Voting with our feet

Normally, I include something about the crowd in my “Observations” post if there’s something worth noting, but I thought what went on Saturday merited its own post.

Yeah, the weather sucked.  But despite that, the place was full up at kickoff and the crowd was into it early on.  Alabama’s second quarter onslaught took a lot of the wind out of our sails, but things perked up after Georgia’s defense got a three-and-out on the first series of the second half.

And then Ramsey’s pick-six happened.

There was some booing, but if I’m the coaches and the players, that’s not the reaction that would bother me.  This is:

I’ve been going to sporting events, and writing about sporting events, and thinking about sporting events, for almost 40 years now, and Saturday, midway through the third quarter of Georgia’s nightmarish 38-10 home loss to Alabama, I was a part of something I’ve never experienced before. After Crimson Tide quarterback Jake Coker ran it in from two yards out to give Alabama a 38-3 lead with 10:05 left in the third quarter, at least 50,000 people — more than half Sanford Stadium’s capacity — stood up and left. Together. At once. I had seen people leave games early. I had seen crowds of people leave games early. But I have never once seen roughly the population of Hot Springs, Ark., or Williamsport, Pa., all rise up, as if directed by some invisible collective remote control, heads folded downward, and silently head for the exits. Everyone decided, right as Coker crossed the goal line, that they could not watch this anymore. No one had to say a word. We all just walked out right then, like someone had just set a sacred religious amulet aflame at midfield and we just couldn’t bear to look at it anymore. I suppose that’s exactly what happened.

It was a stampede of dejection.

I’ve said it before.  Anger is one thing.  At least it means people give a damn.  A comfortable apathy, though, can be deadly.  There’s only so many times a fan base can listen to its head coach call for it to show up at a big game and be a contributing factor only to find out that the team hasn’t followed suit before tuning out.  It’s both a credit to Richt and to our devotion to the program that we’ve managed to be in as much as we have.

Maybe our passion is more bottomless than I suspect.  But I wonder how many more times Georgia can shit the bed before we get tired of providing first-class maid service.

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  1. Granthams replacement

    Maybe 50000 got thru the first step of the twelve step program. On the UGA sideline all the players and coaches at the 2008 bama beat down were gone but one. On the bama sideline all are gone except 2. Both outcomes were the same. What does that indicate about the lone UGA coach?

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  2. Monday Night Frotteur

    Georgia will be a “sleeping giant” until Richt retires. The top coaches are, almost without exceptions, jerks. Richt is a certified Nice Guy. Jerks go over film of 40 point blowouts to find a missed block then ream out the wildly underpaid kid who missed the block and his teammates for not jumping on him first. That is not what Nice Guys do and in most huge games Nice Guys lose to jerks.

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    • charlottedawg

      John wooden (arguably the greatest coach ever, albeit a different sport but very similar if not identical dynamics to cfb), dean Smith, coach k, Bowden, & Osborne say hi.character and coaching ability are completely independent variables.

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      • Monday Night Frotteur

        Coach K? The guy who publicly supported blackballing Abar Rouse for blowing the whistle on Dave Bliss’s criminal operation?? The guy who called his own players “f—ing babies?”

        Tom Osborne?!?! Lawrence Phillips, Christian Peter, Riley Washington, and dozens of others say “hello.”

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        • No One Knows You're a Dawg

          Also, Wooden and Dean Smith cheated like hell in recruiting and academics, respectively. And Bowden was very “forgiving” of a lot of stuff his players did.

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      • BMan

        I don’t know if the basketball analogy works. Getting 8-12 players on the same page is a different animal. And if anyone thinks Coach K isn’t a hard-ass, I would disagree. Same for Smith. Wooden was also a stickler, and had all that success when the tournament was a tiny gathering of teams. Plus there was a booster paying all that talent at UCLA.

        Bowden and Osborne may have been nice guys, but those programs sure didn’t do things “the Georgia way.”

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      • 3rdandGrantham

        I’ll just tackle Wooden. Wooden was as mean and ruthless as they come, which included cheating like crazy to win, and his image and wholesome-like biography since retiring in the mid 70’s has changed drastically. Simply google “Sam Gilbert” and do just a few minutes of research on him.

        Pre Sam Gilbert—Wooden coached something like 15 years without even a Pac 8 title. After his arrival, he won 10 NCAA championships over his final 12 years. Bill Walton said it best in one of his books…something like “only the Lakers were a higher paid team in L.A. than we were.”

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  3. Chadwick

    Saturday was an epic bed shit. I’ll withhold judgement against Richt until the entire season plays out. There is a lot of tweaking and philosophy change on nuts and bolts that hasn’t had time to completely become part of the ethos. That said, if they repeat this performance against the remaining teams on the slate, then yes, it’s more than under signing, S&C and recruiting complacency. Alabama is the standard, but the rest of the league isn’t the Nimitz class carrier that is the Alabama war machine. If this team can’t close out, then change might be appropriate.

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  4. DawgPhan

    I was thankful that I could get outta the rain and beat the traffic back to Atlanta.

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  5. DawgPhan

    Though I am thinking that this off season I should be able to get my tickets moved together and upgraded.

    silver linings.

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    • Silver Britches

      Sadly, I had this EXACT same thought on Saturday.

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      • Ben

        We’re trying to get a move back to Georgia, and that’s the silver lining for me, too. When the team is down, poor folks can get on the ticket train and other people can upgarde!

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    • Otto

      Agreed but also this is a reason why the admin has had little motivation to invest in the program. I have talked to several people over the years who gave up tickets under Goff or Donnan and are still working their way back up to what they once had. They are not falling for that again. Saturday was the perfect storm, rain and a certain blowout…. However, if the team gets 10 wins beats GT, the hype will be big again next year.

      I know it was discussed yesterday but my honest feeling is the players showed up and played as well as they could. IF they had not we would not have had a 3-3 tie. They out coached UGA on special teams. One UGA QB’s completion percentage tanks when he is under pressure and the other does not put in work in the film room. The 3rd QB may thrive using a style of offense CMR will not go back to. Defense still needs work still needs work as well. I had hoped UGA would show progress by giving them a 4 Qtr fight but, knew it takes time for all of the changes put in place over the off season to pay off. I question if these changes will show any real improvement under Richt. We know he has a couple of years before he would be shown the door to prove us wrong.

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      • Chi-town Dawg

        Otto is exactly right with his opening comment. However, I would add next year’s hype/expectations are already sky high with Eason expected to “save the day” and all of the returning, experienced underclassman/starters.

        A couple of big differences between now and the Donnan/Golf years though – you can watch ALL of the games from the comfort of your own home for little cost and the current students are much less invested in UGA football, which means they may not be nearly as loyal in supporting future teams. Just my humble opinions.

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        • Jeff

          Expectations are high for next year, but it will be a struggle with a rebuilt O-line, a true freshman (albeit supremely talented) QB, a young starting DL and even younger backups, new kicker, etc. The results of the rebuilt staff and their better recruiting may not show until 2017. Chubb and Michel will be gone, unfortunately. Hope Holyfield and whoever else we bring in at RB can carry on the tradition of great backs.

