Recruiters read comment threads.

Internet wisdom, for the win:

“Really what every school says, tells the recruit that they’ll have playing time and they can coach them up and maybe get them to the NFL,” Manac told the AJC.

This is the same pitch that 3-star cornerback Chad Clay gets from Ohio State, the team that finished second to the Bulldogs when Clay committed in May, and Oklahoma.

While this is a pretty typical pitch that committed players receive, they aren’t always this cordial.

“I’ve heard some schools say, ‘Do you want to be an underachiever? They always underachieve,’ or, ‘When’s the last time they won a championship?’ Stuff like that,” Clay said.

Some schools do things like that.  It’s just too bad for them that more high schoolers don’t read Georgia message boards, I suppose.

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33 responses to “Recruiters read comment threads.

  1. Corch negatively recruits? Say it ain’t so. I thought he was pure as the driven snow with his recruiting of the top 1% of the top 1%. Oh yeah, he wants us all to forget about his handling and enabling of Aaron Hernandez, Percy Harvin, Chris Rainey, et al. He wants us to forget how he was shamed into suspending Brandon Spikes for possibly one of the dirtiest actions ever caught on film in the pile with his eye-gouging of Knowshon. The guy can coach, but he’s one of the most detestable human beings in college sports.

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  2. JCDAWG83

    I would think the best way to counter the “underachieve” comments would be to actually win a championship of some sort.

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    • Until then, all Corch has to do is bookmark this site and say, “don’t listen to me, read JCDAWG83 to see what Georgia fans think about the program.”

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      • JCDAWG83

        Or…he could point them to all the articles written by many different sportswriters that address Georgia’s continued underachieving. Not liking the truth doesn’t change the truth.

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        • Gaskilldawg

          I suspect that Meyer believes that such comments by the very fans for whom the kids would play have more impact on the kids than some neutral source.

          If your worst enemy says you are a bad parent then I take it with a grain of salt. If your kids say you are a bad parent I am convinced.

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          • UGA85

            I don’t feel that 100% approval of all that a program does is healthy for that program. It is good to have fans that expect to win championships and don’t settle for mediocrity. To me, sensing that among a fan base would draw players that also expect championships.

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          • JCDAWG83

            How would you feel if your kid’s teacher or a neighbor who has no axe to grind with you says you’re a bad parent? That’s what sports writers are, neutral observers, not worst enemies or friends. When people with no skin in the game notice and comment that you consistently underachieve, you better take notice and do something about it. Your rivals have already noticed and are using it against you in recruiting.

            Pretending there is no problem and continuing to applaud underachieving is self destructive and comparable to the parent that refuses to believe their “little darling” can do any wrong (since you brought up the parenting example). Again, win a championship of some kind and prove the detractors wrong.

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            • SRQDawgs15

              What decade are these journalists you’re reffering to from? Certainly not the journalists of today. Sports writers are neutral observers with no axes to grind…….right!!!!!!!

              The problem is, when we win a championship (SEC or National) people like you will still be here complaining that it’s only 1 and other teams have more or that we did in despite our horrible coaches/players.

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  3. Macallanlover

    Couple of prime suspects here that rationalize how their trashing the program is actually good for us. If that isn’t the dumbest…. No one expects anyone to buy into every single decision made but to continuously drive a spike in UGA’s back (as in multiple times a day) basing it on a distorted formula and interpretations of factors is weird. You can state opinions of concern without starting a dumpster fire to be picked up FBomb, and other media vultures to throw rocks at UGA. The comments above are true, these numb-nut, talking heads and recruiters using the words of our own extremists, the 15%s, to harm the rest if UGA’s followers, team, and staff. They don’t even get it when it hits them in the face.

    We have “underachieved” under Richt when we win above our all-time average, and when the league we play in is at its all-time high? Odd logic. To them, Richt is 0-47, but UGA’s “team” is 136-0…what a distorted view of the word “team” they have. Divide and conquer is usually a tactic of your enemies, not your supporters (sort of like how much stronger the US has become since we were divided into two camps by a polarizing administration/Party.) Fortunately it ,seems the team has become more united with all these cheap shots flying around. But the anti-UGA folks love your material, as weak as it is.

