As the old saying goes…

… when you have two quarterbacks, you don’t really have a quarterback.

And I’m not sure Brian Schottenheimer has a quarterback right now.

“Our whole thing has been Greyson starts all the games. We did not really talk seriously about Faton. Those other two guys had had the majority of work (in practice),” Schottenheimer said. “But we know one thing about Faton, if we call upon him I’m certainly very, very confident that he’ll go out there and play very well. But we expect the other two guys, starting with Greyson, to perform better. That’s their job, that’s their role, and I think they’ll bounce back this week and do that for us.”

It was already known that Lambert would start his sixth straight game. Ramsey has also appeared in every game, including in the first half for all but one game. The idea, Schottenheimer sad, is to give Ramsey “meaningful snaps.” That shouldn’t affect Lambert’s psyche, he added, because he’s been through a snap-sharing arrangement before, last year at Virginia.

“We believe in competition. But like I said Greyson doesn’t need to look over his shoulder in terms of who’s starting the game,” Schottenheimer said. “Greyson needs to worry about going out there, moving the team. He knows Brice is gonna come in at some point. And a guy like Faton has just gotta be ready. … Nothing’s changed. That’s the thing that we believe in. That rotation is what it is, and that’s the way it looks moving forward.”

Or as Schottenheimer put it at another point: “It’s not just about his performance. There’s a plan for Brice to play.”

Ramsey went 1-for-6 with two interceptions against Alabama, though Schottenheimer said one of those picks – the one returned for a touchdown – was a good throw. Head coach Mark Richt has described the play as a “miscommunication.”

“The thing about Brice when he goes in there is, Hey make good decisions. The talent’s there obviously,” Schottenheimer said. “Brice’s deal is whenever he gets inserted he just wants to go in there and move the team. There’s no special secret or way of moving the ball. … He’s done that for the most part this season.”

Jeez, what a roller coaster ride we’re on this season.

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  1. mikebozo

    Sounds like Schotty is full of shit

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  2. mikebozo

    If it is not about performance then what is it about?

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    • Normaltown Mike

      the swimsuit competition?

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      • mikebozo

        If it is not about Ramsey’s performance then it can’t be about Bauta’s either. Either Schotty is totally lost or full of shit.

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        • Could it be that a lack of maturity is new to Schottenheimer? Maybe a 25 year old with a cannon arm trying to earn a living is a different animal than a 21 year old with a cannon arm that has limited hours to practice.

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        • Irwin R. Fletcher

          Dear Coaches-

          We want you to be like Nick Saban…except when you talk to the press…and then we expect you to treat it like you are under oath giving testimony in front of the court because we ‘deserve’ the 100% truth from you guys as Georgia fans and who cares if other programs can read and dissect that information.

          Signed-

          Lunatic Fringe

          It’s like you guys have never seen coach-speak before. Gimmie a break.

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  3. Will Trane

    Eason can not wait to get to Athens if he reads that.
    Fly him in to watch.

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  4. Will Trane

    If Keith Marshall is healed up. Has speed. Why do CMR and the OC not use him in some formation at the times Chubb or Michel are in…say a shotgun with either of those guys to the side and Marshall on the wing.

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  5. simpl_matter

    Bama has problems with mobile QBs, Faton is our most mobile QB, what could it have hurt….

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    • adam

      He is also the worst passer. And he’s clearly not the special as a runner or we would have seen that by now.

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      • Cosmic Dawg

        Which of Bauta’s game passing stats are you referring to?

        Because in actual games, Ramsey, who apparently (unlike the rest of the players) has the luxury of not having to worry about such petty details as “performance”, and for whom CMR and CBS have “a plan”, has the worst passing stats.

        And we have not seen that Bauta is a special runner or a special passer or a special leader because we have not seen Bauta at all. So nothing about this is “clearly” anything, except that CBS is “clearly” at a loss about how to pilot this offense.

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      • mikebozo

        Based on what? Richt or Schotty’s say so. Let us judge since neither one of them can.

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  6. Bulldog Joe

    The only times I’ve seen a two QB situation work is when they have complementary skill sets and clearly-defined roles. We don’t have it here.

    A team functions better when they know who the on-field leader is.

    This is mealy-mouthed bullshit.

    A far cry from “Let ‘er rip!”.

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  7. Theotherdoug

    WTF?

    He should have never talked to the media.