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          • Mayor

            Everybody on this blog is talking like Eason is a lock to enroll at Georgia. Everyone still so sure after Saturday?

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            • Will (The Other One)

              He’s already signed financial aid papers so he can enroll in Jan. It’s not 100%, but it’s about as close as you can get.

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  6. Hogbody Spradlin

    That’s as close as you’ve come for a while to questioning Mark Richt’s viability.

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    • I like Richt and I don’t want to see him go. But I would like to hear him answer the questions “Why should the fans get up for big games if the team doesn’t? Why should they believe that this is not going to be the yearly embarrassment game?”

      People left because we, as Georgia fans, are conditioned to expect such utter failures. I honestly believed Georgia would beat them this time. I am glad I didn’t break the bank buying tickets. I don’t blame people for booing. I don’t blame you for leaving Senator.

      Great post.

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      • Dolly Llama

        The booing was shitty, I don’t care what you say. I’ve seen several say “They were booing the coaches,” but the players (and potential recruits) almost surely couldn’t tell the difference. Cheer your team or shut the fuck up, but don’t boo a bunch of college kids. Damn.

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        • Go Dawgs!

          When you’re 18, you can vote for the leaders of your community and your nation. You can serve that nation in the military, either voluntarily or through conscription. You can answer for your crimes in an adult court, and if your crime is severe enough, you can answer for it with your life.

          You can handle being booed.

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        • “Cheer your team or STFU.”

          No. It ain’t cheap to go to games–even the crappy ones. No single night hotel rooms to be found within 30 miles of Athens on a home weekend. If you have kids like I do, 6 hours in the car and 4 hours in the stadium is too much to ask in a day–hotel is a required part. Shit parking–everywhere. People were selling tickets to the game this weekend for $250 a ticket. Season ticket holders pay WAY more than that for a season. Maybe the people booing expected a better return in exchange for their entertainment dollars. UGA sells tickets. The SEC sells the TV rights. Like it or not–the team and their performance is a product. People don’t like paying premium prices for rotten products.

          If they stopped selling tickets, requiring Hartman fund donations for the right to buy tickets, and made games free like the Spring Game–you are right–nobody has the right to boo. Until then…every paying customer has every right to Boo if the product sucks.

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  7. Russ

    Well, Charlie Strong should be available this off-season.

    I’m only partially kidding, by the way.

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    • D.N. Nation

      Mack left that program in shambles, but Charlie Strong’s philosophy on fixing their broken offense this offseason was “my good buddy will read a spread offense how-to book and we’ll be good.”

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      • Russ

        I’m not a tin foil guy (normally) but I have to wonder if putting Patterson in there was a way for the big money backers to torpedo Charlie. Texas is a world-class dumpster fire right now. When you have players tweeting at halftime of an epic beatdown, you know you have problems.

        That said, I still think Strong is a good coach. Maybe Texas was too big of a stage for him. He certainly won at Louisville, but then Teddy Bridgewater could make a lot of coaches look good.

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    • RocketDawg

      Are you kidding?? Have you seen Texas?? They are pathetic. No thanks.

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  8. @gatriguy

    So, here’s where I am with that and with Richt and the program at large: I do believe that for a long time Richt was playing at a disadvantage. I believe he has finally gotten the support from the AD that his competition has. Thus, the bullshit stops here. Saturday was Richt’s last hall pass as far as I’m concerned. Another performance like that before he wins something that actually matters and I think he’s toast.

    There is a talent gap between UGA and Alabama. But it’s not as large as the focus, discipline, maturity, attention to detail, and mental toughness gap. None of those things are going to be improved by an IPF and more analysts. That goes to the DNA of a program which comes from the coach. Maybe the Alabama influence he’s brought in can stockpile enough talent for us to play the Miami/FSU “out-athlete” style that Richt cut his teeth in, but the bigger problem exists: at some point, you run into teams with comparable or superior talent. I think the fanbase can handle losing close, competitive games to those teams. We’re at the end of our rope losing them because our coach is getting destroyed.

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    • Granthams replacement

      Amen

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    • KrautDawg

      “it’s not as large as the focus, discipline, maturity, attention to detail, and mental toughness gap.”

      This right here. Every time I heard players talk about momentum after Saturday’s game, I started shaking my head. Momentum is important, no doubt, but play-in-play-out execution for four quarters is better — and has a knack for getting momentum back.

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      • RocketDawg

        I agree with you to a point. However Pruitt said in an interview post game that he and most of the new guys had been here for a year or one recruiting cycle and something to the effect that Bama had been doing it for 8. How many of those Bama classes over the last 8 years were anything less than top 1 or 2?

        I think it is fairly obvious by the amount of freshmen we are playing this year that the talent was substandard especially on defense. On Henry’s 30 yard TD run Jonathan Abram (true freshman) was too far inside and tackled air. Most of the secondary are young players.

        I am reserving judgement until I see what the rest of the season holds. I think there was a similar melt down after the 35-7 thumping by SC in 2012 and we ended up almost winning the SECCG and playing for the MNC. Still a lot of football left.

        For the record though I expect us to get back to ATL this year and get throttled by Bama again.

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        • I’m a Dawg for life whoever the coach is. Thankfully I’ve reached a point that a loss like this doesn’t ruin my day. Maybe it’s because I’ve gotten used to it but I don’t think so…

          Anyways, a couple of things that were on my mind and you brought up both in your post:

          1) Saban had UA at 11-0 and playing UF for the SEC Championship in 2008 after only 1 full recruiting cycle.

          2) In 2012 we did overcome the SC loss and made it to ATL but we had Aaron Murray at QB

          TN has been up by at least 13 points in all 3 losses this year. I’m sure they aren’t going in the tank for us so hopefully our guys learned some things from the UA game about overcoming in-game adversity and will rebound well.

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  9. I was in the tide section watching their fans wave goodbye during the mass exodus. My comfortable apathy shielded me from giving a shit. Just a bad, bad day to be a Georgia fan.

    Yet I’ll be locked in for the UT game to cheer the Dawgs on. Thank you sir, may I have another?

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  10. I’m more impressed 30k stayed, to be honest.

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  11. I wasn’t able to be there Saturday, kid commitments. But I’m certain that’s the point I would have left as well. Shoot, even on the television, I only made it a tad bit longer – I turned it off after Brice’s 2nd pick, which I believe was on the ensuing drive, though I could be wrong about that. I was only half paying attention by then anyway.

    Turned the tv over to the Disney channel, and as my 8 & 5 year old daughters came and snuggled up with me to watch, it definitely gave me some perspective. 🙂

    I wouldn’t say I’ve become apathetic, but I’m a whole lot closer to apathetic on the spectrum than I have been in the past.

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    • William

      Amen. I did something similar, since continued watching was only making matters worse. I married a Tech fan (don’t ask, I’m still not sure), and she was just as down (which I still take a little bit of joy in), so we had to cut off the football completely before we were both useless to our kids. Fire up the X-Box and let them play since they can’t go outside.

