A fine mess: about McGarity and Morehead

Skip past Dean Legge’s sturm-und-drang to get to what’s important.

According to published reports, terminating Schottenheimer’s contract would result in the Bulldogs being forced to pay the remaining $1,914,400 the two sides agreed to in January. Pruitt’s contract is structured the same way, but there is no talk of him being let go.

Richt’s contract, on the other hand, is more complicated. The most current extension agreement has either not yet been signed, which has been a practice that’s gone on under McGarity for one reason or another, or has not yet been requested and therefore released under Freedom of Information laws.

With that said, according to the contract that is public, Richt would be due $66,000 per month through the end of 2019. That’s at least a $3,168,000 buyout for Richt alone. Terminating Richt would also certainly trigger the termination of Schottenheimer ($1,914,400) and likely Pruitt ($2,600,000). UGA-Richt-Mark-2012-16-contract.pdf

That means if the extension Richt agreed to – the one that is not public has the same clause for compensation for termination without cause – then dismissing Richt after the 2015 would cost Georgia at least $7,682,400 as it stands today. That would be Richt, Pruitt and Schottenheimer all gone.

It could be done, sure, but that’s not a small amount of money.

For those of you who don’t think that’s a big deal for the athletic director and president, given Georgia’s resources, all I can say is that it’s easy to be dismissive when you’re not the one writing the checks.

Here’s the other thing to remember about being in their shoes.  After the bowl game – and much to our satisfaction at the time – they bought into Richt and the program big time.  To pull the plug less than one year later is not only an expensive proposition, but it also calls into question their judgment in agreeing to those contracts in the first place.  Add to that what it will likely cost to get the kind of coach that will calm the waters for a fractious fan base (not to mention what happens down the road if the next hire doesn’t click, either) and you’re talking some serious jack.  And serious questioning about their decision making comes with that territory.

Now, if the big money boys are grumbling as much as is being reported in the media, then maybe McGarity can reach into some deep pockets from those who are willing to put their money where their mouths are and cushion the financial blow to the reserve fund.  But that doesn’t get away from the difficulty of the fire/hire decision itself; indeed, it’s likely to intensify it because those same folks are going to feel they’re entitled to some real say in it.

That’s not to predict which way he and Morehead jump.  I have no clue, although I tend to lean in the direction of that’s a lot of money you’re asking people to commit, people who don’t like to spend that kind of money on athletics.  But I don’t see how anyone can believe it’s a slam dunk call for them.  Or that they know what they’re doing anymore than Richt appears to right now.

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  1. Okay. I’ll call it. No way, no how and by no means will this staff get fired.

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    • This can be done

      Are there any colleges able to fire football coaches and not cost them a lot of money? this is part of college football now. firing Weiss costed Notre Dame an enormous amount of money and they are still paying him.

      The most viable option could be to scale down the infield practice facility from $31million to $23 million.

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    • Finish 1-3 with losses to Southern and Tech and do you wanna bet?

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      • Greg

        If we go 1-3 to finish the year, that would make us 6-6 after a 4-0 start and would include a home loss to either UK or Ga Southern. Don’t think Richt could survive that, but agree with the points of the article. If the admin has anything at all positive to go on, they are going to rationalize keeping Richt around for at least another year or two. 7-5 could go either way. 8-4 – no question he stays and the Chubb injury and all kinds of other excuses are made. That’s what pretenders do – make excuses…year after year after year after year after…

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      • lakedawg

        Bet you any amount you wish that we do not lose to southern and tech

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    • Bobby Bowden Syndrome

      Surely, we can use Bobby Bonilla’s agent to ink a deal to simply spread that payment into installments for the next uh, ….35 years, right?

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  2. Raleigh St. Claire

    Deciding to hire Schottenheimer in the first place and then paying him almost $1M per season might go down as two of the dumbest decisions the AD and Richt ever made together.

    UGA is seriously being run by a bunch of yahoos right now. If I were a betting man, I’d put money on us not winning a SECC in the 10 years either. Which, for all you youngsters out there, would mean we have in fact regressed to the Goff/Donnan era.

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    • TennesseeDawg

      St. Louis fans rejoiced when we hired him yet plenty of Georgia fans acted like they were crazy. We got an NFL guy with a famous last name!

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    • UGA85

      I think that decision was CMR’s to make. If there is evidence that it was a team decision, I’ve not seen it. CMR is the offensive guru and pro style guru. I stand corrected if there is documentation otherwise.

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  3. UGA85

    I confess that I supported the decision then, especially regarding Pruitt. I still believe, to some extent, that Pruitt is not the problem with this team, and I hope that he will stay/be retained. The problem is that we all make mistakes; I know I certainly do. This has turned out to be a particularly expensive one, based on optimism and hope, but not really based on hard data and facts about CMR and CBS. How we handle our mistakes is important in life. Sometimes we have to take our medicine and move on, even though that is painful and means admitting we were wrong. IMO, that is the best way forward.

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  4. Scorpio Jones, III

    Well, golly.

