“The college game is killing us.”

I tell you what – if this is really a thing, any school out there running a pro-style offense that isn’t hyping the NFL to the skies to QB recruits is committing recruiting malpractice.

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31 responses to ““The college game is killing us.”

  1. Vince Dooley's Combover

    anytime there is a link to a CBS article, I just get sent to a generic CBS advert page. Any suggestions?

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  2. This is exactly why I think Mason has a chance to make it in the NFL.

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    • RBM

      The NFL wasn’t impressed enough to even sign him as an undrafted free agent, so I doubt he’ll stick. Hopefully his tryout with the Dolphins goes well.

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    • Mason is a DGD, but he needs to be thinking about his career outside football at this point rather than chasing a dream that probably isn’t going to happen. He doesn’t have the raw arm strength to make a lot of NFL throws. Good college QB whose physical skills don’t translate well to the next level. If you took Nick Marshall’s skills and combined them with Mason’s knowledge of and experience in the passing game, you would have a scary good player.

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      • Cojones

        That’s a good post and a nice comparison by addition. It doesn’t negate either man.

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        • Thanks, Cojones. Nick Marshall has the raw skills to be an NFL QB. Great arm, quick on his feet, and good (not great) size, but he just flat didn’t have the tutelage especially in the intermediate passing game to be anything other than a raw prospect. I’m still convinced that Marshall could have been a 1st rounder at corner with QB instincts in Patrick Peterson body if he hadn’t gotten in trouble in Athens.

          Regarding Mason, the guy wasn’t born with an NFL arm just like David Greene (he’s a right-handed David Greene), but he made up for it with his accuracy. The problem he’ll have at the next level is that windows are too small and close too quickly given his arm strength. If he plays his cards right, he could follow in the footsteps of his mentor, Mike Bobo, as a QB coach, offensive coordinator, and eventual head coach.

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          • JCDAWG83

            Great take. I really liked Mason as a qb, I wish we had him for another year. If he wants to have a football career, I think coaching is the way for him to go. For most players, college is the end of their playing days. This is true in all sports, not only football. To me, this is why getting the degree is so important and the scholarship is so valuable. We all know great high school athletes who didn’t have the grades to get into a college on scholarship who are working construction, food service, janitorial or other low skilled jobs. The degree is worth so much more than many give credit for.

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            • RBM

              If only programs would let the kids focus somewhat on those degrees, instead of being professional football franchises pretending to be part of a university.

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              • JCDAWG83

                It’s not as bad as some would have you think. Players have time for class and studying. They have more demands on their time than regular students but they are getting a free education too. Our graduation rate among football players shows getting a degree is very possible. The players that don’t try and get the degree, but focus solely on football try and say they don’t have time for school, but the Murrays and Conleys show they can be great on and off the field.

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          • Please don’t demean Greene like this. Yes they were both physically limited but Greene was a great qb. You knew Greene could bring us back and/or close the deal. We lost 2 close games and one we couldn’t get back into from behind last year. Greene goes undefeated with last years team. The only games mason won last year were when we crushed the opponent. The only exception was in Knoxville when mason played pretty poorly. 2 picks and less than 150 yards. Greene was taken in the third round. Every team passed on hutson as well they should have.

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            • Mayor

              “Greene goes undefeated with last year’s team.” Really? Is Greene going to talk CMR out of the pooch kick-off in the Tech game, when the Dawgs already have to game won and all they have to do is kick it deep to seal the win? Is Greene going to talk CMR into running Gurley (the best back in America) when the Dawgs have the ball first and goal from the South Carolina 4 yard line near the end of a close game? Is Greene going to have the team show up ready for the WLOCP instead of sleep-walking, particularly on D? Those were coaching issues not QB issues. You could make a case that Mason screwed up and caused the intentional grounding, but Greene would have done exactly what Mason did because that is what both were taught to do by CMR in that situation–throw the ball at the receiver’s feet.

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              • Is Greene going 16 of 25 with 2 picks and a measly 147 in Knoxville with a rb going for nearly 8 a pop? Cut it anyway you like but that sucks. It’s awful. It stinks. I don’t think tech or usc are close with Greene at QB and I don’t think we are unable to be competitive in Jax with Greene at qb. Mason was a liability. Greene may be the best we’ve had at the position. Comparing those two is an insult to Greene and my intelligence. David Greene won more games than anyone in college football history when he was done. Two east crowns and a sec title. The first conf. title in 20 years. The first two division titles ever. Mason kept us from having a special season. If you think DG ends his career at Sanford with a pick vs. tech well, I was in samford stadium when Greene had to come off the bench with an injury to save us on his senior day. Mason tossed it to yellow and lost the game.

