Head-to-head

If there’s anyone out there who’s qualified to make Alabama-Georgia comparisons, it’s Louisiana-Monroe, the team that’s played both programs.

Safety Tre’ Hunter and receiver Ajalen Holley were concise when scouting both SEC teams’ strengths.

“Alabama is a little bit more versatile, as in the pass game is outside of the box,” Hunter said of the Tide offense. “Georgia is light inside of the box. Alabama can spread you out. Playing in space is always hard. For skilled guys and linemen, playing in space is always hard. There is a bit more to think about than gearing up for box plays.”

Of Georgia’s 1,965 total yards, 52.4 percent have come in the running game. The majority of Alabama’s 1,840 total yards have come through the air. That ratio is 60:40 through four games. Hunter was impressed with Georgia’s between-the-tackles approach led by Nick Chubb’s 71 carries, 599 yards (8.4 average) and six touchdowns.

“They’re awesome,” Hunter said. “That’s what they do. They’re both pretty accustomed to what they know how to do.”

Holley took a deep breath when asked to compare the defenses of Alabama and Georgia. Answers don’t get more specific.

“Alabama’s defense is a lot bigger,” he said. “Georgia’s defense is a lot faster. That’s as good as I can give you right there.”

And how does that translate on the field?

“When it comes to running the ball, I feel like we could be on the edge a little better against Alabama,” Holley said. “When it comes to Georgia, we couldn’t, because they’re a faster outside defense. When it comes to getting downhill, I feel like Alabama is better at filling the gap than Georgia is, because they’re bigger. Their defensive line can fill gaps better than Georgia. That’s from my perspective.”

That ‘Bama run/pass ratio is perhaps the most interesting thing there.  Does Junior stick with what he’s been doing, or does he try to test the Georgia defensive front by pounding Derrick Henry more?

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  1. JT (the other one)

    What ULM didn’t see was many outside runs and MM26 ability to stretch the field as well as GL’s throwing ability. So they have no point of reference for this. Also we platooned pretty heavily once that game was in hand. So they got a mouthful of second, third and anyone else on the sidelines as it was the first game.

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    • To me tho, the defensive comparisons are more of interest anyway. Saban has altered his recruiting strategy a bit the last couple of years but our type of offense is right in the wheelhouse of what Saban historically has recruited to stop, and what Saban/Smart are most comfortable scheming against. Our OL is gonna have a whale of a task.

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      • Macallanlover

        That is where I am too. No genius insight is needed to know that the OL on each side where determine this game. If Lambert has time to throw, we can open up running lanes and we will move the ball consistently, if not they will be able to jam the middle ans limit our run game enough to win the game. If Bama’s OL is able to move us back and allow Henry to get to our LBs with a full head of steam it will be the 2012 SECCG twin to our rush defense’s frustration.

        I really think we have more offensive weapons than Bama can deal with if we deploy them effectively and we execute the plays. I don’t think we should begin trying to establish the power run game, prefer we follow a SC like start. This Bama team is not as good as the 2012 team on either offense or defense, this UGA team may be better overall.

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    • Dave

      This…..ask SC about our offense and their answer is likely different. Plus, I do like having a faster defense. We will see if our big men can hold the middle.

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      • Uglydawg

        Dave..the point is that ULM has faced both teams. SC has no idea what it’s like to play Bama.
        Keep in mind that ULM saw a Bama team with several games..and a very tough game against Mississippi, under their belt.
        They saw a raw and unformed Georgia team breaking in a new QB.
        So their comparion isn’t really that accurate. If ULM had played Georgia this last weekene, they would likely have a totally different perspective.

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        • Mayor

          I’m not sure ULM really played “both teams,” Ug. Schotty has admitted that he was holding back on O in the ULM game. The ULM players’ observations about the respective teams’ Ds is probably right on the money though.

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  2. AthensHomerDawg

    Bama Bulk vs Dawg Speed. So …’Bama is gonna pound the rock against our undersized linemen with that big ole running back.
    I just had a flashback. Outback Bowl- vs those guys from the cheese state. Seems they had a big lineman and a Heisman hopeful running back that they were gonna pound us with. I enjoyed that game.

    Wonder how many ints Lamer’s qb throws on Saturday?

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    • Thats a nice place to go rather than the second half of the SEC championship game when our D line was gassed and I was praying for Bama to ease up on us and pass the ball. Hope we have enough stamina this weekend. I think Bama is going to try to man up and smash it up the middle. Better be ready.