    Lets see, what am I going to do with the Saturdays in the rest of the season?

    Bass fishing? nah…I sold my boat. Golf? Urp, I’d rather watch a bad offense.

    I don’t have enough grass to mow, besides it has pretty much quit growing.

    Boy, this is a tough thing, now that Georgia football is officially, according to Dean Legge, over, what’s to do?

    Oh, wait, the season is not over…there’s Bama and LSU, right?

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  5. Cousin Eddie

    Seeing those numbers, Richt stays. Schitty will be asked to find another job behind the scenes like Grantham was. Hopefully Richt will take back over QB coach and OC and hire a special teams coach (Someone from VT that Beamer trusted would be great).

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    • adam

      I do wonder if he would take over as OC and play caller. Derek Mason took over his defense to get things right and that has paid off well for Vandy (as far as their defense improving, at least). Mason wasn’t going to let a crappy DC hire cost him his job. Will Richt let Schotty get him fired?

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    • Uhhh…Shane Beamer? 🙂

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    • Normaltown Mike

      Why would you want someone as uninterested in Georgia football taking over MORE responsibilities?

      CMR’s swan song as OC was the pre-Auburn debacle of QB play and game planning of 2006. Things changed when Bobo took over.

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      • Irwin R. Fletcher

        Bobo was a self-taught, genius. He learned nothing from working under CMR.

        I’m a realist about the current state of things…but at the same time, I bristle at the revisionist history in order to support an opinion. The facts are enough…no need to go back and try to down-grade Richt when he clearly had a huge impact on Bobo’s development as a coach.

        BTW…I love that CMR had a ‘swan song’ less than 1 year after winning the SEC while grooming Stafford as a true Freshman.

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        • Normaltown Mike

          I didn’t say Bobo was a self-taught genius Fletch. But go back to 2006 and you see CMR swapping QB’s b/c if X couldn’t run his amazing offense then maybe Y could do it and if that didn’t work then he’d use Z.

          Not once did CMR alter his approach to the strengths/weaknesses of the QB because with CMR the answer is always….more cowbell!

          Recall that when we upset a top 10 Auburn on the road, CMR expressed his surprise that we won.

          http://espn.go.com/college-football/recap?gameId=263150002

          “I was probably about as low as I have been all season,” Richt said. “I thought that it was the worst thing I had ever seen. I was looking at how I could get Matthew some confidence and I thought this [game plan] was awful.”

          Do you think he felt awful b/c he came up with a genius plan? No, he felt awful that Bobo came up with a genius plan.

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          • Irwin R. Fletcher

            “Do you think he felt awful b/c he came up with a genius plan? No, he felt awful that Bobo came up with a genius plan.”

            Right…because that was his MO…to keep Bobo down on the farm while he continued to take the credit and the glory. I’m sorry…I read that quote and standard Mark Richt humility rather than any sort of mea culpa that he had lost the ability to coach.

            You missed a key part of the story, BTW.

            And to think Georgia coach Mark Richt was questioning his offensive plan on the eve of the game.

            So you would suppose that instead of the quote talking about gut-checking the night before the game it actually meant that he thought that Bobo, who he apparently secretly had draw up the game plan, was going to do great the next day and that he was then going to be forced to give him the OC job? Sorry…100% disagree. Richt passed the baton to Bobo at the right time in order to put him in a position to succeed. Calloway was leaving for UAB, Stafford was coming into his own…if you were grooming Bobo to be a HC, that was the right time to give him play calling duties.

            Help me understand, BTW…what ‘strengths’ a Sophomore Joe Cox or a Senior JTIII or even a Freshman Stafford was Richt supposed to alter his approach to take advantage of? If I remember correctly, that was actually THE problem early in the season…we kept bouncing from one QB to another to try to play to their supposed ‘strengths’ instead of settling into the fact that we better ride the talent and take the lumps that come with starting a true Freshman.

            Between 1994 and 2006 while Richt was calling plays, his teams won a national championship, multiple ACC championships, multiple BCS bowl games, and two SEC championships. The idea that he walked away from that kind of a track record because he had lost it instead of the fact that he wanted to be a CEO type while promoting his guys for HC positions is just revisionist at its best.

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            • UGA85

              For me, I don’t question CMR’s past offensive credentials. But much has changed since the 90’s. Does he change and adapt to the present? Rules now, for instance, prevent defenses from teeing off on quarterbacks. So, we have this offensive explosion of points and athletic quarterbacks running the ball. But not at UGA. And I agree about your critique that CMR decided to become a CEO type, leaving his assistants to basically run the operations of the team. This has been devastating to our program, as his offensive staff has proven to be incapable and inept, and CMR’s passivity as a “hands off CEO” has hung them out to dry.

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            • Normaltown Mike

              “Help me understand, BTW…what ‘strengths’ a Sophomore Joe Cox or a Senior JTIII or even a Freshman Stafford was Richt supposed to alter his approach to take advantage of? If I remember correctly, that was actually THE problem early in the season…we kept bouncing from one QB to another to try to play to their supposed ‘strengths’ instead of settling into the fact that we better ride the talent and take the lumps that come with starting a true Freshman.”

