“We’ll start playing ball that way and see how it goes.”

If you don’t think there’s a sense of relief the coaches have about picking a starter, note that Richt drily managed to crack a couple of jokes in the first minute of yesterday’s presser announcing the call for Lambert.  And that gets back to my first reaction to the decision – Richt and Schottenheimer, more than anything else, wanted to get a starter in place before the opening game.  (A good move, in my humble opinion.)

That may be the big picture observation I have, but here are a few smaller ones.

  • If picking Lambert is a surprise, more than anything that’s because, as I’ve said before, it cuts against the grain of how Georgia’s named starting quarterbacks under Richt’s tenure.  But if, as I suspect, this was Schottenheimer’s call in the end, what’s not surprising is that he was given the choice to make it, as Richt has always given his coordinators pretty wide latitude.  After all, this is part of what they’re paying the guy the big bucks for.
  • Feel free to minimize Lambert’s statistical story from last season, if that makes you more comfortable.  But, as Tyler highlights in this post, it’s a little concerning to see how anemic his passing game was.  I’ll be the first to concede that some of it falls on the coaching and talent level at Virginia, both of which are short of what Lambert’s walked into in Athens.  However, some of it falls on Lambert.  How quickly old habits can be changed is something to keep an eye on.
  • Ivan Maisel tries an analogy:  “Major League Baseball is full pitchers who languished with one team before blossoming with a fresh start elsewhere. Georgia announced Monday that its starting quarterback for the opener is graduate transfer Greyson Lambert, the Virginia starter a year ago who lost that job in the Cavaliers’ spring practice. Dawgs coach Mark Richt’s endorsement of Lambert sounded tepid. “There may be others that get in the game,” Richt said, “but he’s the starter.” Maybe Lambert is college football’s R.A. Dickey, who bounced through five organizations in 16 seasons before he won the 2012 Cy Young Award with the Mets.”  Maybe.  Or maybe he’s not.
  • That being said, if Lambert proves himself to be a functional SEC quarterback this season, as much good as that would say about his abilities and his coaching, it would probably say even more about the program he left, which, if you’ll recall, demoted him from the starting position there.  David Wunderlich“That the best guy for the job now is the guy who lost the Virginia quarterback battle is a little troubling, but at the same time, the UVa staff might all get fired while UGA’s present head coach has been cranking out good to great quarterbacks for 25 years.”
  • I wonder how those of you who object to the graduate transfer rule are coping with this decision.  From my selfish standpoint, it’s a perfect example of how the rule should work –  a kid succeeds academically and is rewarded for his efforts with the choice of being able to leave a program that no longer wanted him for one that has a place for him.  Your mileage may vary, of course.
  • I also wonder if the message we’re missing here is that Richt is comfortable enough about another area of the team that he feels he can afford to place the offense in Lambert’s hands.  And by that, I’m not referring to the running backs.  I’m thinking about Jeremy Pruitt’s defense. From a game management standpoint, maybe we’re about to see the clock turned back to the 2002-4 era.  (In which case, Marshall Morgan better be ready.)
  • Richt is still hedging his bets on the call, I think.  (“There may be other or others get in the game but right now the thing that I know is he’ll start the game,” Richt said.)  Grayson may not have as much experience at Georgia as Bauta or Ramsey, but one area where he definitely has experience the other two don’t is having coaches looking over his shoulder.  That was his story in Charlottesville all season.  That’s not a snarky observation on my part; it may very well contribute to a mental makeup that Richt and Schottenheimer find appealing right now.

We’re all chanting the mantra that we trust the coaches to make the right call here, but that begs the question that is at the heart of the matter.  Is the decision based on Lambert’s response to better coaching and surrounding conditions, or is he merely the best choice in a less than optimal setting?  We’d all prefer for this decision to be about good coaching rather than bad options, but there’s simply no way to tell yet.

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82 responses to ““We’ll start playing ball that way and see how it goes.”

  1. Quincy's Nose

    The 2 guys he beat out couldn’t beat out Hutson Mason last year. That makes me feel good about this decision.

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    • That makes me somewhat depressed about the state of QBs. Eason can’t get here fast enough.