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    • Macallanlover

      Yes, that falls under the “better to have others think you are a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt”. That was a dumb, contradictory statement, and makes even less sense after what unfolded Saturday. I get it, Lambert is the QB that gives us the best chance to win (unless the ball is wet), but don’t tell me FB is behind what we have seen Ramsey do. I don’t care how far he can throw it.

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      • Cosmic Dawg

        Many of our rivals will enjoy the guilty pleasure of Schottenfreude before we get rid of this guy.

        “It’s not just about his performance….”

        “The thing about Brice when he goes in there is, he makes good decisions…”

        None of us will ever root against Georgia, of course, but I can see Georgia football being much less a priority for me for however long it takes for us to bounce this crew…this is really depressing, and I’m naturally geared to be a Disney Dawg.

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        • You’ve misunderstood Schottenheimer’s point about Ramsey. “The thing about Brice when he goes in there is, Hey make good decisions.” doesn’t mean he thinks Ramsey’s making good decisions; it’s that Ramsey needs to make good decisions and he isn’t.

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          • Cosmic Dawg

            I also misunderstood his quote about performance – he was referring to Lambert, not Ramsey when he said “it’s not about (Lambert’s) performance, there is a plan for Brice to play.”

            The other stuff stands, but at least I don’t think CBS is a nut.

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    • Dolly Llama

      Exactly my thought, otherdoug. Richt needs to take his media-talking privileges away.

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  8. Jeff Sanchez

    There is a breakdown by one of the analysts on the Rivals site that has several still shots of receivers open all over the field and Lambert is just not seeing them.

    I don’t know if it made me feel better that we actually had people open (and thus Schotty didn’t call as bad a game as I thought) or worse that we’re kinda stuck with this QB situation (though one can hope GL will improve along the way)

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    • Macallanlover

      I didn’t see that in watching the game a second time, not saying at some point they weren’t open but Alabama did an excellent job at covering the short routes and that was often all we had time for. I think Lambert is OK, and much, much better than what has brought out behind him.

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      • How the hell could you watch that game twice?

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        • Macallanlover

          You sound like my wife, she left the house on some made up errand run. I wouldn’t have suffered through it but I was looking for some of the things that have been brought up by fans to see if they were right, and to see if they looked correctable or were just solitary events based on an extraordinary opponent, or the weather. Twas painful.

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    • ClydeBoogie

      My son told me Goodwin was open alot.

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  9. Argondawg

    We have known since G-day that we were lacking a stud at QB. How did the staff not see this? With what we have how do you not sign a QB in the last class? With Mason graduating that was a wide open spot. This is a 9-3 or 8-4 campaign this year. Which is what I expected over the summer. A win Saturday will help but this is a season we have to survive not a season where we thrive.

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  10. Will Trane

    Every time we play UT I can remember back in the day my acceptance for admission. UGA was better and no out of state tuition, plus a scholarship.
    Concern about UT. Their cut tackles. Bet Marshall remembers that too.
    This will be a tough game for the Dawgs. Lot of people are going with the Vols.
    Dawgs have a few rivals, but this is the team I like for them to beat, more than Tech or Florida. Looking to see what the guys out of Norcross do, plus Mitchell and Rome out of VHS.

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    • Macallanlover

      “Lot of people are going with the Vols” What a crock of shit, how many and how does that “many” compare with the “many” placing money on the Dawgs? Not that it proves anything but bets placed so far on the site I look at had 69% of the bets on UGA and 31% on the Vols, and the line had moved from -2 1/2 at the open, and -3 currently indicating money coming in on UGA has resulted in an increase of points for the Vols to help balance the money. One thing to not get football, another to lie about the facts to make yourself appear credible. Here is another hot tip you can use: there will be more fans rooting for TN in the stadium on Saturday in Knoxville. Tell all the other kids at school tomorrow. Is that an omen? We need to try and keep it simple for folks like you..

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  11. charlottedawg

    Wait, wait, wait, i could’ve sworn based on the comments here in August that the reason the qb battle was so protracted was because both greyson and brice were so awesome the coaches couldn’t figure who to play. It was definitely not because all the guys on the roster sucked which is why we took an acc retread in the first place.

    Hell why stop there when talking about delusional narratives with no basis in fact.

    Really glad to see how much more prepared we looked than Bama in the rain because we practiced in it and poor Alabama was confined to their indoor practice facility. Never mind that the the team with the IPF can elect to go outside and the team without one can’t elect to go inside.