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    • UGA85

      It’s a shame that personal attacks and distortions always seem to come into play. I don’t know why questioning our coach’s decisions results in such disproportionate responses and anger. I promise that I love UGA as much as most of you do. The status quo has just done nothing for me, and I am not committed to one man, one way of doing things, the past, etc. Voices for change at UGA need to be heard and not labelled as extremists.

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      • JCDAWG83

        There is a faction of fans that love the coach and are bigger fans of his than they are of the program. I’m sure they are some of the same fans that used to call in to the Goff and Donnan radio shows and start with “Coach, I just want you to know, I’m behind you and the team all the way”. The same fans are so fearful of any change at all, they refuse to acknowledge mistakes and shortcomings lest someone suggest a change in the direction of the program.

        I love the university, the Dawgs, Athens, everything about the University of Georgia, but I won’t sit silently when I see problems because I think questioning or criticizing is some sort of treason or heresy. Our record the past 10 years speaks for itself, no championship of any kind, continuous face plant games, and continuous losses to teams we should beat handily. We watch a parade of players go to the NFL with nothing to show for their years in Athens but some highlight films of great plays and fans who constantly say “if only”.

        If other coaches are pointing out our underachieving to recruits, it’s up to our head coach to do something about it. It’s not up to the fans to pretend it isn’t true. I’m sure our coaches point out other programs shortcomings when we recruit players. I know that thought is shocking to some fans who think we are pure and noble and honest and would never do such a thing, but I can assure them we do.

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      • Macallanlover

        Actually, it is the personal attacks and distortions of facts from the negatrons side that causes stronger responses. If certain posters could learn to make constructive, not destructive, comments there could be discussion and conversation. But in their anxiety to win someone, anyone, to their side they over state the case making extremist comments, and do so multiple times of day, after day, after day. Even when the subject is something else positive, someone lobs a grenade in that is off the subject.

        Do you honestly think the “middle range” of UGA fans never think CMR makes a mistake, or shouldn’t do something differently? It isn’t that anyone thinks he is perfect, it is just that we aren’t Vandy, and he isn’t Ray Goff. Things are actually pretty damned solid, and look to be getting better. Do you chain your children to their beds if they make a 92 on a test? Sure we can get better, you might could even help, but the sky isn’t falling around UGA football.

        Good Lord man, the continual attacks from the bottom takes up all the time just defending our program from the ones who have an inferiority complex. Try to make a point that isn’t always filled with fighting words and people might want to have a conversation with you. A few of the
        15%ers here are walking bar fights, surely you don’t talk like that away from a keyboard. There are 5-6 here that I doubt have any UGA friends if they rant like this every day.

        Consider this, we aren’t going to change coaches this season, can you stop attacking and get behind the team? If you want to get the man fired, make an appointment with McGarity and state your case, or write a letter. The point being made in this post is we are getting wounded more by friendly fire coming from the small minority who demand change and always bring up the bad. Try a little balance. The negative attacks just do not seem rational, they are the true extremists on the board and obsessed with their cause.

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        • JCDAWG83

          I’ll ask you a rational question; how does saying the best way to silence the coaches who use underachieving against us in recruiting is to win a championship qualify as being negative?

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          • Nate Dawg

            It’s the source, man. You’re always doom and gloom and pointing out the negatives. Always. Period. As a matter of fact, on other topics when you post I pretty much always agree with what you say…but when topics such as this come up, it’s like you’re hiding in wait and – BAM! “Hey, did you hear UGA hasn’t won a championship in 10 years?” Tough to keep reading…

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            • Macallanlover

              +1 That about my only point of disagreement with him generally as well. Unfortunately, it is the point that is raised by him several times a day. It is natural to have some valid concerns about somethings when a coach has been in one place for fifteen years, but it isn’t like the guy is doing a lousy job, or doesn’t get anything right…ever. As I said above, some balance, please. That and express it in a non-hateful manner. I know UGA fans that sit with me and we talk about changes we would like to see made, but it is done civilly and not with a bull horn. And we talk about the positive things too, imagine. We all want another title, soon, but it isn’t life or death. We finished in the Top 10 again. Damn, that is in the 90th percentile. In a tough ass league.