              How about the offense that Bobo crafted for Stafford: a single read run/pass offense. It sorta worked on the road against # 5 Auburn and at home vs #15 Tech.

              “Between 1994 and 2006 while Richt was calling plays, his teams won a national championship, multiple ACC championships, multiple BCS bowl games”

              You’re absolutely right, if Georgia was in the ACC, we’d be winning championships year after year with an occasional two loss season.

              “Richt passed the baton to Bobo at the right time in order to put him in a position to succeed. Calloway was leaving for UAB, Stafford was coming into his own…if you were grooming Bobo to be a HC, that was the right time to give him play calling duties”

              Too bad CMR formally turned over play calling to Bobo by the Tech game which was before Callaway left

              I’m sure if we bring back the stretch play, Lambert/Bauta/Ramsey will be back to Heisman form.

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              • Irwin R. Fletcher

                If you want to believe Bobo was the genius behind the curtain that Richt reluctantly passes the reigns to when he realized he was better….I’m certainly not going to convince you otherwise. I think you’re 100% wrong, just for the record.

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                • Normaltown Mike

                  Actually, you’re right and I’m not being snarky.

                  CMR is far too stubborn and self confident as to his football skiils to think he should turn over authority to some upstart. He is more often quite motivated to achieve intangibles like self-esteem and a purpose driven life.

                  When CMR gave Bobo play-calling duties, doubtless he said “I love you no matter what happens” like he would a struggling kicker.

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                • Richt trained Bobo and taught him how to call a game. Richt eased Bobo into position. So I feel he could go back to calling plays if he wished and do good, at least better than what Schitty has done this year.

                  Your know kicker comment would matter if he missed but he didn’t. Richt knew what to say to ease his nerves so he could make the kick. If he said, “you miss it I will break your leg,” and he missed would you feel better.

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  6. TennesseDawg

    And this is why I believe Richt is not going anywhere unless he retires (and he won’t). McGarity’s bumbling along with Richt’s failures has turned this into a mess that Tennessee would be proud of.

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  7. Athens Dog

    He ain’t going anywhere till he decides

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  8. GaskillDawg

    The problem with asking big donors to pony up millions and millions to buy out coaches is that at the same time we are asking the same donors to pony up millions and millions for an indoor practice facility.

    There is a limit to the number of donors with the means and desire to write checks that large, and a limit to how much even they can give. It would not be an investment for those guys. Do they want to divert that kind of money from uses that could increase their wealth or do they want simply to take a chance at getting to attend a playoff?
    That is a whole lot of money.

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    • mikebozo

      Also the millions and millions for a new HC and new staff

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      • GaskillDawg

        Exactly. The $7 million in buyouts does not include the cost of the new salaries. Unless we shop at Krazy Bob’s Discount Coaches the dream team hires everyone wants will add several million more. Then we will have eight figures just in coaches’ salaries to pay while we are trying to raise funds for the IPF.

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        • Scorpio Jones, III

          Damn Gaskill, that sounds like Tennessee….and Auburn…

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        • The cost of the new coaches’ salaries is essentially a sunk cost. We’re gonna be paying that regardless of the coaching staff that is in place. The only consideration that should matter in that regard is for the buyout money.

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          • GaskillDawg

            Yeah, we won’t be getting coaches working as volunteers. If we hired a bunch of young, up and comers who hire up and comer coordinators with no previous coordinating experience, we actually will be paying less for salaries of on-field coaches next year than this. However, the coaches fans expect to line up for the job are A list guys. Chip Kelly. Jimbo Fisher. McGarity got a home town discount with Richt, even at 4 mill. Fisher, or Kelly, or that A list guy will be making more than Richt. The coordinators will not be making less. I expect the difference to mean that our payroll will be somewhat higher, excluding buy-outs, than this season’s payroll.

            ON the other hand, if we hire a hot “Other Five” guy, the bidding war may come in lower than Richt’s current salary, but we would have a guy without a track record at the highest level.

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          • In reality though – per the Richt contract that’s avaliable – he’s due $67K each month over three years (caveat : not sure if his new extension changes the buyout terms). If that’s the case in his most recent contract, then the only upfront buyout amounts are for Pruitt and Schottenheimer which are large, but not as huge as adding another $4M on top of it.

            After thinking about this some more today, and assuming that Richt’s buyout terms are similar under his new contract, I don’t think the money is as big as an issue as I thought it would be earlier. B-M can find $67K a month by shaking the couch cushions. To me – it’s the appetite to pay out both Pruitt and Schottenheimer if this is the way the powers to be are swaying.

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            • lakedawg

              Just how much of that amount are you committing to audit? Probably not a dime and I would guess you are not contributing a dime now anyway so how can you comment on such matters.

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              • First – you can piss off with this kind of nonsense. Why the hell you jump to a conclusion about somebody you’ve never met and know next to nothing about besides a screen name is beyond me. I’ve been a season ticket holder (pre-young alumni days) since I graduated. My contribution might not be Leeburn sized (I doubt anybody commenting on this here topic is), but I’m making ’em each and every year for my four seats. So again – you can piss off with that nonsense.