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                • RBM

                  Mason wasn’t even close to being the QB that Greene was. Teams didn’t respect our passing game last year at all and stacked the box. Thankfully we had an awesome stable of stud backs and a good o-line (for once).

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                • Mayor

                  Good Lord, you douchebags sure are after Mason! I didn’t say that Mason was a better QB than Greene. Derek said: “Greene goes undefeated with last years (sic) team.” My point was the Dawgs would have gone undefeated anyway if CMR hadn’t screwed the pooch at the end of the USCe and Tech games and had gotten the team ready to play FU in Jax. It wasn’t Mason that lost those games–it was CMR. Could Greene have found a way to overcome CMR’s screw-ups? I don’t know. But I do know one thing–neither of you know either. You guys are just a couple of gasbags pontificating about stuff you don’t know and can never know. If you want to make idiots out of yourselves on this blog, fine. Just don’t insult last year’s (see how that is spelled) QB who is and was a DGD.

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                • You think you know better than 31 NFL front offices and I “pontificate.”

                  I responded to someone saying that mason was “a right handed David Greene.” Read above. Given his 42 career wins even with the albatross of CMR around his neck I like greene’s chances with the balance of the 2014 roster. The point is that Greene is an all time great and mason was our worst full year starter at qb since greg talley. The comparison b/w Greene and mason is objectively dumb by every conceivable measure.

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                • Mayor

                  You’re the one making the comparison, Derek

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            • What I meant by both of them is that neither of them had the physical tools to be an NFL QB. Even though Greene (a true DGD) did get selected in the draft, he never even sniffed playing time and realized quickly he needed to find another profession.

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      • gatorhater27

        “but he needs to be thinking about his career outside football at this point rather than chasing a dream that probably isn’t going to happen.”

        Who’s to say he isn’t? You can be damned sure that if I got invited to try out for an NFL team, I’d go for it, no matter how unlikely it was. Plus, I bet it’s fun as hell, too.

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        • Good point but I hope he doesn’t bounce from team to team for tryouts. I would love to see him make it! It would vouch for the great coaching and development he got from Richt and Bobo.

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  3. I like these posts from the Senator because of what the situation can potentially do for our recruiting, however I shed not one tear for the NFL types weeping and gnashing their teeth over their free minor league system making their evaluation job tougher.

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  4. JCDAWG83

    Maybe the NFL should start a farm system and develop their own talent? Yeah, like that’s gonna happen.

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  5. If I’m CMR and CBS, I take these quotes and give them to every QB they think will thrive in the Georgia pro-style system. While last year felt like a lot of I-formation and running downhill, the reality is that we run a lot of spread concepts mixed in with play-action off the I and throw a route tree that looks a lot like an NFL passing game.

    The QB has to make the reads, call adjustments at the line, and make throws using his progression. There are only a few schools that still do it this way: FSU, Georgia, Alabama, Miami, LSU and the real USC are the ones that come to mind.

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  6. BMan

    I’m sure Richt & company have been doing a good job of promoting the system to QB prospects. The NFL isn’t going to change unles they can drastically increase the size of their rosters with an accompanying salary cap increase. With 53 men on the roster and a salary cap, you can only pay one star QB, and he’s not going to be running.

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    • +millions – With free agency, the salary cap, and significant roster limits, teams don’t have the luxury of multiple starting QBs especially in a system that the QB gets hit regularly.

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  7. Bright Idea

    Colleges can say the same about HS QBs. They’re mostly running the spread with a few Wing Ts.

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    • Cojones

      And Richt goes for the pocket passers early (and gets them) because he sees the talent that fits our system long before the players are aware.

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  8. Mike Cooley

    Agree that Mason and Greene were similar physically. No way to know what we would have done last year with Greene. He’s a DGD and I’ll always be a fan but I think we remember him being a little better than he was. Greene’s biggest attribute was coolness under pressure. The only game from last year that I would say Mason just kept us from winning because he choked would be Tek. I don’t put the SC game on him. And Florida is one the defense has to wear.

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