A Memorial Day thought

Today, more than any other day, it’s worth reminding ourselves not to rely on the nobility of the sacrifices made by those serving in the armed forces to excuse the lack of wisdom of our elected officials who often put them in harm’s way for questionable purposes.  And when it comes to downplaying the honor of our troops because of questionable politics, vice versa.

To the former, I say thanks, sincerely.

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  1. Hogbody Spradlin

    Oh shut up, hippie. America, love it or leave it! 🙂

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  2. Excellent point, Senator. The men and women who are sent out in the uniform deserve our support, and the ones who return with serious injuries or in a flag-draped coffins really deserve to be honored along with their families. The politicians who send them there under questionable circumstances or try to undermine them for their own purposes … not so much.

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  3. Cojones

    Thanks, Mike. Good and thoughtful post that goes beyond the observance of those lost while serving their country.

    I would like to add that their families and veteran survivors of combat should be recognized and thanked on this day as well, but not forgotten afterwards. Their sacrifice goes on every day and many of us are fortunate to be living a normal life without devastating injury to contend with each waking hour. If you can do anything that would support their ability to enjoy life with you, then don’t hesitate to do so. They receive money, medical care and attention from the VA for wounds that show and those that don’t, but everyday life in society has been attenuated in our sense.

    Thank those veterans with what they need most and that’s your friendship.

    Peace through good politics. Yep.

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  4. Saddling up heading to Georgia Veteran’s Memorial Cemetery in Milledgeville. Dad was buried there this spring. My mom is there. My bride’s mom and dad are too. Dad was an Air Force vet. My dad-in-law was a Navy guy. PT boat. Told me a story once about his boat being chained to a ship and drug though a typhoon. Dad had no love for typhoons or the North China Sea in general. Two men from two different parts of the USA and two different branches of the Armed Forces. First meet when their kids started dating in high school. Now resting so close together.

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    • Dawg Vegas

      Thanks to your whole family, and the uncountable other families who have given so much for the citizens of our country.

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  5. Well said. It’s not enough to thank those who serve, not even enough to shake their hands, or give to the USO or other support groups (though we do so regularly in our house). We have to hold our leadership accountable for every decision that puts our troops in harm’s way.

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  6. JAX

    God bless the men and women of the US armed forces and God bless the United States of America.

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  7. CannonDawg

    From a soon-to-be released Civil War novel:
    “I walked more miles than there are grains of sand on a Savannah beach. I lost count of the many roots, wild berries, and crawling things I ate so I could find enough strength to move to the sound of the firing and join the fight, because I was a soldier. I chewed leaves for moisture when there was no stream. I drank the rain as fast as it could fall on my parched lips. My clothes were ragged, my shoes were beyond repair, my skin was cracked and burned and swollen from bites. I have been so hot that I forgot my own name, so cold that I was rendered incapable of even mumbling my own name, so tired that I could fall asleep standing. But when the battle lines were formed, when the flag of the Thirty-eighth Georgia came onto the field, I was in my place in the column because I was a soldier. I fired my musket, reloaded and fired again. When all around me my brothers were falling, I stayed in the fight and gave it all I had. And when I finally did fall, when I could fight no more, I fell as a soldier. My blood hallows the ground where I fought and fell with honor and courage. Being a soldier was not just what I did, it was who I was. And now I will go to my well-earned rest. I leave the fight to you, my brothers. There is no hardship you cannot endure, no battle you will not join, no greater love you can have for one another. Remember me for the bravery and the spirit with which I fought, and for the price that I willingly paid. I leave you now, but I will see you on the other side.”

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  8. Chadwick

    I’ve always kept that in my mind when our men and women deploy, but I’ve never seen it so eloquently written.

    Thanks for that reminder.