                Secondly – what does it matter if I contribute or not? If not for spitballing ideas up against a wall, what the hell did Al Gore invent this here intertubes for?

                Thirdly – Have a great day!

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                • Athens Townie

                  Lakedawg isn’t really interested in having civil, reasoned exchanges.

                  But he excels at incoherent snipes and lousy grammar!

                  🙂

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          • Just realized I basically repeated what you said.

            TL;DR – I agree with you.

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    • Well, know that Mr. Leeburn has gotten his way with all those pesky craft breweries who want to – GASP! – sell their own beer, he should have some cash on hand.

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      • GaskillDawg

        Most accurate comment of the day. The nerve of a small company to want to be able to serve its product.

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        • There’s probably something that could be said here about the hypocrisy of the party of free market which controls the state legislature AND holds the governor’s seat picking winners (big time campaign contributors) and losers (small GA business owners) in said free market via crony capitalism and bitching out of the other side of their mouths about poor people taking advantage of government entitlement programs, but I’m thinking everybody’s already pissed off enough without stirring up that nest of hornets. 🙂

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  9. The bouncing ball is bouncing from Schotty to Richt to McGarity and finally it will drop on the lap of Morehead.

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  10. SAtownDawg

    Iowa State fired their O.C. before the Texas game and then went out and won 24-0…a similar move here here by Richt could pay dividends….seems like the OC has lost the players with his stone age offense

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  11. The other Doug

    I just realized how Richt has made the AD’s job easy for years. The UGA, or any SEC, AD job is a sweet gig until you have to fire and hire a football coach. Screw that up and you set in motion costs that snowball plus angry fans. So, if you have to fire the football coach there is a high likelihood that you will find yourself on the hotseat in 3 to 4 years.

    Richt has lost control of McGarity’s cush job!

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    • Normaltown Mike

      McGarity has fired two home grown and beloved coaches (baseball and gymnastics) and was under Foley when he canned Zook (who had better teams at UF than we have now).

      IMHO, if we lose to Tech, CMR will be on a one year make or break

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  12. frowertr

    Richt and Co. needs to the end of next season to attempt to turn this thing around. I think the litmus test should be Atlanta or bust next year though. Doesn’t need to win there but should get there.

    You can’t fire Shotty this year without letting go of Richt. Going through one OC every year is the same mistake Muschamp made. Secondly, Pruitt’s defensive unit should be much better considering the plethora of true freshmen that have played this year and now have experience under their belt. Add all of that to a great recruiting class incoming and a top tier QB on the way and I just don’t see why we are even talking about firing Richt this season.

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    • adam

      “You can’t fire Shotty this year without letting go of Richt. Going through one OC every year is the same mistake Muschamp made. ”

      I would agree with you if we had been doing this for a few years now, but Bobo had like 7 season as the OC/playcaller and Schotty has had 1. I think sometimes you just have to say “this is a bad fit and it’s not working out” and make a move. Honestly, the sooner Schotty is gone, the sooner we can get to work on fixing the offense.

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      • Exactly. I think “This is a bad fit” is putting it kindly. “This is absolutely the worst I can remember a Georgia offense being” is more to the point.

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        • Will (The Other One)

          Yep. When the results are “worst stretch since 1969” and “worst since Goff’s last season” why keep trying it? And how sure are you that the highly-rated 5-star QB shows up in January when the OC that was so bad could be back and get the HC you like canned in 2016?

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    • I think the litmus test should be Atlanta or bust next year though. Doesn’t need to win there but should get there.

      Next year won’t be any easier to get to Atlanta than this year. They will be breaking in a true freshman QB (presumably) and a new o-line… without Mitchell to catch passes. They have 3 of their first 4 SEC games on the road after opening the season with the current ACC Coastal leaders North Carolina. Tennessee and Florida are pulling away, and you never know when Malzahn finds a rabbit foot or Missouri finds a QB.

      If the best case scenario for this season is a 10-3 (5-3, 3rd in East) record, I don’t see how 2016 will be a better season if the staff stays the same.

      I think Richt can fire Schotty and save himself. Richt has had exactly 1 OC before Schotty. That one he groomed as QB coach before letting him have it. It’s hardly the same as a first-time head coach having two OCs in his first two years on the job. It is what I hope happens. It was a mistake, a bad hire. Admit to it, and move on. Bring in somebody who sees the role of offense as scoring points, and let’s see what he can do with Eason. Schotty will ruin Eason. Schotty has ruined every QB he has ever coached. Richt will not be here for 2017 if Schotty is here for 2016.

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      • Will (The Other One)

        Agree with your last paragraph, not as much the first. UNC loses their QB (and possibly the Slacket takes a HC job, which hurts their D) — plus their one loss this year was to South Carolina.

