Tape don’t lie.

After being caught on tape punching a woman in the face last month at a Tallahassee bar, FSU quarterback De’Andre Johnson managed to bypass a baseball team suspension and go straight to outright dismissal from the football program.

State’s attorney Willie Meggs, who decided to charge Johnson after seeing video of the incident, said the woman still had a black eye when he met with her last week.

Shit, when you’ve lost Willie Meggs, you’ve got real problems.

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59 responses to “Tape don’t lie.

  1. Dolly Llama

    I’ve read some comments at other boards saying “Dude, she started it, hit him first. When is SHE gonna be charged?” I have to wonder if they’re watching the same video I watched. And that place must have the most oblivious bartenders in Tallahassee.

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    • AthensHomerDawg

      Baez stated that his client was not the initial aggressor. I guess getting pushed aside while waiting to order is not considered aggressive. She is lucky she only has a few bruises. And even one of our own players tweeted that she was deserving of type of police charge for her part in the incident.

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      • I would not really call that getting pushed aside, but let’s say it is and you do that to me. I do not think I get to turn and punch you in the face. If that level of contact at the bar was sufficient to give rise to people punching each other Athens would be a very unsafe place every fall Friday night.

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        • I can agree with that. But if I do jostle you after you arrive first and I attempt to squeeze you over you certainly can object to my rudeness. And if I take my forearm and continue to sweep you aside you might raise a hand and warn me not to continue. IF I grab your raised arm and you ask me loudly to let go of your arm… and I continue to hold you? Yeah you might punch me. Both individuals have a share of the blame. But hitting her in the face like that just is over the top.

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        • DawgPhan

          seems pretty clear that he created the situation. Anything that happens after that is a result of his instigation of the situation. Everything that happens after that is his fault.

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          • reipar

            Even if you are right that he instigated the situation everything that happens after that is not his fault. If someone insults your momma you cannot punch him in the face and say he instigated it.

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            • DawgPhan

              Looks like he bumps into her and then grabs her left arm. She tried to pull it back and cant. She then raises her right hand and he grabs that. He created the situation when he grabbed both of her arms and attempted to detain her.

              At that point, in florida, it would have been legal to pull out a weapon and shoot the kid in the face and finish your drink.

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      • DawgPhan

        which player?

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        • Debby Balcer

          Jenkins but he did not defend as much as question why Hope Solo got a much lesser punishment for the same crime.

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      • PTC DAWG

        Any man who would hit a woman like that is useless to me. You can have them.

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  2. Spike

    Coach Malzahn is holding on line 2 for the young man, to offer a second chance at Second Chance U…

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  3. Tim

    I still think the punishment should be this kid getting punched by Kimbo Slice. Just one man’s opinion.

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  4. Agree ! Or a Joe Lewis Punch would be effective. 🎈

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  5. Lakatos Intolerant

    Although I’ve not seen myself – the initial version was enough to thoroughly disgust me – I hear there is a longer, more comprehensive video showing where she tries to knee him in the midsection as well; regardless, I have zero respect for anyone who handles himself in that manner, and – in my opinion – anyone offering any level of defense for this guy needs some serious time to reflect. Sure, he and his defense team will claim self-defense and that he felt “threatened” during the criminal proceedings, but we all know that’s a crock. In his tiny little brain, the right cross was the one and only way of defusing that situation, which is truly sad and something I hope he pays a hefty price.

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  6. Brandon

    I’m more amazed at the other guys at the bar standing there watching the incident and doing nothing. Where I come from, if any man hits a woman like that he’s not making it out of there without a serious beating by half the bar.

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  7. georgiajeepn

    Has anyone else noticed that she was outwrestling him when the coward decided to punch her? She meant he was not gonna push her out of the way. Also she can either take a punch or he cannot deliver one cause she stayed on her feet. Even Hanz and Franz could see how he took off like a girly man after he tried to coldcock her! Now if these dumbass junior colleges would stop taking wussies like him in for a year then they could go ahead and fully start their criminal careers instead of playing football.

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  8. DaddyRichATL

    There is never a right reason to hit a woman, but the same should also be true for women hitting men.
    I see the FSU QB politely asking a woman to let him through and the “victim” was already mouthing off to him over her shoulders. By the time he’s facing her she’s threatening to punch him with her right hand. He restrains the right hand in defense and she knees him before throwing a punch with her left hand.
    If that were me (I am male) in a bar with any of you guys, I’m sure I wouldn’t have even gotten the benefit of my right hand being restrained before you knock me out.
    Oh and someone please explain what “coldcock” means to to georgiajeepn please, he must not have seen the tape of the LSU running back …or he simply thinks the meaning of the word changes because the victim is a lady.
    The FSU QB is wrong, but so is she.

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    • georgiajeepn

      No one needs to explain anything to me. You are defending a MAN who hit a WOMAN then took off running like the coward he is. There are certain degrees of coldcocking someone I am sure but I do know he thought he was hitting her as hard as he could. He meant he was pushing her out of the way the second he approached the bar and all because he was a FSU football player he thought she was dissing him by STANDING HER GROUND. That law has been put to good use in Florida and I am all for it. The only reason she should have just stepped out of the way is for her safety in case he had actually been able to knock her out like he tried. He must have been too far away from his posse to back him up is why he showed how yellow he is and ran to the parking lot. The main thing is he would have gotten away with it if it had not been captured by a camera. His parents must be so proud.