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      • The other Doug

        I’m with ya. Lambert might be good or bad, but I believe the coaches picked the best option.

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        • I could sense (at least I think) the coaches quite desperation in wanting to see the Bauta or Ramsey to take a hold of the starting spot. Their seeming hesitancy to award the position to a guy who’s only been on campus for a few weeks tells us that practice performance outweighs tenure. Lambert is the best option because he has performed the best. Good luck to him. I’ll be rooting him on and would rather not see a QB controversy from here on out. I expect Lambert to solidify his hold on the spot in the first few games and to be ready for South Carolina. That’s about as close to a prediction I’ll make.

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          • Cojones

            That’s the most sane post I’ve seen today. Why in hell are we hashing over old shit that we already knew, but now some want to post incessantly like it’s a new discovery? This is an upper time for this team and we don’t need to crush someone because he is turning his story around. He won the starting position over two other competent QBs. I imagine he and his family and friends are very happy to see this happen. We should be as well.

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            • Why in hell are we hashing over old shit that we already knew, but now some want to post incessantly like it’s a new discovery?

              Because it’s a fan blog. It’s what fans do.

              If it’s not your thing, skip past it. That would be the sane choice, no? 😉

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      • JCDAWG83

        I’m not quite ready to anoint Eason as savior yet. I think I’ll let him get on campus and compete in practice before I assume he is the starter next season.

        We don’t need a Hesiman qb, we need a qb who won’t lose the game for us. Obviously, my fear with Lambert is we’re getting a qb who can and has lost games for his team. He didn’t lose the starting job at Virginia because he was so good he was making the other qbs feel bad and want to transfer.

        I’m sure Lambert, and whoever else plays for that matter, will look good against ULM. Vandy will give us a better idea of what we have.

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        • PTC DAWG

          I am not sure, I think Vandy may be the second worst team on our schedule. We shall see. Playing them on the road may make the difference between them and La Monroe.

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          • JCDAWG83

            My thought is; they at least have D1 level athletes and are in the SEC. I think they lack quality depth but their first team is legit competition if not a scary opponent. A night game on the road will be a factor too. We shouldn’t have to worry about losing the game, but we should get a little better idea of what we have in Lambert.

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            • What night game? We’re kicking off against Vandy at 2:30 Central time.

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            • In all seriousness though – ULM is only slightly worse than Vandy per Bill C’s advanced stats review of all 128 teams.

              TIER 7: 😦
              94. Vanderbilt
              95. San Jose State
              96. Tulsa
              97. Ball State
              98. Wake Forest
              99. Syracuse
              100. Texas State
              101. Nevada
              102. Florida Atlantic
              103. Fresno State
              104. UL-Monroe

              I don’t think we’re going to know much about anything until our QB’s have to take on South Carolina.

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              • Mayor

                But the players all get 2 weeks of prep under game week conditions and also get to play 2 real games against 2 real adversaries to work out the kinks. That is the way God intended a championship caliber football team to start a season. If you go back and look at the masterful schedules done by Joel Eaves you will see much the same. A soft season opener in Athens followed by either a slightly harder OOC game or a conference opening game–almost always against UK or Vandy and almost always in Athens.

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    • I do think “Richt’s loyalty” factored into that decision in some way. Mason had toyed around with transferring, maybe more than one, and I think Richt had perhaps made him a promise to get the nod after Murray’s departure. We saw something similar with JTIII. But unlike the changing of horses in midstream when the JTIII experiment failed, neither could unseat Mason. So to that end, I think there is some solace there, at least until about 12:15 Saturday.

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      • Richts loyalty may of had a say in the decision for Mason, but I honestly think Mason was the guy. I remember Richt being disappointed it wasn’t a close race for the starter last year. In hindsight, maybe this was our first red flag for Ramsey and Bauta.

        I think Richt’s loyalty, like other evolving aspects of his coaching approach, has shifted. If loyalty was a primary concern in this decision, I think he would of leaned toward Bauta in a tight race.

