A fine mess: about Schottenheimer

This ain’t working.

And by “this”, I don’t mean Brian Schottenheimer’s playcalling.  I know that’s the most visible part of an offensive coordinator’s job, and the part we tend to latch onto when it comes time for praise and/or criticism, but that wasn’t the problem with yesterday’s offensive… eh, I don’t even know what to call it.

I mean, think about it:  Jay Rome should have scored twice; Malcolm Mitchell should have caught a touchdown pass; Sony Michel should have opened the game with a big gain out of the wildcat.  None of that transpired because of shortcomings in execution – drops, a ball that wasn’t thrown well enough to lead Mitchell and an obvious holding call on Hicks.  I can’t say that making those plays as they were drawn up would have been good enough for the win, but it damned sure would have kept the game competitive.

I also can’t blame a guy for thinking that his offensive line can block well enough to convert a third-and-one situation.  At least once, anyway.

I don’t fault Schottenheimer for the decision to start Bauta, either.  It’s not panic to think the offense needed a spark to jump-start it after what had transpired in the three previous games.

But that’s as far as my absolution takes me here, because in every other phase of an OC’s job description, Schottenheimer’s been awful.

Start with the Bauta decision.  You’ve got a kid you lacked sufficient confidence in to name as the starter to begin the season, and you hand him the ball mid-season to run the same sputtering crap that caused you to make the change at QB in the first place, instead of trying to structure the gameplan to take specific advantage of his skill set.  Not only that, but you don’t even have enough confidence in your decision to give him all the reps with the ones during bye week preparation.  The end result was predictable.  Timing issues with the receivers.  Inconsistent mechanics.  A poor feel for how much time there was to hold on to the ball.  (Bauta didn’t help his cause with a stubborn refusal to know when to throw a ball away, admittedly.)  Progression reads that came and went.

You didn’t do the kid any favors, in other words.  Especially against an above-average defense that’s got a half-season of the SEC wars under its belt.

That’s just part of the bigger picture of failure at quarterback development.  That may be where Georgia misses Mike Bobo most.  None of the three quarterbacks has shown any progression this season.  Indeed, all the faults Bauta showed that I catalogued aren’t anything unique to him this season.  Lambert and Ramsey have also been guilty of the same.  One quarterback, maybe it’s the kid.  All three?  That’s on the position coach.

And some of that goes back to what I fretted about in the preseason.  I get that some of what happened after the spring had to do with the coaches trying to find a way to motivate Ramsey, but at some point, you’ve got to make a decision and go with it.  By waiting so late to decide on Lambert as the starter, he robbed the offense of time it needed to gel together. That’s a large part of what’s made the offense sputter.

The other huge area where things have flopped is in overall game planning/offensive philosophy.  Richt looked at the strength and weakness of his 2015 offense and thought pursuing a similar approach that worked for Georgia’s in 2014 would be the ticket.  All well and good.  And hiring a run-oriented pro-style coordinator like Schottenheimer also made sense. The problem has been that in 2014 the offense had a passing game threat it could sell, albeit on a limited basis.  There wasn’t a real downfield threat, but Mason’s ability to avoid turnovers combined with a high completion rate meant there was still something for opposing defenses to account for in loading the box.

Fast forward to now.  There isn’t a quarterback within spitting distance of Mason’s completion rate.  Lambert’s been lucky with turnovers, but overall, Georgia’s quarterbacks have been poor protecting the ball.  And combined, what that’s meant is that defenses can ignore Georgia’s passing game with impunity.  Which is exactly what the Gators did yesterday.

Schottenheimer’s problem is that he lacks the creativity to work around the problem.  Georgia wants to be a run-first offense, but that identity has been taken away.  Schottenheimer is clearly not comfortable using the pass to set up the run; there’s an inconsistency in taking what defenses are giving him.

So we’re now at a point where the offense doesn’t work – that’s almost an understatement – and there’s no reason to think the offensive coordinator’s got any real strategy to climb out of the hole he’s helped dig.  If you think I’m being overly dramatic, consider that as you read this, the coaches have no idea who starts at quarterback against Kentucky, and worse, none of the choices look particularly attractive.

That’s what I mean by this ain’t working.  And I don’t see how it’s gonna get fixed any time soon.

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  1. We’ve officially landed at second tier.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      A 5-17 record against ranked teams dating back to around ’10 tells me we’ve been second tier for quite a while now.

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      • IAmAChubbyMan

        That sounds like third tier.

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        • Chi-town Dawg

          The biggest dose of reality I heard yesterday was when one of the sports analysts referred to Georgia as “the Auburn of the SEC East. They had a strong returning team on paper and were picked by a bunch of us to win the SEC East against a number of weaker teams and they’ve done nothing but disappoint everyone. Their performance today against a rebuilding Florida team was an embarrassment.” The fact that it was some guy named “Booger” only adds insult to injury although I don’t know that things could be any worse after that UF beat down.

          I’ve been in the keep CMR camp and give him a chance to show what he can do, but at this point my patience has run out. The fact that a rebuilding FL team with a new coach/staff, recruiting classes ranked below ours the past several years and a patch work offense line can put a better product on the field tells me something is rotten in Athens.

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          • Auburn has a national title in the last 10 years.

            We’re worse than Auburn.

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            • Will (the other one)

              Plus 2 SEC titles in the last decade, and when their starting QB sucked, they replaced him and the replacement is playing better now. (It’s the last part that really bugs me. Auburn sucked, but is playing a lot better now than a month ago. Meanwhile the Dawgs with Chubb got held to under 4 ypc in the first half against an FBS school and it took another month before the consensus of a good offensive line for the team finally went away.)

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            • Chi-town Dawg

              Agree with you Muck, but I think the point Booger McFarland and others (Dennis Dood) are making is that UGA has been a major disappointment this year much like Auburn has been as well. Both teams were selected to win their divisions, expected to be top 10 teams and in Auburn’s case compete for a NC in the eyes of many sports pundits. Neither team has come close to reaching those expectations this year as Booger emphatically pointed out.

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    • Bobby Bowden Syndrome

      Next year is the year!

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    • Buddha

      All I can say about the GA-FL game yesterday is that I’m glad I didn’t step in it.

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    • Bulldog Joe

      All of the observations made above are true.

      However, replacing Schottenheimer alone does not solve the repeated mistakes on special teams.

      It does not solve the repeated attempts to catch punts inside our 10 yard line. it does not solve repeated attempts to run kickoffs out of the back of our end zone. It does not solve the free field position surrendered by the refusal to kick the ball into the end zone. It does not solve the tolerance, acceptance, and love given to players who loaf.

      Replacing Schottenheimer alone does not solve the disengagement of the head coach and lack of adjustments during games. It does not solve the repeated foolish penalties made by our upperclassmen. It does not solve the tolerance and acceptance of a game plan which contains no logic. It does not solve the lack of confidence and motivation exhibited on our sideline in big games.

      Replacing Schottenheimer alone only guarantees continued failure.

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      • gastr1

        The thing that has struck me about this situation is that some in the past said that Schottenheimer never had a good QB to work with. Now, here again, QB play is a real issue in his offense. You begin to think the same things the Senator suggests, i.e., Schottenheimer and QBs are not a good mix, somehow. Really not a good track record for your future as an OC.

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        • Bulldog Joe

          A college offense is not made up of professionals whose livelihood is dependent on their performance on the field.

          Unless they are playing for their NFL draft position like Malcolm Mitchell, you can not assume they are self-motivated like the NFL players are.

          Someone on the field has to be responsible for providing leadership and motivation for the rest of the offense and get onto guys who are loafing.

          Switching out QBs not only robs the team of valuable reps in getting the timing and communication correct, it also robs the QB of his on-field authority.

          That said, the problem at Georgia goes far beyond Schottenheimer. For example, Godwin earned the punt return spot last week. Why are we still trying to make everyone happy?

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      • DawgByte

        Correct. For the life of me I can’t figure out why Richt doesn’t place more importance on Special Teams. As we’ve all seen during Richt’s tenure, Special Teams have been the difference between wins and losses. Davis’ flub at the 5 yard line is just one more example of why this program needs a single accountable coach in charge of Special Teams with the decision making authority to have whoever they want on ST’s.

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        • gastr1

          I think you can make a reasonable assumption that coaching, under this staff, won’t solve the issue no matter who they bring in.

