“We have had it up to here with these students, with the public intoxication, public sex acts and fights.”

I don’t understand all the angst about handling this.  The solution is real simple:  outsource Jimmy Williamson and his troops for the week.  Nobody’s left to roust in Athens then anyway.

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39 responses to ““We have had it up to here with these students, with the public intoxication, public sex acts and fights.”

  1. PTC DAWG

    Just enforce the current law, problem solved.

    Blame the homeowners if they rent out a house to 20 people.

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    • Bulldawg165

      “Blame the homeowners if they rent out a house to 20 people.”

      And if they rent out to one person who then brings 19 friends? 😉

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      • PTC DAWG

        Know who you are renting too…I get your point, but Cops can be called….how hard is to just enforce current laws? Why do we always need more laws thatbthey obviously have no idea how to enforce?

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  2. georgiajeepn

    I cannot believe you even thought about writing that. They would go down there and find the only Georgia players and drag them back to the Athens jail! Even graduated ones…

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  3. Mayor

    I have a better solution–make the game home and away. That solves a whole lot of other problems caused by playing that game in JAX every year, too.

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    • Dog in Fla

      “We have had it up to here with these students, with the public intoxication, public sex acts and fights,”

      Mayor, you’ve got to fight for your right to party! Where’s your school spirit?

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    • JAX

      Because students won’t drink as much if the game were held in Atlanta? Your solution is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on this insightful blog.

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      • Mayor

        What? You think THIS is the dumbest thing ever on this blog? Hell, this isn’t even the dumbest thing I’ve written MYSELF on this blog. 🙂 And the problem for the St. Simons/Sea Island crowd isn’t that students drink and do sex-crazed things–it’s that they drink and do sex-crazed things THERE.

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  4. “Do you know what is gonna happen here tonight? And up at St. Simons and Jekyll Island and all those places where all those Dawg people have got those condominiums for four days? MAN, is there gonna be some property destroyed tonight! 26 to 21, Dawgs on top! We were gone. I gave up, you did too. We were out of it and gone. Miracle!”

    It’s called “tradition” St. Simons. You survived 1980 when the legal age was 18. You’ll be ok. Put some Lawrence welk on the iPad and some earplugs in your ears. They’ll all be gone by Monday and the sun will rise in the east. If you are worried about what somebody else’s kid is drinking on the beach you don’t have any real worries.

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    • Thanks for the memories, Derek. I get chill bumps just reading that great call. The greatest play in all of sports in the history of the universe.

      Is the behavior that much worse now than in the ’70’s? We raised some hell back then but it was nothing criminal.
      Maybe the lawyers can help me out, but how is it constitutional to have the drinking age 21 when a person is legally an adult at 18. I have mentioned that I had a childhood friend who died in Vietnam at age 18 fighting for this country and protecting these douchebags who write these f’ed up laws. If 18 year olds are too immature to drink then how are they mature enough to get married, buy a house, or die for their country? Sorry for the rant, just one of my pet peeves.

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      • Dog in Fla

        “how is it constitutional to have the drinking age 21 when a person is legally an adult at 18.”

        Because it’s the right of the States to get that full one hundred percent amount of Federal road money…

        “The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (23 U.S.C. § 158) was passed on July 17, 1984 by the United States Congress.[1] It punished every state that allowed persons below 21 years to purchase and publicly possess alcoholic beverages by reducing its annual federal highway apportionment by ten percent.[2]….

        The act was expressly upheld as constitutional in 1987 by the United States Supreme Court in South Dakota v. Dole.” wiki amirite

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Minimum_Drinking_Age_Act

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        • I am sure that the Supreme Court has upheld the law and the Feds can make the states obey by withholding highway funds but it still makes no sense to me. Was the reason for the law to reduce drunk driving? If so, why not raise the drinking age to 30? That would reduce drunk driving even more.

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          • Why not reinstate the Volstead Act? What could possibly go wrong? I don’t think there is any behavioral problem that can’t be solved by passing a law. I mean murder was made illegal and guess what? Zero murders! We should take pride in our ability to control people through legislation. It never, ever fails to work. These people that want to give up on the drug wars are crazy! We are just about to win it. Drugs are just about to be completely eradicated. We just need a few more prisons and a few more cops and it will be done. Victory is right around the corner!

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            • Cojones

              Hell, I’ll smoke to that!

              The Prudence Goody Twoshoes haven’t changed in over 50 yrs. Changing other peoples behavior is their business and they will bend Science in order to carry their interfering business out. These people protect us from this gateway behavior that will demonize any child watching and that ain’t drankin’. Yep, they can watch it and hear it on TV, but that doesn’t convince’em that it’s “OK” until they see it. All those people smokin’ and drankin’ on TV and the movies will convince those little weak minds that have non-attentive parents that they can do it too. Never mind their children’s training; those parents have the proper outlook and will hover over their children until they are 21, turned out to the world and go berserk finding out what they have been missing.

              If money doesn’t win this one at St Simons, this nation is going down the toilet. Wait a minute! That’s what they are trying to prevent! And they’re going to try to have it both ways?

              BTW, those 18 yr olds entering the service can drink on post immediately last time I heard. That’s because the military isn’t as strung out about a kid being old enough to do anything when they know they may have to put him in harms way and he may not live to see 21.

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              • Debby Balcer

                Not anymore the federal drinking age is 21too.

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              • AlphaDawg

                Underage drinking hasn’t been allowed on stateside bases since the early 90s. Foreign bases took a few years longer and was at the discretion of the base commanders but by 97/98 all US bases were 21 and older to purchase and consume.