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    • Here’s my take, for what it’s worth. Those that are whining about the selection of Lambert over Ramsey are the same ones that were bit**ing about how Ramsey played in the bowl game when Mason got hurt.
      Some people complain about everything…for the sake of …complaining.
      Listen, Ramsey had spring practice and the G-Day game to seperate himself from Bauta and take the wheel of this machine and…didn’t. Since then, he’s had half the summer to better learn the new playbook and almost the entire fall camp to wrestle the job away from Bauta and Lambert, a new guy who has been on campus barely a month before the start of fall camp, and…couldn’t. Lambert may get better and actually begin to thrive in our offense, who knows? But if he takes decent care of the ball and completes a few passes down field, enough to keep defenses from pinning their ears back and coming at us in a full-on assault, our running game and a potentially much-improved defense should help us win a bunch of games this year. If Ramsey’s HS coach is accurate in his assessment of Ramsey’s projected improvement with more playing time, then, if Lambert struggles like some fear, then Ramsey will get the opportunity…once again… to grab the starting spot and run with it. However, if Lambert surprises and turns into a stud , then we’ll probably never know. I’m for whoever plays the best, period. Good QB play will be necessary for us to win the SEC this year. Great QB play is just icing on our collective birthday cakes. With Chubb & Associates on the front line and in the backfield, I’ll settle for good.

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  2. TennesseeDawg

    I think CMR was underwhelmed by Ramsey’s off the field preparation. Lambert is a veteran and probably brings a comfort factor. That being said, I don’t think Lambert truly nails down the job until after the SC game in week 3

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  3. If these three had been stinking it up all preseason the team would know that. We wouldn’t, but the players would. If that were the truth would they handle things the way they have? Wouldn’t they “poor mouth” the whole thing to reduce fan expectations and not to unsettle the rest of the roster? It seems to me that we should all expect the qbs to play well Saturday based on what we’re being told. We could all be watching with a cringed look too if we were given that expectation. In any event, until I see otherwise I’m going to assume we can win with any of these three and that this was a tough decision among three capable candidates.

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  4. Scorpio Jones, III

    “We’d all prefer for this decision to be about good coaching rather than bad options, but there’s simply no way to tell yet.”

    Well said, Boss, one of your best observations, especially if you include the coaching staff in the “we”.

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  5. We’re all chanting the mantra that we trust the coaches to make the right call here, but that begs the question that is at the heart of the matter. Is the decision based on Lambert’s response to better coaching and surrounding conditions, or is he merely the best choice in a less than optimal setting? We’d all prefer for this decision to be about good coaching rather than bad options, but there’s simply no way to tell yet.

    Man, you couldn’t have hit the nail any more squarely on the head for what’s going through my mind. I see people’s point when they say he’s probably getting a level of coaching now that he’s never had. And yet, my mind says “But how much difference can that make over the course of a few short weeks?” We’re about to find out!

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  6. hassan

    Just spot the damn ball and let’s get after it. Go Dawgs!

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  7. What fresh Hell is this?

    It occurs to me that the safe choice here, in terms of fan and pundit reaction, would have been to start Ramsey. If the competition is truly as close as Richt/Schottenheimer say it is I believe they would have started Ramsey, which makes me think Ramsey has a long way to go. Granted it’s not a huge risk to start Lambert against La Monroe…how bad could he look in this game? I wonder if they make the same choice if we were starting out vs Clemson.
    Hopefully Ramsey’s HS coach is correct when he says he shines more during games than in practice. The only other thought that provides some comfort here is the possibility that Richt/Schottenheimer are trying to light one final fire under Ramsey’s ass by starting Lambert against the opening cupcake.

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  8. @gatriguy

    2 quick points: 1) if we want to be upset with anyone about the QB situation, it should be with Christian LeMay. It should be his turn now, but he was as big and complete a bust as Richt has had at any position, much less at QB, and 2) my feeling is that Ramsey really, really, really likes being in college. I’ve heard coaches and teammates gush over how hard Bauta and Lambert worked and prepared. Never heard a whisper of that about Ramsey. I think Richt finally feels comfortable enough with his defense to get back to the type of offense and game management he had his first 5 years on the job. If that’s the case, the QB with Greene’s maturity (Lambert) might be the better option than the one with Stafford’s arm (Ramsey).