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    • PHDawg

      That’s about when I turned it off, too. We’d spent the first half touring a battleship with its former captain and, with the blind loyalty of a Georgia fan, turned on the second half thinking we could turn it around. When Coker walked it in I turned the tv off and went to pick up my son. When we got home my daughter was watching the Disney Channel and there it stayed until they went to bed. I tried to watch some of one of the games on that night and couldn’t even muster that. I think I may be cured.

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      • Ben

        Same here. It was a miserable day to be a fan, but the alabama people around me were kind and supportive the day after. Maybe pity is worse than taunting? I don’t know. Hell, I took off my red and black shirt before going back out after Ramsey’s 1st INT.

        I’m an idiot, though. I’ll be in front of the TV to watch the UT game, and I’ll be pissed if we lose and ecstatic if we win. And like Tyler Dawgden said somewhere, I’m sticking with these guys (against my own better judgment) because I am selfish, and when we finally break through, I want to be able to say, “I was there then.”

        So, sorry to my family that I put myself through this for about 4 months a year.

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        • I get the sentiment about when we finally break through. I’m just much more even-keeled about it all than I used to be. Took my daughters roller skating yesterday and was still rocking a UGA shirt out there. Took some ribbing from a couple of the other dads who were there, but it’s all in good fun. I said “we’re middle-aged men out here on roller skates, we look ridiculous no matter WHAT we wear”, everybody laughed, and that was it.

          I’ll still watch every game and be at every game that I can be (which is less and less now that my daughters are getting to the age where they have things going on during the weekends), but I’m past the point of being too upset when we do our stuff. Since that 2008 Bama game where I lost my mind, the only other game that’s done that to me was 2013 Vandy. Other than that, we lose, and I just move on to the next game on the dial. Totally enjoyed the Clemson-ND game.

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          • Russ

            Fortunately for my family and unfortunately for me, I was at that 2013 Vandy game with some buddies. So at least I was able to get my rage out without upsetting the family. TBH, that game probably bugged me more since we got so thoroughly jobbed by the refs in that game. At least against Bama, it was painfully obvious that we weren’t even in the same league with them. That is a more philosophical type of pain, one that I’ll ponder for a long while. Vandy just flat pisses me off to this day.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      The Florida game made me more apathetic than I had been since Richt had seemingly righted the ship after the 2010 season. I’m not quite to the checked out point I was Goff’s final three years and Donnan’s last one, partially because Georgia’s still better than they were then, but that nagging thought I had about Georgia shitting the bed this year is now a firm expectation going forward. And if they hold true to form, they’ll play just well enough to trick people into thinking the Bama game was an aberration before the next meltdown.

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  12. apathy is exactly what i felt as i left (2 plays prior to the coker score). i even wondered aloud of the bama fans were still enjoying it bc, honestly, we we’re putting up a fight equal to an FCS team and it was POURING. im surprised they didn’t leave with us

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  13. JAX

    Blutarsky, this is your best post in years. Thank you.

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  14. Exactly. Downpour + Pick Six to go down 31-3 = People leaving in droves. What sort of masochist stays during something like that? Give me a break.

    Add to it the, psychological gut punch that UGA fans were waiting on, you get people just wanting to go home, go to a bar, do anything to get away from that train wreck.

    We had so much to gain and in less than 2 hours it was completely gone.

    Mark Richt is the new John Cooper. At least they had the guts to make the tough decision. I don’t necessarily want Richt to move on but you can’t argue with the results after OSU let Cooper go.

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    • @gatriguy

      No, Cooper dominated everyone, but just couldn’t beat Michigan. Richt gets pants pulled down regularly. Cooper took two different teams to Rose Bowl and in all honesty should’ve won both the 1996 and 1998 NCs. Richt is sadly no John Cooper.

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    • Bright Idea

      Like always, regardless of the circumstances, I stayed until the dreadful end. Besides family I don’t care about much else and they were sitting right there with me. I’ll be in Knox Saturday. I’m not a Disney Dog, I know the score on Richt but Georgia is my school and I’m invested good or bad. Maybe folks like me are a part of the problem.

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  15. I left after the pick 6. The defense did their job on the first drive of the 2nd half, and then Ramsey happened with no one trying to make the tackle. At that point the 2X4 that is our QB situation hit me upside the head.

    It was frustrating to watch because the crowd was ready. I thought the team was ready and then they didn’t take the 1st punch.

    Oh well, let’s go get them in Knoxville …

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    • Chi-town Dawg

      I/we also left after the pick 6 and then heard the Alabama fans roar as Coker scored while Exiting the stadium. This only re-affirmed our decision to leave early. Ironically, my seats are covered, so one of my buddies said “the game was so bad, we decided to get soaking wet rather than sit thru anymore of that game”.

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  16. Skeptic Dawg

    Sadly, Georgia is not an elite program. Richt has been here for 15 years, he will likely be here for another 15 if he so chooses. If the Dawgs are not elite by now, how much longer will it take? 2006-2010 was the low point under Richt and he earned the right to be fired. I banged the drum calling for his head time and time again during that period, yet here he remains. The program will be good as long as Richt stays, but never will the program reach greatness. As fans we will continue to suffer through 2 to 4 losses every season with hopes of more. This is where I am now. It is sad.

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    • 69Dawg

      You think you are sad I’m 68 and I have been waiting 35 years for UGA to be elite again. It’s not going to happen. I at least gave up my season tickets 2 years ago so I don’t have to attend the wake I can watch it at home. I will say that I now approach each game with the mental attitude that we are capable of losing the game. This makes me not so mad when we do.

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      • No AxeToGrind

        Well I can at least say this. I saw the last NC at the Superdome. I was 32 at the time, now I just turned 67. As long as Richt is there I am convinced I will never again see anything of significance. After 34 years of contributing and buying season tickets, 20 years of which I was an active duty Army officer, I quit contributing and buying tickets several years ago. I could see the handwriting on the wall. I have no regrets.

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    • dudemankind

      I’m not even asking for the program to reach greatness. I just want them to stop crapping the bed so darn often. It is not entertaining to watch, but instead becomes something painful.

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      • PatinDC

        Yeah. I agree with your there.

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      • do not resuscitate

        Sadly, this is where a lot of UGA fans seem to be these days. All last week we were bombarded by article after article stating that our program is now at a point where this outcome is basically expected of us. I thought that would be enough for our team to come out and play with some fire, make it a close match, maybe even win (though even that seemed like a long shot in reality). Alas, I was greeted with more of the same, and am beginning to become quite apathetic about our football team. And I don’t want to be.

        At this point it is obvious that these types of games are systemic. The question is what, short of a new head coach, can be done to fix it?

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  17. paul

    For me, Saturday was it. As I posted under “Observations from the 35, rainy day in Athens edition” I’ve seen very few Georgia teams with a fighters heart since Erk Russell left. Our coaches simply don’t seem to be able to instill mental toughness. Either our guys have it or they don’t but the coaches seem clueless as to how to develop it. That’s the most disappointing thing to me. I’ll keep watching. And I’ll continue to enjoy our wins. But I’ll not lament our losses because I no longer have any real expectations of this team other than to occasionally entertain me. As badly as we want to be a team that can consistently compete with the elite, we aren’t that team.