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          • Gaskilldawg

            Yes, a full time coach saying, “Don’t drop it ” would have the same impact as a part time coach saying, “Don’t drop it.”
            Also, our kick coverage was good, too.

            Not having a full-time special teams coach did not cost us the game.

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    • roswelldawg

      I said that we would lose by 30. I was a touchdown off. I am not happy that my prediction of the loss was accurate; nor am I happy with the pedestrian offense I saw on the field. Four picks = loss. Wow……..this may be the worst four game stretch in GA football in a long time…..

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    • Distraught in Dalton

      The cardinal rule, always, primum non nocere (first, do no harm.) Shott makes me really miss Bobo.

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    • No Country 4 Old Dawgs

      Schottenheimer is a serviceable OC, not great, but average to good. His decade of employment in the NFL wasn’t a complete fluke. The above list of grievances fall squarely on Richt. After all Schottenheimer is a first year player on Richt’s ship and appears as open to Richt’s tutelage and input as Bobo was. Richt can step back into the huddle anytime he wants.

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  2. It’s almost like what literally EVERYONE outside the UGA program said about Schotty is true.

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    • Yup, now I believe all those NY and St. Louis fans. I was really hoping they were wrong.

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      • We had fun sitting back and laughing at the Louisville fans once they finally started to realize everything we said about Grantham was true.

        If any of them care enough to pay attention, I’m sure the Rams and Jets fans are getting the same smug enjoyment out of watching us.

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  3. Rpcpisme

    Perhaps the “new” Richt will pull the trigger sooner and find a new OC at the conclusion of the season?

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  4. gastr1

    I hate to say this: no games the rest of the way are gimmes. This team could
    end up with a 6-6 record if we can beat Georgia Southern. I know it probably sounds like one of those “the sky is falling” comments, but I think I’m being rational about this.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      You’re certainly being rational, as the season is now a disaster with the team in the midst of a death spiral. Based on yesterday’s performance, 6-6 isn’t out of the question at all.

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      • Dolly Llama

        I can take anything except losing to Tech. If that happens, I’ll have both feet on the Fire Richt Bandwagon. (I’ve already got one foot on it.)

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      • Mayor

        No, 3rdie. 5-7 is in definitely play. Georgia Southern smells blood. I’m telling you–this is Georgia Southern’s big chance to finally show up their big brother in Athens and they will come to town in a frenzy to do that. And there is precedent–the Eagles beat FU 2 years ago in Gainesville.

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      • roswelldawg

        I thought Schotty was weird; now I know why.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      You are. The offense is a mess, and all of those teams have enough offense to score some points against what is a decent, but not great defense. Now, I expect Georgia will do enough to win at least the Georgia Southern game, but I won’t be shocked if they lose out.

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      • Will (the other one)

        Actually, based on the advanced stats, GA Southern is the best team left on the schedule (Kentucky is the worst, ranking behind Vandy. If the Dawgs can’t score TDs on Kentucky, 5-7 is very much in play.)

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    • I don’t think it’s a sky is falling comment at all. We better be ready when GSU comes to town because the Eagles would love nothing more than to do a ULM/Alabama to us.

      No matter the execution or the talent, a loss in that game would be unforgivable for the entire staff (Pruitt included).

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      • adam

        There’s a very real chance we lose one of those games like 10-3 with the opposing team getting all of their points off of Georgia mistakes and our 3 points coming after an interception.

        The defense came to play yesterday and got no support from the other two phases of the game. The defense isn’t bad and has potential. The offense is an absolutely disaster and special teams are generally terrible.

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  5. Grathams replacement

    Totally agree. The OL is below average as well. Richt is responsible for all of it, poor recruiting , poor gameplanning and lack of execution. But how about the special teams………

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    • Athens Townie

      This all falls on Richt. This is his underperforming program. These are his lackluster results. We’re out of excuses. We’ve been out of excuses.

      We can moan about this coordinator or that coordinator. But the buck stops with the commander-in-chief.

      At least we can finally put to rest our anxiety about people like Mandel excluding us from “national power” football programs.

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      • W Cobb Dawg

        Agree. If we’re blaming Schotty & any other assistants, the question should be asked WTF does Richt do?? Pruitt handles the defense. CMR certainly doesn’t bother coaching STs. And if Schotty runs the O, what’s left for the HC? CMR doesn’t do much recruiting. Pruitt has handled almost all the recent hires. Obviously, game planning and motivation aren’t taking up CMR’s time. Coaching fundamentals – give me a break!

        So again, my very serious question is: WTF does CMR do with his time?

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      • lakedawg

        Athens Techie you go to all extremes to down the Dawgs and coach Richt.

        Just speak for yourself and quit using this we shit!

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  6. Scorpio Jones, III

    C’mon Bluto, all the coaching decisions were not bad….Ramsey had a good game….as a punter.

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  7. Scorpio Jones, III

    Did the sun come up…can’t tell for sure…heavy overcast. Nashville or Charlotte? I kinda like Charlotte.

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  8. Dave

    Scotty = Martinez? Take over for a stud coordinator and promptly run the unit into the ground?

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  9. Blake Barnes

    I never wanted to know what a whole season of 2010 UGA-USC games would look like, yet here we are.

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  10. WarD Eagle

    Give it a few weeks. You guys will play AU and all will be well.

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    • Dolly Llama

      That’ll be like watching two mules fight over a turnip, sure enough. Three-legged mules. Blind ones.

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      • Scorpio Jones, III

        Nice analogy Dolly…in fact horrifically true.

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        • Mayor

          Nope. I watch a lot of college football and have seen Auburn play at least 4 games. The Dawgs would have beaten Auburn at the beginning of the season. But Auburn has gotten better and this Georgia team has gotten worse and cannot beat the current Auburn team. Auburn will win handily.

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          • Uglydawg

            This is true. Two teams moving in opposite directions..one out of the mire and one into it.

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            • Bulldog Joe

              I will say this about Gus:

              As goofy as he looks at times, he is engaged in coaching and motivating his team throughout the game.

              He is working the refs and communicating his satisfaction and dissatisfaction to his players from the get-go.

              An otherwise less-than-motivated player will respond to this and not assume the head coach is quietly approving of his effort.

              It’s an important reason Auburn is improving and we are not.

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              • lakedawg

                Would be game for a little wager on who wins more games this Dawgs or Barners. Their band wagon fans are a close second to our band wagon fans.

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    • Turd Ferguson

      Ha! Auburn will win easily. No contest.

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  11. SAtownDawg

    The first question is how and why he was hired in the first place, especially at that salary…you could have literally found 20 to 25 NFL OCs who were more successful in the league, in addition to numerous college OCs who would have jumped at the chance to coach at UGA…CBS had two weeks to gameplan and that was what he came up with…the second question is whether Richt will admit the mistake and get rid of him at the end of the year

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  12. Who Hired Shottenheimer? Who was responsible for vetting his creative abilities if Plan A went south?

    The same person who is responsible for special teams play, motivation and roster management. The same guy who needed his assistant Pruitt to go argue and get BM to give them the IPF and other things because he could not get it done himself.

    Does anyone truly believe that man is going be able to turn this train wreck around in the next season or two?

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  13. Apathetic in Charleston

    So my question is where do we go from here? Next year we have no O line to speak of, a severe lack of WRs, a freshman as qb as our best option, and potentially without a solid RB outside of Michel.

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  14. Yeah, Schotty stinks, but ultimately this is 100% on Richt. Many here like to remind everyone else how great Richt has been developing QBs over the last 15 years, but now that we have 3 guys who are inept at the position it is only Schotty’s fault? Nah. I don’t think so. Receivers can’t catch. Blockers can’t block, etc., etc. I thought they spent an entire bye week on fundamentals? That dog is past having fleas and now has the mange as well.

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  15. IAmAChubbyMan

    How about:

    “A fine mess: about RICHT
    This ain’t working.”

    Retard hired the man
    Retard won’t hire a special team coach
    Retard routinely gets steamrolled in games
    Retard is too focused on “love”
    Retard couldn’t fire his buddy Willie Martinez despite the obviously incompetence
    Retard has lost to any number of inferior teams over the last few years.
    Retard would have kept Todd Grantham around but got bailed out by Bobby Petrino

    Retard needs to go!