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  9. Cousin Eddie

    I don’t care if she hit him with a bottle and called him a washed up uf QB (I know he WAS at FSU hence the additional insult of being called a uf player) a real man should never hit a woman, knowing he has “allegedly” done this at least once should have his hands tied and put in a ring with Ronda Rousey.

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    • reipar

      The fact you think Rhonda Rousey would need for his hands to be tied is a bit sexist.

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    • DaddyRichATL

      Agreed Cousin Eddie, a real man should NEVER hit a lady; but isn’t it extremely sexist to think it’s okay for a real woman to hit a gentleman?

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      • shane#1

        The key word there is gentlemen. Gentlemen don’t cut in line in front of ladies. Hope they lock him up and throw away the key, There is a word for that, punching a lady and running, it’s chickenshit.

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        • reipar

          The key word thing cuts both ways. A guy should not punch a lady. Nothing in that video to indicate she is a lady any more then he is a gentlemen.

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          • DawgPhan

            why do you want to die on this hill…such a weird thing to spend your day defending some guy who punch a woman in the face and then ran off..

            to each his own, but just seems weird to me.

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            • reipar

              I am not defending him at all. I just find it odd that since he hit a girl it seems no other issues are relevant. I wonder if he had punched a guy if everyone would react the same way. Just to clarify I am not talking about the team aspect, but the criminal aspect.

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              • DawgPhan

                He grabbed her first. He initiated physical contact. I am not sure how you are missing this.

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              • Would not care if he hit a guy one bit, could care less if THAT makes me a sexist. Totally different deal between two guy and a guy and a girl. Hope you can understand the difference. I could care less about the legal BS in this case no excuse to strike a female. Defend yourself until you can get away.

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              • paul

                Why do you find it odd that “since he hit a girl it seems no other issues are relevant?” That’s all we need to know. We do not need to see video. It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever what the woman said, did or did not do. You never hit a woman. Period. For any reason. Ever. End of story. It’s amazing to me how many commentators here want to argue the details. None if it matters. He hit a woman. Nothing else matters. You can never justify that. It is never okay. Never.

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                • Wonderful that you feel that way! However, you would be surprised how many men think they are justified in physical abuse. It is embarrassing for a Woman/Wife to tell anyone about what goes on behind closed doors. At least this occurred in a public place. There were witnesses. Makes for a good case in putting these Bastards in the Pokey!

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            • reipar

              By the way did you google Zimmerman and stand your ground?

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              • DawgPhan

                why would I do that?

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                • reipar

                  Based on your comment regarding FL law:

                  “At that point, in florida, it would have been legal to pull out a weapon and shoot the kid in the face and finish your drink.”

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                • JonDawg

                  It was said in jest.. and you are the other only one who didnt get it.. wow you are on a tear today son.

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        • PTC DAWG

          Agreed..folks have no concept of manners these days…IF you are the QB for FSU, you can’t possibly think you could behave just anyways you wanted…oh wait…forget that.

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      • Never said it was ok for a lady to hit a man. Said “if she hit him” was stating he is responsible for his actions and reactions.

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  10. 69Dawg

    The act of a mere touching is a battery. If he touched her without her consent then he committed a misnomer battery and she can respond. I guess he must have touched her first, after that she can use whatever force to defend herself even if it exceeds the initial force. The law does not guarantee a fair fight. As far as the punch to the face is concerned, that just means that she was right to fear for her safety. This dude is toast if FSU has abandoned him. I guess he is finding out that he was not the starter.

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    • FYI The act of mere touching is not a battery. At least not legally.

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      • AthensHomerDawg

        Rep. Wat’s up with you today? He shoved the girl , pushed the girl and when she objected… he grabbed the girl. When she said let me go he didn’t respond. She smacked him a glancing blow. He punched her out and ran.
        GOODNESS! what are you defending here? This isn’t about equal rights. It doesn’t mean fair or not. I don’t have a daughter. I have a sister,mom,wife. Lord help anyone that hurts them like that young man did that young girl.

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        • Not sure what you are talking about. The statement was any unwanted touching is a battery. No it is not. Other statements have been that no male can ever hit a female. That too is false. Not saying this kid is innocent of a crime, but just because a guy punches a girl does not equal a crime. Hence why I asked would everyone feel the same way if two guys got into a fight at the bar?

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      • j4k372

        Wrong. If you touch someone that does not want to be touched, that is battery in the state of Florida. I should know, I sat on a jury and had to find an old woman guilty of battery because she put her hand on another woman when they were arguing about gardening.

        Once this guy grabbed her arm it was game over for him. The people defending his actions are a curious lot. He pushed her in the back a couple of times. He escalated before she ever turned around. My Father would have taken me to the woodshed for even retaliating against a woman.

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  11. georgiajeepn

    Yes Reipar you are correct. I will say just what you want to hear. A man hitting a woman is exactly like a man hitting another man. She got what she deserved. Bring him back to FSU. His right hook rules all right hooks. Reipar made us all look like fools on here today. You won Tuesday.

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