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  18. 69Dawg

    I like Richt, he is a great human being and firing him would be like clubing a baby seal. The real reason we have lost like we have over the years is his total lack of recruiting 5 star offensive lineman. We put up a fight for one quarter but in that one quarter it was obvious that our offensive line was woefully over matched. They never got any push in fact they were being pushed into the backfield. If you are so stubborn that you keep running a pro-style offense in a spread world then you had better have Alabama’s line. We don’t and come Saturday we will hope that by the second half our line will have tired out the UT D line because unlike Alabama UT does not have the dept to take the pounding. Missouri will be the same. Mark my words we lose to UF because their defensive front 7 are fast and good and they have a QB now. We will not win the East if we lose to UF. The only reason we will be in the race is that UF has to play LSU.

    Until we are serious about the quality of our offensive line, we are doomed to repeat our dubious history under Richt.

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    • Chuck

      Bama and Fla might have the front 7s capable of slowing down Fournette; if so, LSU is in trouble because their QB situation may be worse than ours.

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    • JCDAWG83

      There is a lot more to it than the O line. Our dbs looked like Saturday was the first day they had played organized football. Our qbs (both) are God awful. Our punter looks like he is throwing passes to the return man.

      Richt is the head man, it’s his responsibility to make sure the pieces are all put together. He’s not doing a very good job of that. It doesn’t matter how good of a man he is or great of a human being he is; that’s not what he’s paid millions a year to be. He’s paid millions to be a great football coach, and he’s not.

      Richt can only win when he has superior talent, period. It is the same model he learned under Daddy Bowden at FSU. If we were in the ACC, we would be champs most years. Unfortunately, we are in the SEC. When the other team has equal talent, Georgia loses with Richt as the coach. It’s been this way for 15 seasons now and it’s not going to change..

      Fans getting up and walking out, or not even coming to the game does not matter a bit to the BM crowd. As long as those fans send in the checks, everyone at BM is happy. According to some on here, 85% or more of the fan base is very happy with the program. Don’t look for any changes any time soon.

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  19. Go Dawgs!

    I’ve only left one loss early, and that was last year’s loss to Florida. And as I was walking away from the stadium in Jacksonville, I saw that the team was still fighting and had scored, and I felt bad for giving up. I decided I’d never do it again. I don’t know why I stayed on Saturday. I did see some guys fighting hard. Nick Chubb deserves a better team and a better game plan. I saw some instances where the defense really bowed its neck in the second half, but I also believe that Alabama had put the thing in neutral by then.

    I dunno. I was pretty numb to it all. I just like Sanford Stadium I guess, and I was under an overhang. Leaving would have just been going back out in the rain.

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  20. Spike

    Why take Lambert out, put Ramsey in, then take him out and put Lambert back in?

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  21. Bulldog Joe

    We stayed until the end of the game.

    Aside from Chubb’s touchdown, y’all didn’t miss much.

    The only thing we missed was the traffic.

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  22. 3rdandGrantham

    All my braves/UGA friends give me all sorts of heck for being a Dodgers fan, with one of the main points being that Dodgers fans are apathetic cretins, who often show up in the 2nd inning and leave in the 7th.

    Compared to many UGA fans, however, Dodger fans are about as loyal, fanatical and hardscrabble as you can get—like the Packers fan going shirtless for a 5 degree game at Lambeau in December.

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  23. J Scott

    I live 1000+ miles from Athens, so going to a game is a big deal to me. Sadly, I haven’t bothered for the past 5+ years because I’ve come to expect letdowns in big games.

    Even watching every game on TV has become less of a thing in my life. It’s not even worth that time investment.

    I basically stopped paying attention after the first play of the game, when Lambert couldn’t connect on a wide open down field throw. That set the tone for the rest of the day IMHO.

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    • JAX

      Lambert could have completed that pass and Mitchell could have scored, and it would have made zero difference other than having 7 points. Bama physically and mentally mauled us, nothing was going to change that.

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      • J Scott

        There’s so much “mental” to it. Lambert hits a big pass on the opening play, and he feels good from the outset… I think it’s a different game.

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        • It’s not just that. If that play clicks, Schottenheimer is more confident opening the playbook to take advantage of what Smart’s giving his offense.

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          • To be fair, we came out and hit a very similar play after that, after the Tide’s first FG. Hit Mitchell on about a 40 yard completion. And had absolutely no effect on Lambert being more confident or Schotty opening up the playbook. Count me in the corner that firmly believes missing that that one play wouldn’t have changed much of anything at all. We were gonna be physically manhandled no matter what.

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  24. John Denver is full of shit...

    Redemption in the dome and this can just be a sloppy loss.

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  25. Merk

    Everyone always references his 0.750 winning percentage, but it has not been quite that since 2007. We are literally 15-30 vs RANKED teams since 2008. Basically we win one third of the damn time when we play teams that are good.

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    • D.N. Nation

      Just for what it’s worth:

      2012: 2-2 against ranked teams
      2013: 2-3 against ranked teams (2-1 when the team was healthy)
      2014: 4-2 against ranked teams
      2015: 0-1 against ranked teams

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    • JCDAWG83

      If you look at team rankings at the END of the season I’m not sure our record is that good. If we face a team with equal talent, ranked or not, we generally lose.

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      • RocketDawg

        You only get credit if they are ranked at the time you play them. Injuries and such changed teams over time. If we waited until the end of the season to rank the teams then everyone’s record would be different. The UGA team that beat SC and LSU in ’13 was very different from the one that lost to Vandy and Mizzou due to injuries.

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  26. JAX

    For some of the older crowd on here, you might remember the ’98 TN game in Athens. Saturday’s mauling certainly reminded me of it.

    Similar circumstances — we had not beaten TN in 7 years, Manning had just graduated, and were coming into the game 4-0 and with a head full of steam. Plus, TN’s top RB Jamal Lewis (from Atlanta, we took Sanks) was injured and would miss the game. I couldn’t sleep that week knowing the Dawgs were going to get the elusive win. Shoot, who the heck was Tee Martin? Dawgnation was fired up and ready to rock!!!

    Turns out, TN absolutely physically dominated us from start to finish. Quincy could hardly take a snap under center with the massive TN Dline blowing our poor suckers off the ball. He was literally running for his life. Final score was 20-3 if I recall, but it was worse than that. That vaunted GA offense could hardly get a first down! Complete and utter domination.

    Saturday was worse because we are a better program now, right?

    Right?

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    • PatinDC

      Ugh. Don’t remind of that game. Or that fact that we got Jasper Sanks…bad times.

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    • @gatriguy

      100% the game I thought of. Remember in that UT game, we tied it at 3. But it felt exactly like tieing it at 3 felt Saturday: we went through a wood chipper to get those 3 points. There was no way we were going to be able to stem the flood bc we would never be able to hold serve.