        Given how the OLine has played this year, I don’t see how losing some of the guys that were blocked all over the field can hurt that much. They may know their assignments better, but if they can’t execute? At least with young talented guys there’s a chance at in-season improvement (see the secondary this year.)

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    • I disagree. Morehead or McGarrity should step in now and tell Richt to fire Schottenheimer immediately. Find someone else and promise Richt he is safe for 2 more years. Take the $2M medicine for a horrendous OC hire and try again. If Richt hires another failure–well its on him. In 2 years Richt’s buy out will be a ton less anyway, by then they will have either ruined Eason or coached him up, and the powers that be will have all the evidence they need one way or the other.

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    • Greg

      We will be picked 3rd in the East behind UT and UF next year. We were favored to win the East the past 3 years and have nothing to show for it. It’s all over except the Belk, Gator, Independence and Liberty bowls for Richt.

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    • lakedawg

      Amen, froewertr

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  13. @gatriguy

    Agree that BM is going to have to cough up some jack if they want to cut ties, but here’s the thing: they got by on the cheap with Richt, and especially Bobo for the better part of half a decade. Hell, Richt was cutting assistants personal checks at one point.

    They would probably still be money ahead over the past decade relative to other SEC schools.

    Btw, remember back when Richt and the university had no buy-out in his contract, then he negotiated that in after McG came on board? Yeah, no one will convince me that McG was whole unimpressed with Mark from the jump.

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    • Yeah, no one will convince me that McG was whole unimpressed with Mark from the jump.

      Frankly – nothing McG’s done in his tenure has convinced me anybody should be impressed with his body of work. The baseball and gymnastics hires combined with his PR fiasco last year during the Gurley situation haven’t exactly shown me the man is brimming with competence as an AD.

      I’m completely indifferent to where Mark Richt is coaching next year, but if he’s gone I’d be happier if McGarity is canned with him.

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      • Normaltown Mike

        Stricklin & Durante are both improvements.

        Perno couldn’t recruit in-state baseball and Jay under-performed every year. Both were well liked by boosters and had been at UGA for decades. Not easy to fire your nephew.

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        • Both were well liked by boosters and had been at UGA for decades.

          Isn’t that the problem with the Georgia Way though and the Senator’s entire point about the money issue at play here? Hell – look what we just did with women’s basketball. Rather than running out there to grab the best available coach, we look to the end of the bench and hire somebody that’s been around for a long time that we can get on the cheap. Of course going cheap could work out just fine as Richt certainly has for the majority of his tenure, but that kind of hiring doesn’t strike me as a man (or Athletic Department) that’s willing to pony up cash when they’re perfectly content going cheap to keep the profits rolling. Richt has also been a rarity in that he was willing to be cheap and still won enough to keep the proverbial dogs at bay for awhile. Winning is secondary to this athletic department and has been for years. I’m not saying that perspective is right or wrong (not my place to tell somebody else how they should run their business), but it’s one that we all know will be pretty paramount to McG and Co. when it comes to put up or show up time with respect to these buyouts.

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          • Normaltown Mike

            agree on that one, was hoping we’d bring in a fresh face.

            I can only figure that nobody, literally nobody, cared about lady dogs b-ball by the end of Landers’ run.

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  14. Biggus Rickus

    They have quite a lot of money in the reserve fund, so it’s not like they couldn’t absorb the expense of making the change now. I suspect the big money people are split pretty much like the rest of the fan base on Richt’s performance, and I think these last four games will have a large bearing on his future as the head coach.

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  15. truck

    I think McGarity tells Coach Richt, behind closed doors at the end of the season, “Mark, I’ve given you everything you’ve asked for. You’ve got two years to win the East and get us back to the Dome.” Which is exactly why I tell every Dawg fan I see that Richt will be here AT LEAST through the 2017 season. After that it’s anbody’s guess. But I doubt anything happens until then.

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  16. Brandon

    How dare you let facts and potential financial issues that could set this athletic department back another decade or so get in the way of my whiny senseless emotions!?!?! FIRE RICHT!

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    • dawgman3000

      I take it that you are very happy with the program being mediocre as long as your hero is the head coach

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      • Of course he is. He’s one of the “Wait til that ’17 natty and feel stupid crowd!”. It’s sad that we just got our asses handed to us by a team that finally sucked it up and cut ties with a mediocre coach and will probably win the east this year with a new coach and not great talent.

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  17. Jeff

    Well, after three days of calling for Richt’s head, cooler heads will of course prevail and he will stay. We all really knew that all along, didn’t we? The problem with our team is lack of quality players with experience, at most positions, on both sides of the ball. On defense, the quality is much better but inexperienced. On offense, it’s both, thanks to a small 2012 class and a complete bust in 2013.

    Of course, there are many who just want CMR fired and will say “Well whose fault is it that we don’t have any talent?! Who’s been in charge?!” Fair point, but name a team other than Bama that hasn’t had a recruiting bust every few years. Surely people don’t think we are going to fire Richt, then walk out there and find a coach who right now isn’t as good as Saban (who is the best) but will be as good as Saban if we can get him in Athens. That’s just ridiculous. Also, remember who was in charge of recruiting back in 2012 and 13? Where is he now? What’s happening to their recruiting? Yeah.