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      • Chadwick

        I am at the place where I think the guys coaching defense have a lot more answers than the 2012 group. I think this is going to be one hell of a game.

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      • Russ

        Main difference between now and 2nd half of SECCG is that we have substitutes now and use them. Grantham had 4 guys and ran them into the dirt, not just that game but all season.

        I’m happy with our depth and think it will help slow down Bama.

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        • Mayor

          Grantham–what an idiot. I’m sure glad he’s gone.

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          • Macallanlover

            And Garner. Wonder how long that Boom/Garner combo will last? In fact, how long will Boom last on his own? I am sure if he stays Rodney may be looking around again, so much for the homecoming.

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      • Yes I think building depth at D line has been a point of emphasis the last few years. I THINK we are there. We got gashed by UF last year, but I am chalking that up to Floyd’s shoulder troubles and lack of depth at the time.

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      • Biggus Rickus

        The defense didn’t run out of gas. Alabama just realized they could run the ball whenever they wanted and did so. They tried to throw the ball too much until they were down 21-10.

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  3. TennesseeDawg

    I have absolutely no idea what to make of this game.

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  4. The ULM kid has got a good analysis, but his team saw very vanilla offense and defense in that first game. I do love hearing the talk of Georgia’s speed on defense, but I do hope we’ve got the ass to keep Derrick Henry in check.

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    • AthensHomerDawg

      And to think Henry almost came to Georgia.
      Derrick Dawg always sounded better than Derrick Bubber…imho. 😉

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      • Cojones

        Most people spell that “Bubba”, not “Bubber”. Where did you get that spelling?

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        • 83dawg

          I can’t speak for AHD, but my first guess would be as in ‘Bubber’s Bait Shop’, an Athens tradition.

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          • bad byron

            Never bought any bait from Bubber, but acquired a few cold beers from him. And on Sundays, a friend knew Bubber well enough that we could stop by his house for emergency provisions.

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            • 83dawg

              Was he still driving that beer truck back and forth to work then?

              When I was about to go to UGA freshman year, my dad told me that if i was ever in a minor jam, and didn’t want to involve parents, to go see Bubber and let him know who my dad was and that he told me to see him.

              😎

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              • bad byron

                Don’t remember that, which really is no surprise. And Bubber was more expensive than the other stores, so we also shopped at Firehouse, particularly for all our keg needs. The owner Dennis would usually materialize at the party where the keg was located. This was late 70’s.

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        • Uglydawg

          From a land where Linda is Linder, and mama is mommer, and you throw your empties out the winder, and smoke goes up the chimley.
          I could name a few places right here in the Peach State. 🙂

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        • Great answers from 83+Ugly Dawg. Actually, it was my father in law that gave Alabama fans that name (Bubber). I didn’t think much about it then but somehow it stuck with our tailgate team. Older and wiser now and not graced with the presence either my dad or my father in law, sad to say. We grow older… nothing remains the same.
          Georgia vs Alabama… this was the year that Hines Ward had to play qb and every other position on the team . It was the year after we fought the Bubbers on their own field to a one point loss. ;-(
          The next year they erased all doubt. 31-0. Tide Rolls. We were tailgating in the parking lot across from Armstrong and Dobbs. Tossing the football, waiting for some burgers listening to the radio. A group of Alabama fans dropped in and shared our tailgate. When it was over and we were getting ready to head toward the tracks and back stadium entrance … we noticed half our glass mugs were missing and so was a box of chicken.
          Well then. All we heard from my father in law was. Never mind…damn Bubbers! It’s been “Bubbers” ever since. My father in law was a Tech man. His son graduated there. He once told my wife (his daughter) he never could enjoy any of the victories by Tech had over the Dawgs … because it upset AHD (not my real name) so much. Fine man.

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          • Uglydawg

            Don’t you mean “Alabamer”?

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          • dawgtired

            Enjoyed the story AHD. Also, surprised to hear that AthensHomerDawg is not your real name. 😉 Are we supposed to use aliases here?

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          • Cojones

            Thanks for all the replies. My nickname is “Bubber” having had a brother that was 1yr, 9 mos older. Thanked him for the nickname and told him if they hadn’t celebrated his living one yr so much, I may have gone through life w/o that nickname. At least they could have waited until he could talk plainly before conceiving me.

            My point is, the nickname isn’t “Bubba”. We weren’t ignorant, you know.

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  5. ASEF

    Lanes got some Young Spurrier in him: he’ll force the passing game at times. It’s driving Bama fans crazy.