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    • I’m with you from the perspective of there perhaps being a shift in the overall gameplan focus. These past few seasons the Dawgs have been operating an offensive three-ring circus with sporadic contributions from the defense. But now, I believe, the D can do more heavy lifting.

      If this is the case, a Lambert-Greene style QB may be just the steady hand needed for the tiller of the SS Chubb.

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  9. WF Dawg

    R.A. Dickey has had only one great year, amidst a lot of mediocre-to-bad years, but that year he was one of the top pitchers in baseball. I’ll take one great year like that out of Lambert.

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  10. PTC DAWG

    UGA recruited Lambert out of HS, not sure why anyone is surprised that he can start at UGA after graduating in 3 years from Virginia.

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  11. tludlam

    He’s our guy now. Let’s get behind him. Looking at UVa film, he looks like a slightly lighter version of Tebow with a better arm. That is, he can run and looks hard to bring down. I’m excited. Remember this is a team game. I think he got plenty talent to shine in our system and supporting cast. You don’t need an all world QB to have success.

    Matthew Stafford: #1 overall pick, pro-bowler, 0 SEC East titles. 27-9 as starter (.750 winning pct), 3 losses after being preseason #1.

    David Greene: Journeyman NFL backup, 2 SEC East titles, 1 SEC title, 42-10 as starter (.808 winning pct; 10.5 wins per year, in 11-game regular seasons).

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  12. piper

    That 7 quarterbacks have left UVA in the past four years is all I need to know about their situation there.

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  13. Russ

    Personally, I think Richt can put together a game plan that any of the three quarterbacks can win with, conservative ball-control with running and short passes to the TEs. Long shots when they can’t hurt you, coupled with a very good defense.

    The problem I see is that as soon as Lambert throws an INT, the crowd will be all over him. Given his mediocre record at UVA, the crowd here won’t have much sympathy for him if things go south. Of course, we’re going to bitch about whoever Richt puts out there.

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  14. doofusdawg

    This is clearly Schotty’s decision and it clearly goes against the grain of cmr’s loyalties and penchant for seniority. Much like what Pruitt did to the defense I hope the offense gets the same results. My fear is that cbs is more like cmr than cjp.

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  15. Spence

    Cory Phillips started over Greene in 2001.

    JT3 started over Stafford in 2006.

    Richt isn’t afraid to change course later for the more gifted guy. But at the start of the season, he’s shown he’s willing to go with more experience. Not calling Ramsey Greene or Staff, but it’s worth some perspective.

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  16. Dog in Fla

    “Maybe Lambert is college football’s R.A. Dickey,”

    When asked about the anatomy of a knuckleball,

    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-YdI9AIsL.SX258_BO1,204,203,200.jpg

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  17. AusDawg85

    If Lambert lights it up (which is less throwing and more about making all the right decisions and moving the O downfield efficiently) then he wins the job, but expect to see plenty of Ramsey and would not be stunned if we have a different starter for Vandy.

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  18. DawgPhan

    when trying to predict the future is there an optimal setting?

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  19. CannonDawg

    Good summation, Senator. And here’s hoping the Ivan Maisel analogy is spot on. But if it’s not, then hopefully Ramsey will emerge from the shadows much like Kurt Warner did when he finally got his chance.

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  20. Will Trane

    Why did we not recruit the starter at UVA. Apparently he is head and shoulders above the 3.
    Saw Ramsey at high school level. He is a gamer. Share the view of AusDawg85.
    At least the SID and the news media have some copy to work with between now and kickoff.
    Always like CMR’s attribute of being uncertain about certain. We can all feel comfortable about the QB play until the first turnover.

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    • Scorpio Jones, III

      Will…about that “Ramsey being a gamer” stuff…is that not part of Ramsey’s current problem? I have seen him twice in games and not been overwhelmed. Maybe Ramsey could overpower his high school competition with superior arm and athletic ability, maybe that’s caught up with him. Joe Montana was a gamer…but he worked his ass off, too.

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    • tludlam

      Will, I recognize your sarcasm, but Matt Johns (UVa starter) would have to sit out a year. Lambert graduated so he doesn’t.

