owner notified the police. What would happen to me if I told the police: “oh, I didn’t know it was stolen”. What would be a reason that would explain my actions to the cops? You don’t just find an X-box. Someone doesn’t just give you an x box. WTF!

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    • Derek

      A couple of things. First, you don’t have to prove your innocence so you hope that the client kept his mouth shut and offered no real stupid explanation for his possession of the property. Second, if either there was no explanation or a reasonable explanation was provided (“I sold dude, don’t know his name something, he give me this X-box in trade.” Cop: What did you sell him? “Umm, I think I’m gonna need a lawyer.”), proving receipt of stolen property is probably one of the harder cases for the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

      The property isn’t saying how your client got it and if the state doesn’t know how you got it, they have a hard time making a case. In short, without an admission OR records or other evidence that usually isn’t available, this is a case someone can beat.

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      • Cojones

        I thought “possession” was a crime in and of itself. Could be the guy named who asked him to sell in such a case and that’s called “cooperation”.

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        • Cojones

          If he accepted the X-Box to settle a debt the other guy owed him, wouldn’t it be charged as “Acceptance of stolen property”?

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          • You still have to prove knowledge of its stolen nature. It isn’t a strict liability offense like speeding. Whether you know you are speeding or even what the speed limit is is not relevant and that’s fine for violations and misdemeanors. But felonies, with almost no exception, require proof beyond a reasonable doubt of some guilty knowledge or intent. If I looked like a hobo an sold you a Ferrari for 100 bucks, a jury might say you knew it was stolen. If I sell you a 50k car for 50k and all the paperwork appears legit and I car jacked it an hour before I sold it, well that’s not your fault is it? Just because it turns out it was stolen does not mean you are responsible.

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            • Cojones

              Those are obvious observations, but if it is reported as stolen and you are caught selling it (which was this case), you have to prove due diligence or go to jail or report who “gave” it to you, wouldn’t you think?

              BTW, I’m in the market for an SUV of Asian origin, loaded and with great mileage. Two k, no questions asked. An extra k for obliteration of ID #s or just change the # brand just inside the windshield to match your docs. OK?

              And the Cam Newton example doesn’t work. Just because it was found outside his window on the ground goes under guilt by proximity. Everyone should stop trashing him for what was obviously a plant job by Meyers in order to get rid of him. And why did he have to serve “time” in JC? The song “Charlie Brown” comes to mind.

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    • An example would be if we were acquaintances and I told you to go to my place and grab my things and then sell them at a pawnshop. Obviously you are getting some money out of the deal and there is some reason I cannot go do it on my own.

      Now if the state cannot show you knew or the average person would have known then you did not knowingly receive stolen property and have committed no crime…..that can be proven.

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    • OK, obviously I’m not a lawyer. I guess it would be hard to prove in a court of law. In medicine we have a couple of sayings. 1. A thing is most likely to be, what it is most likely to be. 2. When you hear hoof beats- think horse, not zebra. Of course you still go through your differential diagnosis , ruling out various possibilities. But I can say during my entire life, neither me nor anyone I have known has ever just “happened” to come into possession of an item, sold that item and been “shocked, shocked I say” to find out that item was stolen. Has anyone else been falsely accused like poor Coleman Thomas?

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  6. CannonDawg

    Honestly, I’m just glad it’s their problem and not ours.

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  7. Mudcats Impala...

    Shocking developments… Just shocking… 😉

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  8. Uglydawg

    Note to UGA players….just don’t sell your own jersey, because that’s over the line.

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