    Georgia’s offense is simply executing better. It’s that simple.

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  6. Uglydawg

    That’s thekey. Keeping DH in check..because if we can’t then our defense has all of the problems other defenses have had against our O.
    Pound it and play fake it…it gets old fast…esp in a hurry-up.
    Remember all the crazy D formations CJP put out there against Southern?
    He’s going to have somebody fast on DH every play, and it won’t always be the same guy and it won’t come from the same place.
    Georgia will work on getting Sony outside. With Chub, Sony and KM, it may be possible to wear down those giants that Alabama has on the front.and I believe their D backs are on the small side..so if when one of those Georgia backs does get into the secondary, they have a chance to break some tackles. Of course, Derrick Henry is not fun to tackle when he gets a full head of steam, either. That’s why Georgia must converge, even with the threat of a play fake looming…and gamble a good bit stunting.
    It’s a heck of a match-up.

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  7. 3rdandGrantham

    Not exactly a shock, but Bama fans sure seem confident. They feel that we match up horribly against them, as opposed to some of the spread type O’s they’ve faced previously. The ongoing argument on BOL is what poll position will they be sitting at on Sunday after getting the W.

    I too have no idea what to expect, mainly because Lambert is till an unproven commodity at this point. If Lambert plays well, I think we win by 7+; if not, well…I don’t even want to go there. I do think that we’ll have trouble running the ball against them, thus we must be able to pass well and get guys like Michel out in space to do their thing. Speaking of Michel, if we win, I predict he’ll be player of the game, as Bama sure seems hellbent on slowing down Chubb.

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    • charlottedawg

      I think we need Lambert to have a good game considering how many yards Bama has surrendered through the air. Also he’s been fortunate in that he’s had a ton of time to throw , what happens when he faces pressure?

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      • Cojones

        He has faced much pressure and didn’t wither or give up according to Richt. In Greyson we trust because he already has indelibly imprinted his passing on Kirby who will plan for it.

        If he doesn’t complete a pass, Bama can’t afford to,gamble and load the box for fear he suddenly may get hot. Lambert doesn’t have to do anything but threaten in order for the game plan to work.

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    • Chadwick

      I’m sure that group have thought the same thing every game week for the last five years. I have no idea who will win, but all that ‘Bama confidence is going to evaporate at 3:30. They’re in store for a back alley brawl with this UGA team.

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      • Otto

        The other thing I would like to see is more of Marshal, he is more physical than ever and fresh legs late (not that Chubb ever seems to tire) could be a great advantage.

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        • Chadwick

          I’d like to see Marshall, but don’t care if he plays significantly or not. I have a ton of crepe spect for him, but he’s not the caliber of Chubb and Michel. Priority #1 is going to be ball security for everyone toting the rock.

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        • Uglydawg

          I agree, Otto..He may get a lot more use as the season progresses..every running back is subject to injuries and what a luxury to have him as a backup to our dynamic duo. Blessings abound! Before this season is over, Keith will play an important part in what this team accomplishes.

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    • Otto

      The chess match of the game is how does Schott call the game to prevent 7+ in the box. If he can do that UGA wins. Michel and/or the TEs/H-back maybe the key. Schott has had Michel and Chubb on the field at the same time. The pass must free up Chubb rather than the other way around.

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    • DawgPhan

      Lambert is 44/47 for 592 yards and 5 TD with no INTs since half time @ Vandy.

      I think it is safe to say that he knows how to play the position.

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      • 3rdandGrantham

        Not trying to sound like one of those trolls that have been around lately but, Lambert hasn’t exactly faced an elite, talent laden D either. Heck, he’s hardly been touched, and we’re going to find out this weekend how well he performs under pressure. He still possesses some bad habits that absolutely can and will rear its ugly head against a team like Bama.

        Has Lambert performed better than I expected to this point? Absolutely…no doubt there. But in terms of facing a quality D, in a huge game, and under pressure, he still is an unproven commodity.

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        • DawgPhan

          So in terms of this very specific set of criteria that I just made up he is unproven.

          44/47 against air is difficult. All QBs have difficulty when pressured.

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          • 3rdandGrantham

            I can list a litany of QB’s, both in CFB and NFL, that have come out blazing over the past, say, 5-10 years, who eventually flamed out and now can be found holding a clipboard at best. The TAMU QB last year is just one example…after his first few games seemingly everyone was saying he was going to win the Heisman.