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    • Was at that game too. I didn’t see the level of domination on the line this Saturday than I saw back then. Just my opinion tho. I did feel that with the weather and the QB play, we were just as unlikely to score this Saturday than we were then (the wood chipper that gatri mentioned applies to Saturdays game as well).

      This is a good reminder of how much I can’t stand UT. I just remember their punk fans after the game.

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      • JAX

        On recognition of their 8th straight win over us, a group of them were in the stands counting “one, two, three……..six, seven, EEIIIGGGHHHTTT”.

        Over and over and over and over.

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        • They rubbed it in didn’t they? I just remember some kid giggling like a schoolgirl and getting in my face about 8 in a row. He danced off before I could even respond fortunately.

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  27. Dog in Fla

    At least our guy knows how to throw a bomb every now and then

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  28. charlottedawg

    Nothing much to add hasn’t been discussed already. As someone who really really wanted to see Mark Richt turn the corner the last ten years this was painful but entirely expected. The guy’s not going to win another sec championship. Call a talent differential, mindset, etc. These are all things the head coach is responsible for and has control over. College programs with built in advantages (ofwhichGeorgia certainly counts) are a direct reflection of the ability of their coaching staff. The flagship program in the state that basically supplies the talent for the sec (plus Florida) should not be getting blown out on anannualbasis like clockwork. Even in 2011 & 2012 when we made it to the Georgia dome the west champ was vastly superior to us. Five yards short is our ceiling. It’s time to start over. I’d advocate firing mcgarity too and cleaning house in butts mehre. We have a systemic culture problem and it takes new blood to change that.

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    • JCDAWG83

      You are making the mistake of thinking the overall fan base is unhappy with our football program. BM only looks at one thing, money, and the fans are pouring it into Athens in record amounts. We can talk all we want about “voting with our feet”, until fans start voting with their wallets, we will continue to be what we are and what we have been for 30 years.

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      • mikebozo

        ^^^^^^^^
        Exactly spot on statement

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        • RocketDawg

          I am not making excuses but please tell me what we could do differently in our recruiting short of paying players like the SEC West schools do to get better players? Seriously I want to know.

          We whiff on some recruits but so does everyone else. We are offering more and earlier over the last 2 years and there are a lot of top recruits who are interested.

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  29. W Cobb Dawg

    I think this is by far the best staff we’ve had in a heck of a long time. And I have little doubt our AD has been given specific orders by Morehead to do what’s needed to support the program. Unfortunately, the remaining weak link is the HC.

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  30. Brandon

    For what its worth I was in Columbia in 2012 and watched that team get bitch slapped by USCe in what might have been an uglier loss than Saturday’s… and to a worse team. Sometimes shit just doesn’t go your way…. That team also turned its shit around and wound up 5 yards short of playing for a natty by the end of the year. There’s a lot of football left get back off the fucking ledge people.

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    • JCDAWG83

      I think it’s sad and a little pathetic that a substantial portion of our fan base takes a great deal of pride in coming up 5 yards short. I guess I need to go to BM and see the trophy for almost winning a championship. There certainly has to be a huge trophy case to hold all the “almosts” in Georgia football history.

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      • Brandon

        I think its sad and a little pathetic that a substantial portion of our fan base expects us to win the national championship every year and anything short of that is an utter failure. UGA has 2 national football championships in the programs’ entire history. We are not Alabama and never will be. Move over there if you want to hold winning at football above everything else in your life.

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        • Biggus Rickus

          Speaking for myself, I just want to win the SEC title every four or five years. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.

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        • Tired old Dog

          I don’t think anyone in this thread was expecting a national championship. Most of us want to be a 4 quarter team when we play a top team and not be leaving the game early; embarrassed once again.

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        • charlottedawg

          If by “every” you mean more than once every 35 years and counting, yes. Fans can be “impatient “. It would also be nice to compete for the conference championship on a consistent basis. There’s a fine line between patience and stubbornly sticking to a failing course of action.

          As far as the argument that we’ve historically under achieved as evidenced by only our 2 national championships, guess what, there was a time when Miami, FSU, LSU, & Florida had zero football tradition and flat out sucked. You know what transformed them into powerhouses? Coaches such as schnellenberger, Bowden, saban, & spurrier who said “this isn’t good enough we reside in a hot bed of talent. No more excuses. Winning starts now.”

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          • Will (The Other One)

            Funnily enough it took all of them a few seasons to win a national title though. Spurrier dominated the SEC pretty quickly, but his first national title game was as lopsided a bowl game between 1v2 as I’ve ever seen.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      I’ve come to the conclusion that Murray was more responsible for the team not folding again that year and the lack of complete bed shitting in 2013. Richt wasted four years of the best QB in Georgia history, by the way.

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  31. bullydawgy

    Alabama bullied us. Let’s not bully ourselves.

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  32. sUGArdaddy

    I just think ‘us not being ready’ is a disingenuous look at the game. It was toe to toe for over a quarter. Both and Richt and Saban were playing it very conservative thanks to the weather, trying to play field position. I felt if we got up by 10-14, it was over because I didn’t think either team could come back in the rain and both teams had backs able to grind it out.

    The blocked punt was killer, and kudos to Kiffen for going up top for the dagger. It worked. We were a shade late getting to Coker too many times. They were better that day. I think we’d beat them 4 out of 10 times. We make too much of losses because we’re UGA fans and an unhappy bunch. Everyone in the SEC outside of Tuscaloosa is tired of losing to Bama and seeing them succeed. We’re also ALL losing games by double digits and Bama isn’t. They’re the benchmark, and we’re not there yet.

    But anyone who thinks there is a better answer is crazy. We’re better than we’ve been in some time, better off in recruiting and have a stud coming in at the one position in which we are obviously hurting. Can we just let the season play out. I feel like Aaron Rogers…RELAX. It was ugly. We got handled. Let’s play this week and see if we can take care of business these next three games.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      And this is why Richt won’t be fired as long as he wins 9 or 10 games most of the time. There are enough people who are always willing to think they’ll get over the hump with the next recruit or the next coaching change or the next facility upgrade.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      “But anyone who thinks there is a better answer is crazy.” Would you say Saban is a better answer? Obviously, Georgia isn’t going to hire Saban. My point is that better options exist. There’s a guy at a minor program right now who’s going to be the next great coach somewhere. There always is. It’s a matter of finding him.

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      • @gatriguy

        Steve Spurrier was HC at Duke, Saban at Toledo, Meyer at Bowling Green and Utah, Harbaugh at San Diego St., Chip Kelly at New Hampshire, Brian Kelly at Grand Valley St. etc., etc.

        The blueprint is out there. Get someone with head coaching experience from a school where they had to win without a talent advantage.

        The “who could do better” argument is total crap.

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        • Will (The Other One)

          I think it’s partly crap when Brian Kelly, who’s best season had some close (or ref-aided, given that Stanford TD that wasn’t called) calls before getting destroyed by Bama, is on your “who could do it better” list.