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  16. truck

    Hell, I’m not as shocked by the the QB debacle as I am by the total disappearance of push from our O line. What happened to all that experience, and where are results from the new S&C coach?

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    • Wes

      Theus has been horrible. He got man handled all day yesterday. Yet Danielson say he is top two in the sec. Not even serviceable. It so sad that in the 1st quarter when Sony went out I thought “what do we do now”. We don’t have any other weapons other than Mitchell and Mckenzie but they can’t throw it to themselves. What happens to all this talent? BAUTA also wasn’t the main problem but why when we are down 20 did we not see Lambert. Atleast try to get the ball down the field. Ramsey is a punter at the college level., not a qb.

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    • JC

      The OL play is a bigger disappointment to me than the QBs. We all knew there would be struggles with QBs, but the lack of push with the OL is confusing and frustrating.

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  17. Every member of the offensive coaching staff has some soul searching to do right now, and I include Richt in that list.
    CMR – Do you try to win now with this offense and try to play small ball or do you take a chance to see if Ramsey (the most talented) can take the reins? If you lose, you go down swinging and have the answer to your question.
    Schottenheimer – Small ball works in the NFL when you have no QB and can play defense. Are you willing to try something different?
    Sale – Are you going to shore up the right side? What have you done or not done to make this line regress so rapidly?
    B-Mac – Just because you’re an ace recruiter doesn’t give you the right to not have players ready. Mitchell and Godwin seem to be the only WR we have right now. Where are Stanley, Williams, and others? We NEVER attack the slot anymore.
    Lilly – Probably shoulders the least blame right now because he’s having to bring his guys in to help the tackles. Sorry to say, but Rome has been a bust on your watch.
    Brown – Why don’t you trust KM? He had 3 good runs, caught a ball and had a good blitz pick-up. He came out and never saw the field again. Even post-injury, he’s orders of magnitude better than Douglas. You’ve wasted what will likely be #4’s last season as a Bulldog.

    Vent over … Carry on 🙂

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    • Scorpio Jones, III

      Having no suitable answer at quarterback explains lots of problems with the offense. But I agree about Keef…obviously there is something going on with him we don’t see. Maybe Marshall is just biding his time.

      With no injuries, and fewer autographs, we could have Gurley, Marshall and Nick in the same rotation at running back…course that’s Richt’s fault, too.

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      • Scorp, regarding KM, I don’t think he’s biding his time. When he has gotten into games, he has made things happen. You don’t pick up some of the blitzes he has this year if you’re biding your time and getting ready to move on with whatever is next in life.

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        • Scorpio Jones, III

          I don’t doubt you are right about Marshall, I don’t understand either. When Nick went down, the next day I was thinking Keef would ease the pain in a big way…has not happened, and I really have no idea why.

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  18. McNease

    The offense is a disaster. There doesn’t seem to be a strategy. The run game lacks any creativity in both design and play calling. The passing game is hard to assess. What can you say about a smoking crater. All of the position units have regressed from last year.

    This is a mess, and it wasn’t before he got here.

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  19. DawgPhan

    4 games left to go this season and I dont felt very confident that we will win any of them. And we need to win them. I am also shocked at how bad the offense is and much I miss just Mason level QBing.

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  20. Orlando Dawg

    A farmer had 3 mules. He spent so much time obsessing over which one to harness up that he never plowed his field. The famine continued

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    • TennesseeDawg

      So he fired the 3 mules and brought in 3 more and still couldn’t figure it out. The famine continued

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      • Athens Townie

        Grasshopper Mark loves parables too.

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      • Bulldog Joe

        Then the landowner stepped in and recognized the farmer had been receiving his annual USDA subsidy and was not farming at all.

        The landowner evicted the farmer and the politician who supported him.

        The following year, the famine was eradicated.

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  21. Yes. And I feel like we’ve had this conversation before about poor coordinator/position coach hires. The impulse to “give them time to work these things out” feels like part of the problem now. And don’t forget that most of the development of Bauta and Ramsey should have occurred in the past two years. At some point, the program is the problem.

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  22. 80dawg

    Great summary on OC Senator.

    As to how the offense is fixed from this point forward, I read into your comments that you have little confidence that there is a plan or that Schotty is capable.

    Winners have a way of making the most out what they have and the rest rely on the occasional good fortune. Our team seems to be relying on hope instead of making the most of what they have.

    What is perplexing is not being able to get a first down from 2nd and one. It may be the shining example of your points. It was 2 bad plays called that were poorly executed.
    Do the players sense that they are being lead off a cliff and are hesitant or is our talent level too low to compete?

    Our talent level is not reflective of the recent results and we are left only to point at the coaches.

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  23. During the last 15 years, Richt has always been able to coach his back off the wall. 2006, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2014 are examples where it seemed as though the team would go into a death spiral. But, the players never quit on Richt. It has been his saving grace.

    They are quitting on him now. I really felt that his players would rally around him and pull something out of their hat on Saturday. We got dropped passes, penalties in key spots, mistakes and a lack of effort on the OL. When Pyke got driven back 5 yards into the backfield on the 4th down, it seemed over. I fear the players are losing hope.

    I always thought that Richt would never be fired after a bad season. It would take a multi-year malaise to overcome the dead-enders and give McGarrity the political cover to fire him. I really feel now that we could lose 2-3 more and he could be gone at season end.

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    • Doggoned

      I agree completely. This is the first time I’ve ever felt his job was in jeopardy. I hope he can win out — somehow. But it’s hard not to wonder if he’s lost that near-total focus on UGA. It happens to everyone, eventually. Life has numerous stages. If it’s time to move on, I hope he’s the one to make the call, and that he does so.

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      • Mayor

        Actually Doggoned, this is about the third time this has happened in the last 7 years. In 2009 the Dawgs lost a whole bunch of games at the beginning and middle of the season and was 4-4 after the WLOCP. It looked like CMR was a goner. People were wanting him fired on the spot–not even wanting to wait for the season to end. But Georgia won 3 out of the last 4 and the bowl to finish 8-5. After the 2010 season when the Dagws went 6-7 there were calls for his head then, too. I wanted him gone myself after 2010. Now this. It is distracting to have this debate constantly about Mark Richt and I do not think all the rancor over him is good for the program.

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    • Uglydawg

      Did you see Florida’s last drive..the defense never quit..they were ready to tear the running back’s head off to keep them from scoring again. I still give the defense some credit. But that’s about it.

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  24. JoshG

    As a huge Richt supporter, I think we’ve come to a point where we have to scrap and start over. There are good head coaches at smaller schools out there. How many more assistant changes can we make at this point that will make a real difference. The season ended last night in embarrassing fashion…again. I’m just tired of it. Things sometimes run their course, and Richt has dug the program into a whole I don’t think he can climb out of at this point.

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  25. mg4life0331

    Blame execution once, shame on the players….blame execution twice shame on the coaches.

    Regardless of how a coach hiring process would work out, at least we would have hope.

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  26. BarneyDawg

    Pyke should file assault charges against the Florida D line. Pyke was in our own backfield more than Bauta. Gurley and Chubb masked it over by being so good, but our offensive line is offensive.

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  27. TennesseeDawg

    There has been one person associated with the last 10 years of nothing.
    One person responsible for hiring Schotty
    One person responsible for the poor roster management
    One person who’s been there for every bed shitting game
    One person who decides each year which players to recruit
    One person who is responsible for motivation
    One person making over $4 million to put that kind of product on the field

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  28. Patrick Hodges

    Our stater was a reject from a 3rd tier ACC SCHOOL
    Our new OC was from an NFL team that, offensively sucked
    Our punter is the supposedly 2nd string QB but never plays
    Our secondary is all freshmen
    Our current 2nd string running back is a walk-on despite the fact that the 3rd string running back was a 4 star stud
    We are a 3rd level SEC team. Vandy, KTY, How is it acceptable on ANY level? The problem is @ the head. CMR must be removed.

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  29. Will Trane

    Heard Dean Leggett say it is time to fire Shotty.
    Said that last night.
    But all of this comes back to Mark Richt.
    It goes all the way back to winter and spring.
    They did nothing on the offense.
    No change in formations. No change or development on offensive lineman.
    Offensive line play. I remember Chubb’s comment, “Get it together”.
    Hate the freaking spell checker.
    Two offensive coordinators and they can not get one TD in 9 quarters.
    And we pay for this. If this was your broker would you pay him to lose your money and miss manage your assets.