            And while I’m certainly not suggesting that Lambert will suffer a similar fate, again his overall sample size is quite limited, no matter how impressive his numbers are (and yes, they are impressive). With that said, if Lambert performs well the next two weeks, I think its a safe bet to say that he’s legitimate, and we very well might have a championship team on our hands.

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            • DawgPhan

              So wait, did Lambert come out blazing or start slow? Or is it both? What is the criteria for a blazing start vs a slow one?

              Chad “Machine Gun” Kelly just beat bama. He just threw 2 picks against Vandy. Even our blazing slow start of a QB didnt do that.

              And Bama’s QB situation is even worse than ours. 6 picks between their two QBs.

              Would you feel better if Lambert had been 18-33 with 2 picks?

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              • 3rdandGrantham

                Look, let’s keep this really simple—Lambert has a mere 4 starts at UGA, two of which coming against ULM and Southern, with the other two coming against Vandy and a depleted SCU team that is a shell of a program compared to a few years ago. Has Lambert exceed my expectations thus far? Yes. Are his recent stats in particular impressive? Hell yes. Is the overall sample size large enough to confidently state that he’s a proven QB? No.

                I’m sure you’ll continue to disagree, but I’ll hang my hat on the notion that 4 starts, two of which coming against cakewalk opponents and the other two coming against SEC bottom dwellers, does automatically gold stamp you as a proven QB. And that goes for all levels of play. With that said, I’m certain, say, I don’t know…Ryan Fitzpatrick would give you a solid high five for your thoughts while the Buffalo Bills GM would basically tell you to do something that most would consider a physical impossibility.

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                • DawgPhan

                  huh?

                  What does proven QB even mean? Proven what? That he can play, that he can play better than most, that he can beat Bama? You want to worry. Worry, have at it. But dont expect others are accept your weird moving target of frets as being legit. Its just your worries. But at someone point you should accept that our QB situation is better than most in the SEC, we have a veteran line and a great group of skill players. Or QB is playing at a very high level right now, regardless of the competition, and we have very good players around him. That is a pretty good situation to find yourself in.

                  Shits given about the Bills QB situation = 0. WTF are you even talking about?

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          • 44/47 is a combined QB stat. GL is actually 33/35 since USCe. Impressive still but Bama’s DL got big ups. Look for lots of batted balls.

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        • Biggus Rickus

          Alabama hasn’t been particularly good at rushing the passer, so I don’t know how much pressure he’s going to see this game either. The windows in the secondary will be smaller though.

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          • Cojones

            Not sure about the smaller windows. Either that or the greatest QBs this season preceded us with Bama and their now perceived soft 11th-ranked secondary.

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  8. charlottedawg

    So random unorganized thoughts.

    First i think the whole “Bama is pissed off angry and desperate” thing is way overblown. These teams are who they are and whoever wins Saturday afternoon would’ve done so regardless of the outcome of the ole miss Alabama game. Did people think Alabama was just going to overlook us because they were 4-0?

    At the expense of probably stating the obvious the biggest match up to me is Bama ‘s4th ranked rush defense against our ground game. Can our o line create some holes for nick and Sony.

    Lastly, i really hope this team shows up prepared but loose Saturday. October will make or break our year but the fact remains this is the least important conference game. Yeah I wanna beat Alabama for a million reasons but if we win it won’t matter if we lose to an eastern opponent and if we lose it won’t matter if we sweep the east.

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    • UGA85

      I think your first and last statements say a lot. Bama has to win this game. We don’t. We have to win the Tennessee game. Motivations are different.

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  9. I’d hardly call Bammer’s offense more versatile. Lol. Week 1 most basic Georgia offense vs week 4 coming off a loss Bammer offense it’s hardly apples to apples.

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  10. Cojones

    UL-M’s comparisons are moot since these two teams had two differing game plans for specific reasons.

    Read that yesterday and wanted to post to it, but didn’t want to blog elsewhere. Some blogs don’t tolerate cacti like Bluto, our flower garden tender.

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  11. Brandon

    They are going to pound the middle of our Defense… end of story. We stop their power running game….we win. This will by far be the loudest most adverse environment Coker’s ever set foot in, I just don’t see them coming out trying to sling it. I expect quite a heavy dose of Henry.

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  12. HVL Dawg

    Bama will be practicing indoors all week.

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    • Dolly Llama

      Good. Then they can come to Athens and slip and slide their asses off in Sanford while our boys will have been practicing in the slop all week and used to it.