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  9. Mike Cooley

    Merle Haggard was asked about writing Fighting Side of Me one time and replied, “yeah that song got me into trouble with some people and it still does. I got tired of these people protesting something they didn’t even really know anything about. I got tired of how disrespectful they were toward this country and I thought to myself, ‘you folks have never had to live anywhere outside this wonderful country and all you want to do is run it down and you don’t even know why.’ It pissed me off so I wrote that song.” I mention the following not for attention or thanks or anything else, only for credibility, I served a tour apiece as a Marine in Afghanistan andIraq. I do get damn tired of the moral equivilancy games that I see played by the oh so compassionate left in this country. Like Hagg, I don’t mind them standing up for things they believe in, but when it crosses over into disrespect, It pisses me off. And I would just say to the “oh I support the troops I just don’t like the war” crowd, two days a year, today and Veterans Day, if you can’t say something nice or can’t say something nice without qualifying it somehow, please just shut the fuck up. Everybody enjoy your BBQ. God bless America (not “merica”).

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    • Macallanlover

      Magnificent Mike, that is my position as well but I couldn’t have said it as well, or without blasting the self righteous groups who play politics with the serious issue of military actions. There is always time to Monday Morning QB the decisions our leaders make, and I certainly come down on a different side of a few of them, but none of that should undermine what our military has done. To disrespect the U.S. military’s soldiers is damned well enough to put them on the fighting side of me. Trying to wrap it in political bullshit makes it even worse. We have made some mistakes, but we have nothing to apologize for. Left alone, we wouldn’t have had to fire a shot outside our borders.

      Bless the soldiers who serve, and have served, this once great nation, and bless their families….and do so unashamedly.

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      • Thanks to all of you for sharing..now I am weeping. My Grandfathers, may they rest in peace were very Courageous Men. Told me wonderful stories when I was a little girl, about places far away where they suffered much sadness and loss. Love you Poppy and K-Pa. Miss you everyday, especially today. 🇺🇸🎈

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    • As sensitive as some are to the ill conceived statements of the “so compassionate left” I wish there was greater sensitivity to to the “oh so goddamnded stupid right” who tell us its our obligation to fight Iraqi, Syrian, Arabian fights for them so they don’t have to. That they do it as if their willingness to sacrifice some kid from Kansas makes them MORE patriotic than those who are more concerned about the kid from Kansas than the entire populations of Mosul, tikrit, fallujah and Baghdad combined really pisses me the fuck off. There have been few days in the past century that I haven’t had someone in my family serving in a branch of our armed forces, including 2 today. In exchange for the sacrifice and the blanket of protection that the armed services provide to all of us, we should commit to putting their lives in jeopardy only when it is absolutely necessary and not because some asshats have decided to conduct a democracy experiment in the middle of hell. Iraq was fucking stupid. I can’t think of anything more patriotic to say on any day than that. If we can remember that, maybe we won’t do it again. And those who think it demeans those who died or lost limbs there to say anything bad about the mission all I can say is that I did what I could to prevent it in the first place. Just as I had those fellow Americans in mind when I opposed the war in Iraq we should honor their sacrifice by insisting that it never happen again. “Rah rah-ing” that mistake or ignoring what a tremendous fuck up it was disserves them and risks the lives of those to come.

      If that pisses off you or the okie from Muskogee, well you know I don’t give a fuck. Happy Memorial Day to you anyway.

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      • Hogbody Spradlin

        Was it the stupid right that got us involved in Vietnam, Dreck?

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      • Macallanlover

        The only thing “fucking stupid” here has been your commentary. You don’t understand Memorial Day so never wish it because from you it is hollow and meaningless. But real Americans will fight for your right to be stupid in public, Lord knows there are enough of you.