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  30. Will Trane

    Florida head coach said he thought Pruitt was in their play book.
    Rare praise from a HC to an opposing DC.

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  31. Will Trane

    What changes if any will come on the offensive line.
    Or formations
    No SEC DC is going to comment on Mark’s offense.
    There is no offense.

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  32. Doggoned

    I would not declare Pruitt a success yet. He just looks good in comparison to the UGA offense, or lack of same.

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    • mikebozo

      Yep looks good except against good teams. Exception was yesterday while the fundementals were better and they played hard they were still out classed by a mediocre offense and qb.

      The offense going 0 for 6 on 3rd and 1 and 2/12 on 3rd down conversions did not help the D but they still had quite a few wtf moments. Lorenzo Carter has disappeared along with the interior line. Ganus is really the only bright spot but alas he was coached up before he got here.

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  33. Will Trane

    Two NFL hires.
    Two busts.
    Mark, try one for special teams.

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  34. Bobby Bowden Syndrome

    well, I guess after the AJC open records request, you’ll see mine this week……ad@sports.uga.edu, president@uga.edu

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  35. @gatriguy

    Richt looks and acts mentally and physically exhausted. He’s 20 lbs overweight. He’s aging exponentially in front of us. He team finally had the look of a group that realizes their opponents are better prepared than they are.

    Richt is stubborn and prideful, and McFly doesn’t have the stones or the political capital to can him.

    But it’s obvious that it’s time for a change. Truth be told, it was probably time after 2010. Spurrier’s old line about 10 years being about long enough was true.

    Richt needs to walk away. He won’t, of course. But he needs to. He’s going to end up leaving this program softer, more disorganized, and with less talent than he found it.

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  36. AthensHomerDawg

    Somehow, I don’t believe this will end well.

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  37. kevinsauer

    I thought the move to Bauta made a lot of sense: not else much working plus he has a skill set that is closer to Dobbs than our other QBs, and we saw how he had success against UF. Plus, hardest worker, spark, blah blah. But after watching the game and not really seeing a game plan around his skills I now think the decision was more out of desperation than a strategic move.

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  38. Will Trane

    Mark is the “Jim Tressel” at UGA.
    And not one person in authority to change the decline will do anything to salvage this program.
    Do it for the players.

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    • Mayor

      Will….WTF are you saying? Jim Tressel won natties–more than once. Jim Tressel never had a losing season. He screwed up by trying to protect his players and his program when some Mickey Mouse allegations about players getting free tats free tats came up. He shouldn’t have tried to cover that up and it cost him his job. Jim Tressel is now PRESIDENT of Youngstown State University. Can you see Mark Richt becoming President of a University? I sure as hell can’t. There is no reason to use Jim Tressel’s name and Mark Richt’s name in the same sentence.

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      • I think he is getting his Ohio State coach references mixed up. I think he means John Cooper.

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        • Mayor

          OK, OK. That I can see. Except John Cooper never had his teams fail to show up for big games repeatedly. He just couldn’t get past Michigan. John Cooper is in the College Football Hall of Fame. John Cooper is waaaay better than Mark Richt–and Cooper got fired.

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  39. Senator, thanks for an analysis from your brain, not your adrenal gland.

    My amateur analysis is that we are an offensive philosophy that depends upon being to run power football. Everything we wish to do, it seems, depends upon us being to run between the tackles, then operate off of that, rather than, say, Mike Leach, for whom everything operated off of being able to throw short routes to 4 wides or Meyer being able to make his QB a runner off of a twenty-first century version of a single wing.

    This year our offensive line has been the worst between the tackles run blocking line I can recall in the Richt era. Chubb’s balance, power and cutting ability masked that deficiency. We sure see it now.

    I know that we don’t get blocking from wide receivers on the edge this year, especially when Godwin and McKenzie are on the field, and I understand that, but we did not depend on Conley and Bennett to block between the tackles. These guys are not underclassmen.

    The differences between last year and this that I know about are that Sale changed from man to man blocking to zone, and our S &C program focus on stamina. Is there another reason we can’t get a yard when we face 2nd and 1?

    Shotty is a guy who learned to run offenses the NFL, power I, run the ball way. That is what he knows. It is like asking a career Italian chef to start a southern soul food place. When he faces a challenge he tried to solve that challenge with what he knew.

    By contrast, Bobo is a career college guy, who, although charged with operating the philosophy discussed above, learned spread principles that he could utilize when power I would not be as effective. I can’t say Bobo could get 40 points per game with this offensive line and these quarterbacks, but he would have change the game plan to use the assets Buata brought. Shotty did not. He asked Buata to do what Lambert was asked to do, only do it better, despite the fact that summer camp lead the coach to think Lambert ran that style better than Buata.

    Similarly, Sony Michel is an outstanding player, but his skills are different that Chubb’s. When Chubb went down we asked Michel to stop doing what he did well and instead we asked him to duplicate Chubb’s skills. I understand plugging him into the UT game plan as Chubb when having to respond to injury, but for the Florida game we failed to change a game plan to ask Michel to do what he does best.

    In summary, Schotty relied upon what he knows. Plug the next QB and next RB into the NFL mold. A college guy such as Bobo may have been comfortable with a different plan that would have asked Buata and Michel to do what they do best, rather than what they do not do as well.

    He is not stupid, the coaches aren’t , as the offensive comment suggested, “retards.” Schotty failed to look at a different approach that better matched the talent on the field because yesterday’s plan was what they taught in the NFL.

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    • Mayor

      Gee, Gassie. That’s about the best analysis of what has happened that I’ve seen. I think you are absolutely right.

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      Agree Gaskill. Schotty’s executing the offense he was hired to execute. It’s the same offense Richt ran when he called the plays, and same offense CMB called in his early days of being OC. Over a number of seasons CMB adjusted the offense to the hybrid we saw the last couple years.

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      • Will (the other one)

        Yep. Which unfortunately was around the time the “fire Bobo” voices had a legit point. And now I’m left wondering if the best things about the offense under Bobo (spread concepts, tempo) are things Richt just “doesn’t like” for whatever reason.

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    • OdontoDawg

      I agree with your analysis. I do think that BS had a gameplan to use Michel’s unique skill set, seen by opening the game in wildcat. But the injury to Michel on the echoed the start to the UT game. Suddenly, Michel is in the locker room and the gameplan is scrapped. Insert Brendan Douglas. I can’t fault BS for the Michel injury, but I don’t understand why there was no thoughtful adjustment to the gameplan after it. Where was Marshall? Is Turman even still on our roster?

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  40. W Cobb Dawg

    McGarity certainly took a lot of guff late last year in the ham-handed way he questioned Richt’s dedication and ability. Although handled very poorly, its looking more clear every day like McG had valid concerns.

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  41. Will Trane

    Mark is eligible to be president at a missionary university.
    He and Tressel have similar coaching styles.
    Plus they are at solid universities which have trouble cutting loss coaches who are at the end of a career.
    Can not imagine too many high school players who want into the.Mark Right
    School of Playing SEC football.

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  42. John Denver is full of shit...

    Field goal inside the 10 down 20-0 is where I found the bandwagon.

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    • Uglydawg

      That really did it for me too. CMR had already forgotten how Butch Jones went for it twice on fourth down to come back and beat Georgia.
      But CMR would rather kick a field goal than any thing else in the world.
      It’s what he does. Cautious Mark.

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  43. doofusdawg

    once again the game was lost in the offensive game plan.

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  44. Derek

    Interesting time line:

    1/4/12: http://espn.go.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=320040228

    11/14/13: http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1850919-no-1-dual-threat-qb-deshaun-watson-signs-financial-aid-agreement-with-clemson

    10/30/15 http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/eye-on-college-football/25358282/why-clemson-should-be-no-1-in-first-college-football-playoff-rankings

    It’s obvious to anybody with a fucking brain that Clemson’s AD should have fired Dabo after being embarrassed by wvu because Clemson would have done such big things with coach “X” and no deshaun Watson, right?

    Say what you will but I think CMR is twice the coach dabo is and nobody shat the bed more than Clemson. But they hung in there, got the right qb and are doing big things. Players matter. Players at qb matter the most.

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    • It’s obvious to anyone with a fucking brain that you don’t have a fucking brain.