          My 2009-10 list was topped by Kevin Sumlin (who was at Houston) and hey, he did beat Bama once. Also lost to them 59-0 last year, so “better” is very much a crap shoot.

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          • @gatriguy

            Sure, your mileage my vary. I personally think all things being equal, Brian Kelly would smoke Richt. I meant to put Sumlin on that list too.

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      • Otto

        Yes other options exist, no hire is guaranteed. If you are satisfied you know the ceiling on the current situation, and are not happy, it is time to look at what it takes to get to where you want to be. Pointing at UT, who honestly thought Kiffin was a good idea? UF is looking very dangerous with a coach that was in my top 5 options, granted it is still very early on. My 1st requirement is no coaches without HC experience, UGA is not a learning job.

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      • Mike Hamilton… is that you?

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    • AusDawg85

      Gracious! With an attitude like that, how can I whine, make-up stats to support my arguments, post the same complaint 1000’s of times, think I’m the center of the universe capable of changing humanity to see the world as I see it through comments on a football blog, and ignore all the positive things I’ve apologized for being negative about in the past?

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  33. OhioDawg

    This game changed me. I love the Dawgs and I’ll be a fan until I choke on my last breath, but I don’t think I’ll ever get truly excited about the team again until they’ve shown that they’ve gotten over the hump and gotten past this tendency to wet the bed. Every big game going forward, I’m just going to be expecting to get blown out instead of being excited about the possibilities.

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  34. UGA85

    I just can’t agree that we would beat them 4 out of 10 times. I do agree that we have to let the season play out. But if it plays out poorly, someone needs to make the hard decisions necessary to bring a championship to Athens. At this point, no IPF, administration, underfunding, and lack of talent no longer hold up as excuses for me. Our coaching needs to improve. Period.

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  35. AusDawg85

    Pruitt and his Bama brethren were the biggest inside job ever. Saban circled this game on his calendar years ago and set the wheels in motion to destroy us. He almost sent Smart to do the job, but found a sneakier way.

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    • @gatriguy

      Do you honestly think Nick Saban needs to circle a game in advance to pull Richt’s pants down? This is the 3rd of these curb stompings he’s laid on Richt.

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  36. BringOutYourDead

    Never seen a team lay down so easily after receiving the first punch in the mouth. But that has become a hallmark of CMR teams. He just does not have the fire, desire, or ability to get it done. Yeah, he’s a swell guy. Nice guys get fired all the time. Fact is, Georgia was never all that great a program before him anyway, save the Herschel years. So whatever.

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  37. Will Trane

    If CMR drops the game at UT on nationally televised CBS, then I think the Athletic Board and AD need to start closing CMR out. Surely, players, coaches, TV viewers and all saw the 50,000 going out not because of the rain but the level of play on the field and the score board. Not one person would have left if the score was reversed or if the Dawgs trailed by 7 or less.
    Lay this loss on CMR.
    Another week of off field distractions and another blow out game. A game where every phase was a disaster. That is coaching.
    I do not think the game in Knoxville will be a win for CMR. He can talk about winning, hostile environment, a hunger UT team, and whatever, but what he can not and will not talk about is why he keeps failing as a head coach. Why he can not manage a roster, a schedule, motivation of players, game play decisions, and etc. The man is a coaching failure!

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  38. Will Trane

    Bama’s coaches came into that game with a chip on their shoulders after the Ole Miss loss. They caught a lot of grieve in the state of Alabama. They had been under attack since that loss to Auburn. IT built to a crest in the Ole Miss loss.
    If you do not think Bama wanted to beat the hell out of CMR, and they knew they could go back watch the game again, and watch how they left their teamers on the field when the game had been decided. Lane Kiffin hates CMR period! And CMR just lets it go…nice guy. And Smart he not only remembered almost losing to Dawgs in Dome SECCG but that Ole Miss game was a burning tattoo on him.
    You get what you pay for, but you get what you are willing to put up with. Dawg alums and supporters are willing to put up with a lot of embarrassment and humiliating losses under CMR…throw in not SECCG in 10 years. CMR coaches at the flag ship university in the state of Georgia.
    Few states have the caliber of high school football players this state has. Plus those kids are coached by outstanding staffs. CMR wastes them.

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    • RocketDawg

      Do you even read what you write? Lay off the drugs Will.

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      • Tired old Dog

        Will is on point about the talent in state, sort of like how UGA does “so well” with the depth of top tier basketball and baseball talent in state. Oh, wait a minute….
        The problems at UGA have been “institutionalized”.

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  39. When we meet real tragedy in life, we can react in two ways-either by losing hope and falling into self destructive habits, or by using the challenge to find our inner strength. Thanks to the teachings of Buddha, I have been able to take this second way.

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  40. Athens Dog

    Left on the Brice pick………….some guy yelling at me for “giving up…..you need to support the team” Still left. We have no heart to overcome adversity.

    And I’ll be watching and dying Saturday. A life long irrational passion

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  41. Athens Dog

    Schlabach “Remember that Michael Douglas flick from the 1990s called “The Game,” in which the plot was so obvious it was painful to watch? If you don’t, it’s very similar to watching the Bulldogs play in a big game. It’s like you know what’s going to happen before the ball is even kicked off.”

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  42. sUGArdaddy

    I just disagree. Mizzou, A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Florida and Auburn have ALL lost multiple games in the last 2 years by more than 2 TDs. Bama is the only SEC team that hasn’t. I’m not happy about that, but what I know is that Pinkel, Sumlin, Miles, and Freeze are darn good football coaches. Jury is still out on Malzhan, IMHO. Florida just looked great Saturday, but they struggled, and I mean struggled, vs. ECU, UK, and Tennessee. Can we let Richt coach against him before we crown him champion of the East?

    I understand the frustration, what I don’t understand is the fascination of belief that it WILL be fixed with one magical hire, because Saban and Meyer are the outliers, not the norm. If we were to can Richt, you can sign Jacob Eason up for Southern Cal or Bama. And it’s so easy for folks to think that the next Saban WANTS to come here. What coach in their right mind would take a job where reeling off 10-win seasons and the best winning percentage in school history isn’t enough?

    I just HATE the constant, week to week, evaluation in college football. You evaluate seasons, not 1 game performances. It sucked. Chalk it up in the ‘it sucked’ column for the year. But what we don’t know is if it’s a catalyst for disaster or success for the rest of the season. Can we give the man and team a chance to show us?

    We haven’t caught Bama yet, but no one else has either. It’s the most ridiculous comment ever to think Richt doesn’t have fire to win. I’ve been to plenty of practices to see the man at work. He’s plenty competitive. I’ll take knocking on the door. Maybe that’ll be the wrong gamble, but I’ve seen the gamble work out the other way too much. And can we just let it play out?

    Anyone who read the article quoting Rush Propst had to raise an eyebrow. He said, “I think they’re a year away.” That’s a pretty interesting statement from a guy that knows more football than us. Way more football than us. He knows enough about our program and the SEC and he says, ‘they’re a year away.’