    The real question, in my opinion, is not whether these guys can coach. It’s what is the best way to replenish the talent? Fire and hire or stay the course. Considering the dollars involved and the current recruiting class’ potential, the AD will most likely keep CMR and let at least one more season play out, probably two.

    Lastly, we don’t have a QB right now. Eason is set to enroll early in Jan. What happens if we fire CMR and lose Eason? Who will be our QB next year? If Eason goes, what if the rest of the class then falls apart, which is probable to some degree. It’s easy to say things like “Saving a recruiting class is never a good reason to keep a coach.” Well, firing him is a lot more complicated than that. Who do you get? How much do you pay? How long then until we get a quality QB , WR, and OL on the field? Do you really think next year will be better with a whole new staff and a subpar 2016 recruiting class? Saban, McElwain, Jones, Miles, and Freeze will all still be there. We will just be 2+ years behind them, and they will have snapped up all the great Georgia kids we will lose out of this class with a firing.

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    • @gatriguy

      If you’re a coach from the FSU/Miami school of winning by just having more talent, then it would probably behoove you to you know, have a lot of talent.

      Every one of Richt’s flaws as a program CEO (picking bad assistants, roster management, sense of urgency, attention to detail in special teams, etc.) came to a head in one year, and this time, there is no Murray, or Gurley, or Chubb to pull his ass out of the fire.

      I don’t know if Richt is staying or going, my guess is that 2-2 over these next four saves him and anything worse costs him.

      But at this point, there is absolutely no reason to believe a recruiting class can save him. There are no WRs or SEC caliber OLs waiting in the wings. The offense has no faith in Schotty. I believe Pruitt is gone this year no matter what, he’s seen enough of the program’s softness.

      We are at least until 2017 before we can seriously expect to compete for a conference title, so to me, I’d rather see if a change in blood can get us there.

      Also, Eason might be the savior. Or he might wobble and go to U-Dub, or USC, or God forbid Florida.

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      • Jeff

        Oh I saw the “article” this morning about how “UF is coming after Eason”. I’ll tell you, it’s just creepy that some guy with a blog is tracking a teenager’s Twitter account to see who he is following. Eason is not going to UF. It was just click bait.

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    • The said thing is that you made cogent points about not getting rid of Richt and then mentioned McElwain, a first year coach that just waxed MR with mediocre talent.

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  18. Debby Balcer

    I am so tired of these discussions. We look like spoiled brats in this fan base. Money aside who would want to walk into a job with a fan base like ours.

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    • Biggus Rickus

      Every major program’s fan base is like ours.

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      • Scorpio Jones, III

        Rick, if I might, nicely of course, disagree slightly. Every major program has a segment of the fan base that is just like this segment of the fan base, or worse, if that is even possible.

        Most fans of major programs have jobs, don’t have time to spend posting on the Web.

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      • AlphaDawg

        So much this. I’ve lived in GA, CA, VA, and NC over the last 24 years and I can confirm every major college team in those states have the same fans. Hell, there’s been a ton of fans calling for Beamers head since the early 2000’s, because he couldn’t get VT in the Championship game with a very weak ACC. I personally see a lot of Beamer in Richt, at least in terms of ‘keep doing what we’ve always done’.

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      • adam

        Bama and Auburn are much worse.

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    • JTP

      Please, every fan base of power player football schools is like this. This is just the only one that you’re intimately involved in.

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    • Jeff

      The loudmouth vocal minority gets the most attention in all things. We’re probably not any worse than other major schools’ fanbases, but the media loves to print the whining because it generates clicks. That makes the whining seem greater than it really is. I think most coaches realize that.

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      • That’s annoyed me most about he Wolken posts lately. He acts like the snooty “nose in the air looking down from its moral high perch” is the majority of Georgia fans. Painting that picture is as lazy as pretending the “realists” are also the majority of the fanbase. Clearly, he hasn’t been reading the comments section of this blog enough. 🙂

        Most of just fall in the middle of those two extremes, but that picture of our fanbase doesn’t generate the page clicks.

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    • Macallanlover

      Agree, this has been building for years and those who didn’t know, or weren’t sure, UGA has too many bad, vocal fans have all been given a close up of it the past few weeks. Intermingled among all the “UGA will never win anything with Richt, Schotty, (name your favorite target here) are the really concerning comments meant to really injure UGA’s future about why no recruit should commit to UGA because they are throwing away their chances to succeed. There were several of those comments made here over the weekend.

      Even in the heat of the moment, there is no justification for that from a UGA fan made in a public manner. These are impressionable young athletes, even if they don’t read many of the sites personally, you can bet their family members and/or friends do if you are a school they are giving serious consideration to.

      Folks can feel however they want about changes but it is how they choose to handle it that makes us look bad, really bad. The “laughingstock, disgrace” comments are more reflective of many of our fans than any of our coaches, and, sadly, I agree with that assessment. Changes can be made without throwing the baby out.