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      • Derek

        Excellent analysis chili! The way you used your words to compare and contrast the Clemson/Dabo/Watson situation and the UGA/CMR/Eason (not Park like you said yesterday twice b/c you’re fucking stupid) situation was a tour de force of analytics.

        Would you like me to buy you a Patrick Towles jersey for Saturday? We all KNOW who you want to win now don’t we?

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        • Turd Ferguson

          Here’s the funny thing about your little spat with chilidawgnv. Suppose UGA actually does fire Richt, and replaces him with Coach X. And then, suppose UGA suffers an embarrassing loss early in Coach X’s tenure. You’d be positively delighted, on here gloating about how the Richt critics were wrong, yada yada yada …

          And the irony would float by, miles above your head.

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          • Derek

            You are as smart as a turd aren’t you? I will NEVER be happy with losing. I will not want us to lose ever. My first thought when Donnan was fired was “Please no Mark richt!” I could be gloating. I am not. Never have. Never will. I thought CMR would be Brad Scott v.2. I was wrong. I’ll pull for the TEAM with or without CMR. Chili is the guy who won’t, not me so piss off!!!

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            • Turd Ferguson

              As expected, you couldn’t see the irony of your own bullshit if it smacked you square in the face. Thanks for playing, little guy.

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              • Derek

                If I could only see the irony of not wanting CMR hired and questioning whether he should be fired, right? The irony of you not seeing that I see the irony is the only thing ironic here but maybe you learned everything you know about irony from Alanis Morissette.

                You along with chili and everyone else apparently can’t address the Dabo comparison, because you haven’t. I think its because you can’t. I think you can’t because you’re stupid. I will not grab a pitchfork to join a bunch of babbling screaming, feces throwing chimps who haven’t the intellect to form a cogent argument. I question the conclusions of stupid people and especially question the opinions of traitors like chili.

                Everybody thought Dabo should be shown the door. He’s proven those people wrong. The right call for the Clemson AD was to maintain the course. That’s been proven. Why is our situation different? Take your time… Our just act consistent with the name you’ve given yourself. Who am I to argue with your own conclusion that you are a “turd?”

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                • Maybe it’s not everyone else. Maybe it’s just you. Ever stop to think that perhaps the reason nobody sees your logic is because it’s not logical? Hmmm.

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                • Derek

                  Awesome argument! Let me sum up, if I can, your reasoning why the Clemson and Dabo situation is different than our own: “____”

                  Really good work there chili. Fucking oustanding!

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                • Gaskilldawg

                  Not to get into a FY argument, but I see Derek’s point.
                  I also know that if we fired Richt I would never want us to lose, for any readon, and certainly not to be able to one up anyone on a message board.

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                • It’s been said before but bears repeating: you are not anywhere near as smart as you think you are. And your bullshit laden soliloquies are not convincing anyone to the contrary.

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                • Derek

                  On a scale of 1 to 10 how badly do you want to lose to Kentucky? Its 12 ain’t it? Maybe 13?

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                • mikebozo

                  It has not taken Dabo 14 next years to get where he is at now. Richt has had 14 next years and with Eason coming in it will be 15. How many next years does he deserve?

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                • Derek

                  Dabo’s been the coach at Clemson since ’08. Had there been a playoff then, CMR would have made it year 2 and year 5 and year 7 so yeah great point moron. As I said, CMR is twice the coach Dabo is. The thing Dabo has right now is a QB. CMR doesn’t.

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                • mikebozo

                  Would of is not a point. 2012 may be a point but none of the others.

                  You really are as stoopid as you post.

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                • Dabo and Richt are both CEO types. Dabo just apparently does a better job at delegating. And are you one of MRs kids or something because man you sure do love him?

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                • Derek

                  See this is where the stupid shows up. Dabo is better? Not his qb. No that’s not the answer because the difference between Watson and Bauta/Lambert is negligible right? He’s just a better coach. I mean how dumb do you have to be? Dabo has been nothing but mediocre his entire career. He gets a great QB recruit and is on top and all of a sudden he can coach? Why don’t we just see what geniuses Schotty and CMR are when Jacob Eason shows up?

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                • That you think Schottenheimer will be here if and when Eason shows up shows hat a moron you are. Richt probably won’t be here 2itber and Eason will go to USC. You’ll have to find a new team then I suppose.

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    • Will (the other one)

      Funny how you leave out that:
      A. Chad Morris is by far a better OC than Schotty
      B. the DC for that Orange Bowl (which, ugly loss aside, was still a BCS bowl) didn’t stick around at Clemson.

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      • Derek

        I also left out Frank Howard and the fucking rock.

        What’s your fucking point? Dabo had a team that coined “Clemsoning” and deservedly so. Now they are on the verge of the playoff. The difference? QB.

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        • Btw. If you’re going to bring up Clemson then a much better comparison to Richt is Tommy Bowden.

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          • Derek

            Tommy Bowden’s record:

            Total:72–45 Conf.: 43–32

            CMR’s record:
            Total:141–51 Conf.: 81–37

            So an apt comparison if you’re very, very dumb.

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            • Actually both coaches that should have been canned years before they finally were. And really? The Eason card is all you have left now?

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              • Derek

                Nice job backing up your stupid comparison. Its not close. You said something stupid so just change the subject.

                As far Eason, I do think that what ails this team more than anything else is really, really bad qb play. Are we perfect every where else? No. I see tackling issues. I see blocking issues. I see technique issues.

                The main thing why we have three losses though is terrible qb play. You have to have production from that position AND you have to take care of the ball. We have neither and its deprives us of any capacity of taking advantage of a roster that is otherwise pretty damn good. Great? No. Good enough to win the east? No doubt in my mind that with a reasonably decent qb that we win the east. When I mean “reasonably decent” I mean a guy that an NFL team would draft. So I don’t count Mason as “reasonably decent.” Much better than what we have though. We’ve gone from a qb that no NFL team would want to guys that no BCS team would want. .

                The reason I raise the Dabo comparison is because everybody decided the guy couldn’t do it. He gets Watson and things change dramatically. I’d like to know why people think our situation is that different. If Watson could change the course for Clemson then why can’t Eason do the same for UGA?

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  45. So, is Richt going into McGarrity’s office today and telling him he needs to fire BS? I bet that will make McGarrity angrier than anything. The fact that he will have to pay BS millions of dollars to not coach for several years because Richt made a mistake.

    That will chap GM more than the performance on the field.

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  46. I think CMR has come down with a slight cases of “the Willies”. This may pass.

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  47. Will Trane

    “Dabo” called Mark.
    Can you score on Kentucky.
    Sure can with Shotty running the show and he is going to let my punter play quarterback in the game. Check out out run blocking and new formations.
    Georgia and Missouri will scrimmage each other in a secret bowl at end of season. Who scores a touchdown first wins.

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  48. Will Trane

    How many more years is Georgia willing to give Mark? One more? Two? Ten more?
    How many more top recruiting classes?
    How many more NFL hires.
    How many more losses to Florida?
    In past ten years what has been the degree of assurance for a championship SEC title? Can he beat the teams like Alabama, LSU, Florida. What is that record. Losses, and most have been harsh and terrible.

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  49. DawgByte

    I fault Schotty for many things, but nobody can criticize him for turning a sow’s ear into a silk purse in 8 months! Lambert, Ramsey and Bauta are what they are – C- rated QB’s. Two of our QB’s didn’t even play in Pro Style offenses in HS, so they were not molded to play in Bobo’s offense from the very start. Stupid recruiting on Mike’s part!!!

    The problem with Schotty is adherence to a formula. He’s running the offense by what’s on the pages and not the skills of his players. Nothing was more evident of this than taking a “dual threat” QB in Bauta and only running him 3 times or not getting the ball in the hands of playmakers like Terry Godwin, Blazeovich, Mitchell and others. Lastly, why did Schotty burn Jackson Harris’ red shirt? He played him the first two games and nothing since. I don’t think the freshman is injured either. If you’re going to burn the kids redshirt you might as well play him.

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    • myvw

      Look, Schotty wasn’t why we lost this game, like the Senator said, execution, came down to 4 plays, 2 Rome TD drops, blocking broke down on double move where Mitchell would have scored instead you get the sack, and the Davis fumble for td on the punt. That’s 28 points for the win.