    And for the kicker, Mark Richt had secretly fired Grantham.

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    • Merk

      Well, most of that is because we rarely got to see Ramsey play. Thus, we assumed with Richt’s and Bobo’s ability to make Cox and Mason look like decent QBs, that a guy with a rocket arm would be easy for them to mold. However, it appears that nothing has occur in that way, of course at the same time, we have typically only seen Ramsey in mop up duty or for his 1 series for the first half.

      Who knows, maybe if Ramsey was starting the whole time, then he could be getting better at reading Defenses and making better throws. Maybe Ramsey is just a crappy QB with a damn good arm. The fact that we are unsure of the capabilities of a guy who has been here 3 years is just stupid.

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  12. Will Trane

    If Eason commits, makes you wonder where the junior QB at McEchaeran goes. That guy can let it fly, and plays with a lot of poise and emotion. He has said he wants to come to Athens. No doubt QB is a big void in 2016. These guys had better get their reps in now, more of the “epic loss” variety play and they move off the depth chart in 2016.

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  13. It is simple guys. The Dawgs are just not an elite team yet and Alabama proved that. Best Tennessee and move forward. Yes, the manner in which Bama beat the Dawgs is embarrassing, but that does not mean Lambert is less of a QB. The guy will be fine. Holy crap! Look at what ya’ll have done! You make me sound like a damn Dinsey Dawg!

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  14. Will Trane

    Other than “holding the ball” a tad too long on pass plays, he has the problem of looking over his shoulder. Somehow I missed that in the Vandy and Bama game, but that we guess that was his problem in those games.
    Good deal OC just signal in with the play no one is looking over your shoulder GL, plus find the TEs. After all the OC told a highly regarded TE prospect this past weekend in film study how he wants to use the TEs. No doubt after the Bama game those 2 were the only ones who knew the Dawgs even have them on a roster.

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  15. truck

    It’s the Jon Fabris method of QB rotation: “we enjoy the challenge!” We can still have a decent season, but I do suggest you buckle up folks: this season will not be dull!

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  16. Merk

    I still feel like he is just screwing Ramsey. I mean, there is no way knowing that you are only going to get 1-2 series a game to make an impression is not going to screw with you. Nor is being put in down several scores with no run game going at all going to help you.

    Thats absolutely great Lambert has no picks and has the completion record, however, sucking vs good defensive teams is not going to get us anywhere, especially not in the SEC.

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    • Could be the competition brought in to motivate Ramsey went sideways and wrecked any confidence he had. I remember reading about him saying he was bummed because he had finally got the old offense down cold before the change. Not saying he showed it last season…but confidence is important in a qb.

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    • What have you seen that indicates that Ramsey is trustworthy with the offense? Why would Richt screw with him? He’s had every chance to be the starter and he’s not gotten it. After Saturday, I’m surprised that there’s a chance we ever see him in a game again.

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      • Nothing. Maybe he felt comfortable with Bobo…and he missed that in his lone start. Then had to start over in the spring.

        Hey…I am not saying he looked great. But Jeff George was dumb as a rock AND a huge asshole, yet somehow managed to sling it around ok. Maybe Bobo was better at tailoring the Offense to what the QB is capable of than he was given credit for.

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      • Merk

        I guess my issue is that I feel its hard to judge Ramsey. Yes he has looked bad, but my point is that he was not exactly given great opportunities either. Clearly if we were able to see practice and Ramsey was constantly doing exactly what he has done in the games by making poorly thought throws, then I would have no problem with him on the sidelines. However, we really don’t know and if he was playing that poorly in practice, then I can’t really imagine them trying to insert him in the game plan just to have him in there.

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  17. kckd

    So from 2002-2004 David Greene wasn’t our QB when Shock wasn’t hurt?

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    • Congrats on finding the exception that proves the rule.

      Besides, Rolo would tell you that Georgia only had one good QB on the roster back then. 😉

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      • kckd

        For the most part, it’s being managed almost exactly the same way as it was then. Or IMO, considering Ramsey’s showing Saturday, will be managed that way from here on out.

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  18. JT (the other one)

    Sigh. Lots of comparisons to other 2 system QB’s but in this case…it doesn’t compare. We really do need to decide on one guy. Leaving Lambert out in the 3rd proved to be disastrous.

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  19. Spike

    Why not give Bauta a shot? After what those other two did last week?

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  20. RocketDawg

    We’re fucked…..

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