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  13. I’m intrigued by the extra amount of motivation that Pruitt will have going up against his old bosses. Obviously he’s not matching wits directly with Smart, but I gotta guess he’ll have a little extra inspiration this week.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      Same here. FWIW, one of the so-called all-star poster guys on the Bama BOL board said the other day that he is golfing buddies with Pruitt going back quite a few years, and he flat out said that Pruitt no doubt has this game circled on his calendar. Went on to say that Pruitt felt he should have gotten the DC job over Smart, and has held a grudge since. Finally said Pruitt is very happy at UGA and will only leave for a solid HC opportunity at this point.

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  14. steve

    Didn’t we just have a supermoon lunar eclipse with a blood moon? This astronomical event occurs very rarely, apparently. Well, Georgia fans need to think about our very own, specially designed CFB weekend bloodmoon. We won………… Auburn lost to Miss State (say it again and relish the taste….LOST to Miss State)……. Tech LOST to duke (DUKE), and Smokeytop lost to Fl. Now I want to enjoy that gumbo before I even think about ….’what if…..and Alabama. ‘ The fans are already screaming for Sgt Carter’s execution and Gus’ eviction……Delovely.!….We may never have that kind of bloodmoon again.

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    • I felt a very strong urge for a cigarette after Saturdays bloodbath…if only there could have been a way for the lizards to have lost as well.

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      • dawgtired

        Down 2 scores with 4 minutes to go and the Vols let them off the hook! Just like they did against OU. They better not play well against us to 2 weeks. I’ll complain!

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    • Bazooka Joe

      And the Falcons beat the Cowboys…. not just beat them, but came from behind and ripped their little Texas hearts out….. The perfect weekend !

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  15. Tend to think this game comes down to which team gets better QB play (brilliant analysis, I know).

    Our D will give Lambert a chance to make some throws. If he makes them, I don’t see us beating y’all.

    Not sure how much we can slow down Chubb, but I’m more worried about him out of the backfield. Our LBs are good, but we are thin there and they aren’t the best covering backs out of the backfield. Wisky abused us with that.

    I don’t blame our offensive performance all on Laner. We had about nine dropped passes on Saturday and Coker doesn’t usually opt for the easiest throw. I think our run-pass ratio is somewhat off as they work to get these problems corrected (plus playing from behind vs UM).

    Coker has also struggled with over-the-top passes. He’s just a touch off (or the receivers drop the ball). This is an important part of the offense and it just hasn’t worked.

    In short, we are weak at QB and we have had trouble creating explosive plays on offense. On defense, we don’t create turnovers.

    BD

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    • Chadwick

      You point out that the vertical passing game hasn’t been there this year. It’s what I’ve noticed most about y’all’s offense. No Cooper hurts that part of the offense greatly. Sims could make that throw, too.

      Should be a terrific game.

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      • No doubt Cooper leaving has hurt, but some guys just throw the long ball better than others. Just haven’t seen it from Coker yet.

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        • Cojones

          QBs have great days sometimes, if they had it in them to begin with. Coker can have a big game against us so I say “meh” to those comments about your QB.

          You haven’t spoken of your D secondary. How do the fans and coaches view that part of your game? We have the talent there, but it depends upon Pruitt’s scheming as to whether they have a good game or not.

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  16. El Dawgo

    Hard to accurately compare our 3 quarters of extremely vanilla offense against ULM to Bama’s game against them.

    If we stop the run, we win. I believe it is as simple as that.

    Crowd raucous, Chubb setting a new record of consecutive 100 yd games, Coker pressured, should equal a Dawgs victory.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      I don’t see Chubb getting 100 this weekend; in fact I could see Michel being the star of the game given all the attention Chubb will get from the Bama D.

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      • PTC DAWG

        Chubb gets 100+. IMHO

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      • Biggus Rickus

        He may not. I’m not expecting Georgia to crack 200 on the ground myself. Lambert’s going to have to play well for Georgia to win. I’m cautiously optimistic about that now.

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        • Biggus Dickus

          If Lambert has a good game Chubb will get over 100. Book it. If Lambert can’t complete any, then it’s another story. Georgia will need to throw successfully to set up the run. All the other personalities agree.

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  17. Derek

    As much as they will key on Chubb running a counter dive to #48 like we did in 1984 with pulpwood could be deadly. Hicks ain’t that fast but he could get some good yards and hold the lbs a count when we’re trying to get Chubb on the edge.

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    • AusDawg85

      Very astute. If you want to scout where CMR has a trick up his sleeve, it’s with using his FB (since so few teams even use on these days). I suspect Schottie has something similar in mind using the TE’s.

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