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      • Dog in Fla

        Whose baby is it

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      • I openly question what recruit would actively choose to sign up to play in Schottenheimer’s offense. Look at all the other options out there. Big plays are fun! Touchdowns are fun! Grinding away with a 12 play offense, that DCs figured out in the late 80’s is not fun. Why put in the type of work it takes to achieve greatness, when you know going in you are going to be handcuffed by an outdated system!?

        It is not on the fans to bite their tongue about the shitty offense. Players are smart. They are savvy. They all play Madden (and NCAA before we got cheated). They know that Oregon’s offense is going to put you on the highlight real or get you a helmet sticker on CFB Final. Or that Urban Meyer will have a set of plays specifically for you in his offense. Here’s is the kicker. You know who is more savvy than the kids? Opposing Coaches. Opposing coaches have a direct line to a recruit’s ear. If you think a recruit has to wait and indirectly stumble upon Georgia fans recruiting against their own team on a blog–you are nuts.

        What do you think Florida’s pitch to Eason was Sunday? I bet it was something like “Did you see the game yesterday? You can still be great. Its not too late to sign with a winner.”

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        • Dog in Fla

          The Academy gave Corch Irwin Meyer an Oscar for that award-winning technique

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        • Or how about the coaches texting kids links to stories by national writers with no axe to grind calling us a dumpster fire. I can guarantee that happened. But the precious team moms on here think anonymous fans on a blog should be muzzled.

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          • Exactly. There are many more people far closer to the recruits with much more to gain than I do that are probably laughing at UGA Football right now. Rightfully so.

            12 points in 2 games…with an open week in between. How does that possibly happen?

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      • You really think that the four or five national stories written by impartial writers might not have a bit more sway than anonymous blog posters on the precious recruits. My god man. We get that those team moms like you love Richt but get some perspective.

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  19. Dog in Fla

    “With that said, according to the contract that is public, Richt would be due $66,000 per month through the end of 2019.”

    The good news forecast: Only four more Oktoberfests to slog through.

    The bad news forecast: By then, he’ll be 5 -14 against Florida but his contract will have been extended again beyond 2019 a/k/a The Fourth Year of the Fourth Five Year Plan because how else can he be expected to recruit

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  20. DawgPhan

    The money to pay coaches is a drop in the bucket. UGA needs to spend $100million over the next 2-3 years just to catch up to the top SEC athletic programs.

    Bama, LSU, and Auburn are all spending more than $30million/year more on sports than UGA is. There is simply no way that UGA can compete spending that much less than the top teams.

    We may not want to keep up with the jones, hell some of us think we are the jones, but the jones are building a guest guest house that is nicer than our house. And every week they come and clean out our fridge.

    Not saying spend like a drunken sailor, but there is serious investment that needs to be made if UGA really wants to compete in any sport, much less football.

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  21. Will Trane

    I have not checked the Dawgs offensive stats from the UF, but I understood we had 22 rushing plays. Not sure about that. $1.9 million is pretty expensive for that kind of coaching. Very expensive when all you have over two games are four FGs.
    Who in hell wants to watch that. My UF friends could not believe how quickly McElwain started putting points on the board with Muschamps recruits.
    I do not subscribe to that outdated thought that defense wins championships. Based on the scoreboard it is who puts the points up. And lately our offensive coordinator does a real good job of helping the opposing teams.

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  22. charlottedawg

    Serious question, how much does it cost to can mcgarity? If we were forced to seal club a good man in Richt who actually elevated the program the least we can do is fire his incompetent boss who has literally made zerogood hires and has contributed zero value.

    I’d make Richt AD if his hiring and management track record wasn’t well, spotty, And that’s being generous

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    • Normaltown Mike

      this is nonsense on stilts.

      The reason we had no IPF, multi-year contracts for assistants or legions of non-coaching personnel for recruiting is that CMR has no sense of urgency. Pruitt demanded these things and McG and Morehead responded.

      CMR, like the high school boy sitting home on Saturday night, is afraid to ask or doesn’t care to ask.

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      • AusDawg85

        Man it’s fun to just make stuff up on the interwebs! See Adams, Michael for why spending on the program was below average in the SEC.

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  23. Will Trane

    Personally if CMR is not gone at end of year I will be surprised.
    The consensus around my friends is based on what I think too.
    A lot of names are floating out there now.
    Even Jimbo Fisher and Smart.
    Georgia is an ideal place to coach. Few states have the high school football Georgia does. Plus the facilities and pay are there for a coach. And now doubt Sanford is going to be expanded in the next 15 years.
    People act as if there are no coaches out there.
    CMR has failed to manage his roster and program. Can not keep going the way it is. 5-10 against UF is enough!. He can not get by the LSU, Bamas, UT, and UFs at the current rate. You have to accept that. No young high school QB coming in is going to change things over night. Not in this offense.

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  24. Bill Glenn

    UGA hasn’t had to pay a fired football coach since Donnan. Grantham got another gig. It’s a cost of doing business. If any coach has a good year, he’s gonna want an extension or a rollover. Coaches complain all the time that it hurts recruiting if they don’t have a multi-year deal.