      Pruitt needs to work on his sudden change defense, his guys didn’t seemed prepared with the 2 quick turnovers in the red zone. Other than that, and them picking on the Abrams kid who was in for Sanders in the first half on the long 66 yard td, the defense did ok.

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      • illini84

        I say that last night and get ravaged by some “lawyer” who doesn’t like my screen name.

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        • SAtownDawg

          you’re nothing but a message board troll,,,sorry you got your panties in a bunch

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          • illini84

            You’re sorry all right. See you at the Kentucky game punk.

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            • SAtownDawg

              sensitive are we? here’s some free advice…when you get into multiple confrontations with multiple posters on this board on a consistent basis, it’s not them, it’s you…now call me another name, feel good about yourself and have a good evening

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              • illini84

                I’d never heard of you when I expressed an opinion and got

                “your fellow idiot yankees”
                from you and then this.
                …shove your Ilini diploma up your ass…my UGA diploma hangs in my law office bitch”

                from you. Used to shoving people around with you lawyer bullshit huh? Xin Loi bubba.

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        • Ravaged: despoiled,sacked, pillaged…backhanded. Yikes!

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  50. myvw

    Look, quit using the “the team has sucked since Chubb got hurt” excuse.

    It was more the competition stepped up after Chubb’s injury. TN, Bama, Mizzou, and UF.

    THAT’S how you explain the recent struggles.

    Look at the defense, they sucked against every top 60 scoring offense (points given up: 38 TN, 38 Bama, 27 UF according to ESPN stats). That’s really the main issue. I know people want to blame the offense, but the offense played well enough to win in the TN game for example, and even put up 10 on Bama if the defense shuts down Bama, and holds TN to just 30. you’re 7-1.

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  51. j4k372

    It’s funny to me the different tolerance levels of our fans. I gave up on Richt during the Willie fiasco. Other people are just now getting to that frustration level. Meh. Bitch and moan all you want. Teflon Richt ain’t going nowhere until he gets good and damn ready. Just because you have finally had your fill, keep it to yourself. It doesn’t matter anyway.

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    • myvw

      I wasn’t a sucker for getting hopes up based on what the SEC press thought UGA should do in 2015 with a brand new OC and Qb and a young defense. It always was a rebuilding bridge season to Jacob Eason. It was an 8-4 or 9-3 at best season from the get go. I’m not disappointed because given those 3 factors, this was more realistic for 2015.

      I just want the rest of the season to be about getting ready for a great 2016. Play the young guys more on defense, get Eason’s backup ready(should be Ramsey at this point because he’s the only one with eligibility left after this season), find an OLIne, etc. Forget 2015, just get better for 2016, who cares if we lose the rest if we’re preparing for 2016.

      I would also work on execution in the passing game with drops especially with Davis and the tight ends.

      Let McKenize field all kicks and punts and work through issues, he’s that good.

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      • When will people like you realize there IS no “great 201X” coming? We’ve seen Richt’s peaks. They’re always just short of where we want to be. It’s been asked repeatedly – if Richt couldn’t win with the likes of Stafford/Moreno, Murray/Gurley/Chubb, why do you think Eason will be anything more than the next great player to leave Athens without a trophy? And that’s IF he amounts to anything. Some of you seem to forget that just because they have a high recruiting ranking doesn’t mean they’ll pan out. See Jeff Driskel.

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  52. Can anyone name a UGA player who will make the All-SEC first or second team this year? This team was supposed to win the East but I can’t think of a single standout. Mitchell might if they could get him the ball.

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  53. Mike Cooley

    A great 2016? Talk about getting suckered. Richt is out of excuses. Personally I think his job is actually legitimately in trouble for the first time. I say that based on what I’m seeing from people who had been rabid in their blind Richt support until very recently. I’m not saying everything will be better all the sudden if he’s fired or moves on but we can not continue with things as they are. And I personally think the idea that Richt isn’t going anywhere being a foregone conclusion is false.

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      Almost half the stadium voted with their feet yesterday. How many of them do you think were hardcore CMR supporters as they walked out? I’m sure Richt apologists will come up with all variety of reasons he won’t get the boot. And maybe they’re right – we’re too polite to just kick him out the door like a steinbrenner would. Right now, it feels like CMR is the ex-coach, but he just doesn’t get it.

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      • Mike Cooley

        Agree W Cobb. Maybe I’m wrong but it really seems like the people who are just fed up are growing in number. That’s the second game where large numbers of people have just gotten up and walked out. Now, the Richt fans can frame that as disloyal fans acting badly. But I don’t think anyone is paying them any attention anymore. When your team repeatedly looks lost, unprepared etc, people shouldn’t be expected to act as if it suits them just fine. I think Richt has lost a lot of people recently.

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        • sniffer

          I agree with much of what you’re saying. I have been a Richt supporter on this blog for a long time and still admire his doing things the right way. Here’s where I am and maybe a few others. I sense that in a few short years college football will no longer be that interesting to me. I can barely hang on now with conference realignment, playoff

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          • sniffer

            Instability and any number of other distractions. I would like to see UGA win some sort of championship before I lose entirely my interest. Always a Dawg but losing it fast for college football. So, if not now, when? And if not Richt, who?

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  54. mamadawg

    The only way that McGarity and UGA is going to make a coaching change is if the money is affected. College football is all about money and, unfortunately, has been for some time now. The Old Guard: OSU, Michigan, ND, PSU, USCw, Alabama and others have been in the money game for a long time now. You don’t see coaches who don’t produce championships at these colleges last 15 years, ever. That door will revolve again and again until they find a coach that can win. Winning = money.

    My point is I see lots of people bagging on Richt, but if the program wasn’t making money, he would be gone. I believe that. They (The Man) don’t care what we think. It’s not visceral to them like it is to us. As long as the money is there, Richt ain’t going nowhere. I don’t know why some of you continue the personal attacks on Richt, it’s not about him. If you feel the need to release the Kraaken then do it with your wallet. The coaches and the players aren’t bad people because they don’t win. They’re not retards, or losers, or lazy. They’re pawns in a game, and so are we.

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    • wetdawg

      Dang Mamadawg….I believe your right! Vote with your wallet!!!

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    • I understand this point, but Alabama didn’t stop making money before Saban was hired. Auburn didn’t stop making money when Tuberville was there. Programs like these will always have the cash rolling in, even if they’re going 0-12. I don’t think that needs to happen for change to occur.

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      • Mayor

        Chili, you’re talking nonsense here. Bama made a lot less money before Sabam arrived. And why would Auburn stop making money because Tubby was there? If you take out the accidental BCSNC year with Cam Newton that Cheatsatit lucked into, Tubby was the best coach Auburn ever had.

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      • Bobby Bowden Syndrome

        Yup, as long as uga continues to maintain a top 10 spot on Forbes money list, no way president or AD can him. this dude is entrenched for the long haul. Teflon. And if the AD brought “his guy” in to replace cmr, he will live or die by that decision, so no way do I ever expect McGarity to do anything.

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    • Mike Cooley

      First of all, McG was ready to run Richt off last year. That’s been well documented here. So I’m skeptical of what you say about him not going anywhere. I certainly don’t see it as fact but just an opinion. Second, I don’t think he’s going to be gone next week. But there doesn’t seem to be any reason to think anything is going to improve very much any time soon. Even the people writing the big checks don’t have infinite patience. If things continue as they are they aren’t going to just keep sinking money into the program. That seems unlikely anyway. And how do we know that isn’t already happening? You don’t know. You’re just stating an opinion.last, I’m not sure why you think wanting to see the program succeed rather than flounder or even sink is being emotional and getting personal. I said above that calling Richt a retard was bullshit. But the idea that wanting the team to perform better is equal to having something personal against Richt, attacking him, or thinking he and the coaches are bad people, well that’s silly and says more about you than it says about those just wanting better results. I will never understand the UGA fans who take any valid criticism of Richt as as personal attack on him. I also will never understand their mentality of, either give nothing but praise or keep silent. That is also silly and childish.

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      • Will (the other one)

        This is a pretty good rejoinder to the “even if we finish 5-7 McGarity won’t fire him” talk. IF Richt’s job was in jeopardy going into the bowl game last year for playing terribly vs a bad UF team without Gurley, and losing at home on a dumb call to the best Tech team since 1990, how could it not be in further jeopardy for losing at home to Kentucky and/or Georgia Southern, or a very bad Tech team (which would be giving the nerds their first win streak since Jim Donnan was coach.)