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        • He just wanted a reaction, and man did he get it! Frankly I am thankful for everyone sharing their glorious stories of loved ones who served and are serving. God Bless America and The Bulldawg Nation! 🇺🇸🎈

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    • Uglydawg

      Great posts,Mike and Mac….I remember being moved by the scene in “Forest Gump” where all of the asshole hippies, politicains and beautiful people had their say (on stage) about the war..When the soldier Gump, who had actually been to Vietnam got up to give his thoughts, the stage sound system went dead and he was muted. Great scene in a great movie.
      And when LBJ insisted on seeing Gump’s wound that was “in my buttocks”, he was subsequently disgusted and walked away..”Damn, son, I wish I hadn’t seen that”. An appropriate parody on when LBJ insisted on visiting VN during the hostilities and then after seeing the disgusting truth, he walked away from the office he held by refusing re-eleciton. There are none so full of wisdom as those who don’t have an f’ing clue about what they are moralizing over. They are driven by uninformed emotions.
      Realize, though, when people say, “Send in the Marines” or “Blow their asses our of the water”, or “Bomb them back to the Stone Age”…they are not counting the cost. Somebody’s kid, father, husband, etc. has to go do it and some of them will be maimed and some will die. We need to “Walk quietly and carry a big stick”, as Teddy Roosevelt said, but use that stick when it’s really needed. “Really” needed. We have politicians today that couldn’t care less about this country or it’s Service People…they will and have politicized every single thing to gain more power…power that is being taken from the people.
      God bless those who have given it all. They gave up their future for us. May God rest their souls and the souls of the ones who miss them .

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      • The hippies cheered loudly whatever it was that Forrest had to say. You may hate them but you are no more an American than they are. I certainly agree that there were draft dodgers and Jane Fonda’s actions were horrific. However there were many people whose anti-Vietnam sentiments were not anti-American. We should not paint with such broad brushes. Some people wanted that war to end because it was a bad idea and the idea of any more Americans dying there was unacceptable. What I can’t figure out is why some save their anger for those who wanted it to stop and give none to the leaders both political and military who thought nothing of continuing to send young men into that ridiculous fight. Why curse hippies today? Why not McNamara or Nixon or Kissinger or Cheney? If we are set on hating other Americans today those would be the ones who we should feel animus toward on a day like today. Hippies? Why waste time on hippies? Hippies have gone away pretty much. The war profiteers and war mongers are still about trying to get us in another one. I just hope we’ll be smarter this time.

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        • Uglydawg

          Derek…did I hit a nerve? If you’ve got a problem with what I said fine, but please don’t misquote me to make your emotional argument. I did’nt say that I hate hippies. So you bear false witness. If you can’t argue honestly, no one is going to take you seriously.
          I can screw up enough without an emotionally charged blog-bully putting words in my mouth. And who said they had no right to speak? Not me. I only mention that Gump didn’t GET to exercise HIS right to speak. This was a parody on the media of the 60’s…not the hippies. And, Derek..please tell me…did I say they’re not Americans? No. I was just pointing out that men that actually went to Vietnam never had a voice and got shit on. We were told not to wear our uniforms when we went through SFO on the way back because we would be abused. They knew who we were anyway and heaped out plenty of abuse. THAT”S hatred. Spit on a man just because he answered his nation’s call…right or wrong though that call may be.( BTW..I was never personally spit on, but was verbally abused. I thought it was silly…and sad for the ones that were having such sport at another human being’s expense).

          And “hippies'” have not gone away..nor will they ever..they just morph into new garb and titles…while maintaining their faux-moral hypocricy to justify their sorry assed ways. (See the “occupy” movement)
          Honestly, I believe a few people were sincerly against the war. Mostly, I believe ( as I hope you will agree is my right) that most of them were caught up in the hoopla, partying and civil disobedience that some were using to divide us. Some things never change.
          Yeah..the war was awful…but here’s something you’ve never heard…A very real reason for the anti-Vietnam war sentiment was racism..American racism…on the LEFT. Oh, it was fine for Americans to lose thousands of it’s finest in Europe…fighting for the freedom of those who look like us…but a little place in Indo-China….where people still plow with bufflalo, go barefooted, eat fish-heads and rice with chopsticks while squatting…American blood to free them…not so much. If it had been Scottland, there wouldn’t have been much of a protest. The same problem exists today, where we ignore attrocities in Africa.. because..well, you know.
          People on the left…and yes I include you… from your viral misquoting and attack on me for voicing my view….are the most intolerant people of all.
          And I do have animostiy for McNamara, LBJ and the others who would screw the whole world for whatever ungodly reasons they had.
          Again, Derek..I enjoy your posts and opinions, but when you disagree with mine, please say so without misquoting or twisting what I wrote.

