I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.

Because we haven’t had enough to argue about lately…

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64 responses to “I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.

  1. Hogbody Spradlin

    Drop Dead, Penis Head Troll.

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  2. dudemankind

    The truth hurts.

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  3. Hound of Kerak

    Truth hurts is right. Man, that last play in the SEC CG ’12 hurts too. So close.

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  4. PTC DAWG

    Nice…we have that going for us. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good. We just haven’t both in the same year.

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  5. charlottedawg

    I’m too lazy to do the research but have we really recruited and developed the amount of talent on par with teams that have played for a national championship in the BCS & CFP era? Because from my back of the envelope calculation who fit that category that we’ve recruited better than are Auburn and Oregon, neither of which have actually won a title and former i consider a statistical outlier. (I.e.beneficiaries of some major lucky bounces ) i think there’s an ocean’s difference between our talent level and Alabama’s or Ohio state’s. A top ten class is not the same as a top five class just like having multiple first rounders in the draft is not the same as sending a bunch of players drafted in the 3rd round and lower.

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    • PTC DAWG

      When top 10 recruiting is 4th in your conference….it makes a big difference..not many other conference’s can say that.

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      • charlottedawg

        Exactly

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      • Macallanlover

        Stop it with the use of facts/logic, stop it now. All it takes a transfer to the Great Lakes Conference to satisfy all the miserable around us. Bonus is you get away from Mr. Potato Head, the one with Dumbo’s ears.

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    • charlottedawg

      Meant to type “the only teams who fit that category are” & i forgot auburn won with Cam. I still consider auburn more lucky than good.

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  6. Skeptic Dawg

    What? Richt was squandered a ton of talent over the years? The hell you say!

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    • Rocket Dawg

      Because we ALL know you Shithead Dawg could have coached multiple championships out of those teams.

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      • Skeptic Dawg

        The info above comes as a shock to you? Or are you just defending Richt on this topic? I do find your logic to be sound and irrefutable. Color me convinced.

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        • Jeff Sanchez

          Sooo, you’d take Gene Chizik over Richt?

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          • Noonan

            Don’t forget about Les Miles, who won the national “championship” the same year he lost to Kentucky and unranked Arkansas.

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            • Mayor

              Do you mean the one the ’07 UGA team got screwed out of playing for by the ESPN talking heads Lou Holtz, Jesse Palmer, Mark May and Kirk Herbstreit? That national championship? (May they all rot in Hell.)

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              • RocketDawg

                Just think if it weren’t for the “Herbstreit Doctrine” and 5 yards in 2012 we might have TWO national championship trophies. Then what would these assholes have to complain about?

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              • Skeptic Dawg

                Mayor, we have danced this dance many times in the past. Needless to say, we see 2007 differently. I think the Dawgs shot themselves in the foot not once, but twice that season while you believe the Dawgs were hosed. We can politely agree to disagree.

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  7. Macon Dawg

    Yeah but…but…but…

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  8. 3rdandGrantham

    What about Oklahoma?

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  9. Gurkha Dawg

    Big news flash. Unfortunately it is true and is the underlying reason for the discontent many dawg fans express on this and other sites.

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  10. Uglydawg

    Some of it is really just bad luck. Going into the mid-season down ten twenty scholly players hurts..You might have a great class, but keeping them enrolled, out of trouble and uninjured has been UGA’s Katrina.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      That’s not bad luck…that’s absolutely horrible roster management. Having only 67 on roster as we did in ’11-12, which was equal to USC during their severe NCAA sanctions, is pathetic and shows a clear lack of oversight.

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      • and yet with those pitiful few we came five yards, five seconds short of glory…

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        • 3rdandGrantham

          What’s your point?

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        • charlottedawg

          Alabama was the better team that night. The reason the game came down to five yards was due to the fact that we played above our talent level. Credit the coaching staff for getting the team ready togo toe to toe with the biggest baddest team in the nation but the talent and depth favored Bama and it wasn’t even close. They had multiple first rounders on that team. We had one.

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          • 3rdandGrantham

            And if we were actually playing with a full deck of 85, perhaps our D wouldn’t have been totally gassed on the second half, and we would still be basking in our ’12 MNC as we speak.

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            • Reservoir Dawg

              What CD said. Credit the coach(es) for making do. I understand where you’re coming from on recruiting/retention failures but the ’12 season was a whole lot with a little bit.

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              • 3rdandGrantham

                I guess I could give them credit, but it also was their fault for severely handcuffing us in the first place. For example, I’m in sales. If I’m supposed to have (or can have) 50 accounts in my pipeline at all times (and all the other sales executives do), yet I only have 32 due to very poor planning.

                But, I ended up closing a few deals at the very end while losing others to finish respectively overall. Should I be ultimately be applauded for my last minute efforts with no attention paid to the fact that I missed out on 18 other opportunities that I failed to take on? I guarantee you most companies wouldn’t, and would be astonished that you were working with a limited deck to begin with.