    You are going to have this problem next year too. These coaches will take less money on a severance if you let them go out or they can transition into a new job. No one wants to be fired. This is manageable.

    Keeping Richt around when he is clearly done is a mistake. We are going to get pummeled next year anyway. He will just lose his job then. Keeping him around is delaying the inevitable.

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  25. Senator,
    Well thought and researched…….+100

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  26. Bulldog Jor

    So there is a strong possibilty Coach Richt missed the important detail of signing his contract extension?

    Why am I not surprised?

    If true, he may have very little leverage and a settlement can be negotiated behind the scenes. Senator?

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  27. Will Trane

    Dean is totally on point.
    This is what my circle of alum friends think and say, too.
    The atmosphere in Athens has to change, even all the way to the AD.
    Not one program at UGA has advanced under this AD. Not one in men’s or women’s sports…check the records.
    As an alum and supporter I am tired of this. It is unfair to the kids of this state who want to attend an outstanding University in the SEC and to compete for the University in the SEC.
    They sure damn deserve more than this. Unfortunately a few selfish out of date people can not get by it.

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  28. W Cobb Dawg

    It’s actually not as bad a financial situation as I thought. I figured we were on the hook to give CMR another $12 mil or so, not less than $4 mil. And dumping Schotty for less than $2 mil is a ‘no brainer’.

    The hard part is Pruitt. Once he gets through a full 3 or 4 year recruiting cycle, I think he’ll be just fine – and he’s a great recruiter. He works harder than any coach (head or assistant) we’ve had in a long, long time. And he doesn’t shy away from getting into the dirty details of running a program. I think losing Pruitt would damage the program more than any other factor.

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  29. Morris Buttermaker

    Senator –

    With all the talk about a coaching change at UGA, why is nobody looking at McGarity’s track record with hiring coaches? EVERY hire he has made at Georgia has been at best sub-par as the sun stands. Sure, the non-revenue sports don’t get much attention on your site but we did have a top notch women’s gymnastics program, a decent women’s soccer team and our baseball team was more than competitive prior to McGarity’s run at Georgia. What makes anyone think that if McGarity can’t make a strong hire for the women’s volleyball job he is capable of a moon shot with the football team?

    The coaches that McGarity inherited are the best in the UGA athletic department and we as fans are damn lucky they haven’t left for greener pastures.

    McGarity’s handling of the Jack Bauerle situation was unacceptable, exposes his poor management style and for sure doesn’t send the right message to a perspective coach. “We’ve got your back at Georgia – until we don’t.” It is my opinion that if you asked all of the coaches in the UGA athletic department to cast a private ballot on McGarity he would poll worse than Lincoln Chaffe or George Pataki. ANY collegiate AD without the support of his coaches is a bad AD and that’s not the person I want making a call on the football coach of a team I follow.

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  30. Irwin R. Fletcher

    At the end of the day…if the name is big enough, I think BM could find the money to let Richt and Schotty go. I think that’s the play here…find a big name who is an offensive guy (Jimbo, David Shaw, Dan Mullen…maybe even Tom Herman or Fuente) that will come in, and potentially keep Pruitt/Rocker/etc. on that side of the ball. Otherwise, I think you’ll see them wait-and-see on Richt…with the possibility that they could still fire Schotty at the end of the season.

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    • UGA85

      I think the first scenario you mentioned would be ideal. And it would probably pay immediate dividends.

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    • Will (The Other One)

      Good god, not Jimbo.

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      • Irwin R. Fletcher

        Yeah…I can totally see how hiring a coach that has a national championship and whose team has lost a total of two games since November 25, 2012 (that’s two games in almost three years) would be awful.

        Interesting that he’s 5 years younger than Richt and younger than Harbaugh…I would’ve never guessed that.

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  31. j4k372

    Florida sure didn’t have an issue paying out millions to get rid of Muschamp. What a poor decision that turned out to be, eh? I would bet the profits from FU merchandise helps ease the pain for the Athletic Department. I live down here in Gainesville. There is a renewed spirit which involves lots of orange and blue stuff on bodies, cars, and houses. The concessions from sold out games help too.

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  32. Chickamona

    Somewhere in there, Dean Legge makes some decent points I generally agree with, but the man is not winning any Pulitzers. Lord, that is some over-the-top, dramatic rambling mixed with conjecture and rumor. And you can see he is still miffed that his pre-season lock for starter (Ramsey) is the only one of the three who hasn’t actually started a game all year. Can’t argue too much with the bottom line conclusions, though.

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    • Dog in Fla

      hmmm…any conspiracy theorist worth his salt would wonder if Dean got a Legge up by accessing the white board and red marker

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  33. AB

    McGarity is just waiting for Foley to retire. He’s the Florida AD in waiting.

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  34. Mike Cooley

    So we are stuck with Richt and Schottenheimer unless something very unlikely happens? Put another way, this is who we are. Start learning to accept it. Fuck that.

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