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          • Uglydawg

            Derek..and having, admittedly angerly writing that rebuke..I’d like to complement you on your usual balanced and honest way of looking at isssues..both sports and stuff like this.
            Let’s agree to honor those who gave their lives so we can actuall argue ou opinions? Peace?

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            • I agree with that. I agree that anybody who abuses a service member should be beaten, badly. Anyone who did that is a friggin moron. I don’t think that racism was the left’s problem in Vietnam. Germany declared war in U.S. Japan attached Pearl Harbor. WWII was no war of choice. If people anywhere what to be free, like we decided, then fight for it. it wasn’t and is our job to set the world free.

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    • Debby Balcer

      Amen my daddy was career army served 35 years was part of the Vietnam War twice. When I was a kid protesters surrounded our base calling soldiers baby killers and other names. It was traumatic. My dad had to change into civvies as he landed on American soil. People have no idea what it is like to serve. My father in law served in WWII and Vietnam. My husband served for seven years. I have two nephews currently serving. Troops deserve real respect for their sacrifices.

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  10. Lrgk9

    I tell you something that pissed me off, A Democrat Politian referring to Veteran Healthcare as an ‘Entitlement;.

    Got a Kid in Korea on the trip wire now.

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  11. Mike Cooley

    Its not a debate. You’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. For me this isn’t all academic as it is for you. I’ve actually been there and paid a price for it as opposed to you who just speak of it in the abstract. Pussies like you make yourselves feel better by bleating over and over again the kind of affluvia that you treated me too above. You don’t haeve a clue what you are talking about because you’ve never gotten anywhere close to it. You don’t have the balls. And deep down you hate yourself for it. But hey, you’re welcome. And you can fuck right off you little bitch.

    P.S. I. Going to see Hagg in July, I’ll tell him what you said.

    Punk.

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    • I love the smell of testosterone in the morning.

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      • Mike Cooley

        And I, the smell of estrogen.

        The thing about the truth is that it’s true.

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        • As you said, you are entitled to your opinion.

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          • doofusdawg

            Not really… and that’s what memorial day is all about. Thanks to all who have served and continue to serve.

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        • Uglydawg

          Mike, believe me..I understand your anger from a very personal perspective. You aren’t the lone GTP fan that is a war veteran. I was almost driven out of a local “progressive” university for comments that I made to a bunch of 18 year old dreamers and a hippy professor. We’ve got a lot of self-rightous dreamers who have such open minds that their brains have fallen out. They’ve never expeienced what you have and they never will. God bless you. Glad you made it home.
          But there’s more to the story..(about college). There was a retired Gunny Sgt. in my class that covered my back when the rightous liberals had me reeling. He had his say in no uncertain and certainly not civil terms or tones.. He dressed down the “professor” as only a career Marine could, picked up his stuff, and walked to the door as if to leave..but then just stood there for about ten seconds with his back to the class. Everyone was scared. What would he do? Just as the tension hit it highest peak, he farted loudly and walked out. He never came back. GREAT statement!
          Another vet…Army…a black guy who hadn’t said a word through the whole thing..looked sadly at me and said, “let it go man..they don’t know anything. I started to answer him and he said again, “let it go. It’s over”.
          I’m pretty old now, but I remember that day like it was last week.
          As much as I can, I’ve tried to take his advice. He was right..and they don’t understand. They can’t. It’s all philisophical to them..while it’s all real to you. You lived it. It will forever be at least some of what makes you who you are and will become. Control it and take the good and forget the awful.
          Those who are philisophically driven and have never lived out the reality “Can’t handle the truth”. But they mean it when they say they “support” you. We’re all just humans trying to get by and mostly do what’s right.
          All of this is not to say that war is good. It’s not. Or that all pacifists are anti-veteran..they’re not…or all vets glorify war…we don’t. It’s just to let you know that the strife you’re feeling is to be expected.
          My hat is always off to the Jarheads! At least the streets of Heaven are safe!