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              • charlottedawg

                To echo 3&G you don’t get credit and should get blame for self imposed handicaps. It’s the coaches responsibility to make sure the roster has 85 sec caliber football players. The narrative isn’t that Richt makes do with less our vice versa the true narrative is thatRichthasn’t been rerecruiting at a high enough level. that’s a MAJOR reason for or lack of hardware the last 9 years.

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                • And yet we’re consistently highly rated in recruiting with little to show for it to paraphrase the Ol’ Ball Sac. And there we were, warts and all, 5 yards shy.

                  I get that there are lots of moving parts, some of which appear to have been neglected. Remember, too, that ’11-’12 marked the end of the Adams era. Seems like the shackles have been broken since then. This year is the litmus test for the New Georgia Way™.

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        • Silver Biscuits

          … and Charlie Brown comes up just a few inches from kicking the football from Lucy’s hold

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  11. Greg

    My answer to that is, we are finishing just about the way we recruit in that time period. Someone with an agenda imo/

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  12. Argondawg

    Facts are facts. We have not performed as well on the field as we have on the recruiting trail. There are a myriad of reasons for that but what difference does it matter. I am not for changing our head coach or anything like that. Sometimes the truth is a MF’er.

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  13. So when we have these results (i.e. top ten recruiting and talent getting promoted to the pro game) the SOLUTION is to get a new Coach? Are the 15%ERS certain that our new and improved Coach will keep all things the same but he’ll motivate these children soooo much better that we (UGA) will be guaranteed a championship. Hope and Change baby…Hope and Change.This is why most of us Richt lovers are not beating up the program. We understand that when the program is this far out in the probability distribution (towards the good to great end of the spectrum) that the odds are very good that significant change will result in regression towards the mean not improvement. Irrational and ill-conceived change for change’s sake is significantly more likely to produce worse results than improvement . I hear Phil Fulmer is still available…I’m just sayin.

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    • JCDAWG83

      Maybe we can get the top ten recruiting and NFL player production trophy to put in BM? We could put it in the case with the “5 yards away from a national championship” and “Highest 3 loss team in the Sagarin rankings” trophies. Who cares about actual championships? We’re almost great!

      Based on your argument, we should have never fired Donnan. He had won 5 bowl games in a row and had a 40-20 record over his 5 year tenure. He was a very good recruiter (Richt won his first SEC championship with Donnan’s players) and we were close to winning the SEC East a couple of years under him. Richt was a complete unknown with no head coaching experience. Did you think we had made a huge mistake then?

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      • Mayor

        Honestly, Donnan was the guy who turned things around at Georgia. UGA had fallen to being about a .500 team under Goff. Donnan returned the Dawgs to respectability, going 10-2 his second year. He got fired for reasons other than just wins and losses. If he had never been fired and was still HC the Dawgs would have won about the same number of games, about the same number of SEC East titles and about the same number of SEC Championships as they have under CMR, whose winning percentage is almost exactly the same as Donnan’s for the last 4 years Donnan was HC.

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    • TXBaller

      Alabama could have continues with Shula’s mediocrity but nutted up…..Just Sayin

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  14. But the century is not over yet????????? LOL.

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  15. Call me whatever but I don’t base my happiness with the coach or program on whether or not we’ve won a title. I’d love to have Alabama’s success but I wouldn’t trade what we’ve done with Auburn’s one title surround by bad football.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      I would. AU has only had two bad seasons in recent years, with their record in most years similar ours. Yet they have a MNC and narrowly lost another MNC to FSU, in which an onside kick basically was their undoing. Meanwhile, we haven’t won a MNC since the Carter Administration.

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      • JCDAWG83

        I wouldn’t trade culture with Auburn, but I think I’d trade on field results.

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        • 3rdandGrantham

          Exactly. 100% agree. I’d rather UGA turn into a 6-6 type program than ever resemble AU.

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          • Mayor

            Georgia WAS a 6-6 program–for several years in a row. Remember Ray Goff? How much did you like it then, eh? Don’t be making sweeping statements like that when you know you don’t really mean it.

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    • Macon Dawg

      Auburn has won 2 conference championships and 1 national championship in the last 5 years. We’ve won squat.

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  16. JCDAWG83

    How many teams fit into top ten recruiting classes AND top ten NFL draft status? I’m thinking it’s a pretty small group.

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  17. Dog in Fla

    @Noonan August 21, 2015 at 2:02 PM
    “Don’t forget about Les Miles”

    His had makes America great again…

    “As we drove in, there was a big thong of people…”

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  18. NCDAWG

    That means we’re due right?

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  19. kckd

    Of those who have won, they all hit the top 5 in recruiting at least twice in the four years leading up to their title with the exception of Auburn. We haven’t done that either.

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