    I just keep going back the South Carolina 2012. It was ugly and dominating. And we went on a tear like we’ve never done before after that. People were ready to jump off the bridge. Maybe we go in the tank and have problems. Maybe our QB play dooms us. Maybe we lose another close one that cost us the division. But maybe we circle the wagons. Maybe we played a team full of 4 and 5 start kids who played their best game ever together? Maybe Lambert flips a switch? Maybe we get another shot again and we hit the pass to Malcom?

    That’s my take. I’m done. I’ve just grown tired of the weekly anointing of the next great team and throwing dirt on the team that just lost. We’ll know what the real story is in December. But all we know now is we’re 4-1 and in control of our own destiny. Let’s win Saturday and go from there. Or, would it make some of us feel better if we go 8-4 so we could be ‘right’ about Mark Richt? You see, that’s the ‘Dawg fan’ I just don’t understand.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      I think most of us would rather be wrong. I’d love it if Richt would do something to make me think I’m wrong about him.

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      • Otto

        Agreed with Biggus Rickus, sUGArdaddy It isn’t just 1 game, it is a pattern. We don’t want to see the team go 8-4 but at the same time it is frustrating to see people so eager to give a coach another shot when the results are as expected (to the point the national media is calling UGA out, Is UGA Clemson?). So what do you do to get the program to move forward and to be what the program has resources to do? It isn’t so much the absence of a crystal ball as the regular bed crappings (and to inferior teams… UF)

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        • sUGArdaddy

          I think what you do is stay the course. I think we started over in 2014 with the hire of Pruitt and the radical shift in program focus. Richt made himself over. Are we willing to throw that out the window? Eason will be gone. Pruitt might very well be gone, and we’ll have the next big name, who very well might NOT be the next big thing. I really, really, really think we’re frustrated because Bama is so close geographically, but they are the outlier in the conference.

          Take a look at the last two years at blowout losses by teams in our league:

          A & M Losses
          2014
          17 to MSU
          15 to Ole Miss
          59-0 by Bama
          2013
          24 to LSU (with Johnny Football on your team)

          Ole Miss Losses
          2015 – 28 on Saturday to Florida
          2014
          30-0 by Arkansas
          42-3 by TCU
          2013
          25-0 by Bama
          14 to Mizzou

          Mizzou
          2014
          34-0 by UGA
          29 to Bama
          2013
          17 to Auburn

          Auburn
          2014
          15 to MSU
          27 to UGA
          2013
          14 to LSU

          UF
          2014
          21 to Bama
          29 to Mizzou
          2013
          19 to Mizzou
          17 to Vandy
          30 to FSU

          LSU
          2014
          34 to Auburn
          17-0 by Arkansas
          2013
          21 to Bama

          So, what’s the answer? Why can’t LSU figure it out? Why can’t Florida or A&M? Why can’t Auburn, who seems willing to cheat to figure it out? A better question that is worth considering is…How has Bama been able to avoid the huge blowout losses in a league filled with good teams who regularly suffer blowout losses? That’s a good question for discussion.

          But, to ask, “Why does UGA wet the bed with these blowout faceplants when everyone else doesn’t” simply isn’t accurate. What I see is that every other program seems to do it no matter who their coach is. What I see is that Saban has figured something out the rest of us haven’t. I think I (and more importantly Richt and Pruitt) know what that is. I think suffocating Defense, a super-talented roster and an offense that doesn’t make mistakes is the answer. I think that’s what we’re working toward (and why Lambert started over Ramsey in the first place).

          I look at the coaches in the Top 25 and can’t see anyone outside of Meyer and Urban that I know could do it. And a bunch of them I think would fail because they’d actually have to play real competition (I’m looking at you Big 12 and Big 10 coaches). Maybe get another shot at them. Who knows? What do know is that we lost a game and the guys inside B-M are trying to figure out how to win the next one.

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          • Biggus Rickus

            1) I don’t think Sumlin, Freeze, Miles and Malzahn are any better coaches than Richt. 2) Florida fired their coach. Why on earth would you use them in your example? 3) Ole Miss and Missouri have nothing like the advantages these other programs have. Why are you including them? 4) A 14 or even 17 point loss isn’t necessarily a blowout. Context matters. For example, say Georgia played even remotely well against Alabama and was down 24-17 with about 6 minutes left, then drove down to the Alabama 20, where Alabama recovered a fumble and returned it for a TD. Would you say they were blown out? 5) It’s not simply a matter of Georgia suffering blowout losses. Nearly everyone does at some point. It’s that they happen pretty much annually. Even Will Muschamp managed to get through a season without being blown out, and he thought offense was the Devil’s work. 6) Georgia also loses close games to inferior teams too often. They did it twice last year and were blown out by an inferior team for good measure. 3 times in 2013. 2012 is the outlier to most of Georgia’s issues, so it didn’t happen that year. Twice in 2011. A lot in 2010. Maybe it’s unfair to go back that far, but we’re looking at trends. They’ll lose a game or two more this year and not go to Atlanta again despite having the most talent in the division.

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            • to the same point. an 11 point loss could really have been a blowout. 2008.

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            • Otto

              1) I disagree on others being a better coach in that the others didn’t keep their CWM or CTG around. They change their staff and/or style of play to fit their talent. Richt seems unable to change style of play and is overly loyal to his coaches.

              Freeze slowed down their play calling last year to play to their defense. LSU has had a revolving door at OC partially due to an OC with an illness and has hired at DC. Ole Miss is doing very well given their historical performance, A&M is as well. UF fired and is rebuilding, Auburn has shown they will do the same (and play for if not win a title). Malzahn over his career has shown willingness to adapt to a pocket passer or a running QB.

              2) UGA has more advantages to their program (funding, access to talent) than Ole Miss, Miss St, Mizzou, and even UT. Bama, UF, LSU, and eventually A&M are on the same level as UGA as far average strength of the program and ability to regularly compete for titles.

              3) Richt barring a full Chizik melt down will not be fired this year. I give this season and at minimum 2 more unless he drops 3 consecutive games to GT or mixes in a Ga. Southern loss. I fully expect to see him keep floating around with 9 to 10 wins. He will likely at some point talent into a title just as Mack Brown did. The scary thing is after that, 8 win seasons will be more acceptable at UGA. I don’t blame Texas for letting Mack go and am a bit surprised to Strong struggle this much. However, I doubt Mack would be doing much better.

              I wouldn’t be surprised if UGA falls to UT or UK this year but beats a UF team to go to Atlanta only to be exposed again.

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          • dudemankind

            Yes. Let’s throw it out the window, turn the car around and run over it…repeatedly.

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      • lakedawg

        Biggus, believe you would make an excellent volunteer fan, Bama should never lose a football game, They have gotten the best HS football players in the country for 9 years in a row. We can not compete with them until we are at that same recruiting level and I personally believe we are getting closer. Man just stay home if you are so dissatisfied.

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        • Biggus Rickus

          I said repeatedly before the game that I just wanted Georgia to play well, regardless of the outcome. I understood that Georgia could play well and still lose, because Alabama is really good. However, they could have won that game 60-3 if they wanted to. Do you honestly believe the disparity is that large?