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          • Macallanlover

            Wasn’t replying to you specifically but there are very few coaches who can actually “out credential” what we have done (Saban and Miles). The “underachieving” is a misnomer anyway because we almost always finish above our recruiting talent level, since we are usually 3rd or 4th in the SEC recruiting rankings. Does Little Nicky under perform with the #1 class and Top 2 ranking every year? He has three SEC titles, which is damned good, but short of his talent level which is tops every year.

            The so called “expectations” are subjective and assigned by fans and media who have little to back it up. We compete with everyone, every year. Six Top 10 finishes in 14 years while playing in this league doesn’t make you a laughing stock. Five SEC East titles and two more where we were in spitting distance ain’t awful. Two SEC titles that might should have been four when we only have 12 in our entire history means you are there. You can all ache and moan but we are right there, competing and knocking on the door, it is not worth ripping down the house and starting over. I don’t even have to tell you how close we were in 2002, 2007, or 2012 (maybe 2014) to what drives so much of this silliness. I will worry when we are not in the conversation at all, or do not have the respect of every single opponent, every single year. All of those recruiters talking our of their ass sweat every moment during the week they have to play that underachieving UGA, everyone of them. R-E-S-P-E-C-T

            Do I want to win more titles? Of course, I have as high a standard of success as any of you, but when I evaluate performance I look at more than one line entry before starting again from scratch. Your specific level of commentary is just way over the top; we aren’t perfect, but we are so very far above average by any definition. And the best material those gooks get to use against us comes from many of our own fans. The boat moves a lot faster when we all row in one direction, this is the time of year to get in line with the team….the whole team.

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  4. Cojones

    Since when have any fans supported a coach solely because of his personality or other traits? They may say complimentary things that they appreciate about the coach that goes beyond the coaching, but what’s uppermost in their minds is that they like the job he does on the field. That’s why fans will defend him; they want him to continue coaching their alma mater’s players whereas other traits make him more pleasing as a person to those people since he is a much publicized ambassador for the school.

    Relegating those fan’s extra compliments to the trash dump because you have another agenda about the coach that’s on a personal basis is myopic and stubborn in the face of victories over our rivals in this game. But to blame all losses on that coach due to other circumstances is mean and vindictive and doesn’t meet the criterion of the dictionary’s definition of “fan”. A fan would sing the praises of the coach and how good he is with every victory, not churn up twisted views of past losses. A fan would note the failures that occur with a desire to see faults corrected, not lambast the head coach for corrections that players and coordinators have to undertake.

    Shortsighted people have tried to get rid of Richt and Bobo for some time, not out of their failure to coach, but because those people twisted their coaching view due to player injuries, snakebite, etc. long ago and can never let go when they have been proven wrong, because that would mean their views were incorrect. It’s sad to see some followers not give credence to the reasoning of others who like the brand of coaching that we have and who prefer to see it continue apace; whereas, they say that those fans don’t know football and are simply worshipping the coach as an individual. Why aren’t those elitists coaching in the SEC?

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  5. TMC dawg

    I have said it before, Richt has 2 years to get. It done. Sec championship and a spot in the playoff. Sorry folks but the ship has sailed on what has been going on the last few years. JC has said it right, with the staff in place the renewed commitment from the president through the butts mehere building, It is time for Richt to finally break through. Been a season ticket holder for 15 yrs and I DO HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPRESS MY OPINION

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  6. TMC dawg

    Yes senator, Some of us or let me say most of us are tired of the same old shit just different year syndrome.

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    • GaBoi 3000

      I agreeTmc, nothing personal against CMR for me. I’m just not one who chooses to place a head coach above the program. I’m tired of our annual face plants. Hopefully year 2 of Pruitt’s influence will begin to fix that problem.

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  7. Beekerdawg

    A lot of vampires are circling around…
    We will win the SEC East, the SEC, and the 4 team playoff this year.
    Even when this happens, vampires will still bitch about something.
    Dawgs will just keep marchin’ on.

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