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    • “Lighten up, Francis.”

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    • Your hostility is grossly misdirected. It is that insistence on not questioning wartime decisions that results in so many decisions that its now wartime. In doing so, you disserve your own purpose and risk those who will later walk in your shoes. If you think that your posture: don’t talk bad about the war! does anything but ensure the war mongers the cover they need to leave people like you splayed on a battlefield or living your life without a limb or two or living your life mentally defunct because of the ravages of war you are just wrong. If you think Iraq was a great idea then say that stupid shit. If you now realize it was as dumb as it could’ve been, you aren’t doing anybody any good by holding it in. If you want our men and women to fight just causes in the future hold those responsible for Iraq accountable. The politicians to come will take note and act accordingly. It’s up to you.

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    • When you see Merle be sure to call him a pussy too b/c the only time he served was at San Quentin

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      • Uglydawg

        Now, DIF…are you saying that someone who didn’t serve in the military should be called a pussy?
        Besides, he would have joined if he hadn’t turned twenty one in prison doing life without parole. His ma tried. But give him credit..he admits he has only himself to blame.
        Now, Willy was in the Airforce..so don’t call him a pussy.

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  12. “living your life mentally defunct because of the ravages of war ”

    Well, they went to war; what’s your excuse?

    Mike’s hostility is pretty much dead on target; apparantly we can’t have just one day to honor the soldier’s sacrifice without it being wrapped in sanctimonious political broadsides. You once again preen and posture as some brave teller of hard truths, but in reality you simply can’t let a moment pass to haul out another tacky display of moral vanity. For those of us that wore a uniform other than that of the company softball team, today is not a day to engage in tedious, often dishonest debates about Iraq, but a day to honor those that have fallen in all wars, and calling yourself a patriot because you demean their sacrifice doesn’t make you one, it makes you a gaping asshole.

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    • You tell him my Man! Guess he lost out on loving someone who fought for our Freedom. Today is a day to honor our beloved warriors. Our hearts are full of JOY for your lives of honor and integrity. 🇺🇸

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    • Mike Cooley

      Bravo sir. Perfectly stated.

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    • Mike Cooley

      Hammer meet nail.

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    • I didn’t suggest it WAS. But don’t tell me what I can’t say. If you are Irish as you suggest in your name you’d know better. Mike started the politics and deciding what was appropriate to say and not to say. It isn’t HIS fucking day. It’s all of ours. He is the one being disrespectful. My people have been here since the 1600’s. I have had relatives fight in every war this country has fought including the American Revolution. I’ll say what I please and nobody is going to tell me what I can and can’t say or when.

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      • Yeah, you’re a real Yankee Doodle Dandy. Get over yourself, no one’s infringing on your rights. No one give a shit when your people got here and your veteran relatives are all better men than you. It takes a rare breed of asshole to take a Memorial Day thread and make himself the victim; congratulations, you are that kind of asshole. Yes, you can say whatever you like; we can also call you out for being a self righteous half wit.

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    • Uglydawg

      Wonderfully said. Thank you sir!

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  13. ASEF

    Was Pat Tillman a pussy? Just checking. He’s a perfect fit for your definition, Mike.

    There are two kinds of disrespect for our military. I don’t see anyone demeaning troops or their efforts these days. I do still see politicians hiding behind them to avoid talking about policies. That’s a disrespect I can’t stand. They are defending our country from evil, not some bureaucrats from accountability.

    And if you can’t agree with that Mike, no problem. God bless America and your service.