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        • OK, I should have read your link first. The law was to reduce drunk driving. I also saw that the US is one of only 4 developed countries in the world that has a drinking age of over 18. S Korea -19, Iceland -20, and Japan -20 are the others.

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          • Derek

            its because “freedom.” Same politician that signed the Mulford Act. Ronald “Freedom” Reagan. Mr. small government himself. Mr. “Government isn’t the solution, its the problem.” Unless you are 20 and want a beer. Then we need us some gubmit. The more the better. You know every once in a while I get the impression that politicians just might be full of shit. We ought to at least give that some consideration.

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      • PTC DAWG

        Agreed.

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  5. paul

    We had a high schooler drink himself to death during senior week a couple of years back. More than anything else, we’d like to avoid having something similar happen during GA/FLA week. Last year there were videos of college kids having public sex out on the beach. We can do without that sort of publicity. Y’all come. Spend your money. Have fun. Just be at least somewhat reasonable, mind your manners and pick up your trash. Pretty much the same that’s expected at any game day tailgate.

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    • Cojones

      Uhh…where’d ya say those videos are?

      Think I’ll start a “Golden Oldies” porn record shop. Yall remember those don’t you? “I’m In the Nude for Love”, and “What’s This Thing Called, Love?” were two of my favorites.

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    • Simply ask people to act like they have class rather than acting like they’re in Panama City for spring break or a Gator fan. 🙂

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    • hailtogeorgia

      What’s to stop police from simply checking IDs? Doesn’t seem like it’s that difficult of an issue, really. If underage drinkers are a problem, check IDs.

      So you had a high schooler ‘drink himself to death’, as you so eloquently put it, and want to prevent that happening during GA/FL week. Why just GA/FL week? Want to prevent the firestorm of media coverage? Why not year round?

      Again, up the police presence and just have the police do their jobs. They don’t have to be assholes, but a few random ID checks and taking care of those who are out of line would go a long way. If there’s a fight or a public sex act, address it. If there’s drug use, address it. Otherwise, what’s the use of banning it entirely and crushing the economy for the weekend?

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      • AlphaDawg

        Back in the 90’s I used to frequent Myrtle Beach almost every weekend, you could get arrested for being stupid and drunk, spend the night in the drunk tank, pay a $150 dollar fine and be out to repeat the offense the next day with no record of arrest. Seems like a good model for St Simons.

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  6. Maybe it is because I enjoyed myself so thoroughly in these weekends as an under age dawg, but I have no sympathy. It has a huge economic impact in the area. I can understand why people get pissed about sex acts, but I just don’t care. While this is on a much smaller scale, it’s like a resident from NOLA complaining about somebody getting a blow j in a French quarter alley. Get over it. It is one weekend (really just a couple of days) of the year; don’t be lame St. Simons. You knew what you were buying when you decided to live there. Don’t kill tradition and freedom to break laws in peace. Just step up the police presence a little, and arrest the “bad apples.”

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  7. joe

    sounds like some guy is trying to use fear mongering to create some revenue for himself.

    I used to go down to saint simons for the game on Wednesday, and we would usually go out to the beach on Thursday and friday.

    Don’t remember it being a helluva lot different than your average summer weekend in ssi, when you cannot walk 3 steps without seeing someone you know. Guess it’s gotten worse.

    These poor kids today don’t realize how much cooler shit is when you are doing it on the sly. They think it’s great to put it all out for everyone to see. No place for subtlety anymore.

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  8. Bulldog Joe

    GET MICHAEL ADAMS ON THIS, STAT!

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  9. This reminds me–whatever happened to Freaknik?

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    • aristoggle

      It appears to have moved south. Check out this past weekend’s Orange Crush activities on Tybee – http://savannahnow.com/news/2015-04-20/tybee-officials-look-put-end-orange-crush.

      The beach parties are much different than what we experienced. They can blow up in hours when posted on social media. Frat Beach is also not just a bunch of UGA kids having a good time. It draws kids from Georgia Southern, and all over the region, including thugs and predators like in PCB.

      As for the economic impact, the package stores on St. Simons are careful not to sell to minors. The restaurants lose business because their parking spaces are taken up, and their restrooms trashed. Like Orange Crush, the activities cause public resources – law enforcement, Fire & EMS, public works – to be diverted and unavailable or delayed to people in need, and the trash left behind is an environmental nightmare, which washes into the ocean.

      There are discussions trying to address the situation without shutting it down completely; after all, it’s a public beach. Ideas include things like issuing wristbands to folks 21 & over, limiting access, etc.

      I, like many of you, am nostalgic for the old days, but this isn’t what we remember. I also don’t mean to sound like the proverbial, cranky old “get off my lawn” – or in this case, beach – guy, but these three events are out of control.

      Of course, the realist in me realizes they’ll just go somewhere else. After all, ballers gotta ball!

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      • DeputyDawg

        Well said and I strongly agree. My crew and I stop in St.Simon’s on the way to JAX every year for lunch/shopping/sight-seeing and we wanted to see Frat Beach before we graduated (just a few years ago now).

        We honestly, did not get out of our cars. The shit show on the way to the beach was enough to make us turn the convoy around and get as far away as possible. It’s easy to see how resources are strained as there weren’t enough ambulances to keep up with the [i’ll call them] casualties being left beside the road. It’s not fun partying; it’s quite sad and very dangerous.

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  10. Hey, we’re the fights public?

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  11. georgiajeepn

    Wow there are some brilliant people on here. Step up the police presence on that weekend. Who would have ever thought of that? Gonna be a shame that the police would be issuing their first ever citations if Saint Simons does crack down! The next thing you know Vegas will have police patrolling the Strip…

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