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  21. charlottedawg

    This choice is the least worst out of 3 crappy options for Richt. If Ramsey and Faton were both playing really well, we would have never taken a guy who lost his job at Uva. I’m sure he’s a great kid but Lambert sucked at Virginia and he’s gonna suck here. I trust, no scratch that, know that Richt made his decision based on which qb gives us the best chance to win, the fact that it’s Lambert is a very very bad sign.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      I have five words for you: Mike London and Steve Fairchild.

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    • Mayor

      Has it occurred to anyone that Lambert lost his job at UVa because the UVa HC and OC are idiots soon to be fired because they are lousy football coaches? Have any of you guys reading this blog ever had a boss who was a buffoon? I have and you can be damn good at your job and the boss screws things up and blames you. Seen it a bunch.

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  22. Scott W.

    Short yardage stats don’t bother me, he’ll just be handing the ball to Chubb in those situations anyway.

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  23. FtWorthDawg

    I worry about how this decision affects the rest of the team? He has less time with the team than a lot of the freshmen on the roster. Regardless of the meme we hear with the press there has to be some misgivings from players, offensive especially. Behind the scenes where do those loyalties lie? We may never know until we see our schedule come January 2016.

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  24. UGA85

    I refuse to believe that bad quarterback play is going to limit this team. So many positive changes have occurred this off-season, so much talent and experience is in place, and so many of our rivals have much greater areas of concern than we do. Our team and coaching staff should have more than enough experience, talent, and resources available to help our QB to an SEC title.

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  25. The Bruce

    Didn’t Nate Hybl lose the starting job at Georgia then go on to win a National Championship at Oklahoma?

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  26. DugLite

    Just think……if the game Sat isn’t a sell out we can blame CMR.

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  27. blands

    Fact: We hired a below average NFL coordinator to manage our offense.

    Fact: We’ve selected a below average ACC quarterback to direct our offense.

    Fantasy: Our offense will be just as good as last year.

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  28. addr

    The decision is surprising given Richt’s past tendencies, but not so surprising given everything else. Ramsey’s perceived advantages were familiarity with Bobo’s system and natural ability, the former of which was diminished with the regime change. By all accounts Lambert has similar natural ability plus starting experience, and perhaps maybe a bit more maturity?

    IMHO, this team needs a consistent QB more than anything else, more Mason than Stafford if you will. As Richt said to Greene, more quarterbacks lose games for their team than win them, and that seems to ring true for this decision. If Lambert can have the type of consistency Mason had last year, he will be a resounding success.

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    • FtWorthDawg

      Agree ADDR. Here is one of my major concerns. Our first two games are merely a step above a glorified scrimmage. (knocking on wood) Which means we will be measuring the QB performance much the same way we have the 3 scrimmages we have been through. Once SC hits, if this is not hashed out we will be slammed. Not to mention what happens when the Tide comes to town.

      I re-watched last years bowl game and remembered asking myself at times where Brice was going with the ball. It seems that maybe there hasn’t been enough progression since that game to give Brice the nod. I need to file this in my memory banks for when Lambert throws that first interception.

      All in all I am a Coach Richt guy and have to trust his decision. And either way I’ll be yelling for our Dawgs come Saturday no matter who is behind center. The same way I did when Joe T was there. GO DAWGS!

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  29. 69Dawg

    Ok let’s all bring the torches Saturday and we can burn Lambert in Effigy, a small town SW of Athens. We get to see almost none of practice but we all know who’s going to be great or bad. To the guys who think we should win every game, they must have had a miserable football life for the last 35 years. We’re Georgia we know how to suffer, let the games begin.

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    • UGA85

      I personally don’t know any UGA fan who expects us to be undefeated. As you say, those tendencies have been beaten out of us. But I do think it is reasonable to expect to win an SEC championship, given our level of talent and experience this year.

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  30. As an observer only, my guess the decision was based on consistently consistent (Lambert), in short more predictable for OC to decide his calls game time vs consistently inconsistent (Ramsey and Bauta) and therefore much harder for a coach to game plan on. The above has nothing on whether any of them can throw interceptions or long throws.

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