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    • Dog in Fla

      “Anyone who read the article quoting Rush Propst had to raise an eyebrow”

      So true

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    • RocketDawg

      Excellent post. In our instant society people want things NOW, not in a week or month or year. It pains me to see a generation of people walking around with their noses in a smartphone that literally can’t see past the end of their nose.

      I am not happy about Saturday but the great thing about it is we get another chance to play this week against a UT team wearing fake juice uniforms.

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    • charlottedawg

      First off, i would never want Georgia to lose or have a crappy season just to prove a point or to a coach i didn’t like fired. I liked Richt, I’ve desperately wanted to see him shut up the critics for years.

      To your first point, It’s not that we lost to Bama. It’s the fact that this last week was another data point in a very long list of games under Richt where we looked like the cupcake paid to show up and get their ass kicked. Yes all those schools you mentioned have lost games by 14+ points the last couple of years.We’ve done it for ten straight. From 2006 on we lost a game badly (14+points) &/or lost at least 5 games for the season. That’s like getting an f on ten straight report cards.

      I don’t know exactly how the seasons going to go from here on out but it’ll definitely be within these bands. Either the team completely falls apart (probably not, at least i hope so). Or in a best case scenario, it’s indeed 2012 again and we cobble together 6-7 wins against a soft remaining schedule. We will lose to the much more talented west champ. It might be closebut it will be an L. And the reason is simple: Richt can’t put together a good enough team to be a legitimate contender in the sec. He’s a poor man’s Phil Fulmer and Mack BMack sans a championship. This is the ceiling for our program.

      Some people are fine with this, hence the “who would be better argument? “. I’m not, that’s just the way I’m wired. I’m not ok accepting less than what i know my alma mater ‘s program is capable of achieving. To me that’s the same type of defeatist attitude that keeps people in crappy relationships anddeadend careers. Crossing changes ate fraught with peril. I get it. But at done point you have to rerecognize what we have in place isn’t working and a change is imperative. I’ll risk wandering the wilderness trying to find the promised land rather than certain death as a slave to pharoah. Btw auburn and Florida went through the wilderness since mark Richt took over and they’ve played in more bcs bowls and national championship games than we have.

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      • charlottedawg

        Should say “like Richt” as in present tense.

        Should say ” to get a coach i didn’t like fired ”

        Crossing changes -> coaching change

        Bmack -> Brown

        Finally before I get flamed with “look how bad the UT’s are now!!” . I get it. But it doesn’t change the fact those school’s needed to make a change even if they screwed up the subsequent replacement hire.

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        • Dog in Fla

          Mack BMack was why he got fired

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        • sUGArdaddy

          I’m with you that sometimes change is needed, but…

          No A.D. in America fires Richt. Not. A. Single. One. Chizk went 0-8 in the league. Fulmer had a losing record in 2 of his last 4 years, including 5-7 his last season. Mack Brown went 5-7, 8-5, 9-4, then 8-5. And Brown’s firing was pushing the edge for most ADs. Shula had just gone 6-6 at Bama.

          That’s why this talk is ridiculous. What is a better question is to ask yourself…

          -Does our guy and what we’re seeing more closely resemble Brown/Fulmer/Chizk or Osborne/Bowden/Dooley?

          I happen to think it looks A LOT more like the latter than the former. If we start going 6-6, missing bowls and reeling off 8-5 seasons like they’re successes, I’ll be all with you. To this point, even in the last 7 years, we had one 6-7 and 2 8-5s. We are coming of 3 of 4 years of 10+ wins…and you think there’s another A.D. in the country that’s going to make the change. You can not like it, but that’s just not how Athletic Administrators work. That’s because they know it’s pretty darn difficult to win 10 games in this league.

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          • Otto

            Florida fired Zook after never having a loosing season. Cooper’s worst season at Ohio St was .500 (only 1) . Bama let Curry go after 10 wins.

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          • Otto

            Osborne’s worst season was 9-3, Bowden wasn’t handed a top shelf program had 10+ wins from ’87-2000. I don’t see comparisons between Richt and Osborne or Bowden.

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    • Debby Balcer

      Thank you! Most fans seem to feel you only go to games to watch your team win. Fans go to watch their team play. They support them. They are in the game not walking out. We drove two hours in rain to come and drove two hours back in harder rain to watch the DAWGS play. I was glad more of our students stayed then the people around me. If we had not played Brice I garauntee

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      • Debby Balcer

        Hit post accidently I would be hearing complaining about leaving Lambert in. It is one game not the season. The attitude our fan base has hurts us in recruiting. I saw my eye dr today, a Clemson fan, I congratulated him on his team’s win and he said thanks but they have the rest of the season to play. People need to step back and realize that it is one game at a time. That game was painful to watch but we start over next week. GO DAWGS!!

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  43. dudemankind

    Is there anybody on here today who didn’t cringe before we snapped the ball to punt deep in our territory in the 2nd quarter? Were any among you surprised that it was blocked?

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    • Aunt Edna

      To echo the point made in the original post, there wasn’t a lot of anger in my section when it happened. I mostly heard people chuckle and saw them throw up their hands. You can only see this stuff happen so many times before you just learn to laugh and give up. A special teams miscue was to be expected.

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      • I told folks that I had no expectations heading into this game, but that was a lie. I expected at least one special teams meltdown.

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        • Tired old Dog

          Were you in the line for the restroom at the same time I was? Not a single person was surprised the kick was blocked for a TD. Actually, nobody even CARED. That is where our program is now, as Blutarsky coined it “comfortable apathy”.

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  44. 69Dawg

    It’s amazing that after so many years most of our fans with the help of the media that blows smoke to get paid still drink the preseason Kool-Aid. Its like we are untrainable or have memory loss. Whats the old quote.. those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. It the Georgia way. Every year everything is coming up roses until we wet the bed. I think the players really believe the BS that the coaches give them about how great UGA is. Why else would they be poking the bear (BAMA) before the game. I know you have to “play with confidence” but it’s better to play with heart. Nick Chubb ran harder in this game than any I have seen. He had no help from his line or his fullbacks. The BAMA d line was tackling the blockers and the runners. If you are totally delusional and think that we had players as good as BAMA you are part of the problem not the solution. Georgia get the players BAMA doesn’t want. We get the flashy they get the grinders. Their grinders beat the hell out of our flash. The weather was a huge factor for a really simple reason our team depends on speed theirs doesn’t. The wet field erased the only real advantage we might have had. Let’s just take an our ass kicking like men and quit whining. Their team was at least better than us. The UF loss last year was the worst in years and was totally unexpected this one was predictable save for the Kool-Aid.

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  45. SWGAdAWG

    Probably the same number of times we keep coming back to here you talk about not showing up. We are tired of it…it sucks….but we come back again because that’s not all you do. You have lots of entertaining stuff. And according to you exactly one half of the teams that play every week “don’t show up”. I had many games where I have gotten stomped and I showed up with all I had. But it keeps us coming back apparently

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