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    • Mike Cooley

      I have absolutely no problem with what you say here. My issue is not with questioning our leaders. When we stop doing that we are done. I personally loathe both the democrats and the republicans. My problem is that we can’t have one freaking day where we just honor those who have served and that is the end of it. My comments directed at Derek are just that. They are not meant for every single person who hasn’t served in the military. Irishdawg understands where I’m coming from exactly. Derek couldn’t just keep his mouth shut this one day. And that’s the shit I am so sick of hearing. We can’t just celebrate Memeorial Day. We have go Into the who shot John and put out all the qualifiers. I disagree that nobody today is demeaning the troops. It happens pretty regularly and what makes it even more disgusting is people like Derek do it in such an authoritative, sanctimonious tone despite the fact that they’ve never been near a war and have never served a single day. And I would imagine, probably hold those who do and have served in contempt more than anything, the Derek’s of the world are those who view patriotism, as corny, the product of a low IQ, and even dangerous. His comment about “rah rahing” stinks of that. These are the people who say things like, “people join the military because they aren’t smart enough to go to college.” Then they turn right around and preach about how the elites use the unwashed in their military machine. Fuck him. None of us want his sympathy. And sure as hell don’t want to hear what he thinks on a day like to day.

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      • Im glad to be the guy you can shoehorn all of your hostilities into. You suggest I think things I haven’t said and think about those who serve that I don’t. You don’t know a damn thing about me but you are apparently happier the more baseless and shrill you become. You want to celebrate America in the only way people like you can: by identifying who are real Americans and who isn’t? And you asked for the fight with your first post telling us what we can or can’t say. You can try and serve as judge jury and executioner for all those who fall short in your eyes. I’ll say what I want wherever and whenever I want. I say simply that those who blindly followed a dumb ass oil executive who got six military deferments into a war and call him more patriotic than those who were against it are fucking dumbasses. Today we celebrate over 4000 of his victims. God bless those who gave the ultimate sacrifice and may there be a hell for if there is it was made for people like dick Cheney.

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        • Tatum

          Shut the fuck up and go away.

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        • Mike Cooley

          I know you will say what you want, when you want, wherever you want. Just like a screaming child who isnt getting their way. You don’t have the decency to do otherwise. Yet somehow I doubt you would be so bold anywhere other than the Internet. In fact Im sure you wouldn’t. Funny that you said what you said about me deciding who the real Americans are. That’s kind of what you do. You hate people like me because you know you could not, even on your best day, do the things we have done. You just want us to give more of our money to those that you think deserve it and continue to put foot to ass on the battlefield so that cowards like you dont have to do it. All the while you give us a ration of your self loathing shit and do so while holding yourself up as some sort moral and intellectual authority. It’s a dean good thing that guys like me exist because we allow you to never have to give a dean thing to enjoy the freedom you enjoy. so continue to disrespect those who you aren’t fit to tie their shoes. You are a cowardly piece of shit and you will always be angry at and lash out at those who are not. It’s obnoxious but it’s also kind of funny.

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          • You do know you started this right? If you think I won’t say what I have to say in person you are wrong. I do it every day.

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      • Amen brother. Today is not the day to wear your fucking politics on your sleeve. I too despise democrats and republicans alike. I am far from right wing and often share some of Derek’s views, but he is out of line here and I totally agree with Irishdawg. The problem with ideology is that you only see issues in black or white and get too consumed in being right all the time. This leads to the self-righteous, sanctimonious bullshit being spouted here today. Just because you don’t jump in and defend your side’s position on EVERY fucking issue doesn’t mean you aren’t a good little lefty or righty. This kind of blind defense is born out of narcissistic arrogance, not ideology. Wisdom sometimes means just knowing when to keep your fucking mouth shut. In deference to service men and women like you, I choose not to espouse any of my views on the justification for Iraq today. We’ve got all year for that. I, like 98% of Americans, have no idea what it is like to face combat and the sacrifice of any service person’s life should never be devalued by arguments, or exploitations, from either side. Today isn’t even about patriotism, it is about solemn rememberence of fallen men and women in the service of our country. If you can’t do that, show some common decency and find something else to occupy your day. It’s the wise, compassionate thing to do. Thanks for your totally VOLUNTARY service to your country, Mike. May God bless you and your fallen brothers and sisters.