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        • Normaltown Mike

          IMHO, Tech is his sine qua non this season. If he wins there, he’s good for another season (of bed shitting, etc.).

          If he manages a couple 3-2 or 6-3 wins down the stretch and loses to Tech, all bets are off.

          The most powerful boosters in athletics are guys that sling booze for a living and most didn’t crack a book on our campus. They’ll let GMcG know when the good times have stopped rolling.

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          • ?
            Leebern played at Georgia… doesn’t mean he cracked a book but he’s not stupid. Trippi owned serveral liquor stores… worked for him. Sinkwich family… Just sayin’

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            • Normaltown Mike

              My point is that the big money football donors are wedded to football being fun and right now…it ain’t. Contrary to some of the comments I’ve seen, the people that can push the envelope are not wedded to Adams or Jimmy Williams or academic excellence. They want to have a good time and they put big money into the program so that they can have a big time 6 Saturdays a year.

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          • Will (the other one)

            So basically, if we really want change, we can’t let poor play (especially the offense) drive us to drink anymore if we live in GA?

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      • +1000. We might be the most screwed up fan base in football.

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      • mamadawg

        You have a right to your opinion, and I have a right to mine. I just happen to think that you can make arguments about what is wrong with our football program without being a jerk. Did you even read my post, it wasn’t about people who have valid criticism and wanting our team to be better, etc. MY POINT is that until the money dries up, Richt is not going anywhere. That’s an opinion!!!!! I couldn’t care less about what you or +1 or anyone else has to say about firing Richt or any other coach. Knock yourself out!!! I may be silly and childish, but you’re a jerk.
        Oh and if you’re gonna argue your case, get your facts straight. McGarity had no plans WHATSOEVER to fire Richt. I don’t care what was said here. Here are the facts:
        http://www.ajc.com/…/mcgarity…-/njfS9/

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  55. Go with Lambert. He is the only one who has proven he can do it. (USC E). Put Douglass at fullback. He does not make people miss at TB. Alternate Michel and Hicks at TB . Hicks is inconsistent at FB. Run Double tights and half the time spread them out and split out the TB for pass plays. Run play action. The defense would have to leave in their big
    package and try cover TE with middle linebackers, etc. With that many blockers, should be able to run .

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    • Mayor

      I agree with at least of what you are saying. We have to finish the season. Lambert is the best of the QBs we have, at least that we’ve seen. We are down in the RB department because of injury so moving Hicks to RB is a good idea. Make a backup O-Lineman who is not playing a FB and add him to the mix, too. I feel certain at least one of the non-playing OL did that in HS. I’d keep Douglass at RB and run him up the gut instead of Michel.

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  56. Juan

    Blah blah blah

    IT’S TIME FOR RICHT TO GO

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  57. 69Dawg

    Well I’m penning my farewell post. I am not going to be commenting because I’m not going to be reading the comments. This place will be Troll Land for the foreseeable future and while I know the Senator tries his best to cut down on the sock puppets, it’s going to be a full time job.

    So in parting, we all know CMR is not going to be fired for at least 3 more years. We know he does not lie, all the quarterbacks suck equally, he just forgot the suck part. We have once again the most overrated offensive line in my 68 years as a fan. We have one receiver who can catch a pass on a regular basis. Stick a fork in this year cause we are done. Now we have to pray we can score at least one TD against KY and the defense can pitch a shutout because Auburn, Georgia Southern and GT are going to score and I’m not sure we can.

    Just remember the savior is coming, if he doesn’t change his mind. He is the real deal and I don’t think even CBS can swerw him up but I could be wrong.

    Let the blood bath continue.

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    • 69, you’re a good commenter here.

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    • Don’t go too far, your thoughtful insight is always appreciated. I totally agree with your points above regarding the balance of the season. Based off of what I’ve seem so far, I do think CBS could screw up Eason. CBS has certainly regressed the team this year and if I was Eason’s dad I’d be having second thoughts.

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      • If Richt is not fired, at least fire Schotty and now.

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        • The problem with Georgia, is everytime Richt is about to be fired, he does a season similar to 2012 at least reaching the SEC championship game. In 2014 when he was in danger, the team did have an outstanding game against Louisville. It almost like when Richt is on the verge of disaster, something happen that seem to resurrect him. Does he really deserve to stay as HC with this hot and cold games? If the Dawgs win all the games coming in November, will that seeming improvement keep him off the chopping block. In a way his ability to save his own skin seem to be providential.

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          • Will (the other one)

            Of course, based on that pattern, there should’ve been at least, a close, competitive loss yesterday.

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    • Mike Cooley

      You might as well stay, man. It won’t be anything you havent seen here before. Besides, big dramatic, pre-announced exits on the interweb are usually a bad idea.

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  58. It was a pleasure to finally meet you Saturday. Ir is too bad the rest of the day was not so pleasurable for us.

    We are going to have lots to write about for a while, huh?

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  59. I think Derek is secretly MR’s kid.

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  60. Mayor

    I got it!! Let’s find him a job! That’s how we always got rid of guys who we didn’t want where I used to work. Now who would want to hire the guy? Miami? They won’t pay enough–capped at $2 Mil. South Carolina? No. The previous coach there beat him like a drum so the Cocks won’t think it is an upgrade. No, the more I think about it there is no college football program in America that would hire him. The negative publicity from this season killed any chance of having him move to another college coaching job. The NFL? That’s rich!!! Forget that one!! So let’s find him another type of gig–like missionary work, something like that. Anybody got any ideas?

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      I have it on good authority CMR is hoping for an opening in the farm belt. Next time he tells the 2 farmer’s parable, he wants players that will know wtf he’s talking about.

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    • Mayor

      Mrs. Mayor says that I am wrong. She says Mark Richt would be ideal as HC of a football program at a school that doesn’t make winning a priority. A school that places more emphasis on running a clean program and graduating its players than winning. Like Wake Forest. Like Vandy. Maybe she’s right.

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  61. Baitstand

    I’m beginning to think that trading Gurley for Schotty wasn’t such a good idea.

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    • myvw

      Shotty’s offense has been bad, no experience at Qb, no receivers besides Mitchell, no tight end productivity, Chubb got injured, etc.
      The offense is 14th in the conference in scoring against teams with a winning record.

      But, guess what? The defense is struggling just as badly. They are 13th in the conference in scoring against winning teams.

      What frustrates is UF had many of the same issues (new OC, new Head Coach, new Qb) plus inexperience on their oline, and is 7-1. But that’s VERY unusual to go 7-1 in these circumstances. UF is very fortunate. And strangely winning with turnover margin, which based on luck, fluctuates from year to year.

      Gosh, how many tipped balls got picked vs Bauta, was it 3, or all 4? What are the chances of that? In the TN game, the Michel fumble rolls right through a players hands, and Davis drops a sure TD.

      Sometimes the turnover margin doesn’t bounce your way. But it’s usually self correcting.

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  62. myvw

    Got to wonder, why AD mcGarity only got a handful of negative emails during the bye week, but supposedly on this blog, there are dozens who want Richt fired. Fishy. I’m thinking it’s more than likely the same guy complaining, with some different handles.

    99.9% still want Richt.

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    • W Cobb Dawg

      But the 0.1% that actually went to the game left long before the 4th quarter. Not sure how you spin that. But to me, when just about everybody who came to see you play picks up and leaves, it sends a loud and clear message.

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    • mikebozo

      Because he has already blocked the negative senders. You think they just started sending negative e mails during the bye week? He just got a few because that is the last of the Richt supports that know how to write.

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  63. Mike Cooley

    Lol. 99% huh? You can actually break it down to percentages? You’ve taken a poll or something? You’re making things up and stating your own opinions and hopes as if they are facts. You have no insight into this that anyone else doesn’t have. Clearly you want Richt to stay no matter what. Thats what I don’t understand. These people that want him to remain coach no matter what happens.

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    • myvw

      Yeah, name all the ex-player who tweeted for Richt to be fired after the UF loss?