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        • Again I agree with the sentiment, but mike made it about politics. Should I have let him have his way? I don’t know but I don’t like it when anybody assumes authority that they don’t have. Hell I don’t like assuming authority over me that they DO have. The assumption I suppose is that I am a lefty. The truth is that I am a anti-authoritarian in every respect. Mike decided that he could say that the “so compassionate left” should just shut up today and tip their hat to him. I’m not so inclined. He doesn’t get to decide that for me. Whether that makes me a child or a coward or whatever Mike wants to call me I couldn’t care less. What i do care about is deciding things for myself and not being told what to think or what to say. My forebearer came to this country against his will and with one ear. The Brits cut it off because he wouldn’t pledge loyalty to the king. We haven’t changed much.

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          • “Iraq was fucking stupid. I can’t think of anything more patriotic to say on any day than that.”
            “If that pisses off you or the okie from Muskogee, well you know I don’t give a fuck. ”

            These are from your first post. Yeah, clearly Mike was the aggressor here, you menopausal bedwetting crybaby. You could have let his post slide on a day like today, like so many others ignore your incoherent brain sharts that you hijack every other thread with, or your ridiculous screeds about revolution like you’re William Wallace. But you had to chime in and basically piss on the man’s service, and then you play the victim when he calls you out. You constantly attack people with bad faith motivations of bigotry or call them stupid, and then try and chalk it up to your fiesty one eared ancestor instead of the fact that you’re a weapons grade prick. You think you’re the lone, brave voice of wisdom in this land of savages, but just because you once read a Howard Zinn book that you half understood doesn’t make you smart. You’re not.

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          • Hey, now you sound like a tea partier! Just kidding man. My forbearers were brought here as debtors and thieves, so you’re one up on me. Anyway, I’m about as easy-going as they come so no problem. Keep ’em flying brother.

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      • Uglydawg

        Ooh Rah!

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  14. Mr. Jaques

    I got to say both Derek and Mike look bad in this exchange. Both of you cussing each other out and assuming the worst about the other’s intentions reflects poorly on your manhood. Congratulations for giving some other dude hell on the internet. If ya’ll are really comfortable with who you are then you should just be able to say your piece and let it go instead of raging at each other throughout the day.

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  15. Enough! Let’s all go eat BBQ and edify one another before this wonderful day is over!🇺🇸🎈

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  16. Uglydawg

    I plead guilty to polluting the intention of honoring our fallen heros on this post today. Sorry.
    I remember and appreciate their ulitmate sacrifice. While I live every day and enjoy life..their fate was to perish so that I may do so. RIP, American Heros!

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  17. CannonDawg

    I would think that today of all days we could leave aside the political differences and honor our American war dead. Those killed in battle were Democrats and Republicans, of different races and religions, different hopes and aspirations, but they had one thing in common . . . they died in service to this nation. People of goodwill can (and will) argue over what was a right or wrong war, whether Nimitz should have adopted MacArthur’s tactics in World War II, whether Truman should have let the U.S. Army deal the Chinese a death blow in Korea, whether body counts were a better metric in Vietnam than territory gained and kept.

    But c’mon, guys, today’s not that day. The American war dead gave something all of us on this blog haven’t given, likely never will, and quite possibly will never personally know anyone who did. They gave everything they had, and I don’t see how we honor them by cursing one another like it’s a blog about Mike Bobo or Butts-Mehre.

    To quote Mr. Lincoln, this should be a day when we are guided “by the better angels of our nature.”

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    • Normaltown Mike

      “Those killed in battle were Democrats and Republicans,”

      And Whigs and Free Soilers and Federalists and Anti-Federalists and Democratic-Republicans

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