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      • Derek

        I’m still waiting for one of the reactionaries to make a football related argument that it’s the best interest of the program to make a change now. (Chili doesn’t count because he pulls for the other team to win and not us). I’ve posted two reasonable questions in two days: 1) why does Tom Brady win whether Charlie Weiss calls the plays or josh mcdaniels does? The peanut gallery has zero. Nothing other than nonsense. 2) if Clemson had fired Dabo for repeatedly “clemsoning” would they be on the brink of the playoffs with Watson? Again nothing.

        As far as the suggestions of being a sycophant, I said start Ramsey all off season. I didn’t agree with starting lambert. Still don’t. I think we should have went with Ramsey vs. Florida. I don’t always agree with CMR. I do think firing him at this juncture is very dumb. I also think it’s very dumb people who are saying we should. They reveal that stupidity over and over. Then you have the traitor. He knows everything except you don’t pull for the dawgs to lose. I’m going to listen to that guy? He desperately wanted to lose yesterday. The worse the better as far as he’s concerned. He’s the happiest guy in America today. He’s wants Kentucky Saturday too. He wants them to beat our guys badly. I get the feeling he’s far from alone they just have the judgment to keep their treachery to themselves.

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        • Mike Cooley

          Derek I’ve noticed you have a tendency to get shrill when it isn’t necessary. You seem on edge and act as if you’ve been done an injustice when someone doesn’t treasure your opinions as much as you clearly do. Relax man. Nobody is going to take you as seriously as you take yourself. That’s true for everyone, not just you. You also use the words “dumb” and “stupid” to describe anyone who doesn’t think what you think. That doesn’t make you smart or daring. It makes you a dick head.

          Tom Brady is a professional. But more than that he is one of the greatest to ever play the game. What you are suggesting has no legs at all. I can’t believe you even typed that. As for Clemson, the season isn’t over. When they go deep into the playoffs or win the whole thing and then show next year that it wasn’t a flash in the pan, your comparison to us and them and Richt to Dabo will hold water. The fact that we are comparing ourselves to Clemson sort of undercuts your argument and makes me laugh.

          Flame away homey.

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      • mikebozo

        It was the ex players sending them during the bye week under assumed names

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    • It used to be that those that wanted Richt gone were the lunatic fringe. I’m start that his blind supporters are the new one.

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      • Starting to think even.

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      • Derek

        It’s not “blind”. It’s rational. It’s based on some basic understanding of football which can be explained. The fire Richt crowd are the “blind” ones who can’t see that the problem is that we have three shitty options at qb and think that the best way to get better is to chase the no. 1 qb away. They do this because they are both blind and stupid.

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        • And who recruited those QBs? And you think a true freshman with a crappier line and an OC with a bad reputation for developing QBs is going to make the difference? I’d say ignoring ten years of mediocrity is blind.

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        • And btw. Eason isn’t even ranked in the top three pro style QBs on several sites. He may be great but let’s not act like we have the next Peyton Manning coming.

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          • Derek

            Peyton manning wasn’t the no. 1 recruit in Louisiana. Josh booty was. So maybe he is. Maybe he isn’t. I’m sure coach “X” will do great with qb “y”. Can you even fathom where we’d be if we started over in December? We can’t score a td with the guys we have. You think coach “X” will perform some type of voodoo trick on one of them? It’s not like he’d be able to get anybody of consequence to come to UGA in February. You folks ought to try to think rather than emote and react.

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            • Mike Cooley

              Lol. So you want to keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result because you are a thinker? I guess insanity does include its own sort of thinking.

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              • Derek

                Do I expect you to become less stupid? No. Do I enjoy pointing out that you’re stupid? Yes I do. Very much. Wish it wasn’t as easy as it is but you work with what you’ve got, right.

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                • Mike Cooley

                  It’s funny when an idiot thinks he is as brilliant as you clearly do and thinks it is everyone else who is lagging behind.

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            • The guy that just whooped our asses seems to be doing alright.

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        • Mike Cooley

          Keeping a coach in the name of holding onto a recruit is the very definition of blind and stupid. Are you serious with this nonsense? Lol.

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          • Derek

            The logic isn’t keeping him for a recruit. It’s not firing him for not having a winning qb in 2015 (or 2014 for that matter) especially when what ails you is about to be remedied. I know there’s more then one moving piece here and its complicated but please try and keep up.

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            • Mike Cooley

              There is more to this than simply not having a competent qb. That doesn’t account for special teams always being a hot mess, the offensive line always underperforming, our inability to get the most out of offensive talent and misusing guys who could potentially help us while strangely using others in rolls for which they are not suited, ie going to Brendan Douglas yesterday when we desperately needed a third down. Getting a good qb isn’t going to solve all that. If you can’t understand that then I’m going to have to go huff some gas in order to “keep up” with your “thinking”.

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              • mikebozo

                You cannot have a good discussion with a person who thinks they are smarter than every one else.

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              • Derek

                Ive said that there are other issues. See above. The main issue that is keeping us from winning is qb. I don’t think it’s time to burn the whole thing down and start over. I think we’ve got a pretty good roster save the qb position. Defense is finally playing the way you want to see them play. They play hard if not well at all times. I think we’ve got a good foundation and we’re moving in the right direction personnel wise. Throwing our hands up and starting over isn’t getting us closer to where we want to be. Again, what does our qb situation look like in 2016 if we can CMR?

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                • Ellis

                  The Clempson comparison doesn’t work. The ACC is not the SEC and Clemson has not played anyone yet on the level of Alabama or Florida. Notre Dame may be comparable to Tennessee.

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                • Derek

                  WTF does their competition have to do with a damn thing? Dabo sucked in the ACC gets a QB and is about to be in the playoffs. Are you saying qb matters less in the SEC? I’d say its just the opposite. The only point I am making is that Clemson is better off because they didn’t listen to the impatient fans and because of that they ended up with Watson. Moreover, there were FAR more reasons to shit can Dabo than CMR. Its simply a cautionary tale using actual real life facts. The conference they are in is irrelevant to the comparison. If its relevant to their current success then its also relevant to Dabo’s prior glaring failures.

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  64. Mike Cooley

    That has absolutely nothing to do with your statement that 99% want Richt. I’m not claiming percentages because there is no way for me or you to know. That’s the point. I think the number of people who fully support Richt is growing smaller with each loss. Notice I used the words, “I think”. You on the other hand throw out statistics that you can’t back up which ruins your credibility.

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    • FDR during WW2 didn’t even come close to a 90 something percent approval rating. To claim that 99% want Richt is just so patently false that it’s funny. Or sad.

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    • I also “think” the tide is turning. Outside of MRs kid and the 99%er the Disneys are conspicuously absent today. Usually the team moms would be in full attack mode.

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      • Normaltown Mike

        I’ve been pro Ricth for years and always found reasons to have faith in his leadership and all that being said…I didn’t watch or listen to the game yesterday.

        Apathy doesn’t begin to capture my feelings towards him at this point.

        It doesn’t mean I’m going to email GmG (I’m a nobody, so why bother) but it means I find time to cut the grass and help the wife around the house on a GA/FL Saturday. Something that would seem inexplicable a few years ago.

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      • mikebozo

        Obviously the moms are pissed at Richt also.
        Disneys have elected Diker the spokesman since he is smarter then everyone else

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  65. myvw

    There are only 5 coaches with a higher winning percentage than Richt who have coached at least 10 years:
    Urban 85%
    Peterson 82%
    Stoops 79%
    Saban 76%
    Patterson 75%

    Richt wins 74%. And is No 16 among all coach’s in winning % (even though some are in year one).

    Only 1 is in the SEC, Saban, the toughest conference.

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  66. Rabble Lay

    Coaches are like kickers. They are just one bad kick
    Or one bad season away from a new job. Schott ought to be checking the help wanteds. Eisenhower was a great General and President not because he was a military genius but he could pick good support staff. How about the decision making at UGA FOOTBALL TODAY?

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  67. Rabble Lay

    “The meek shall inherit the Earth. Thanks to the same and bad coaching decisions the Dawgs inherited more than their share of Florida turf on Saturday. Einstein said that insanity is doing the same stupid things over and over and expecting different results. 5/10 W/L says a lot!!!

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  68. CB

    Are we seriously saying that we miss Mike Bobo, and that Schott is the problem? What is a guy supposed to do when he arrives at a program with no qb talent at all, and then loses arguably the best running back in the nation? Schemes and strategies are all well and good, but if you don’t have players then creativity doesn’t matter. If we miss anyone it’s Will Friend.

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